I really want to know. i love this guy but he seems so tight with money. we have have been dating almost 2 years and every time we go out to eat we go dutch. He doesn't really buy me anything either.
Sometimes he makes dinner at his place (visa versa) but thats it.
I asked him about taking me out and he said that he went out on a lot of dates and bought and he felt like he was getting ripped off so that is the reason he doesn't pay for dinner. I think its lame.
any cancer guys that can help me out here? Should i just leave him? I feel offended that he doesn't do this for me or maybe i have been spoiled by other guys. I don't know, I am trying to be open minded.
Sinder, JUST IN MY OPINION---If he has been going out with you for two years and won't pay for anything he is probably looking at your relationship as a friends with benefits type thing. He doesn't feel like he HAS to pay. You have set the tone of the relationship with him and since you have went this long without him having to do anything, he doesn't want to.
it helps put things in persective to hear others thoughts. I feel like i have been in bubble in this relationship for a while and i am understanding to a fault sometimes.
for the record.i am not a tightwad and i buy him dinner etc.......like i just brought some chinese take out and dessert and he didn't even say thanks.
i think i have indeed, spoiled him to some degree.
how do i change this behaviour? any suggestion and insider tips you want to share from the guys secret vault of girl manipulation tactics?
you asked good questions.........here is my response.........
But is he a good boyfriend otherwise? He is good when we are not in a disagreement (see cancers&sex topic for more details😉 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Is he there for you emotionally? For the most part
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does he have a good sense of humor? I think he is funny, he is very intellectual and has an off the wall sense of humor
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Does he respect you and get along with the other people in your life? He seems to respect me otherwise. he doesn't like my sister and my sister thinks hes weird, unfortunately, my parents passed away young, i would have liked their thoughts on him.
------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does he work hard and want a life with you? He is a very hard worker. when i ask if he wants to get married one day he just says i don;t know.
In a nutshell, i have mixed feeling now and am confused because we have been together for 2 years. I feel like we should move to the next level. I feel like a hamster running and running in circle in a wheel. it doesn't seem like we are progressing and i just want to know where we stand. I could handle the dutch thing better if i know that we will have a future. i am not used to this.
I have been with a Cancer for almost 2 years as well and in the beginning he was very cautious about spending. However, I am very independent so it didn't bother me so much. If I bought dinner I would buy wine, sparkling water etc... if he bought dinner he would not be so generous. After talking with him and getting to know him, he expressed that he was more generous in past relationships and found that the women took advantage of him, so therefore, he tries not to repeat his mistakes.
Cancers will invest into those that invest into them. I don't keep score with my Cancer, if I see he needs something I will buy it for him. That has paid off because he is now very different with me. We go out and he tells me... "buy anything you want... wine, steak... dessert."
All women feel good when a man spends on them. However, not all men are the same. I don't find Cancers to be cheap, they will spend and they will buy very nice things, although they are very careful, but if they were used and hurt before, trust me, you will pay for what that other person did to them.
Cancers are looking for the long run. Other men woo women for the moment just to get them in bed. They know what women like so they will spend and spend just to get what they want from the woman. But after they get it, they're out, leaving the woman hurt and confused.
Although, men are men and signs have more to do with it, most Cancer's will not woo you if they aren't really interested in you. But just because they are being slow, doesn't mean that they aren't interested either, maybe they have their eye on other ventures for the future, that they feel their money would be better invested into.
he does do the laundry when i am there. he does cook and he is into healthy foods....
i mean an example of what i call cheap is that he went to the and said they had a great price on large bottles of honey. like 10 bucks and I said i would like one so he gets me one.
in the meantime he asked me to paint something for him and i bought the supplies which were like 25 bucks. i never mentioned it because i want to something nice. when i was leaving to take the honey home he says "where is my 10 bucks?"
I am thinking to myself "you must be kidding me" but he was serious!
Everybody is different with money... some people just expect you to hold your own, because they work hard for their money and if you work they don't see the reason why you can't get your own.
