Materialistic

I don't know all the Cancers in the world, but know quite a few, including some family members and I was wondering if all you Cancers in here are really possessive of your material belongings. It's like other things, like feelings or people are expendable, but when it comes to your money, or the property you own, then the villianous side comes out. If someone tried to take something from you, would you go balistic, grab it and say that's mine, mine. Does anyone here see this quality in themselves, or is it just the Cancers living in my world?

The only creatures I have ever witnessed about this quality were those "seagulls" in "NEMO".

Mine, mine, mine, mine??.!

Hmmm certain things have sentimental value I guess. Like old clothes and toys from when you were a kid.
I know some people give toys to charity and stuff but I never could. I always thought that whoever got it would never love it and appreciate it enough. I know thats dumb but I can't help it. I tend to give inanimate objects personalities too which doesn't help.
I dunno if all cancerians are like that but I am.Its just cause of the emotions and memories I attach to things I guess.

Well, I can certainly understand that CancerKitten, but the ones I know carry it much further than that. Stuff like, for example: My newphew lived with roommates and he would use toilet paper, mayo, salt - just anything he wanted, even if he didn't buy it. Then one day, went off his rocker because someone else in the house used some of his Italian salad dressing. I mean, he threw such a fit about this that the police has to be called to calm him down. And his whole logic behind the episode was because HE paid for that dressing and it was HIS. Things that are mementos are different. I'm not talking about those things. Another Cancer I know (my brother) had a roommate living with him years ago and when that person went to move out, my brother wouldn't let him take any of his stuff. My brother's reasoning was, it was his house, so everything in it is his. And every Cancer I know will cry how poor they are and they are so broke and keep going until you give them money, or pay for stuff for them. And then you find out, all along, they had a wad of money in their pocket. Those are the things I'm referring to. Do you see yourself doing this?

Actually I usually end up lending people money and not getting it back. If my parents ever give me money I do intend to give it back but then usually forget and it gets to a point where you think.Ok its been months now theres no point in giving it back. But I hardly ever borrow from other people unless its just a little bit that I desperately need.
However the friend who always claims to have no money and doesn't pay me back is also a cancerian....but she is also useless with money. She seems to think that if she has money in her bank account the world will implode so she spends it all straight away.

"And every Cancer I know will cry how poor they are and they are so broke and keep going until you give them money, or pay for stuff for them. And then you find out, all along, they had a wad of money in their pocket."

LMAO...I have been caught! I do that so much that it's not funny! Actually it's usually the case if I am low on cash I'll just mention it and the person feels bad so they give me $ $ $ . I only do that to boys I don't really like that much. I guess Karma's biting me in the @ss!

The point about being possessive, I don't mind sharing with people as long as you are grateful...The minute I feel used (which happens alot) I will cut you off faster than you could ever think and I WONT be mad about it. I bet with the first brother there was something else (besides the dressing) that bothering him or that other person had done something foul to him in the past.

I am a pack-rat though...My Scorpio friend is always like "Would you throw that away!"
LOL I'm like NOOOOOOO!

Cancerlady

I meant I won't be nice about cutting you off...My brain is still with the Vodka bottle I have at home.

P-Angel - I think your brother was maybe a bit extreme in not letting his roommate take his things when he left! I'm a materialistic in a sense. I hate people messing with things that I spend alot of money on . . . for example my brother wanted to look up directions on mapquest and I wouldn't let him use my laptop, instead I got up off the couch and did it for him. I know my bother was fully capable of looking up something on the internet, but touching my s*% t is a no no!

clvzl

I think the money thing is the worse part for Cancer's. I've read before about how people should hook up with the sun sign that's in the complete opposite position, which in this case is Cap. Cappie's are so financially oriented. They are usually successful and make tons of money. Don't do anything without some sort of financial gain. So, this makes sense to me. If Cappies have all the money and Cancer's want to hoard the money - what a perfect match!

Cancers are very possessive about their personal belongings. Be it in cash, kind or person. My cancer husband is so possessive about us(me & our son), house and everything in it that anyone whoever messes around with that will have it coming.

I personally think Scorpios are best for cancers. Atleast the male cancers. Scorpios can tolerate sexual impotency, but never emotional impotency. Cancers are emotionally potent & sexually too.They alone can match the Scorpio emotional depth.

