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LAWD, I now see why my Virgo sis and I are never on the same page. All these years I thought she being manipulative by trying to play sensitive so she could get her way. Who knew that Virgos are Really that sensitive—

Heck, I'm sensitive too but I avoid asking if I don't want to hear the answer.

Katie, you don't have to leave your thread. If someone misunderstood what you wrote then just correct them. You always have to be mindful though, that everybodys personality isn't the same as yours. I snap on folks when I know they are acting "brand new" with the harshness and tone, but this is kstarks everday all day, and really Katie, she wasn't harsh imho at all. Hopefully you cool down and take what's being said for what it is.
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Posted by lnana04
LAWD, I now see why my Virgo sis and I are never on the same page. All these years I thought she being manipulative by trying to play sensitive so she could get her way. Who knew that Virgos are Really that sensitive—

Heck, I'm sensitive too but I avoid asking if I don't want to hear the answer.

Katie, you don't have to leave your thread. If someone misunderstood what you wrote then just correct them. You always have to be mindful though, that everybodys personality isn't the same as yours. I snap on folks when I know they are acting "brand new" with the harshness and tone, but this is kstarks everday all day, and really Katie, she wasn't harsh imho at all. Hopefully you cool down and take what's being said for what it is.




virgos can be very sensitive when they flaws are picked out thats y im so glad i have libra and leo in my charts makes me fair peaceful and kind hearted.

imo i really can't stand judgmental people or fake people.
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Posted by CappyyLuv30
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I agree. I hate fake people.

I believe earth signs are FAR from fake though, especially us Caps. The thing is and this goes for every sign, if you are coming on a public board with a relationship issue, you have to understand that you will (a)have a plethora of personalities all together in one place offering advice from THEIR point of view and from what THEY understand from your issue and (b)you have to ignore tone, just like in emails and texts.

I'm the first one that hates to be vulnerable on here but the times I've had to be, I've pressed 'post message' with my hands on my eyes because I knew I was going to get raped and I had to put on my thick skin coat to take the beating. This is how we grow. This is life.

"The soul is placed in the body like a rough diamond, and must be polished, or the luster of it will never appear."
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lol im serious tho fake people drive me bonkers lmao.

im blunt but i speak tactfully must be my libra placements lol cuz it's not how you say it it's the way you say it.

i can be straight up harsh when i'm pushed or when people start to annoy me lol.
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my cappy friend ..didn't want a relationship with anyone because he had to focus on his career first...and then he would consider being serious with somebody.. it seems caps do place a lot of importance on work and stability..it could be that he is this way
and once it's sorted he will spend some more time and effort on you?

OR

he does not want to make it too official because he wants to test the water so to speak... see how the situation pans out
while taking it easy and keeping it ligt hearted... and then maybe sometime in the future decide to make a commitment of some sort...
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ooo look at everyone ganging up on the virgos..lol
I happen to agree with what katie said and I do agree with some of the comments everyone else has posted too

All we are saying is there is a way of saying something to someone...it doesn't have to be so ridiculously blunt..the word is tactful. i Always speak the truth but not in a way that will end up with the person being hurt.
Yes we are sensitive, but we can take the truth and face it but when someone is clearly already quite upset about their situation it doesn't help to be a little understanding that he/she might not want people to be aggressive in the way that their messages are conveyed.
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Posted by QuietSt0rm
The assurance won't come from him in the beginning, you have to be self-assured yourself. Once he sees that you are self-assured and that you have confidence in him, then the assurance comes from him later. Kind of backwards, I know.

If he ever disappears again, DON'T call/email/text him. Don't promise him that you'll be waiting on him either. He probably saw the texting/calling/emailing as pressuring when he was trying to get away to get his thoughts together. He probably would have came back a lot sooner if you hadn't been reaching out to him. Give him an opportunity to miss you. Not saying to play a game, but if a man disappears on you or withdraws, mirror his actions instead of trying to pull him back in. It's natural for a woman to "panic" and try to pull him back again, but try not to do that, as you see it only works against you.

4 months is really not a long time, and I assume he'll tell you the same thing. You guys are still getting to know each other and some caps take time to commit. Others commit quickly, it depends on the chart. But if it's important to you to have that assurance from him, let your intentions be known from the beginning and stand by them.




Excellent advice.
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Katie no disrespect but why are you being so defensive? You are getting a wealth of help by people who have been in your shoes at one point, people who empathize and want to help you see another side of the situation so you can help your situation but instead you want to dictate to others how they should respond to you so you can feel better...that's very selfish and that's the same selfishness you used against your Cap and that's one reason why he's not responding to your bullying pushy 18 year old tactics to get your way...And you wonder why your Capricorn has went completely cold on you, your emotionally out of control, your demanding that others help you the way you want them to just like you demanded that your Cap introduce you to his friends only to be met with resistance because that is not how mature adults deal with issues....

