Is she a Cancerian? This could be interesting !!

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Hi I'm new here and sorry it's a bit of a long story. I appreciate any advice 🙂. So the story goes....

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I met a new girl in my workplace but we are on different dept. Meaning we don't deal with each other but working in a same area. And it's weird that I always stumble across her before I start noticing her. Even weirder, I can definitely spot/feel her in a big crowd within 10 yards of vicinity.

Then I get to know her details without much effort (her name, where she sits, cellphone #, her FB). Either it comes to me or I know just where to find them. I don't eavesdrop.

I'm unaware that I had fallen head over heels in love with her. I just can't keep my eyes off her. Unexplainable why all my senses concentrated to her. She is sweet, decent, a bit conservative, confident and aloof. Cancerian? It took me 1 week to decipher her sign. My best bet she is 2nd Decan Cancerian with

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Sun Cancer
Venus Leo (loves attention?)
Mars Capricorn (extremely slow in opening up her feelings?)
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I believe she caught me staring at her twice though I dart off quickly. We still stumble a few times yet 'pretend' nothing happen. She keeps her eyes in the boat but I wanted to give her a smile. Maybe awkward and a little nervous? I feel that she knows I'm paying attention to her as I pass by.

I tried different approach. Facebook. Sent her a message asking if she is comfortable for me to add her as a friend and p.s. her if she is a Cancerian. No respond and she ignore my request. Maybe she freak out or something. Bad move?

There is once as I'm leaving the cafeteria, I notice she is sitting behind me at one corner with her friend. I wonder why she is not facing her friend or her food when I passby instead at other direction? Too obvious she spotted me first. And I hate to think that I'm making her life miserable.

Yet once I did saw her glancing at me while I'm not aware cause my Sagt friend pull some dumb idea on me when she is around. Sagt just can't shut their big mouth. I still love them. 😄
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And normally I don't like talking to other girls in person (not acting cool but just don't feel like it) and there is once I was like queuing up with her group of colleagues, guys and girls. Though I was talking to one of the guys, and she was like having training at the other corner, I saw she was paying more attention towards us. Or probably me whether I'm talking to any other girls? Just my observation. (Ya, you would say this is one of the sign a Cancerian is interested)

Then the next day my boss (a she) came and ask me for meeting and left. And this girl was sitting right there (probably heard someone calling my name) turn and glance at my boss. Yes, probably this is nothing. And then later part of the day, I saw some of her colleague guys were flirting with her. She was like staring at me when I passby. I don't feel alright but still I give her a weak smile. (Ya, Cancerian traits. She wanted to know my reaction. Just guessing)

I start texting her on that night. Checking with her if she got my FB messages. Wondering if she is still single. Admit I have been staring at her. Compliment her. Tell her I would like to get to know her. Ask her to let me know if I have been doing something inappropriate. No reply.

After two days, I ring her up but she didn't pick up. I text her to apologize if I'm bothering her and a good night. (Ya, Cancerian somehow hates to be on the phone for many reasons)

Next day, I saw her again. She did peep on me whether I'm staring at her when I pass by. Probably after I told her in my text. She did return the stare once. We had quite a long one and as I got closer, she was like looking at something behind me. I gave her a smile but she didn't smile back. 😢

After that I decided to talk to her in person. Rarely had a chance as so many people around and I do not want to make it too obvious cause we don't deal with each other. Yet I'm shy and nervous when she is around and we never spoken before. Well I did drag myself up to her but we didn't actually talk. I was like asking the permission to use the tool she was sitting next to it. And that's it. Then she was like shocked, shy and seems nervous. She politely apologize and I told her it is fine that she can continue with her work. I just need it for awhile. What a day !! I text her again and told her to stay cool as I would like to call her at night and hope she would pick up the call. I call her twice and as expected, she didn't pick up.
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Sending her flowers has always been in my mind (Venus in Leo?). But then I realize what if I have been contacting the wrong number? I send another text and check if she received it. (I know it's wrong to stalk but I need some confirmation) To my surprise, she did read the text I sent. So I got the valid number and plan the surprise next week.

The next day I don't see her around. I text her again. Wish her well. Tell her I miss her a bit and ask her to enjoy the Father's day holiday and also becareful while travelling. No reply as expected.