You should try a Capricorn... they are good providors...
i hope things work out for you two, sounds like something that could be long term in the right time.............
well, as far as a biz partner is concerned he always rips on me about money since i leave it laying around. he jokes around as says he like to do my laundry because he finds so much money falling out of my pockets that he started an account.
the thing is, is that he is probably serious and had my money in an account. he is that cheap with me that i think he did it, i swear...........
"so maybe.....he really likes me because he has not wooed me and used me?"
Sinder only you can answer that question, because maybe he makes up for his "cheapness" in other ways. Take a good look at other things that he does that makes you feel happy. Obviously for you to be with him for 2 years there is more to him than him not spending.
"I fell like i am his buddy sometimes more than his girlfriend"
LOL... Cancers are like this. They can move slow in a relationship.
"But more importanly, do YOU want to marry HIM? Is he doing other things that make you doubt his committment to you? What is the next level for you? Moving in together? Getting engaged?"
Very good questions from fircraker... Try to look beyond the spending part and look at the things that will determine a future with him. Money comes and goes... it can be worked around.
I am going to really think about this. this relationship may not make it until christmas.
come to think of it i bought him so many things for christmas and all he got me was a pencil pouch and with himI bought him a sweater, shirts, sweatsuit, cologne, a coffeemaker, specialty coffee and candy and a bunch of stocking stuffers. I had a brandnew microwave in my truck that matched the coffeemaker and was going to bring it in last and when i saw all he gave me was a pencil pouch and paper i decided that i didnt want to bring it in. so i use it now and he doesn't know it was suppose to be a gift. everytime i use i think of his cheapness.
Well it is his choice by going dutch. She doesn't volunteering pay for dinner, this is what bothers her, she wish he would pay more, she wants him to step up but he isn't. So the only reason he can feel less of a man is because he chooses to be less of a man, not that she makes him feel that.
Everybody is different and every financial situation is different, not every man can buy a woman dinner at some fancy retaurant every night. That's why the other things he does for her counts more than being cheap.
ms pisces----i think pisces women need to feel cared for. i feel that all the time. I think if he paid for things (he has a great job) it would make me feel more secure, instead it is like freinds.
Thank you Firefly... the things we do can move people and that's when we would get the response that we want from them. Alot of people don't look at life like this... they feel that just because they are the woman the man needs to do for them. We are all human and we all want to be loved and considered.
Ms. P and that's all good... you are not wrong for feeling this way... but men operate differently. Just because he is not spending doesn't mean he doesn't truley care.
"Well it is his choice by going dutch. She doesn't volunteering pay for dinner, this is what bothers her, she wish he would pay more, she wants him to step up but he isn't. So the only reason he can feel less of a man is because he chooses to be less of a man, not that she makes him feel that.
Everybody is different and every financial situation is different, not every man can buy a woman dinner at some fancy retaurant every night. That's why the other things he does for her counts more than being cheap."
This post was for you because I was responding to you but someone posted under you before I did.
Dinner is no exception... a man could be buying you dinner and picking up the tab every night... but in your heart you know that is what he does for other women too and deep down it is not his way of showing love.
Find you a Cap man or a man who is a stronger provider to take you out and cherish you if that is what you want. Cancer men WILL take you out on dates and pay for the date and give you things you need and want too! Right now your time frame may be different from his in terms of commitment.
You admitted that you are traditional so that's why you look at things differently when it comes to the expectations of a man and that's all good because that's you, and it does not make you wrong for thinking that "men" should be "men".
But realistaly, other factors could play a role in one's life as to why they don't spend as much. Maybe they are saving for a house or something. But on the other hand, if a man DEMANDS for a woman to be buying him dinner all the time, that is just wrong, because he is using her. But if he prefers to cook than to go out and eat... I think you can let him off easy.
"Find you a Cap man or a man who is a stronger provider to take you out and cherish you if that is what you want. Cancer men WILL take you out on dates and pay for the date and give you things you need and want too! Right now your time frame may be different from his in terms of commitment."
Sinder...I agree... I told you that in the beginning... get a Capricorn man. They will lavish you the way you want. Cancers take time.
