Cappy Sun with venus in Aqua

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Hey, anyone here has this placement for Venus? How do you feel when you are dating? Sometimes i can't even know what i want or what i am doing and why? Even with the Cappy sun, i many times need to do a reality check about my intentions and feelings. I can't understand what i feel, sometimes my feeling suddenly completely disappearing.

It doesn't make me happy, and i know probably it's very hard for thos too who are on the receiving end. I can't expect for my partners to solve this. So let's share expereinces, OK?

Anyone who has Cappy Sun + Aqua Venus, or have relatinship with people who has this placement, please write! I really like to read others opinion, so i may deal with myself better in my relationships.

Thank you!
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Hey, anyone here has this placement for Venus?

*Raises hand* I do 😄


How do you feel when you are dating? Sometimes i can't even know what i want or what i am doing and why? Even with the Cappy sun, i many times need to do a reality check about my intentions and feelings. I can't understand what i feel, sometimes my feeling suddenly completely disappearing.

Oh honey ... we need to chat 😉

Yes, I've felt this way many times. And you know, it doesn't matter how long you've been with the person either, when those feelings fade and disappear, it's over and it's like OMG, what happened— And it's uncontrollable too. Also, I don't have feelings for anyone else, nor does another guy get my attention. The feelings are just fade and I don't feel the same anymore. To point out, I will say that this hasn't happened with everyone but with more than enough that I've noticed the same thing you've noticed.

It doesn't make me happy, and i know probably it's very hard for thos too who are on the receiving end. I can't expect for my partners to solve this. So let's share experiences, OK?

Oh it's damn awful for those on the receiving end. For the longest I blamed my feelings not sustaining on the fact that I was cheated on twice since I've been old enough to have a real relationship but that's not the case. Yes, I was hurt, but I got over it after a while but my feelings for people weren't really affected.

And you know it's funny, those of us with a Capricorn Sun and a Aquarius Venus can be the best girlfriend (or boyfriend) ever, however, it doesn't matter when it happens -- in a month, a year, 5 years, when ever -- it has NOTHING to do with wanting another person over the one you are with, it's just not wanting to be in the relationship anymore.

Yeah, it can be insane for sure.
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sometimes I don't know what I want. But at this point I think it mostly has to do with the risk involved. Like I could be single and be a totally happy cappy. If I let one lady into my life though... I want to make sure its what I really want. and I don't always know what I want.


My feelings don't ever disappear, sometimes I just choose not to date the person because I only feel sexual feelings for them and not anything else. As i'm getting older i'd like to have a more serioius connection to someone. Thats not to say I don't want a sexual relationship, there are just other factors I would like in a relationship.

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Cappysweetie:

Oh, yes. Please, we must talk.

Yes, i know the disappearing feelings, and same for me. My feelings not disappearing because i meet another guy. (I am actually always faithful, and have a strong never cheat rule.)

And yes, for the receiving end.... it hurts both of us. It's painful for me too. I have Libra Moon, i hate hurting others, and i also hate when i see that i can't give happiness to them. (And to myself.)

I know that my partner must be a very interesting person with lots of energy and creativity, i need the intellectual stimulation. But he doesn't has to be the brainy type. Just simply intelligent with a good spirit. (And good morals. My Sun requires that!)

Sometimes i feel, i am a bit bored by daing. Is it normal? it seems so fake to meet so many guys with the same purpose. I hope i can simply find somebody with who i get along well, or meeting him because of some same interest. So things doesn't start out as "dating", but goes very naturally, with spontaneity.

Can i ask what's your idea about a good relationship, about an ideal partner etc?
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Caprio:

Same here. Sex is important, but i simply don't even get excited by the thought of simply sleeping with somebody in whom i am not interested.
Yes there are other very important factors, like being able to have a good conversation, or having a great time not only as lovers, but as friends too.

Passion is very important for me, but without mutual understanding only passion is without a future, and the Cappy in me always thinks ahead.

Thank you for your answer!
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Oh, one more thing.