I didn't bother her during the holiday and when I'm back to office, I stumble across her again. She was figuring out something in her head but she looks right at me (slightly nervous) as she walk slowly and as usual, I look at her and smile.

As I have planned, I requested a flower delivery service to her office on the next day. White roses. Both are busy so didn't actually met. Text her again. Ask her if she got my gift. Hope she would like it. Ask her if she is single and I would like to date her this coming weekend. Tell her I'm nervous when she is around. Tell her not to forget her dinner and take care herself. No reply.

Days later, I send a simple text to her again because she is away. Ask her if she is alright. Tell her to contact me if she needs any help. No reply. (well ya, I might be insane for keeping up with this no reply game)


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*All these happening within a month
*She never smile at me
*I may have been moving too fast
*She might not be a Cancerian as I don't know her birth date
*Rumors said she already got a bf but I just ignore the unreliable source
*I did check with her from time to time if I'm bothering her
*Culture-wise we are more reserved
*We never actually talk !!!
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Myself
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Sun Virgo
Moon Aquarius
Venus Leo Rx Virgo (pretty messed up)
Mars Leo

Had a tough relationship with my ex-Capri after 5 1/2 years together. It's a too demanding/independent vs too cold relationship.

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I have no idea if she is single or commited. Any indication from her behavior?

Is she playing hard-to-get or she is really shy & nervous? Did my predicted Venus and Mars sign helps?

How do you female Cancerian deal with unwanted attention? Are you afraid of them? (based on her Venus sign is unlikely the case)

Cancerian hates the phone? And worse in returning call? What about text?

How do I talk to her if she seems so nervous & intimidate? I just want her to be calm and happy.

What should I do next? Mirror her? Stop seems-like-stalking behaviour? Direct confrontation? I'm ready to walk away if I'm making her life uncomfortable.

Please advice??_
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Dear, Im not a Cancer but Ive been studyding them because I date one.
Astrology aside, you are making this girl feel UNCOMFORTABLE with all this pushing. She is obviously shy and not so strong willed, (I would face you and speak my mind, but she cant-dont want to)
I mean she doesnt reply to your texts, to your calls, to your FB friendship request. Isnt it obvious she is not interested?
I would show a hint if I was interested.
Playing hard to get? it doesn't seem to be the case. Women know the subtle difference between ignoring somebody and making them want to chase them. That generally involves answering for example 1 text message in 3 that you send.
But we ALWAYS show some hints, that's the strategy.
If she is a cancer, she is definitely SHELLING, pushing a cancer is the quickest and easiest way to make him crawl into his shell and not come back. and they will come back when they WANT to, even if you poke them, which makes matters worse.

You are too aggressive, this is not going to help win over this girl. In fact, I guess she thinks you are some kind of STALKER by now.

My advice is...cool it.

Stop all action.

And little by little, maybe you could say hi timidly, but please don't stare at her or push her.

Cancers HATE the phone and will not text so much FYI. but in this case, whatever her sign, just STOP please.

Not getting ANY reply is an OBVIOUS sign that she is not happy about your attention.

let it go!!! calm down, and relax. If this is meant to be, it will, but pushing will not help, it will make the person AFRAID AND WEARY of you..and it will backfire.
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Cool.... I do read some of your posts in here. Quite helpful. Well at least you are telling me from what you FEEL I guess, and exactly what I need to hear, a different perspective. Cuz I might think "She can text me to shut up if she's afraid to face me right?". Virgo are stuck with reasoning and being practical. 😄

Talk about hint, I really need some opinion from female Cancerian. More on the "stare". As you Pisces are more active, surely you would speak up your mind, drop a hint, etc.. but remember Cancer are passive. In fact, 2nd Decan are more willful and secretive. Forgive me for being curious and very detail. 😛

http://www.novareinna.com/constellation/cancerdecans.html<BR>
Ya right, maybe you got the point she is not playing hard-to-get. But I'm still not convinced with the idea she is ignoring me. I'm still clueless with the look she gave me back. Unless she avoids eye contact at all cost. I don't mean she is definitely interested but unlikely is ignoring.