Sinder baby girl the choice is yours... step if you don't feel like this is the man for you and he's not treating you the way you deserve. Stay if you feel that there is more to him. Like everyone said... you don't seem happy... so why stay?
as of now, i have spoken to him and I told him i am very unhappy about the photography thing and never taking me out. I told him i just want to be freinds. he said ok, i will call you after work. that is where it all is right now.
i am sad about wasting 2 years of my life, thats for sure.
Just in my opinion and please don't take it personal. Right now, you are acting like his friend in a way. Women are givers for sure but you cannot give a LOT to your man. You are pushing out masculine ENERGY and you are not the man in this relationship, your Cancer man is the man.
Right now, he is aware that you are doing things to keep the relationship rolling because he is aware that you want more from him. So, the more he is pulling back and holding back on you, the more you are trying to push things along so you can get to the point you want to be at with him.
Drop the ball! Be yourself, don't put out anymore energy, esp if he is looking a porn. This man you are seeing feels feeds off of having power over you and you are giving him WAY to much power over you and your feelings.
If he is not buying on you or spending on you way more than you are giving to him, then STOP! Stop putting out your energy and expressing your terms about how you want the relationship to be and just enjoy him in the moments that you share with him. If you quit doing masculine things to move the relationship forward and just drop everything and WALK away from the things that don't make you happy, he will pick up the ball.
Don't give him ultimatums, serious talks or any of that show him with your actions that if he is not moving things forward then he will lose you and mean it. Right now he is just talking and telling you things you want to hear. Don't accept sweet talk from him. Find other things that you are interested in and cut out some of your available time with him. Make him earn your love, I bet you are a beautiful woman and you deserve to be treated like a Queen. You man can treat you better than what he is doing right now.
as i continue to say brotha. carnival down here in trini is feb 25th so u better book ur flight, early LADY_TAurus. and as cancers for being cheap we could be at times u have to remember if you cant afford it we at least still try to get you something ,cant hang your hat where u cant reach. We do splurge when we see it fit. Generalising a sign regarding cheapness kinda bleh,lol.
Carnival we comin! "What happens in the party stays in the party"... You stay in Trinidad Black?
"as cancers for being cheap we could be at times u have to remember if you cant afford it we at least still try to get you something ,cant hang your hat where u cant reach."
Exactly... that is what I have been trying to say on here... man or no man... if his financial situation is not right he can't splurge all the time... doesn't make him less of a man and it doesn't mean he doesn't love the woman.
In a brief conversation, a man asked a woman he was pursuing the question......
"What kind of man are you looking for?"
She sat quietly for a moment before looking him in the eye and asking.
"Do you really want to know?"
Reluctantly, he said, "Yes."
She began to expound... As a woman in this day and age, I am in a position to ask a man what he can do for me that I can't do for myself. I pay my own bills. I take care of my household without the help of any man. I am in the position to ask, "What can you bring to the table?"
The man looked at her. Clearly he thought that she was referring to money.
She quickly corrected his thought and stated, "I am not referring to money. I need something more." I need a man who is striving for perfection in every aspect of life." He sat back in his chair, folded his arms, and asked her to explain.
She said, " I am looking for someone who is striving for perfection mentally because I need conversation and mental stimulation. I don't need a simple-minded man. I am looking for someone who is striving for perfection spiritually because I don't need to be unequally yoked... believers mixed with unbelievers is a recipe for disaster. I need a man who is striving for perfection financially because I don't need a financial burden., I need a man that can hold his own. I am looking for someone who is sensitive enough to understand what I go through as a woman, but strong enough to keep me grounded. I am looking for someone who I can respect. In order to be submissive, I must respect him. I cannot be submissive to a man who isn't taking care of his business. I have no problem being submissive...he just has to be worthy. God made woman to be a helpmate for man. I can't help a man if he can't help himself.?
When she finished her spill, she looked at him. He sat there with a puzzled look on his face.
I like what you have written here. it is making sense to me. it is easy to get caught up in an emotional relationship and not really realize what you are doing to cause the other to react a certain way.
the whole masculine concept was very interesting.........I am being like that and that is not me. I am expending energy for two people.
