Thoughts?

Planetary positions

Sun Virgo 21??55'19 in house 10 direct
Moon Sagittarius 9??31'18 in house 1 direct
Mercury Virgo 17??18'53 in house 10 direct
Venus Leo 7??02'49 in house 9 direct
Mars Virgo 19??31'12 in house 10 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 29??07'49 in house 2 direct
Saturn Gemini 20??18'05 in house 8 direct
Uranus Libra 17??01'32 in house 11 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 2??45'14 in house 1 direct
Pluto Libra 1??31'00 in house 11 direct
True Node Capricorn 24??08'32 in house 3 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 16??38'13
2nd House Sagittarius 16??15'54
3rd House Capricorn 20??02'19
Imum Coeli Aquarius 25??30'30
5th House Pisces 27??49'12
6th House Aries 24??35'04
Descendant Taurus 16??38'13
8th House Gemini 16??15'54
9th House Cancer 20??02'19
Medium Coeli Leo 25??30'30
11th House Virgo 27??49'12
12th House Libra 24??35'0

Venus in Leo scares me... overbearing?

Hiding your post— 😛

^^^ Yeah cp, I missed out.

I posted something so dumb, which is not out of the norm, but really really out there, lol. so never mind cp

Posted by cowpuncher
Hey, I unhid mine, you gotta unhide yours. YOU know the rules - I show you mine, you show me yours!

We will have do this via PM 😛

Run lildol, run!
My ex virgo: scorp ascd, cap moon, leo venus, libra mars...

something was definitely overbearing, maybe it was the venus?

Well... I do have aqua ascd, and it lurves to shock, lol.
But I am going to take my opportunity to make a cap guy exercise patience for once! 😛

Yes, I'm tired of that. Hurry up! Giddyup! Hee-Yah, mules (I meant goats) hee-yah! Undelay, arriba, arriba! Make it snappy!

I don't care who wears the spurs 😛

LOL, will you make horse noises for me? Cuz that is a long trip...

Anyway, we are going to make lildol mad derailing her thread.

I pulled my ex chart from cafeastrology:
Venus in Leo

When Venus in Leo people are in love, they are proud, even boastful. This position of Venus can turn humble Virgo Suns or retiring Cancer Suns into somewhat demanding lovers. Venus in Leo loves to court and be courted, and they need to feel very special. They are warm, generous, and even grand. Though really quite loyal to their partners (remember that love is THE most important thing in Leo's life), they thrive on attention from the opposite sex. Be prepared for their displays: they will tell you about any advances members of the opposite sex make on them. Remember, they're just showing off to you, and it's likely harmless. It's a different story if you do the same, however. That's when you'll hear the lion roar...and, no doubt, you'll want to keep these cats purring. Venus in Leo wants to appear experienced in love, even if they have little or no experience whatsoever!
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Venus in Leo men and women have high expectations, but once you know that these expectations revolve only around how much attention you are giving them, you'll see that they are really quite big-hearted about most everything else. They are threatened by a relationship that appears to have settled too much, or one that's lost its spark. They are also threatened by indifferent or impersonal behavior on your part. Although their needs for physical expression through sex are generally quite strong, their need for love is perhaps even stronger. It is hard for Venus in Leo people to separate love and sex, and even their most erotic fantasies are infused with love and affection. For this reason, few Venus in Leo folk would last long in a relationship that is mostly sexual. On the flip side, they may last longer in a love-only relationship in the absence of satisfying sex, but they are unlikely to feel very satisfied.

Pleasing Venus in Leo involves paying loads of attention to them. If you're willing to make only one adjustment in your ways, it should be to remind Leo how wonderful they are. Respect and appreciate them, always. Put up with their childlike moments and their tall tales. They want to be seen as attractive by you, so avoid (at all costs!) putting them down in this area. They actually lose interest when they perceive the slightest loss of interest in their partner, and you can expect that any letdown will be acted out in a dramatic fashion. Remind them, in a gentle way, that your emotions count too. If you are feeling a little jealous, let them know. Remember, to Venus in Leo, your small jealousies are affirmations that you find them attractive and expect the rest of the world to as well. Let them decide where to go on a date, and let them pay too. When Venus in Leo feels loved and appreciated, they reward you with loyalty, a big sense of fun, and plenty of physical expressions of their love.

Short description:

Sincere, frank and warm affections. He is full of tenderness. High hopes in love. He likes to live and satisfy his passions to the fullest. Can be possessive and might even seduce for the sake of seducing to prove to himself that he is attractive. Very proud in love, and warm-hearted and generous with loved ones.

Overbearing, flirt, and very demanding. I loved the "demanding lovers" part, until his virgo sun eventually eclipsed it

Could be that ascendent, or it coupled with that venus:
Ascendant in Scorpio

Scorpio Ascendant people have a lot of presence. There is something about them that tells the world that they are not to be pushed around. Their manner commands respect, and in some cases, fear. Scorpio rising people can be quiet or loud, but they always seem powerful and determined. You either love or hate Scorpio rising people-- they are rarely people who go through life unnoticed. In fact, some of them are confused when faced with the fact that they get such strong reactions from others. They seem to look right through people, seeing through superficiality. This can be quite intimidating to some, and intriguing to others. Scorpio rising people, in their dealings with others, look for answers by reading between the lines. Surface details are discarded when they are getting a feel for people and situations around them.

