do they all act like this??

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I'm a pisces dating a cancer man for about 2 months and he has told me loves me and wants me to move into his house with him, I feel it's way too soon and I need to really think about it, I told him maybe 9 months from now I'll be ready he keeps saying 6 months he'd love me to consider. I'm a little freaked out about how fast this is all moving I love being with him and he's awesome, but I can't help but be scared to make the wrong choices, are cancers always so ready for the relationship?? He's so persistent with the moving in and he says he feels I am his soulmate and he's never felt like this in his life. He said I have his head spinning and swears I put a spell on him LOL no I told him it's the pisces charm. I keep telling him I'll know when it's right to make that next step I'll feel it and if it's right I'll do it. Are cancers known to be control freaks?? I hope not! Give up the good advice I don't want to lose this man he is a positive thing in my life I just need time.
thanks for any help, ideas, or info you can all give.
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Well this cancer is not taking his time, he swears he has never been like this with another woman, he said even when he was married he said he never felt like this about his wife. He said he can't even think at work because he's always thinking about me. Does this poor man realize I'm a pisces— I keep asking him if he's crazy he says just about you. I like him a lot but I need my space and I don't want him to crowd me and make me feel like he's putting on too pressure on me. He says he'll slow down put doesn't he just changes how he words it, He wants to be around me all the time and gets so sad when I'm away from him and he says he never acted like this before. I don't know it's just the way it is and my nature is so different from the people he has dated in the past he has never been with a pisces before and he's the first cancer I have dated, I want a cancer man to tell me if he thinks this cancer is being true and I can trust him? my sister is a cancer and i know how she can be in relationships. We have a connection so different from what I have ever felt before he feels it too, He said when he looks at me he sees his soulmate and he has never used that word in his life or ever thought about fate before is this man for real?? I want to believe him but as you know us Pisces want to look deep into everything and we need to make sure everything is right before we express any feelings.
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waterbaby18

I know how he feels...I'm not really the clingy type but when you are a Cancer and you thing you have found the ONE person who understands you and is on the same wavelength...you tend to get a little tenacious about them.

You fishy people are so hard to catch so he's trying to get an all around net screw the pole! If you are scared back off from him a bit but don't swim away and break his heart without telling him a reason. Do that for me, okay?

Also be careful of what you say around him because we take words at face value and Pisces tend to tell people what they WANT to hear as opposed to how they really feel.

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Cancerlady,
I do not want to break this mans heart, and I know how us fish do tend to tell people what they want to hear and I'm trying hard not to do that. This man is wonderful and I don't want to lose him I just need him to chill out with the moving in business I'm not ready for that yet, I've been out of my relationship of 10 years with a virgo, I know I should probably not even be dating but the connection with this cancer is so strong I couldn't let him go and he doesn't want me to leave him go, he's throwing out the net. He is probably the 1st man I have been with that makes me feel this way. I feel like we can read each others thoughts he feels the same way. He is 7 years older than me I don't know if that kind of holds me back too I know it shouldn't matter. I know he wouldn't cheat or lie to me he would be devoted and I like that, I have had some trouble in the past with being 100% faithful and I know he wouldn't like that and it would be over if I was dating anyone else he wants it to be just him. I'll remember waht you said about face value of my words thanks cancerlady as norm you're a great help.
Waterbaby
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Yeah I agree with cancerlady's input. The cancer usually take their own time in decding about even begining a connection. But if their instinct says YES, then they progress too quick. tehy seem to have a difficult time in holding back. But yes they must give themselves a break and go about it one step at a time. After all jsut being attracted to each other and havign a great rapport are nto the only ingredients to cook a relationship.
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Well Water Baby I am a cancer man dating a pisces lady for past 6 months and I quiet well know how it is to be with her......Time and spaces melt....nothing seems so enticing and special....No believe me you pisces girls melt our hearts with your charm....it is natural...so if he is desperate,well he hardly can help it...can you change your charms— no then why should he change his obsession.
Believe me If someone gives me a treasure in exchange for those rare moments I spend with her,in all my senses,I will refuse,that is the magic....So baby try to understand him....those rare moments might be just good or nice to you but for him they are unexplainable...believe me....so give him some solid assurance...and be honest about your feelings and he will agree!
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Deep water Current,
Thanks I know this cancer man is special and he says he really loves me and there's no way for him to explain to me how different this is for him he says he's never felt this way about anyone, he didn't plan to fall in love, or to ask anyone to move in, he wants to be with all the time. I love that he's like this we can't seem to get enough of each other, but I do make him take a break and there are some days that we don't see each other but I feel bad because he's so sad when we don't. I do need my space and I need time. I will not hurt this man I care way too much and I know I must be falling in love with him, I just can't tell him that yet and I know he's waiting to hear it but I want to be sure. I told him I'm only going to date him and it's the truth and I know that makes him very happy!! I have a hard time with always being open and telling him I feel and I know that drives him crazy, he wants me to be open and feel I can talk to him about anything, I just got out of a 10 year relationship with someone who became very abusive and I had to have him removed from my house by the police and I had to get a PFA on him (protection from abuse order) which the judge just gave me an 18 month order he may not come near me. So trust isn't high on my list and at times I feel scared to say the wrong things but I need to realize this man will not hit me or hurt me and I need to trust him. Easier said then done sometimes. But I am happy and I never knew Cancer was my perfect partner until now, it's not virgo my x was a virgo and he drove me mad plus his abuse didn't help either. But I think Cancer and pisces are perfect so connected on all levels, instant attraction, sex life mind blowing!!! I just never knew it could be this way, and yes I still need time and I'm not moving in with him yet....maybe in 9 months or more he'd like me to in 3 months but I feel it's way tooooooo soon for me for us. I have 2 kids ages 5 & 9 and the changes we have gone through lately have been a lot so I don't want to put too much on them yet either this is the 1st time in 10 years I have lived alone well without a man and I love it right now.
Thanks for your advice it really helps a lot
Waterbaby 🙂
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Dear Water.......Only thing we Cancers Love is the Honesty from our Partner and lots of it to be precise...We(Cancers) have a bad side to our character to loose trust now and then but if our partner gives us some emotional security we are happy....
I know it is difficult for you to be completely open in all respects..what with all that you have gone through...but just if possible,just let him know what is holding you from being with him...just that insecurity part in cancers..I hope you understand!!
I know you can't commit untill you are completely sure...but sure of what
i) Moving in with him??
ii) you told he will never hurt you??and believe me he never will intentionally!!
iii) Some past thoughts and memories,may be!!