You could be right 19Eleven - well, since you're Scorp married to a Cancer, I guess you would know that better than anyone. Talking about the emotional part, I can see that because Cancer's are so deep and so CRAVING to have someone live and breathe them in that nothing else matters to them (except their personal belongings, he he). And Scorpio fits that bill.

Talking about this, I want to ask you something, or tell you something, I'm not sure if this is a question or not - but, something that I've noticed Scorpio do consistantly in relationships and it drives me nuts. My son is Scorp, he'll be 24 this year and every single girlfriend he's had, he's been this way. It ticks me off, he drives the women away, pretty much infuriates everybody around him and I don't understand how Scorpio's are so blind to this. I know that Scorpio's are very defensive, so please don't get angry, I just want to understand why, where it comes from, you know what I mean? A Scorpio will be a complete idiot over passion. If there is something that THEY feel is the world, then they will do anything to defend that person, or thing - it doesn't matter what it is. I understand that people should defend what they believe in, I'm not meaning that. It's just that they carry it to extremes - to the point of being totally ridiculous. People look at them like they're complete fools and they don't care. How can you not care? If they love someone and that other person tells an outright lie and everybody in the room knows it's lie, yet here's the Scorpio defending that person and the Scorpio thinks that they are these big proud people - look at me, I know how to defend my woman - but, are completely ignorant to the fact that people aren't looking at them like they have anything to be proud of, instead the people are looking at them like they are fools - but Scorpio can't see this. How can you not see it? Then, later, if the relationship fails - which it usually does because tough love is just as important as easy love - then they will admit where they went wrong, just to do it again in the next relationship. Can you shed some light on this? I'm only trying to comprehend where this comes from.

I've noticed this same quality in Aries, too. So, don't think I'm picking on you.

If you put someone up on a pedalstool and believe them to be perfect - then you are setting yourself up to fail.

I just can't see this, I don't get it.

You don't want to touch that one, huh? That's ok, I understand.

P-angel I was asnwering another post. I will definitely get back to you on this one. I am on my way back home from work.Scorpios actually loose control over themselves when in love. Rest later.

I know a Scorpio who cheated on his woman all the time......but when somebody told him something about her he behaved so loyal.......I don't get it

So how can you lose yourself in love and cheat too

If your needs are not being fulfilled by that person...I think it is quite possible to be completely in love with someone and cheat.

I'm not sure, Softy. Hopefully, when she gets home, she'll come back on and elaborate. I know my son's like that. For instance, his woman is a complete and total mess. The house is a pig-sty, and that's ok, I'm not the cleanest person in the world, so I'm not critisizing - I'm just using this as an example. She tells people that she's a clean freak and her house is spotless and she'll say this in front of people who know different. We've been to their house, we know that the garbage is piled to the ceiling and maggots crawling around - yet, she'll say it (because she knows he'll confirm it, defend it, therefore she can ignore her flaw) and he'll back her up on it and then proceed to talk about how wonderful she is about keeping house. She stands there like a Prima Donna and finds redemption in her own guilt. I just have a hard time with this. Maybe because I've been married to a Virgo for so long and we all know how critical they can be.

It's funny, when this happens, my Virgo husband stands there listening and sometimes I can actually see him clamping down on his tongue so he won't start barking his disdain.

I'd just like to say cancers can be giving in materialistic things as well.Haven't meet one yet who hasen't seen through my front at certain times that I try to act like there isn't anything wrong finacially and have helped me out material wise.But then again they also know im good for repaying the favor.

And to answer your scorpio question at least for me is I suck at wording things so I mean this and people turn it into the complete opposite.And most of the time the masses are the asses who are generally always wrong;proven time and again.Ya know,if there's a puppy who everyone else is poking with sticks would you be one to jump in and join or would you defend it even if it meant your own defeat.Playing mob is the biggest downfall of mankind.When you play mob it's a mistake and you have to ask questions before you act it's been proven time and again throughout history.

As far as your son goes however thats over emotion.

I remember myself when I was about 3-5 years old. My father has brought me a puzzle toy which was sort of LEGO's today. Damn. No one was able even touch it. I was yelling fighting and shouting at everyone who ever dared to even pick on it (and remember, I was only 3-5 years old). I was definetly extremly possesive about it. I'm stil much like that person. So, all in all, yes, I am extremly possessive person.