There is one thing i am really bad at. And i am not sure if it is because of the Venus in Aqua. Actually i can't play games in a relationship. Even if i want to do them, i don't know how, and can't even figure it out. It would be ok, but because of my naivety i also don't realise if i am being played or not.

Is this true for you guys too?

(Maybe i will make a thread how to play games. I think it would benefit me.)
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Very interesting...

I don't need an intellectual connection, I honestly don't even know what that means in relation to a romantic relationship. I do however need some sort of emotional connection. There is usually a vibe I get and that is what i'm attracted to.

I don't play games and I never have any idea if i'm being played (i've been played) I honestly have no reason to play games with a lady.

I have a scorp rising which I've been told overpowers a lot of my chart. So that may be why the disappearing feelings never happen for me.

I'm totally into passion, building it up, then pouncing when the right moment happens. Some ladies want everything too soon.



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Ellesque:

I think my mom a lot more lucky than you, because she also has Aqua Venus just like me. But it can be bad too, because she not really shows her emotions just for the sake of showing it. Many times i want to hug her, and she says 'Leave me so i can do my work!'.

Venus in Libra is not the opposite of Venus in Aquarius. Actually those two Venus signs should go along together greatly. At least according to Astrology.
What's your son's Moon sign and what is yours? Probably that has a very lot to say about expressing emotions.

If it is not very hurtful for you, please tell me what you mean by "speaking two completely different languages": I can imagine that, but in actuality how is it. WHat do you think is the difference between how you express Venus and how your son does the same?

Can you tell me more how is it on the receiving end. What makes you most mad, or insecure? I'd like to hear it, so if i may do similar things i can pay more attention in the future. Believe me, sometimes even when i want to understand what is going on with myself, it's not easy. Let's put our heads together. 🙂

I believe with good communication you and that man can have good future too! Without "sigh"s!
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Caprio:

Yes it's probably your Scorpio ascendant! That is very intense. (I only have one planet in water in my chart, so for me handling emotions are not always easy.) Probably that's why i was talking about intellectual stimulation instead of emotional stimulation. If i want to be very honest i don't quite get what emotional stimulation means. I am serious. How can someone do that?

For me intellectual stimulation is if we can have good, interesting conversation. If my boyfreind is witty, open to my ideas, and not saying "that's stupid", even if i say something crazy. A very open mind, with conservative values. A man with honor.

Intellectual stimulation when i see him, talk with him and want to hear more of his thoughts, and ideas. When he makes me imagine things. Almost as if it would play out as a dramascript. 😄 And very romantic. I like variety, but the Capricorn in me also wants safety. So i like to try out new thing, when i know i am completely safe with him, he would take care of me.

Emotions for me can be very intense. And dramatic. Sometimes the opposite. I don'T really know what to write about them, i am still figuring out myself. 🙂

To build up passion, and wait until the right time sounds great for me. If i should say this without being cheesy, that's real sexy to do, and that is something what would stimulate me. You know there are man man who can't wait, can build up things.
For me a man who know and have self-discipline to wait for the right time, more likely he enjoy doing this, is what i call intellectually stimulating. (Or maybe i am using the wrong words talking about the same thing as you? 🙂)
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Ellesque:

"@Flora (I really like your screen name)" - Thank you, my Libra Moon chose it! 😉

I don't know your son, but i think Scorpio Sun with Aries Moon probably a bit more intense or even dominating (even with Libra venus) then what he can handle with Pisces Sun and Libra Moon.

"venus libra expresses themselves thru love. we love to be loved. we live for the sake of love. our feelings and emotions are in 3-D and are always "on"."

"I see venus aqua as one dimensional, a compartmentalized kind of love, detached. you can turn
it on or off.....ours is always on, even if we are angry, hurt or sad. It never goes away."