Yes, I do agree she is getting defensive and I admit I'm somewhat aggressive. Perhaps my Mars in Leo drives me to that extent. Like I said, I'm aware I'm moving fast and I do check every moves I made. I didn't want to push her into her SHELL and not coming back. Leo have big heart and I just wanted to make sure she is happy, not otherwise intimidating. Though some ideas are contradicting, still thanks for your wonderful advice. I don't want to speak further or else I might exhaust your mind with my reasoning. 😛

And surely I will back off for now. I don't like to take things by force. BTW, I don't really gaze like a weirdo. If she notice, I would just smile and stop looking.

Please post more comments, especially female Cancerian. I definitely NEED your input. Thanks 🙂
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Hmmm... I don't throw that stare around too often. But if I know someone is interested in me, I might use it to rope em in a bit more until I can figure them out. I like the attention.
I could just be that... if she is a Crab, it sounds like you've caught her attention but she doesn't know what to do with you.

It can freak a Cancer gal out to get that much attention, that soon. Probably suspicious of your motives.

I suggest ignoring her for awhile. That will peek her interest even more and have her wondering what she's done to turn you off. Don't flirt with other girls, just breeze by her like she's not even there. It's not really a game, it will just give her the room she needs to 'observe' you.

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Shell, you got some good points from a crab standpoint. Appreciate that. I agree she might be indecisive with the intense attention she got. And definitely yes, she needs more time to 'analyze' before moving further. Normally she tends to sit somewhere I will usually passby. And I notice that whenever I'm at a distance, she is alright. But when I get closer, she starts to feel uncomfortable. While other person who gets next to her, she is perfectly normal or doesn't care. A quick glance would seems she is avoiding me. But think further, she is clinging too hard on her emotions. I hate to see what she is going through.

You also remind me crabs never confront, but come sideways or back. 😉 I do feel that sometimes she stalk me from behind but I wouldn't interrupt. Just good to know. Anyway, I seldom talk to girls so I'm doing fine on 'don't flirt' part. There is once where she definitely aware of me walking right behind her and she had to turn back probably to get something. So she was like slowing down and move to sideway, and then head on the other direction. Avoids total confrontation. I didn't look back though. The way she moves rings a bell?

Basically I do drop hints that I was coming forward. I be honest with her and open up my feelings. Maybe a little too hasty but what do you think? Crab will still 'bait' and 'test' to figure out for surety? Crab are known for carefully guarding their emotions meanwhile we Virgo lock all our emotions cuz we don't know how to deal with it. Knowing her makes me get in touch with my emotions. But I'm confused with the risks involved. Example, backing off is good to tell her I'm no pushover or needy. However, she may takes it as lack of interest if she expects more attention from the chase. From her Venus Leo, she supposedly enjoys a lot of romance and chase.

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Hopefully I'm not hitting the wrong switch. 🙂 Mind if I ask how do you relate your mood with your work? Let's say if you are happy, do you work longer hours or just go back earlier?

Today I see her again and she did look at my way. I felt so bad that I had to ignore her. She definitely can feel I'm trying to avoid eye contact. She had a haircut and probably would want me to look at her and compliment her. *shrug*
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honestly, i don't think she's interested and she more likely than not will not tell you this. in her mind she is telling you by ignoring. i wouldn't make much of the stare, because i tend to accidentally make eye contact/stare at people without realizing. either that, or she's trying to make sure you're not staring at her. i think you should definitely leave her alone. i hate the phone and i get annoyed even when my best friend calls me "too much". i can only imagine you've made things exponentially worse by all the texts that you've sent and the few phone calls. if she were into you, and she did have venus in leo as i do, she would've made it a bit more obvious she was interested, even if she were shy.

i think even if you did ignore her to peak her interest, it wouldn't be genuine interest. it'd be more like, "why am i no longer appealing to you" type of interest, and she may, even though she truly doesn't like it, try and ensnare you just to feel wanted.
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Whoa, relax gem. You definitely burst out everything you feel. Are you alright? Please don't get me wrong. I'm here to make sure she is fine. And I have already back off so what do you really expect me to do next? make myself disappear? Stay cool...

Do you ever accidentally hold your stare gem? Seriously, I'm getting even more confuse right now. We asian are not into eye contact stuff. Put her aside. Please fill me more since you are venus leo & mars capri (as detail as possible cuz i don't feel things, sry). How do you deal with unwanted attention versus attention you are interested? And what do you do to get the attention you want?