Scorpio rising people value their privacy so much, it can border on paranoia. They have a strong need to control their environment and are experts at strategy. Rarely people who will blow their chances with impatience, they plan out their moves carefully and deliberately, relying on their awesome ability to feel out others and situations. Scorpio rising natives are drawn to down-to-earth, natural partners. Reliability in their partner is very important. They generally look for complete commitment and have little patience with flighty partners.

Posted by cowpuncher

Posted by AreTwoFour
I don't care who wears the spurs 😛

You bring the spurs, I've got the saddle and a lasso :p

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Save a horse, ride a cowpuncher! Muuuwaahh! damn real life is demanding that I have to go 😢

Lol, but my ex virgo... yes he was raunchy, but would not be very raunchy with me, esp after marriage. He did not like that I was kind of digging that side of him at all. Some Virgos like to have that double life going on and want to appear to be saintly, conservative, Dudley DoRights on the home front. If he just wants to seduce, maybe she will get to see that side, but if he wants to consider having a relationship, he might tone it down?

When discovering my ex virguy's porn collection (because meddling kids digging in the closets and then asking me WHATS THIS??), whoa dude, certainly not your average Hustler, Pent-House, Playboy shit, I mean deviant hard core... and after cleaning up spyware he infected MY computer with because of his, ahem, browsing habits, raunchy doesn't even describe, lol.

ARGH! My Scorp Mars is on some sort of high right now...

So much for the fricken daisy's I was feeling when I changed my Av 😛

Lalalalalllalalalalalaaallalalalalala

🙂

Hmmm, did somebody's scorp venus merge with somebody's scorp mars? 😛
Too bad caps don't usually kiss & tell, lol

I meant:
Hmmm, did somebody's LEO venus merge with somebody's scorp mars? 😛
Too bad caps don't usually kiss & tell, lol

Posted by AreTwoFour
Hmmm, did somebody's scorp venus merge with somebody's scorp mars? 😛
Too bad caps don't usually kiss & tell, lol

lol

NO, but I could probably go there 😉

Leo Venus vs. Player?

How to tell the difference?

That is a tough one. I really don't think virgos deserve their reputation as faithful as pop astrology portrays them. My virgo bestie has NEVER been faithful to her hubby, but he is a whipped dog and puts up with it. They have been married almost 30 yrs, and one of her kids isn't his, and he KNOWS it (her lover had a different ethnicity so its obvious) but he still raised it like his own. My virgo brother is a womanizer. My ex virgo was too. Not that its the sign thing, but virgos are usually characterized as loyal and faithful. Sags aren't characterized that way, but I have a sag brother that never cheats, and I know a few more IRL that don't. He may be faithful, but he will probably flirt on the side. And my faithful brother has a leo moon. Not sure about his venus, but I bet its scorp

Posted by lildol
NO, but I could probably go there 😉

Go girl! Maybe. I think you can handle it minus the emo, where I failed. Miserably. From my one experience, the virgo sun leo venus combo have skills. As long as the emotional aspect don't crop up (on their side)

Emo? His Sag Moon should help keep that in check!

Then again, Leo placements tend to take over - and, as you R24 eluded to, being it's his Venus he's probably needy in the sense that he'll need constant reassurance and be smothering *gag me now*

Actually, I can't say that, my ex Cancer has a Leo in Venus and he wasn't necessarily demanding or smothering. He seemed to enjoy the attention I gave him but wouldn't really reciprocate. Of course, he needed my focus to be on him!

What you were saying about Virgos, maybe it's his Virgo Mars that I should be concerned about as far as being a player...

Regardless, I woke this morning to a "GM beautiful" text - mind you, I just met him last week and saw him for a bit yesterday - the man hasn't even kissed me yet! Actually, when he walked away yesterday I didn't think I'd even hear from him again then he called before I even got into my driveway telling me he wanted to see me again. WTF? Desperate, needy Leo Venus is what that is - or, back to my alternate theory, a player 😛

Oh, and M, I'm not commenting on your "raunchy" statement and how it may appeal to my Scrop Mars :X
(ya wanna find out?? 😄)

Posted by lildol
Emo? His Sag Moon should help keep that in check!

Doesn't always keep mine in check, but there is a HUGE difference in scorp sun and virgo sun + gender too

Posted by lildol
Then again, Leo placements tend to take over - and, as you R24 eluded to, being it's his Venus he's probably needy in the sense that he'll need constant reassurance and be smothering *gag me now*

Maybe, my ex-virgo acted like a leo in the dating phase. Yes, very demanding and needy. Not a problem for me, because I like the clingy needy thing (I may be somewhat codependent tho, or just the scorp in me). The virgo came out of his @ss later. Meh

Posted by lildol
Actually, I can't say that, my ex Cancer has a Leo in Venus and he wasn't necessarily demanding or smothering. He seemed to enjoy the attention I gave him but wouldn't really reciprocate. Of course, he needed my focus to be on him!