I see this differently (but actually i don't know, i am not you - and it is very possible that your inner Scorpio is overpowering your Venus. If i see it well, you Moon and Venus sign is in an opposition, so that can cause stress to handle it, even without others).
So, I think Venus in Libra soesn't express herself through love, but through partnership. Partnership is the keyword with every Libra placement, and of course balance. Can you have this balance between your Venus (friendship style , how you go into romantic relationships) and between your Aries Moon (your inner self and reactions)? There is already a tension there, because probably in relationship you feel and want your partner to be pleasured by you. And you understand your own happiness through your ability to please him. And at the same time your Moon, inner self and reactions say otherwise. Sometimes you are impatient or feels frustrated if you can't see instant results, it things are not happening fast. You want to initiate actions in a passionate way, you know what you want and need, and at the same time you still want to please your partner even if you have different style or taste in some matters.

With this kind of passionate nature (and don't forget the very dominating Scorpio - it's not an offense, ok?) i can see very easily why you say Venus in Aquarius is "one dimensional". First of all, we can't just turn on and off our emotions. If we could, i would not start this thread. Because i would turn on my love if i can make someone happy, and i would turn it off if i meet a jerk. 🙂

Continue in the next post.
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I will say more to this, but i use another quote from you before:

"My cap has asked me on more than one occasion... "How can you say you love me and then be angry with me? Doesn't the love go away?""

Key important sentence and clearly shows what's in the head of venus in Aqua. Or your Venus in Aqua, and in me. 🙂 Please understand Aquarius is about ideas! We get excited by ideas! A man say me a sexy sentence and i get turn on in 1 sec without touching, just imagining what he would do. Imagination.

In his question: "Doesn't love go away?" = his idea of love is different from your idea of love. My own idea of love is something what i am not sure if exist in this world. A perfect (and perfectly happy, also boring) idea of love. I don't really understand the deeo meaning of it. I feel with my mind and not with my heart. (That's why i started this thread. But i think no peson in this earth is one dimensional when it comes to love.)

Let's go back to the original thought. "Doesn't love go away?"
We can interpret his question two ways. First it's simply philosophyical quesion about love. Also it would be good if you could tell him (and me) what is YOUR opinion on love it's nature, how you feel it, express it, how much freedom i can have in love, and how posessive i can be in love. So, with this question he made a step toward you. Toward understanding YOUR idea of love. Maybe he wants to know it, experience it.

Other interpretation is that this question is not philosophycal, rather insecure. Let's ask again:
"Doesn't love go away?" = Will you like/love me even if our love won't be ideal or perfect? Can our love endure hardships? Because in my head, according to my ideal love i should only give you happines and vica-versa. Same with your son. (And mee too, if you can teach me or even talk about love, it would be great help.)

Continue in the next post.
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"But I always feel like I'm defending myself and how I feel because the venus aqua's can't comprehend
so they feel there is some sort of emptiness to it. Kind of like an empty promise or saying something
"for the sake of saying it"."

Defending. Sometimes we are defending, we many times also apologises for faults we have never made. Sometimes we apologise because we feel the other person is the one who should actually make an apology. In our actions (Libra) we defend, and try to creat balance. I am no psychologist and has only one water planets, but can it be that you are not defending yourself as a reaction to them, but as a reaction to your own self?

Even if you say many things, there is a chance that the other person won't understand it. We can't controll others and make them understand something if they are not willing. Many times i want to udnerstand things, but still has hard time to do it. If you feel your words sounds empty for your son and boyfriend, then take a break. Instead on focusing what they don't understand, do things what they can understand. It's very hard to do, but forget the serious part, have simply fun. So you and your boyfriend can experience freedom together.

Thank you for reading my long response.
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Kstarks2:

I don't like chasing man. If a man doesn't show interest in me enough, and initiate, lead things, then i don't feel comfortable. It's probably my Libra Moon. I would hate to feel that i need to chase a man. It would torture me, and i definitely don't want that. I also like if the man has very romantic and big almost Leo-like display of love. A bit eccentric yet subtle, and full of warmth.

Ellesque:

"The consistent thing I hear from my son is "Yeah, you say that but you don't mean it, not really"."

Haha! Can you imagine how often i told this very sentence to my mother who has the same Aqua Venus as me? 😄 Imagine two Aqua Venus together! 🙂 (Just as your son and his exgirlfriend, but in a mother-daughter relationship.)