One thing that you are definitely wrong about leo thing. Leo won their price with pride, not pull tricks. I definitely not ignoring her for the sake of her interest. I'm ignoring her for her own good and if she really is not interested, I wud gladly walk away. Thanks for your opinion, very different but certainly genuine.
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i'm not trying to insult you, i'm just giving my opinion as to why she's reacting/not reacting to you. the way i've dealt with unwanted attention is by not reciprocating any attention. it's nice of you to be concerned about her, but if it's something she wanted to talk to you about she'd be more open about and actually making conversation with you. whether it be in person or via email/phone. one thing i really should be saying though, is that it is good that you're backing off, but you should be backing off not just for her sake, but for your own. you're investing emotions into her, which is only leaving you to feel confused.

as for the staring, i can't necessarily speak for her on this part but, i'm usually caught up in thought and a lot of times i'm unaware of the fact that i've been looking at someone. even if she did intentionally stare at you, it was just a stare. nothing more than what it actually was. i say this mainly because she hasn't tried to show any interest whatsoever.

the leo thing, it's not a trick it's a superficially hurt ego. it's not playing games for the sake of playing games, it's wanting attention because it strokes the ego. this is something, someone would only do if they're insecure about themselves. i merely mentioned it as something that could happen with an insecure person with venus in leo.

again, i don't think she's interested. you don't have to ignore her, just stop putting effort into something that's not reciprocating.

now, if she were interested, you would sure know it! for one, she would've accepted your friend request and would've responded to some of your texts and calls. not to say she'd be the one to initiate things but she would make it clear for you to understand that she wants you to initiate things. now if she were/is shy she'd probably would come off as uncomfortable or nervous but she wouldn't not respond to texts.

i think what you should have done from the jump start, were to take things slow. anything that moves too fast just comes off as plain suspicious. even if the intent is pure. if she comes around later, and doesn't do it for the reason i mentioned earlier, and does it out of real interest. i would suggest you take things sloooooooow, we like slow, it makes us feel more stable and secure. don't go rushing ahead when you haven't really been given the okay sign to go.
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Hey gem, don't worry, we Virgo loves to set things straight so no offense. 😛 Your mercury certainly let you speak your feelings in a crab way and I can't thank you enough for your honest and direct answers. And I appreciate your respond to my questions. 🙂 Be proud of yourself. I doubt you are 2nd Decan gem. There are some gemini features on your face. But if you really are, I won't be hesitate to take your advice.

Yes gem, I absolutely agree on the leo ego. But honestly, I lack of that trait and don't seems to enjoy attention, prefer to be left alone. I feel uncomfortable when some girls eye on me. It's complicate cuz my Venus retrograde and probably my Sun suppress the leo ego. I'd say I do things the Leo way but feel like a Virgo. If you ask me what do I expect from her, I'd say nothing. Just a smile will do knowing that she is happy.

And hun, 10 texts plus 3 calls in a month wouldn't seems too aggressive right? I don't know. Maybe for you crabs it's suffocating. I will take all suggestions into serious consideration. Once again thank you. 🙂
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Hi vixen,

Oh yes, I certainly is creepy so please hide all your details and lock all the doors as mr. hades from underworld is coming to town. OMG ladies, cut me some slack please. Don't feel, I'm not pissed just tired.

Alright, back to the topic. You can call me nosy, but I'm honest and rather direct. I work in a good company and don't have a creepy look. It doesn't live up to my age. Yes, I'm still creepy but not to the extent of a stalker. I don't bother her during working hours. Just can't take my eyes off her when I met her.

And it's not hard (or maybe it's just me) to know someone's name that works in a same area. There's a thing female call 'gossip' and what's more when she is a newcomer? So now you got the picture how one info leads to another? Ok, guessing someone's sign is probably rude. But fall fast and strongly doesn't mean unreal.

Unconventional, yes but I prefer the word eccentric. 😛 I'm shy in person. Virgo is the most feminine sign in the zodiac - virgin. Shy people don't like direct approach and definitely will set them running before you could finish introducing yourself. You need to get her attention and make sure she is comfortable by being more often around her. Like I said, I did go up to her and say hi but she gets too shy and nervous. I can't bear to think how much she tremble inside. I felt so bad, hate that moment and with my heart beating so fast, I definitely won't approach her again. It doesn't really work for now.