Baby Be sure yourself first and then only you can assure him of something...
Till then give him those little bits of emotional security...You are always there for him etc etc...

Good luck!!
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Deep Water~
being sure of what is a good question....I guess I just need to know I'm doing the right thing and being in control of my life, I have always jumped in the past and look where that has taken me, I'm trying to be honest and open. I show him how I feel and he seems to not be pushing me so much. I'm hoping this can be a lasting relationship and a positive point in my life. You seem to know the pisces female well and you're dealing with some issues yourself, so you know we can be tough people to figure out and you might have to really get work on us to get us to open up and express ourselves.
Up until now I have only good things to say about this relationship between pisces & cancer. I hope it stays in this direction because I am so happy!!!!
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Aww Waterbaby -

I wish you the best of luck. Your relationship with your Cancer Man does sound like he's your soulmate. Just remember us Pisces females can get scared to the point that we can be self-destructive. Dont be the cause of your own self undoing. Its good that you're giving him a little bit of a challenge (subconsciously) by not moving in when he wants you to move in. Does he have any kids? I'm asking this because most Cancers, once their in a serious relationship, want to make babies. So be prepared to go half on a baby!

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goldenlady~
yes he has 2 kids and can't have anymore he's fixed which is perfect!! I know I can be so self destructive I've almost done it with this man, I wasn't going to talk to him anylonger I was just going to cut the ropes because he was scaring the hell out of me and making me really nervous when he talks about moving in and he's so ready for it all, that I get overwhelmed and start to think about just ending it so I don't need to deal with anything. I can't tell you why I do that or would want to I just think about it and I know it's not what I really want I do want this man in my life. He's the best thing to ever happen to me and I almost cried when I thought about never seing him again, us pisces women just love making life hard on ourselves st times, but I do tell him I will know when I'm ready to live with him and he asks how will I know I just tell him I will I always do and know when I'm ready, if I do it now It won't work and I'd be unhappy and feel he forced me into it then I'll resent him.
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Water~

Ok. Him being fixed is cool. I can so relate. I have been in relationships where I got so scared when things started getting serious that I would plan my escape route. I don't really know why? Maybe it was that I didn't want to be stuck in a relationship that would eventually turn out to be monotonous and bore the hell out of me. But I don't think your relationship with Mr.Cancer would ever get that way. You guys are both creative and imaginary to come up with a variety of fun and different stuff to do. Even if you guys relaxed & chilled all the time that probably wouldn't even get boring. You seem to have a really good Cancer on your hands. Is he really close to his Mom? Do you find that he's very complex at times? I haven't had really good experiences with Cancer men.
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Dear golden....You might be knowing this fact..and I just get sad at this that we cancers are like mirrors..So the complexity you see in us is a result of your own complexity..
It is like this:-
If you are confused about a situation..we get confused(Confusion creates more confusion).
If you are happy our joy doubles
If you are sad we get sad.
So you see the negative side.