Emotional denial in case the other post didn't enough info.

P-angel I couldn't login to dxpnet untill now. Tiamat has shed some light regarding your question. I do understand where your son comes from. I do agree what you have described about him is a bit extreme. But scorpios love to challenge theirs and everybody elses limits. They have a sense of ridiculous. Lot of time their sense of humour too sucks. For others. But we know we are right.Like Tiamat says it is those damn masses who are on the wrong.

I would say you ignore how other people react to him. It maybe difficult. But for all you know your son must be testing everybody including you and above all his ideas. Donot ever show him that his behaviour embarases or annoys you.They do tend to get silly over passion. But they learn. I can tell you about the inner workings of a scorpio by how my twin brother and me are.It can get down right erie.

My brother is a Physician. You would think that he would have a glam gal hanging on his arm or another medico. No. His GF is just something close to your son's GF. Filthy. And worse. She has nits in her hair and down there. I knew about the nits in the hair. I pointed this out to my brother. His reply was that being a physician he is pretty much aware that nits are as harmless as the unseen unicellular creatures on anyones body. Besides he said there is something extremely sexy about a woman with nits. As she scratches her hair her eyes lights up with lust.Well. Now the private stuff. This was told to one of my ex-BF ( who was also a cancerian). He loves to help her to remove those creatures from there. When she screams with pleasure, he gets a mind blowing errr you know what I mean. Now this is the extreme example. But you know how exreme and ridiculous they can get.Nobody but their inner self will tell them when to get outof it. They are finding extreme excitement in this.

Now as for me. I had a Piscean BF. Who was well yum yum yum. One day I told him that I would like to have a passionate night with him next to the grave of a man whom I had massive crush on when I was 14. Guess what? He left me. I called him up. He got hysterical. I tried to calm him down saying that I have yet to discuss the most exciting part of my fantasy. I want to dig a 6x2x3 ditch and pretend it is a grave and make love there. He freaked out. Asked if next someone is going to be asked to bury us alive when we are busy. I said if that is his fear then the ditch will be only one feet deep. He hung up on me.

Then my next BF was a highly cranky cancerian. He was so energetic. I suggested that I want to become lady Dracula for a night and bite him hard enough. I wouldnot have done it literally as I know that would put him off. He thought I was venting my frustration caused by oncoming examinations, on him. He too left.

Now my darling husband a very positive cancerian. He heard about my fantasies and got very excited and proposed me. Har Har har.

Got to go. Hope you know, what others find ridiculous and annoying could actually be the inner devil of every human which they suppress it for ever. But scorpios dont.

Yes 19Eleven - everything you said above, I have seen in Scorpio's - that was the whole point of the question. However, it only instills what I already knew to be a huge flaw in the character.

I guess I see it this way (and that's not to say that I can't see another angle on this, for I am always looking at different levels, that's why I asked these questions): Though love is very important in any and all relationships. We look to the people we trust and respect (mainly family members, close friends and partners) to point out our mistakes. If we are always protected from our errors and made to believe that whatever we do is RIGHT - then that is a hindrence to our growth as a person. In what you believe (meaning just your sign of course, not personally) is helping your partner, or child, or whoever it is your defending "against the masses", is actually hurting them in the long haul because we only learn from our mistakes. But, if we're led to believe that we don't make any mistakes - where is the growth in that? An example of this would be one of my sister-in-laws, her teenage son is constantly getting in trouble. He steals, lies, skips school - and no matter what he does, she sticks up for him and tells him that's it's ok, that it wasn't his fault - and in so doing, is destroying his future by developing him into a sociopath. This is an extreme, but, the same principal applies. To hide behind, well that's just the way it is and to say that everybody else must be wrong is a pretty narrow slant on a full self-examination of your deeds.

I am now leaning towards believing that maybe I have it all wrong and will need to sit back and re-evaluate this because as I think about this, I'm starting to think that it's all about power. It matters not what kind of support, nurturing, or care that is given to the partner for the purpose of becoming a more valueable and productive part of our society. It's just about the need of having that other person look up to you and admire you, just for the sake of being #1 to that person. Isn't that just vanity? Does it matter if the other person REALLY loves you and respects you? Is the main objective only to have superiority?