I like to hug and touch people. I am those type of Aqua venus, what QuietSt0rm was writing about. I have a constant need to touch, and feel that i am actually together with the other person, and not just imagine his presence. Also, touching is also a kind of validation of what i feel. Many times my mind is on overdrive, and i can only know what i feel if i touch. If it is good, means i am comfortable with the other. But my mom don't like any kind of touching, hugging.

On the other side, she likes preaching (unmistakable quality of every true Sagittarius Sun people). When you son say "Yeah, you say that but you don't mean it, not really." He truly believes it. And he is honest. I am not there to judge the situation, but i can easily imagine that it is not based on actual fact, but rather on a misunderstanding of how the two of you communicate one thing and act another. After years, i truly realised how deep is my mom's love. It's just her way of showing it is different than mine. And now she sometimes comes to me and gives a hug even if i don't ask. 🙂

Have you ever asked your Cap boyfreind about what is his idea of love? Did he tell you that? You may get surprised, i think.

I understand your desire to be posessed, but i am not sure if Venus in Aqua can do that. It really depends on your man. Why are you want to be posessed? When was the first time when you felt like that? Do you want to compensate something with that kind of attention? Would you feel unwanted if your partner would not posess you? Is it the only kind of validation for love. Scorpios are so mysterious, you know? 🙂
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Ellesque:

I have a suggestion for you, but it is your decision if you take on it.
First: How you described your ideal love. It would be interesting if you will start a thread on the Astrology @ Relationship forum, copy your text there, and ask people what they think about it, plus ask about their Sun, Moon and Venus sign. It's not because it is important what they think, but to see other views on it. If there is somebody who experienced that kind of deep bond in reality.

My other suggestion. When you are with Cappy, forget the deep intense talk for two weeks, and focus on the fun. When you start to feel anxious or misunderstood, push the thoughts away, and start focusing on what you can do together. 🙂

Why are you with this Cap? What is the quality you like him in the best. Is he truly the person you want to be with, or you are with him because you can imagine him fitting in your love-idea. Please don't take offense, i am genuinely interested.

Thank you for sharing with me your thoughts.

Flora
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Kstarks:

Ok, i get it now. I think we use the term differently. No, i also don't like when man act like they are everything what i need, like your Leo. By Leo-like emotions i meant, that i am personally not really good with display my emotions. It's very hard, even when i want to do it, so most of the time i show it with my touch. I learn a lot from Leo people, how they show themselves, how they enjoy themselves in the moment. Yes, sometime it's off putting when the ego goes overdrive, but thea's why i said that i like it a bit "eccentric yet subtle". Eccentric mean strange ideas, something new, but with taste. 🙂

I am a traditional woman, i don't mind flowers and dinner. That too can be done very surprisingly if the man has enough fanatasy! 😉 I'd say mixing traditional and spicing it up works for me pretty well if the man is genuine and honest.
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This is a very interesting thread. I find how I feel about my feelings are very different than what everyone elses experiences are with the cap-sun/aqua-venus guys. Its really got me thinking and putting into words how I feel.

I usually "feel" like my feelings about my love are more intense than theirs are. I had a previous lover (aries) tell me that i'm too passionate (WTF). So because of this "feeling" of being more intense, I usually try to cool my feelings off as much as possible. If you take a look at the cap introduction on the cap page this feeling is described there.

My issues about my feelings when I first meet someone I like is this - "do I just feel sexual feelings for her or is there something deeper?" and usually they are just sexual, but I get confused because of my hormones. and If they are JUST sexual, at this point in my life I usually just tell them straight up, or ignore it if I feel i'll never be happy with them.

I've never been told by any of my loves that I am too cold or aloof. I'm told the opposite. However, I know that I am aloof in the beginning. If I don't trust you then you aint getting any.
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I think it usually happens before I decide we are lovers. I haven't always "thought" before I did things. So previously I would have run head first into a relationship without us being friends first.

But now I wont make her my girlfriend until I feel we are both on the same page. So I have to feel we are friends as well. I NEED that extra time to get to know someone or the relationship will be just a sexual one and I'll get bored.