I am getting tired and confused and thats why i put this out there. I do love this guy but as of late, i am not happy with the way he is treating me. but as you said he may be reacting to my masculine vibe and its coming back at me.
I think i will chill out over this. I just wanted to find i where i stood with this guy since i was planning on some major changes and it would include him and effect my plans if we are to be together but at this point. I have no expectations. I am only going to look in terms of me and only me and if he will be around I would like that but if not then i just will have to deal with it.
i couldn't agree more on what LT said... well i could relate to that because from my own experience..Pisces do tend to give more and more and expect things in return.. but the thing is... sometimes you dont need to give more than you could because you own that to yourself.. somehow you need to stop giving and listen more to yourself.
Sinder, I think your guy is not ready to move to the next level in your relationship. You said you have spoiled him and doesn't even say thank you. I think you should have a discussion about where you alls relationship is going. Because from what your saying it seems like a friends with benefits set up. That's just me. I'm a pisces too with a cancer man. 🙂
Lost/Firefly are right. Make yourself happy... listen to you... do you! You can't make anyone happy unless you are and no one can make you as happy as you make yourself. The answer lies within you. 😉
Black... what you talkin' bout! Man... wining is all we carib people do... you know that... I have a bad piece a wine too 😉 You got to make it to Cayman one of these days... when we gals brok out inna de club the whole place shut down 🙂
PArty animal party animal no sleeep at all ooo oooo oh gorsh .. Hmm i really hope u can throw dat waist cause i'm really flexible lady T. U thickish or slim goody.lol. Where sweet fatale? laaaawd u taurus women weaken my loins,lol. And i think two of them(taurus) are hittin on me,lol. Weird. But anyways if u dont lke the"cheapness" and prefer to spoilt with richness then bounce. If u have or had high expectations no matter what sign on being treated with jewellery ,dinner , flowers(well i hope at least he sent u flowers) on a dialy or weekly basis then you looking for mr rich. BUt the decision is urs and urs alone. All we can give is our experiences and relay it. On that note i am going to eat ,i am very very hungry from working and travelling a long ass distance and i have to cook, THANK GOD I CAN COOK.
Sweets is back!!!... she's on the "Cancer and calling" board.
You know you Cancer guys can't resist us Taurus women. We look all reserved and quiet when you first meet us... but when we get to know you.. we bring the fire. When we turn up the heat all you poor little crabbies can do is bawl and ask for more 😉 I loves Cancers... my Cancer has dedicated that song by Akon "Dangerous" for me.... he be singing it all the time "that girl is so dangerous... that girl is a bad girl."
When I dance I fling it... you gots to be good to keep up with me Black 🙂
"you looking for mr rich"
Tru dat Black... some of these women's expectations are just too high and they can't seem to look beyond material things. That big house, expensive car, shopping sprees, nightly dinners... whatever it may be... won't mean anything if you have a man that is not there, who can't connect with you, can't be faithful, doesn't love you and doesn't share your values. Pointless!
LT - YOU ARE A MESS!LMAO! Details when you get back from Trinidad! K?
Sinder, Try talking to him and tell him that you're feeling neglected and need to go out & etc. I did with my current Cancer friend and he understood, aplogized and admitted that he has been pre-occupied with some issues (hence his moodiness). While I understand you needing attention and not wanting to pay for everything; CANCERs tend to express their care and love in more practical ways than you would expect. For example:
I have a very good CANCER friend of 15 years and he does it all. His wife is only works part time and he still helps with laundry/cleaning and pays most of the bills. He complains at times, but he does take care of her and home. But they're married - maybe we don't see the full benefits of being with a CANCER MAN until you're married. LOL!
Sometimes he makes dinner at his place (visa versa) but thats it.
I asked him about taking me out and he said that he went out on a lot of dates and bought and he felt like he was getting ripped off so that is the reason he doesn't pay for dinner. I think its lame.
any cancer guys that can help me out here? Should i just leave him? I feel offended that he doesn't do this for me or maybe i have been spoiled by other guys. I don't know, I am trying to be open minded.