19Eleven, I'm not talking about you personally. Actually, when I think about Scorpio's, I usually have my son on my mind and thinking about him and his actions, reactions and responses. I am always seeking out the how's, why's and where's of things. Sometimes, I may come across as though I'm trying to be combatitive, but, that's not the case, really. I just like to think things out from different perspectives and views and since I don't know how other people would look at something, I have to ask.

Peace

19eleven- Where did you get your name by the way?

"Besides he said there is something extremely sexy about a woman with nits."

I think it makes sense that he would overlook the lice because he is a doctor. He knows more about the actual effect of lice as opposed to the stigma that society places on the proble. Still this statement is a little weird.

P-Angel...I never really got what your son does that is so infuriating. I mean you said he drives people away, but specifically?

Cancerlady

C-Lady,

He has this thing about him that drives me crazy (my father and brother are also Scorpio's, however, they aren't quite as bad, though, the trait is still there), and I was trying to understand.

When he feels for somebody, like a friend, g/f, or even a thing - he will defend it to the point of being foolish, just for the sake of honor. Which, in itself, is a good thing. However, Scorpio's carry it to the extreme. I mean, if someone he thinks he's protecting says that someone is white - when everyone can clearly see it's black, he'll stand up and fight for his friends claim that it's white. If someone in the room says anything to the contrary, he'll stand and defend. It matters not to him how stupid he looks and then wonders why he's friends are superficial. I just don't get it. I mean, I understand protecting someone, I do - but, if someone is wrong, even your friends - then, by defending them is not honorable. But, you know me - what's wrong is wrong & what's right is right - there is no gray area. My own flaws shinning through, I realize - but, I still have to inquire or all my brains will pop out of my head. lol

Oh, so that was it?

You are right...my sister does this all the time LOL. The positive side to this is that if you are EVER in need and a Scorpio REALLY cares for you...They will give you the shirt off their back even if it means them suffering. That type of loyalty is rare but alot of people take advantage of it. Once the Scorp figures it out though...if your intentions are not true and good...

OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

It's like a combination of extremes! I think with age he might be able to realize to pick his battles.

CL

Yeah, my brother was much worse when he was younger than he is now about this very thing. So, age could possible help him. But, until then . . .

Off with everybody's head, is his motto . . .

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lol

cancerladys right at least for me.i would consider the gf or whatever to be taking advantage of me.

Oh yeah and I think those things maybe called iron maidens seem like they would be much more fun.

And actually I have sag rising so im too honest(hurts people) sometimes so I also see your point when it comes to some scorpios as well.

Cancerlady my nick means 19 November. My Birthday.

P-angel. I get that you have your son, the scorpio, in mind. I understand all the concerns that you have stated. I would say a huge NO to anybodys mistake. The idea is to focus on pulling up the person for their mistakes without rejecting them. I would do everything in my power to draw attention of anyone close to me towards their mistakes. At the same time I would not pay attention if people are laughing at them. Because I am myself very thick skinned. Insults roll right off my back.

Scorpios have their priorities. Their power of listening, comprehending and accepting depends on those listed priorities.I would call that total personal integrity. Be sure, they select people who suit their personal goals. They are totally receptive to this inner circle. I do stand up for my loved ones in public. But in private I do the needful to make them realise their mistakes.

May I know what your son is doing? Is he working or a student?

He's married, 2 kids and a job (if you can call it that). He doesn't like to work, he thinks the whole world should be at his beck-in-call. You really grossed me out with the lice story, btw. That's just disgusting having all those critters crawling around. I'm itching just sitting here thinking about it.

My son has lived a long time with me and knows that he can't pull his crap on me. I'll say something - as everyone around realizes once they get to know me, if someone is f..ing up, I'll be the first person to point this out. So, when he does stuff like what I mentioned, he always looks around the room to see if I'm there. No matter how old your kid gets - mum is still in charge! I may complain about him sometimes, but I love him to death. And, the dear boy, will point stuff out to me too. We have an excellent line of communication. He learned long ago to keep his stinger away from me, but I can see it with the other people around him.

He has tons of good qualities too, one of them is not "ambition", which seems to be out of character for his sign. Every other Scorpio I know is very ambitious, they are always thinking and working towards their goals. His only goal is beating the current video game.

LMAO P Angel

OOOOHHHH Okay 11/19 or 19/11