You come off as very naive, emotionally desperate and entitled to have things your way, your never going to keep a man in your life if your more concerned about your own feelings more than the other persons feelings, show a little compassion and patience with your Cap and that could be a good start to mend the relationship. Right now your being ugly, your behavior is ugly and that is one of the main reasons why he's ignoring you. Get yourself together, focus on being positive and try being more objective and logical instead of emotional and pushy, stop defending your behavior because what you did turned him off and your turning us off and that's real,you can get him back but you have to change your attitude and behavior before anything positive comes out of this for you.
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Posted by candy10
ooo look at everyone ganging up on the virgos..lol
I happen to agree with what katie said and I do agree with some of the comments everyone else has posted too

All we are saying is there is a way of saying something to someone...it doesn't have to be so ridiculously blunt..the word is tactful. i Always speak the truth but not in a way that will end up with the person being hurt.
Yes we are sensitive, but we can take the truth and face it but when someone is clearly already quite upset about their situation it doesn't help to be a little understanding that he/she might not want people to be aggressive in the way that their messages are conveyed.



Oh puhleeeeze....

That's a control tactic, (some) virgo's want to control there objects and if they can't then they get bent out of shape and go on this poor me campaing...People are going to say what they want, when they want and how they want to say it and you and all the other virgo's that come over to the cap board can't control any of us just like you and all the other virgo's that try to control there men CAN'T....And that is what hurts more than anything, that you can't completely have power and control over the people you want and rejection makes you all feel out of control. We just see through the bullshit and call it.
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ooo look at everyone ganging up on the virgos..lol
I happen to agree with what katie said and I do agree with some of the comments everyone else has posted too

All we are saying is there is a way of saying something to someone...it doesn't have to be so ridiculously blunt..the word is tactful. i Always speak the truth but not in a way that will end up with the person being hurt.
Yes we are sensitive, but we can take the truth and face it but when someone is clearly already quite upset about their situation it doesn't help to be a little understanding that he/she might not want people to be aggressive in the way that their messages are conveyed.



Oh puhleeeeze....

That's a control tactic, (some) virgo's want to control there objects and if they can't then they get bent out of shape and go on this poor me campaing...People are going to say what they want, when they want and how they want to say it and you and all the other virgo's that come over to the cap board can't control any of us just like you and all the other virgo's that try to control there men CAN'T....And that is what hurts more than anything, that you can't completely have power and control over the people you want and rejection makes you all feel out of control. We just see through the bullshit and call it.
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Why does it have to be seen as control? like wtf? Why can you not see what I am trying to say? you totally just missed my point
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ooo look at everyone ganging up on the virgos..lol
I happen to agree with what katie said and I do agree with some of the comments everyone else has posted too

All we are saying is there is a way of saying something to someone...it doesn't have to be so ridiculously blunt..the word is tactful. i Always speak the truth but not in a way that will end up with the person being hurt.
Yes we are sensitive, but we can take the truth and face it but when someone is clearly already quite upset about their situation it doesn't help to be a little understanding that he/she might not want people to be aggressive in the way that their messages are conveyed.



Oh puhleeeeze....

That's a control tactic, (some) virgo's want to control there objects and if they can't then they get bent out of shape and go on this poor me campaing...People are going to say what they want, when they want and how they want to say it and you and all the other virgo's that come over to the cap board can't control any of us just like you and all the other virgo's that try to control there men CAN'T....And that is what hurts more than anything, that you can't completely have power and control over the people you want and rejection makes you all feel out of control. We just see through the bullshit and call it.
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I don't give a f*** about controlling people...lmao... I don't have the time to think this way.. I just say what I have to say and that is it...I know I can't control anyone..haha...nor would I want to.
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Posted by candy10
ooo look at everyone ganging up on the virgos..lol
I happen to agree with what katie said and I do agree with some of the comments everyone else has posted too

All we are saying is there is a way of saying something to someone...it doesn't have to be so ridiculously blunt..the word is tactful. i Always speak the truth but not in a way that will end up with the person being hurt.
Yes we are sensitive, but we can take the truth and face it but when someone is clearly already quite upset about their situation it doesn't help to be a little understanding that he/she might not want people to be aggressive in the way that their messages are conveyed.



Oh puhleeeeze....

