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truecap
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The lady did get an attorney and was told "the house was in his name" and "the kids legally inherit the house". There was nothing she could do.

To protect yourselves legally when you shack up, you'd have to have a legal agreement, get your name on the titile of that house and each of you have a will that took care of each other.Might as well have a prenup agreement.
Thank you. That was exactly what I was after - so you don't have to get married for financial reasons, just write a legal document and you're set. So why do you then need an engagement before living together? Again, no judging, just trying to understand.

That story really pissed me off - I would like to have a serious talk with those kids. Sure, she should have protected herself with a legal document, but what they did is just not okay. Imo.
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It's also a moral decision for me personally
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Posted by tiki33
+1 True....I agree with you 100% on the issue of the house and how important it is to be protected.

""it doesn't work out, no engagement, no marriage and you have to start all over again."
Wouldn't it be even worse to start all over if you had also been engaged or married? A failed marriage isn't exactly what most people dream about. And finding a new place to live in you would pretty much have to do with or without the marriage license.

Just out of interest - I have already made clear(I hope) that I think this is up to each and every person."

No, not financially it would not be worse. At least if it doesn't work out you will have some financial relief through the interest of the home if it's sold, that's if the home is in both of your names.

If this is someone you're going to share your life with, get engaged and eventually get married then this is a life long lifetime kind of deal, failure is not an option and if it so happens it doesn't work out at least you will have some property rights etc etc.


"Also, until my name is on a mortgage for a home, I am not paying any of those bills!!" " I also won't be doing all the "wifely" duties, until I am a wife. Something he is also, very well aware of. I don't tend to change my mind, once I have it set on something, especially as serious as that."

Good!! Now get it in writing LOL!

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I agree. That was me being unclear. I meant that if you do have legal papers that gives you financial rights, a break-up would be worse if you were engaged or married as well - emotionally - which would be a reason not to rush into marriage. Just a self evident little side point. Sorry.
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The lady did get an attorney and was told "the house was in his name" and "the kids legally inherit the house". There was nothing she could do.

To protect yourselves legally when you shack up, you'd have to have a legal agreement, get your name on the titile of that house and each of you have a will that took care of each other.Might as well have a prenup agreement.
Thank you. That was exactly what I was after - so you don't have to get married for financial reasons, just write a legal document and you're set. So why do you then need an engagement before living together? Again, no judging, just trying to understand.

That story really pissed me off - I would like to have a serious talk with those kids. Sure, she should have protected herself with a legal document, but what they did is just not okay. Imo.
It's also a moral decision for me personally
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Moral in what way, if you don't mind my asking?
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Posted by HappyCapper
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The lady did get an attorney and was told "the house was in his name" and "the kids legally inherit the house". There was nothing she could do.

To protect yourselves legally when you shack up, you'd have to have a legal agreement, get your name on the titile of that house and each of you have a will that took care of each other.Might as well have a prenup agreement.
Thank you. That was exactly what I was after - so you don't have to get married for financial reasons, just write a legal document and you're set. So why do you then need an engagement before living together? Again, no judging, just trying to understand.

That story really pissed me off - I would like to have a serious talk with those kids. Sure, she should have protected herself with a legal document, but what they did is just not okay. Imo.
It's also a moral decision for me personally
Moral in what way, if you don't mind my asking?
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Blame my southern roots, , but I was raised that when you lived with someone you weren't engaged to or married to, then it is a blatant representation of yourself to the world that you're openly living in sin. I was also raised with the teaching that a woman who allows a man to take all the advantages of marriage without the commitment of marriage, is weak and doesn't respect herself or think too much of herself or believe that she is worthy of marriage.

And what happens when she gets pregnant? That affects children, but that is a whole other subject.

At this stage in life, I do rebuff some of those teachings. Such as staying the night with each other is okay - as long as you still have your own place. Aqua and I have been together 3 years and we've only ever stayed the night together about six times.

Oh, I know the world has changed and your generation has different attitudes and beliefs. I'll probably get reamed on this site for my preferences, but I don't care. I'm true to me and my personal beliefs. I don't really care what other people do, thoug
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+1 True, wise woman

Actually I've done the live together thing and I was even engaged as well and it did not work out well for me. Twice in my life I did the live in thing and engaged while living together and it did not work for me.

It was only when I set some firm boundaries as in getting married before living together etc etc that it worked out for me. I can't speak for everyone but for me I've been there done that and it only worked out when I stopped doing it the way I wanted to and did it the old fashioned way, it works.

The old fashioned way is not bad, it's a blueprint that we can either reject or accept. I rejected the old fashion way initially but I am a true believer that the old ways work, they can be modified to fit todays ideas and beliefs to keep it current. Nevertheless There are exceptions to the rule but most people are the rule and not the exception.

To each his/her own. People do what they believe in and they do what they want to do, no judgement from me, we all grown.