I am not friends with any of my previous lovers. I have scorpio rising. haha

nor do I talk to anyone ive slept with, but if I see them at a party and we are both single then...why not?

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Me too. I need to be friends first. First i was friends with every of my exes. Only once did otherwise and that was the worst relationship of my life.

If i am not friends first, then it's more of a superficial attraction toward the other person's body/attributes.

I can only truly warm up when first we are friends = i know the other pretty well, if i can trust him or not. That's a basic step. If he is not somone who i would want even without the sex, then there will never be love.

Love comes when i can't separate it from my friendly feelings. I almost know it from the first moment that it can be more, but i still wait to know him better.

I read in a description of Venus in Aquarius that they make lovers from friends, and friends from lovers very well.

Caprio: i think your Scorpio rising plays a big role on why you are different. That's good for you. 🙂
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I can only truly warm up when first we are friends = i know the other pretty well, if i can trust him or not. That's a basic step. If he is not somone who i would want even without the sex, then there will never be love.

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you said it best. I need to have that trust to warm up. and I can only get there by getting to know someone.

I also agree with the fact that if she is not someone I would want even without the sex... I could never love them. sex does not = love
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Ellesque:

"1. Happy, playful, joking
2. Affectionate, cuddly
3. Sexual
4. Serious
5. Sad, depressed"

LOL, it's a Capricorn thing! I am doing this too. Cappy can be extremely moody.
I can only write how it is with me:
When my mood is good i start to get happy, when i feel safe i can get extremely affectionate (i personally love to cuddle!). And after all this i get serious and want to share my secret thoughs, fears with the other. So he sees me accept them. Maybe i don'T need him to accept it, but is it for me to face my own fears. Then siddenly got sad when i feel not able to change my fears or when i think about all of the things i am not.

The solution is focus on what we have! What we achieved. Saturn can be a very hard ruler of apricorn. We move forward because we wnt toa chieve the things we don't have. It is not bad, but when it cause depression is the sign that it's time to stop this thinking. That's why it is so refreshing to look at Fire signs. They don't care, they just do it. They focus on the present and what they have and how awesome they are!

(Yes, it is very clear that you Mr. Cap was hurt in the past. But you can't do this, only he is able to fight it. Accept the fact, and leave it behind him. To forgive for himself, if he feels responsible for a reason.)

I am not the right person to give advice, and i don't see clearly your situation. But you too, Ellesque. Please work on love yourself. It's a Libra thing. Your self-worth is not depends on if you can pleasure your partner or not. Ok? (I think you are very clear with your own self, but i just felt like saying this.)

And don't forget, please. Just for the little time, if he doesn't initiate don't focus on anything, but the only on having fun. Live the moment, and later you two will see where it takes you as a couple. 🙂
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Sorry. I correct myself:

"And don't forget, please. Just for the little time, if he doesn't initiate don't focus on anything, but the only on having fun. Live the moment, and later you two will see where it takes you as a couple. "

Don"t forget to not be very intense. Life is not only about the serious talk. Just simply have fun, will you? Enjoy every moment you can spend together. Don't try to reassure him of your intensions and honesty. Just give yourself, and do things together. Just ask him out to a movie or a walk, or play a game together with friends. Enjoy! Venus in Aqua needs that kind of excitement. Air gets active from action. They need action! Serious talk is good, but leave it for later when you become a couple. It's not the time to play and show him what a prize you are! 😉
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Posted by FlorasSecret
Ellesque:

"1. Happy, playful, joking
2. Affectionate, cuddly
3. Sexual
4. Serious
5. Sad, depressed"

LOL, it's a Capricorn thing! I am doing this too. Cappy can be extremely moody.
I can only write how it is with me:
When my mood is good i start to get happy, when i feel safe i can get extremely affectionate (i personally love to cuddle!). And after all this i get serious and want to share my secret thoughs, fears with the other. So he sees me accept them. Maybe i don'T need him to accept it, but is it for me to face my own fears. Then siddenly got sad when i feel not able to change my fears or when i think about all of the things i am not.