You all got some valid points there yet some points are unexplainable. Crabs really do know how to make diversion so we, other signs can hardly read you guys. Backing off is definitely the best choice for now as I do understand that I will not get anything out from her if I continue with the no-reply game.

I still feel that she is not avoiding me and like Shell said, she might not know what to do with me. She still sits somewhere I would usually walkby, not that there is no other places or in her office. I still ignore her today. I also notice she peek on me at a distance before I make a turn in other direction. What do you think? 'don't get near me' or 'why are you ignoring me'?
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Sorry ladies, I know I yap alot but please bear with me. Let me know and I will tone down the details. 😄

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Hey sdgaf, sounds like something fascinates you? Care to share? 🙂

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Hello Vixen, probably you are right but her behaviour still resemble a crab don't you think? And I can definitely tell you she isn't Air or Fire sign. Hmm... water loves the attention.... but then aggressive attention could be the downhill part? And she was like "Whoa... I like the attention but I haven't give you the GREEN light so why are you marching forward? I need time to think" - shell. Do you fishes reciprocate even if you are not interested and what makes you feel she doesn't like my attention?

Let me put it this way after I rearrange all your comments. One thing in common for some of the comments, you girls focus on the creepiness and conclude from there? Let me know if I'm wrong.

fishes views - PA & vixen
(too much and sudden > she feels creepy > not reciprocate > not interested > cool it)

crab view - shell
(caught her attention > too much and sudden > confuse or feels creepy > give her time)

crab view - gem
(seeing someone > not reciprocate > not interested)

Vixen, somehow your comment make me see where my confusion kick in - "Why she doesn't dig the way I do things while she's supposed to be otherwise?". That's where you start questioning her sign, right?

"to a degree" really caught my attention. Tell me what you think if I put it this way?

(water signs dig attention > I march too fast (off the limit) > makes her feels creepy or confuse > not reciprocate > need to think?)
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Hi bunny, I'm impressed. Your two cents mean alot more. Are you doing cultural studies? You seems to have quite a handful of knowledge there. Good suggestion but I don't know if that will turn into suspicion when she sees me talking to her buddies. Let me think about it. Thank you. 🙂

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Hi gem, if you weren't interested do you avoid the person? You mentioned earlier that moving too fast is plain suspicious. If you are interested and I'm coming too fast, what do you think you will do? "I said stay where you are and put your hands up where I can see them" kinda stuff or you would gladly reciprocate? One thing I don't see in your comment is me being creepy. Or just that you don't feel it that way due to your Venus Leo?

Hmm.... if that is the case, I would need to look into the possibility that she is seeing someone else. Unlikely she wants me to string along. Just hate my rising, it never let my mind rest. 😢
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hi leomoon, hmm... another interesting crab and slightly smarter. Thank you for your time reading the story. And yes, you have just found the extreme one. Congratulation but there's no trophy for that. I'm so sorry.

You are not being helpful if you are here to mock me. I bet you did came across a few crazy Virgos in your life but I'm not the one messing with you. Please be cool...

You definitely don't have any idea about Virgo. In fact, we, both signs are basically insane when it comes to love. Why? Because insecurity in love. And that's why we do crazy things. If the intent is not evil, try to look at their way and be more thoughtful. I'm tired of explaining myself so look up the comments above.

It's either she didn't give or I failed to pickup signals. I'm not a feeler so I don't really know. What I can tell you is this, she ignores me in the beginning but later giving back me a look (not mean) means anything positive to you? Probably I used the wrong word to describe certain situation. Thanks for hinting on that.

Maybe I should say 'look at' rather than 'stare'. When you are around someone you like, and you look at him. Do you call that a 'stare' or something else? Definitely I'm using the wrong word if 'stare' should be used with anger or hatred only. Kindly correct me. 😢
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Hey Vixen, I do get what you mean by different. Fishes are known to understand and feel for others yet sympathetic. Definitely has a good heart but you are a dreamer, so you need to take care not to fantasize and stay in the dream. Emotional-wise this will put you in a vulnerable position and easily taken advantages. You should best hang out with good company and be proud of yourself.