These things get reflected in a pisces Cancer relationship more strongly.

Otherwise the Pisces and cancer relationship is quiet excellent,What with the care and the creativity which they share except for those moments of confusion which arise now and then..

God only if he destied Cancers and Pisces to be together(Here I mean if both were sure inside that they are made for each other,and there were not those confusing moments) how nice it would be!!!!!!!!!!!
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Goldenlady~
yeah he loves his mom and would do anything for her if she needed it, he can be a little complex at times, he's very good to his children too. I just saw him today and he said I'm breaking his heart because I won't move in with him. He wants to know why I won't I can't really explain it other than I'm not ready. Other than that we have a great relationship and he's all i could want in a man. I just hope I don't go into panic mode and screw it up, that's why I'm taking some time with this man I know how I can be and I could head for cover if I feel to much stress. He's the most persistent man i have ever met and I don't always know how to take that he just can't help it and I'm not trying to change him either. But don't you agree we have only been seeing each other for 2 months it's way too soon to move in I haven't been single that long and I know it would be a huge mistake at this time.
Waterbaby🙂
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Deep Water~
Damn! You are so on point. I totally agree. You've given me a different perspective on Cancer & Pisces relationship. I would often feel certain ways when interacting with my Cancers and they would reflect it back. I'll definately keep that in mind when trying to get into the mind of the Cancer man I'm persuing.

Waterbaby~
2 months is to soon. A little bit more time would be good. Do you think he wants to marry you. Do you want to get married again?
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Water,
I can very well imagine the situation of your man...
He is just figuring out the nice possibility of setteling with you,
Ok let us take it this way,if something seems promising to you,you just see a possibility that your life will be a better one after doing something and don't want to miss out on the opportunity won't you want to grab it as soon as possible—
He just finds thst possibility in setteling with you.
Is he at fault....No??
I know you also realise this,be in his place,I am not adjucating on his part but I wan't to really clear the confusion.
Well that said now let me be in your shoes..
You said 2 months is too soon! well yes it is..tell him..He may be a little impatient..just because he can't get any practical answers from your side
I myself have struggled a lot in figuring out this practical side of Pisces(Impractical shall I say not to offend anyone)
Well can you put your confusion into words— words that he can understand!!
Quiet difficult..Isn't it..This is all that needs to be done..Once this is done ni problems...
I already told you give him some assurance..
I know it is difficult for pisces to tell that without being sure yourself(You consider that as cheating..Right!!),but just for his mental satisfaction you can at least do that!!
Use your creativity, both of you,you have it,it will help you a lot in balancing the situation..make plans for future...
Soon,you said....Sooner the better!!!