The solution is focus on what we have! What we achieved. Saturn can be a very hard ruler of apricorn. We move forward because we wnt toa chieve the things we don't have. It is not bad, but when it cause depression is the sign that it's time to stop this thinking. That's why it is so refreshing to look at Fire signs. They don't care, they just do it. They focus on the present and what they have and how awesome they are!

(Yes, it is very clear that you Mr. Cap was hurt in the past. But you can't do this, only he is able to fight it. Accept the fact, and leave it behind him. To forgive for himself, if he feels responsible for a reason.)

I am not the right person to give advice, and i don't see clearly your situation. But you too, Ellesque. Please work on love yourself. It's a Libra thing. Your self-worth is not depends on if you can pleasure your partner or not. Ok? (I think you are very clear with your own self, but i just felt like saying this.)

And don't forget, please. Just for the little time, if he doesn't initiate don't focus on anything, but the only on having fun. Live the moment, and later you two will see where it takes you as a couple. 🙂



I love this thread! Floras you have really given great insight. I've learned these same things by experience, wish I'd had your input a year ago. My cappy is Cap/Sun, Cancer/Moon, Cap/Merc, Ven/Aqu

We were friends for 6 years before we started dating. His mood swings threw me off completely, especially since I'm cancer/Sun, Scorp/Moon...hugely intense. Anyways, I noticed this exact pattern early on (happy/affectionate/sexual/serious/sad).

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The "Happy/Playful" side is cool and that's when the fun debating takes place. When the "Serious" side kicks in...I listen intently to what he is sharing because it encourages him to open up more. I also point out the good things that he is accomplishing at work or in his life and I think that helps greatly.

The "Sad" mood, well the only thing that works is fun fun fun. I get him to play games or head to the park to jog and just goof off...that helps ease him out of the funk because it allows him to focus on something other than what he is beating himself up about...Oh and playing music really loud and acting a fool (me) that always puts a smile on his face...after all he is carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders, he needs that fun crazy stuff to relax him.

Just my share...thanks again for the great thread!
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Agreed QuietSt0rm! Definitely smoothes out some of Caps rough edges.

Yeah, I sometimes feel the same about being more Scorp than Cancer...(which I probably am since I'm scorp rising as well). My cap once told me that I was the most aggressive and intense person he'd ever met. I was like and you didn't run away? He says it scared him a bit but he likes the challenge (sheeezzz...I'm not the challenge buddy) 😉
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@ caprio

I should of said, "how do those who have a venus in aquarius feel about cheating (having sex) or being cheated on as far as their love style is concerned" instead of interpretating their love as different.. The reason why I ask this is because I have a cap venus in aquarius friend who is such a wonderful person and it just shocks me that he can easily cheat on his girl like nothing and he's barely 4 months into the relationship.. but like u say "JERK attribute".. ;0)
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Posted by ellessque
"Don't forget to not be very intense"

LOL...that's like me telling you to not be moody. hahahaha!

Everything we do is done with huge intensity and passion. moreso with me because of the aries.

If you don't get the intensity from me, that's a problem. 🙂

I know that is something I should work on, but on the other hand...this is the part of me I enjoy the most. I don't want to fizzle out my fire. I want it to shine bright. That is my struggle, finding someone who can just accept it for what it is.

Kind of like you needing someone to accept the many mood changes you have....it's inherent and to be happy, you really don't want anyone changing that about you.



I've been looking forward to reading this threat for days now. I wanted to comment but am a bit screwy feeling with the Sun Cap/ Venus Aqua guy myself.

Elle... you are keeping up just wonderfully, darling. You seem to give my answers.. lol

I love this part when you say "... that's like me telling you not to be moody" ..ha hahaa...😄


fire is life for Scorpio...well, i can say that about me for sure. Also, I have been saying the same thing over and over to Mr. Capman.. i don't want you to change.

anyway. Since it is over, I can't really put too much commenting. I may have been wrong all along. Even if he wants back, it's too late now.