Yeah, it does sounds creepy but crab are not that dumb I guess. She certainly can figure out how I get the info. But guessing her sign probably a little too much and if she really is a 2nd Decan, she might not like it because they are secretive. And I would say this might be the reason she seems aloof in the beginning. I have Gemini rising and Aqua moon, and definitely a curious freak - nosy. The rest are in my profile.

I do agree with you regarding her respond. But my gut feeling tells me something else. I'm not sure because somehow it seems we are connected. I have been ignoring her for the 3rd day and she sure can feel me when I'm around, just like I did. I came into the workarea today and accidentally glance at her and she was looking back at me already. I really need some clarification on 2nd Decan behavior.

Speaking of fish, I'm not sure about being cold. Because there are 2 girls in my workplace, both are married, seems quite friendly. The first fish, she is really nice, she smile and initiate conversation and because I don't really know her, I felt a bit awkward. The second fish is slightly reserved but she gives me a friendly look from time to time but I just ignore it. Sorry I might be rude but I don't like funny ideas.

Well the weirder she is, I would feel even more likely she is a crab. Because crabs are very insecure with their feelings. She won't reveal any or even slightest indication that might reveal her feelings until she feel safe. That's what makes me think she gets so nervous when I'm close as she afraid I can see what she feels and not because I'm creepy. Female crabs, do validate this point.

Ya, certainly I will back off for now and let her stalk me, to be even. 😛 And thank you as I enjoy exchanging views with you. 🙂
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haha... you Virgos ARE nuts. Thinky, thinky, thinky!

hades, after ignoring her for about a week, go up to her, look deep into her eyes, and say "Hello" in a soft, yet confident way. Then return to ignoring her.

I don't know if she likes you or not, or what the hell's happening... but it sounds like you're both having fun with this. (Her maybe more than you. Do you ever turn that brain off and just... drift?)
I think if she thought you were a serious stalker... she'd be making a big deal about it.
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Posted by seavixen2
cool...just remember that Astrological signs aren't the gospel...I'm a Pisces and encompass alot of the qualities, BUT I'm a Leo moon and Sag rising and the rest of my chart is all air...I'm not "dreamy" or "vulnerable" at all. Good luck with your endeavor...and just remember, don't find out her address and show up there for god's sake.😄



Vixen, sounds like you are a strong fish and it's good to hear that. The one that swims against the current. 🙂 I have seen some weak fish, and they certainly abuse themselves when they're hurt and get into trouble. That's a sad scene. And thanks for your support, I surely need them and don't you worry, I won't do that kinda creepy stuff. 😄
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Posted by shellshocker
haha... you Virgos ARE nuts. Thinky, thinky, thinky!

hades, after ignoring her for about a week, go up to her, look deep into her eyes, and say "Hello" in a soft, yet confident way. Then return to ignoring her.

I don't know if she likes you or not, or what the hell's happening... but it sounds like you're both having fun with this. (Her maybe more than you. Do you ever turn that brain off and just... drift?)
I think if she thought you were a serious stalker... she'd be making a big deal about it.



Hey Shell, you are back. Appreciate your follow up. 😄 What can I say... Virgos are certainly NUTS. But I don't know if the rest think as much as I do. 😛

And Shell, wow, you sure know how to peak her interest. 🙂 That would really drives her crazy. I think she might enjoy the attention but certainly will leave her feeling more confuse. Hmm.... how about this? On hold the ignoring part cuz I don't feel like fiddling with her feelings. See how's her respond to my approach and act accordingly.

And I was thinking to befriend her. Yes, all of you did say go sloooow. Probably a good start and give us a chance to get to know each other. Back then I said I wanted to get to know her more, and all of a sudden I pour everything out on her. This could possibly make her feels suspicious and stunned like what you've claimed earlier.