Good luck, I want another Pisces Cancer Relation to bloom..It is quiet Beautiful!!
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Deep water~ I haven't been on in awhile, I have been so busy with work and my two kids but I do understand what you are telling me, I have been on a roller coaster of emotions with this cancer man he has done nothing wrong to me, he loves me, wants to marry me, wants me to move in already, Oh god you no the pisces panic is growing, He said he knows he must wait and he will, but I have never been with someone who want to be with me all the time it's so strange to me and I have a hard time telling him I need alone time he gets so sad. My family is causing me some trouble they are always in my business, They feel I shouldn't be dating anyone at all since I just got out of a 10 year relationship back in April, My sister came to my house the other night and was screaming at Karl (the cancer guy) telling him that he must be a possive man because he bought me a really sweet card, she called him an ahole because she feels he shouldn't be over all the time, I have told her my personal life is not her business and she needs to stay out well it got so bad I slapped her across her face and I called the police on her My sister is crazy she needs meds really bad I can't be around her too often, she was treating Karl so badly for no reason he has never done a thing to her she's so jealous and angry all of the time I hate to hit anyone but I couldn't help myself then to top it off she grabbed my 5yr old daughter and took off with her the police went to her house and then I came over and picked her up. My sister is a Leo and she's so LEO. I will not speak to her until she says sorry and gets medication she bi-polar and she has mad OCD. She made Karl feel so bad that he said he felt sick and that she was going to cause me to turn away from him he said he was hurting inside so bad he couldn't think straight at work and he felt sick because he loves me so much that he doesn't want anything to break us up. I felt terrible at work because I was then thinking am I in the wrong maybe I should slow down and not be so in love with this man, I'm going crazy my family seems to not want to support my choices and when I tell you this Man is wonderful I mean it he would do anything for me he cares, he works he wants my children and I to live with him and he has 2 kids, I can't find a damn thing wrong with him and my family wants me to feel bad because I'm so happy!!!! I do NOT understand they can care and worry but if I'm ok why try to ruin it and want to see me lose this man— I know I have written a lot and I'm going on about stuff but I feel so stressed out over this and I'm 2nd guessing myself and I know I shouldn't be. What do you think about all of this any ideas—?
Oh and they make a big deal about Karl being married twice, I have never been married so they act like it's a crime that he has been. Give me some help here, advice or ideas, My mother is now taking my sisters side saying I'm in the wrong for calling the police and I'm spending too much time with Karl. I just feel like telling my mom to go to hell too, MY sister controls her whole life and they fight all of the time my sister is always mean to my mom and hits her and treats like crap, but then takes her side in matter like this it's BULL CRAP. I know I'll shut UP now
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If you don't mind someone else commenting.Wow your families crazy too,so I empathise with that.Do put your family in thier place or avoid them if you don't want to hurt them.At the least,you shouldn't let anyone tell you what you want or what you don't,so that MAYBE(maybe)might get them to back off IF there is even a tiny bit of sanity in them without hurting them.Just try to aloft yourself to that so you don't make any unclouded by emotions choices.Don't jump into moving in with him out of defending him but don't break it off with him to please anyone other than yourself either.Not wanting to move in with someone in only a matter of a couple months ISN'T impractical,it's very wise.But if you worry about your family,maybe thier right and blah,blah,blah,you could lose someone who could be good for you too.Tell him about the whys though,but don't let him dictate you either.Take your time to find out what you want so it's not dictated by anyone but yourself or how you feel and will be 100% true and pure when the choice is made.
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JUS go out ,get a place to get quiet time. ANd you a grown woman waterbaby. It is YOU that went thru LABOUR with those kids.IT is u had to raise the children,endure struggles. ANd it is YOU that gonna see them to a great future. Now for Cancer man, he should really give you some space as well. U see sometimes what happens with us cancers when we give people space we tend to feel that their eyes will go elsehwere a lil insecurity hence we want to make sure,(be it pampering u rotten,lol) that u there with us rock solid in a relationship. So taaalk to the cancer man, sit down and talk, a lil dinner or something,wine soothing setting or u can take the kids out and u all have time together. Jus enjoy the moments.
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Daemon~
you are right about ny cancer man being afraid of me looking for something better he hates when I go out with out him he always thinks men will be hitting on me and he's afraid that since he's older than me I'm going to find someone closer to my own age and leave him, I wouldn't do that normally for me once I'm with someone I'm true to them and I give them my all. He know I am waiting for awhile before I am moving any where he said he'll wait forever for me. He wants to be with me all of the time and I know I need to tell him I need space at times so I don't feel like I am drowning. I do need my private time I like being alone sometimes, he thinks when I get like that that he has done something wrong I tell him no everything is fine. my 10 year relationship
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oops I hit post by accident, what I was saying is that my 10 year relationship was over with emotionally for the last 3 years due to being with a an abusive piece of crap!! my family needs to either support my choices or stay out of my life I can't take it anymore. My sister the Leo is just a mean person and I hate being around her she's doesn't want anyone in her personal business but she's in everyone elses all of the time she lives with my mom and her son, doesn't pay anything, she uses her money for her car, and clothes, and going out all of the time. My mom works 70 hrs a week and ends up paying for everything it's bullcrap. But she wants to judge me for dating a wonderful man and being happy and that's wrong — I can't see it can U?? she can't have a relationship she's really never been in one because she's nuts and no one can handle being around her she treats people so badly that they turn away from her, my mom says we just need to deal with her and let it go, screw that I'm done letting it go and having her walk all over me. But the cancer and I are ok we talked for a really long time the other nite and he knows how I feel about everything and is going to not put so much pressure on me and let everything happen by it's self.
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Waterbaby

I haven't seen anything this guy is doing wrong besides smothering you a bit, which believe it or not...Usually once you get that type of treatment (especially from a Cancer) You tend to miss it when it is gone, so don't be hasty in letting him go because he might be a little clingy...Daemon explained it well, insecurity is mostly it, but we just like spending time with our mates...just as long as he is not becoming a controlling, domineering, a-hole...those traits might be there so watch out!

As far as the family, as Tiamat says, put them in their place! Sisters USUALLY mean well but sometimes they can butt in and there are things we all as people need to learn on our own and if the best way is by experience.