What you were saying about Virgos, maybe it's his Virgo Mars that I should be concerned about as far as being a player...

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I have a virgo mars, and I'm not a player, even with the sag venus. But my mars is 8th house and has a scorpionic twist. I do think the leo does take over whenever present, and maybe thats why I fell for the virgo. Leo is in my 7th house too

ALRIGHT! Was blowing up my phone tonight... now why would someone do that whom just met me?? :/

God damn NEEDY Leo Venus, that's who!

LOL, he was just trying to woo you! Yes, my ex virgo with a leo venus was much more aggressive in the courting phase than my ex leo with the cancer venus.

But it could be the scorp rising? My ex virgo had a scorp ascendent too. Maybe that is a volatile combo on a virgo sun.

I may need a different word... overbearing might not quite be right... Sunday was the last I seen/spoke to him. Mon we texted a little during the day and Mon night I didn't have time to take his nagging phone calls. No contact at all yesterday. And today he's all up on me about where I've been and that it feels like years since he's talked to me. Ummm, yeah, ok, if you say so! You don't hear from me for a day, ONE SINGLE DAY, and you're acting like I've abandoned you somehow?? AND to top it off, you just fricken met me! Overbearing may just be the tip of the iceberg...

Maybe I'm reading too much into it - maybe he was trying to be funny...

Does it look like I'm laughing?

Sounds like someone is feeling a bit smothered...

Posted by lildol
I may need a different word... overbearing might not quite be right... Sunday was the last I seen/spoke to him. Mon we texted a little during the day and Mon night I didn't have time to take his nagging phone calls. No contact at all yesterday. And today he's all up on me about where I've been and that it feels like years since he's talked to me. Ummm, yeah, ok, if you say so! You don't hear from me for a day, ONE SINGLE DAY, and you're acting like I've abandoned you somehow?? AND to top it off, you just fricken met me! Overbearing may just be the tip of the iceberg...

Maybe I'm reading too much into it - maybe he was trying to be funny...

Does it look like I'm laughing?

Lol, yep, that leo influence must be strong stuff. Because my exvirgo was that way in the beginning. Of course I loved all that intense stuff. The relationship was whirlwind, brief dating period to cohabitation, marriage 2 yrs after, then sadly turned nightmarish. Just never marry him, and its all good, lol

Posted by StoicGoat
Sounds like someone is feeling a bit smothered...

It doesn't take much! 😛

I don't do needy (Cap Sun), I don't do controlling (Gem Moon) and I don't do up my ass all the time (Sag Venus)

So, basically, you need me. Gotcha 😛

That has crossed my mind LOL 😛

PLAYER IT IS! I just received a text from him that he's been having dreams of making slow sweet passionate love to me...

Suggestions on how to get rid of him now?

haha... he might want to just wrap it

Posted by lildol
Suggestions on how to get rid of him now?

Sleep with him?

Jk, lol

Posted by cowpuncher

Posted by lildol
Suggestions on how to get rid of him now?

Tell him normally you wouldn't want to get physical with a guy... but since you've been "flare-up/outbreak free" for a few months now it's probably safe. That ought to do it.

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LMBO

Posted by lildol
PLAYER IT IS! I just received a text from him that he's been having dreams of making slow sweet passionate love to me...

I should have been a cool cap... cuz when my ex virgo did that in the beginning, I said what a coincidence, I was having those same thoughts (except the slow, sweet part) and well...
Well, hell, lol

All sorts of Aqua and Leo in my chart... NOT a smidgen

I've never met a Leo in Venus that was this nuts or a Virgo sun for that matter.

I apparently have made him think twice, I hope anyway... last text I sent him I told him I'm a difficult woman, haven't heard from him since 🙂 Amazing, I can get rid of people by just being me 😄

Ok, the guy is giving me the creeps now!

I haven't spoke to him/texted him in days nor have I seen him since whenever as posted earlier in the thread.

He texts me tonight: Hey, where u at?

Me: Getting ready to make cookies and need to study for my job interview on Mon.

Him: I am headed ur way. Can I stop by 4 a quick hug?

(mind you, he does not know where I live)

Me: No, my son is home.

Him: I don't wanna come in. Can't u come outside to car just to say hi?

Me: No, there is no reason for you to come by my house.

Him: Can u run to gas station to say hi to me?

Of course I shut him down at that point! He then apologized for bothering me...

I'm listening to my gut on this! There is no fricken way I'm having that guy come by my house first off and I sure as hell am not going anywhere, never mind a gas station, to meet up with him to "say hi" at almost 9pm at night.

Doors are locked!! Times like this, I'm really glad I have dogs!!