Shell, if my brain ever shutdown it's when the migraine sh*t strike...😉 As for her interest, I agree that she possibly enjoying the attention (as water signs did) but might not be interested yet to go further. I'm a total stranger still.
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Posted by cancersunleomoon123

I enjoyed my virgo's crazy. I do have many ideas of virgo,acutally. I could be a virgo expert. I do look at things other people's way. I'm great at that. giving someone a look doesn't enough to keep bothering them if all they do is give a look and not respond more after all you've done. You have portrayed yourself as a psycho,and even me with ego and insecurity issues,i enjoy a little psycho but she has given you NO hints. You are seeing something that is not there based on the story you have given me. The only reason i would think you have a chance is because for some reason she hasn't told you to her alone yet. Which is odd.This whole story doesn't make sense to me.



Hahaha... look who's in charge now. Like I said, you are one interesting crab, leomoon, and I really like your attitude. I mean you are OK, direct and strong sense of justice. 😄 I guess you might have a good deal of Air and Fire in your chart. Mercury cancer?

So you are saying, "giving back a look and not dropping hints doesn't mean she likes my attention" and "because she didn't say NO, most likely I got a chance". But when you link both together, the whole thing doesn't make any sense. No hints and not saying NO. You sure used some logic here. And that's the SAME thing confuse my mind.

Hmm... let me think about your opinion and compare, very interesting. I will fill you with more details shortly and I have some questions as well. Thank you 😄
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Posted by shellshocker

It can freak a Cancer gal out to get that much attention, that soon. Probably suspicious of your motives.



This is sooooo true......maintain the mystery a bit. When u act too aggressive and too sweet it makes us wonder your true motives.

Just go by her pace but still show interest. We are not gonna just open up like that & u being so peristent is not considering her a bit cuz we are caught up in or shells.

Just be cool dude!
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Posted by MoonBunny
Got your PM. Unless I'm mistaken, the women in your country generally desire a man to marry. They'd be thrilled if a man pays them special attention, and analyze the match to bits. Very traditional. Girls will be shy and maybe they'll take little steps. They won't confide directly to you, you'd have better luck information mining by buttering up her best girlfriends to let you know what your girl thinks.

Just my 2c



Let me point out something important first so that we all are in sync.

#01 Sorry for using the wrong word stare. Kindly replace it with eye contact. My bad.
#02 I don't live in US. Sorry I didn't mention this earlier. Culture may have impact on behavior.
#03 In my place, we rarely make eye contact when we speak. In US, probably this is rude.
#04 If opposite sex makes eye contact usually means warmth/interested in my place.
#05 Both of us are shy. Doe take this into consideration of behavior outcome.
#06 I still think she is a crab.
#07 contact her thru FB, texts and calls each split into avg. 3 days interval (not done daily so she has breathing space)
#08 I keep my texts content polite, caring and light
#09 I'm still much like a stranger cuz we haven't talk
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I've gone through the story again and note down some highlights [my opinion in sq brackets]
# Gather her details [may sounds creepier than it actually seems. A newcomer > rumor/gossip > knowing her name > leads to other info]
# Guessing her sign [inappropriate/rude]
# She caught me looking in her way [hinted her I'm interested, she can tell]
# Stumble across but pretend nothing happen [she knew I'm interested, she tries to 'test' me out]
# Contact thru FB but ignore my request [i'm still a stranger, she doesn't want me to poke my head into her space]
# Cafeteria incident [spotted me first, she's still testing me]
# Caught her glancing at me when I'm unaware [maybe monitoring me]
# Caught her observing me when I'm with girls [maybe monitoring me]
# Male colleagues flirting with her but she look in my way when I passby [test my reaction]
# Peep and/or hold her look after I admit I'm looking at her [behavior change from not looking to looking back]
# Shy, nervous and stunned when I approach her but facing me and reply politely [something definitely going on here]
# She does read my text [if she's not interested why bother reading]
# Stumble across her again but she look in my way [maybe she's getting comfortable]
# Flower delivery and open up my feelings [inappropriate and sudden, maybe she freak out or happy]

My opinion might be wrong. But that's what I think based on my own culture? Definitely need to hear more opinion from you all. Thank you
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Posted by shellshocker

It can freak a Cancer gal out to get that much attention, that soon. Probably suspicious of your motives.



This is sooooo true......maintain the mystery a bit. When u act too aggressive and too sweet it makes us wonder your true motives.

Just go by her pace but still show interest. We are not gonna just open up like that & u being so peristent is not considering her a bit cuz we are caught up in or shells.