On another note, this reminds me of the question I asked somewhere on the Pisces board...why are you guys always so ready to run away when you FINALLY get what you want? Love, affection, and total devotion...I'll never understand...Good Luck though, you deserve the best!

CL/CM2
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Cancerlady~
I have no idea why we tend to run from what we want most only I think it's the thought of not being in total control of ourlives, living with someone can tend to have you focus on that person and their needs and wants and A pisces person will almost forget about themselves and give everything to their partner. Plus commitment can be scarey sometimes too, I like having my alone time and I'm afraid of losing that maybe I'm really not sure. This man is so wonderful and I love that he gives me so much attention and affection. He's just everything I could ever want in a man and I don't know why I'd push him away I've almost done it 3 times but have stopped myself and realized what I'd give up and how depressed I'd be with out in my life.
I'll keep you posted. As Far as my sister goes I am staying away from her she always goes below the belt she says things to people you wouldn't say to someone you hated. I just can't be around her negative thinking any longer. I need positive people in my life and my cancer man seems to be my future and our relationship is like none I've ever been in before. We are connected, he knows me so well and it's just so strange sometimes to be so close to someone already. As always thanks to everyone for great advice and info. Waterbaby🙂
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cancerlady~
Thank you, Are you still dating a pisces man?? if so how is that going?? I wanted to tell you something so funny my Best friend also Pisces was seeing 2 guys a cap and a cancer well the Cappy of course turned out to play mind games and not be able to make up his mind about anything as far as a relationship goes, one day he wanted one the next day he was pushing her away. Well the cancer man she's dating totally different he loves her, he'd have her move in today, not sure about marriage but he's ready to spend his life with her, well now she's not sure about what she wants and she calls me for advice I told her what you said about the cancer man and his affection and the smothering that in the end it might be a good thing and we'd miss if it was gone. She said you know I would miss that man and his madness LOL so she's sticking with the cancer and she's taking it slow and letting the magic happen. My best friend and I are born on the same day and we know each other better than anyone we always call each other at the exact time, the weirdest stuff happens between us, I know what she's thinking, One time she had a dream about wolves and the next day she got a card from me with wolves on the front, she called and said I hate U you always know. Pisces are so in tune with each other it can be scarey at times. But I think Pisces and Cancer can be the same way the strong bond is awesome. I never would've guessed a cancer would be my missing piece to my life puzzle but he is we fit together perfectly.
Later On, Waterbaby🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
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I am so happy that you decided to stick with Mr. Cancer and also your friend. You are right about the bond...it is probably the only reason Mr. Pisces is still around. That and how beautiful he is! Makes me hot just thinking about it!

Anyways, as far as him...We are "technically" still together, but he is about to give up on the music and go back to what he was doing before which is going to have him out of town most of the time. Like how before when I was saying that I only saw him once or twice in a month...Honestly Waterbaby, I can't go through that again, especially now that we are supposed to be a "couple."

Since I told him I was pregnant, I have seen him maybe three times, only one of those times he actually spent the night. I can't be neglected like that. He's always saying he has a job that he has to do and can't help his schedule, but I am SO SICK & TIRED of being alone! I go to the movies alone, to dinner alone, to EVERYTHING alone. I might as well be single!

I've tried to tell him it isn't working and I think it would be best if we just be friends for the kids sake, but he won't listen. My love for him won't let me push him away to hard because in all reality, I DO want to be with him. He'll never be the man that I need so I would rather let go now than be even more hurt in the future.

I am moving back to Indiana to be closer to my family because I cannot do twins alone...I know he won't be much help so that's it. My father wants me to drop everything & come now, but I don't have a job there yet. I am not telling him I am leaving until the week of, My heart just couldn't take if I had to be in the delivery room alone...sadly I don't put it past him to do that. SO that's my sad sad story. I have the WORST taste in men....

BUT I am SO excited about being a mother! So that makes up for it, I know they love will love me.

CL/CM2
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Cancerlady~
I'm sorry to hear your pisces man will not commit, that's a huge problem pisces have at times, They want you but they can't seem to see it in themselves to just say yes I love this person so much I need them in my life because they are so afraid they might have to give up something for it, like free time, or friends etc. I have almost bolted a few times from Mr. Cancer I still get the feeling once in awhile but I calm down and really think it through and realize what a jerk I was about to be to someone who cares and loves very deeply. But at this time in your life you can't wait around for him you have given too many chances and now your family is waiting for you with open arms. You will have 2 beautiful babies that will need you and you will have help from your family, You have a wonderful future ahead of you with or with out Mr.Pisces. Keep the positive feelings, negative takes you nowhere. Good luck with your move and I'm sure you'll keep us posted on what's happening.
Love & Light.....Waterbaby