Just be cool dude!
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Hi Sophs, welcome. You seem calm. 🙂 And yes, I noticed that I'm moving too fast after some wonderful lessons from the helpful crabs here. 😄 I've taken the advice to cool it. Not intentionally but somehow I've overdoing it. 😢

It's day 4 I'm ignoring her. When she's around, I just keep my sight on the floor and walk away. I know she can feel it when I'm coming and she did brush her hair a little bit. Other time she did try to peek a little bit. Hmm...
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Posted by cancersunleomoon123


i have no air in my chart. admittedly i do have a lot of fire though. my mercury is leo. i often confuse people and contraditct myself. hmm.



Don't worry too much, leomoon. This is because you are water sign but got lots of fire in there. That's why you and others felt that way - contradiction. Well, that doesn't mean all bad news. I'm no expert in astrology but you seems to understand yourself. Maybe you should tone down a little bit of your pride. 🙂 Still, like I said, you are different but not in a bad way. Don't you feel proud to be special? 😄
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Hi leomoon, I'm still thinking of what questions to ask you. Though you're the 2nd, your Fire influences definitely helps you to express yourself in rather direct manner. Probably this confuse you why she ain't responding at all?

Tell me what you think about the highlights I've posted. And has been day 5 I'm ignoring her, and she's like pissed or something. She's turning her back on me now when she feels I'm around. Though she did try to look at me when she thinks I'm not looking. Does that mean anything bad to you?

Honestly, I have been reading all the comments over and over again. But not a clue that really speaks for her respond. That's the most confusing part.

Facts
* I'm aggressive
* I'm suspicious/creepy motives
* I'm a stranger
* Most crabs hate the phone and text

Responds that show she's not interested
* Not responding texts/calls
* Ignoring
* Not reciprocate attention

Her responds as pointed out certainly valid to say she's not interested but still not convincing enough. But if we look at the facts, that everyone agrees, could possibly mean something we have overlooked? Which explains why she's not responding? I mean 10 texts, 3 calls and 1 bouquet of flowers within a month can certainly get her attention but trust. I don't think she'd wants to go any further until she really knows me. Like I said, I'm a creepy stranger that never had a conversation with her before. Starting off as a friend would more likely help in this situation.

Try viewing from the "facts" perspective. Does it explain why she ain't responding now? Certainly need all your views now. Thank you.
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Posted by hades
Tell me what you think about the highlights I've posted. And has been day 5 I'm ignoring her, and she's like pissed or something. She's turning her back on me now when she feels I'm around. Though she did try to look at me when she thinks I'm not looking. Does that mean anything bad to you?
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this story just keeps getting crazier. Of course she's pissed... you are ignoring her.

What I'd like to know is how you plan on striking up this friendship? You're going to have to talk to her eventually, now aren't you? What's wrong with starting with "Hello?"
Hell... take it to the next level and throw in a "How are you?''

If it's genuine, and you want to show you are interested in her well being, it will be enough for her. But for heaven's sake DON'T script it. Get over the game plan and just be human about it!

You're odd. It's not like it's a bad thing... but it could go either way.
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Posted by shellshocker


What I'd like to know is how you plan on striking up this friendship? You're going to have to talk to her eventually, now aren't you? What's wrong with starting with "Hello?"
Hell... take it to the next level and throw in a "How are you?''

If it's genuine, and you want to show you are interested in her well being, it will be enough for her. But for heaven's sake DON'T script it. Get over the game plan and just be human about it!

You're odd. It's not like it's a bad thing... but it could go either way.



*gulp* Now Shell is pissed.... and I'm outta here... yikes!

Okay okay, stay cool. Umm, it's my bad for ignoring her.. I'll walk up and say hello tomorrow unless I'm super busy. Right, no script even it sounds awkward. We're busy today, but we had an eye contact, a pleasant one. And unless I'm wrong, I feel that she's delighted. I'm not really in a game plan though, just a little lost between 'Am I bothering her' and 'She's okay with the attention'. I'll just have to pray that she's not as nervous as the first time when I approach her again. Finger crossed she'll be fine...

Thanks Shell for guiding me thru all these mess.. You're my best fren !! 😉 BTW, Happy Birthday to you and other crabs in here... if it's already over, Happy Belated Birthday !!