That's a control tactic, (some) virgo's want to control there objects and if they can't then they get bent out of shape and go on this poor me campaing...People are going to say what they want, when they want and how they want to say it and you and all the other virgo's that come over to the cap board can't control any of us just like you and all the other virgo's that try to control there men CAN'T....And that is what hurts more than anything, that you can't completely have power and control over the people you want and rejection makes you all feel out of control. We just see through the bullshit and call it.
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u mean control like this lmao.


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Posted by tiki33
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ooo look at everyone ganging up on the virgos..lol
I happen to agree with what katie said and I do agree with some of the comments everyone else has posted too

All we are saying is there is a way of saying something to someone...it doesn't have to be so ridiculously blunt..the word is tactful. i Always speak the truth but not in a way that will end up with the person being hurt.
Yes we are sensitive, but we can take the truth and face it but when someone is clearly already quite upset about their situation it doesn't help to be a little understanding that he/she might not want people to be aggressive in the way that their messages are conveyed.



Oh puhleeeeze....

That's a control tactic, (some) virgo's want to control there objects and if they can't then they get bent out of shape and go on this poor me campaing...People are going to say what they want, when they want and how they want to say it and you and all the other virgo's that come over to the cap board can't control any of us just like you and all the other virgo's that try to control there men CAN'T....And that is what hurts more than anything, that you can't completely have power and control over the people you want and rejection makes you all feel out of control. We just see through the bullshit and call it.



u mean control like this lmao.

hahaha

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Posted by tiki33
Katie no disrespect but why are you being so defensive? You are getting a wealth of help by people who have been in your shoes at one point, people who empathize and want to help you see another side of the situation so you can help your situation but instead you want to dictate to others how they should respond to you so you can feel better...that's very selfish and that's the same selfishness you used against your Cap and that's one reason why he's not responding to your bullying pushy 18 year old tactics to get your way...And you wonder why your Capricorn has went completely cold on you, your emotionally out of control, your demanding that others help you the way you want them to just like you demanded that your Cap introduce you to his friends only to be met with resistance because that is not how mature adults deal with issues....

You come off as very naive, emotionally desperate and entitled to have things your way, your never going to keep a man in your life if your more concerned about your own feelings more than the other persons feelings, show a little compassion and patience with your Cap and that could be a good start to mend the relationship. Right now your being ugly, your behavior is ugly and that is one of the main reasons why he's ignoring you. Get yourself together, focus on being positive and try being more objective and logical instead of emotional and pushy, stop defending your behavior because what you did turned him off and your turning us off and that's real,you can get him back but you have to change your attitude and behavior before anything positive comes out of this for you.



hmm showing compassion something that CAPS tend to lack I suppose
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Posted by candy10
Not all virgos are going to be controlling... it's a MYTH.
I said people are entitled to their opinions and can say whatever they blooody well please BUT it is the WAY they say it that is important.



It's important to YOU not us (least some of us) and b/c it's not important to (some) of us, (some) virgos get bent out of shape. If you and others want help focus on that help instead of focusing on delivery. If you and Katie had paid attention to your own deliveries towards the men in your life maybe you both wouldn't be here now having the issues your having...

Take the plank out your own eye before trying to tell others how to communicate...Your communication issues is part of the reason why your both here.
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Posted by tiki33
Posted by candy10
ooo look at everyone ganging up on the virgos..lol
I happen to agree with what katie said and I do agree with some of the comments everyone else has posted too

All we are saying is there is a way of saying something to someone...it doesn't have to be so ridiculously blunt..the word is tactful. i Always speak the truth but not in a way that will end up with the person being hurt.
Yes we are sensitive, but we can take the truth and face it but when someone is clearly already quite upset about their situation it doesn't help to be a little understanding that he/she might not want people to be aggressive in the way that their messages are conveyed.



Oh puhleeeeze....

That's a control tactic, (some) virgo's want to control there objects and if they can't then they get bent out of shape and go on this poor me campaing...People are going to say what they want, when they want and how they want to say it and you and all the other virgo's that come over to the cap board can't control any of us just like you and all the other virgo's that try to control there men CAN'T....And that is what hurts more than anything, that you can't completely have power and control over the people you want and rejection makes you all feel out of control. We just see through the bullshit and call it.



u mean control like this lmao.


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LMAO! Hi LV
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Not all virgos are going to be controlling... it's a MYTH.
I said people are entitled to their opinions and can say whatever they blooody well please BUT it is the WAY they say it that is important.



It's important to YOU not us (least some of us) and b/c it's not important to (some) of us, (some) virgos get bent out of shape. If you and others want help focus on that help instead of focusing on delivery. If you and Katie had paid attention to your own deliveries towards the men in your life maybe you both wouldn't be here now having the issues your having...

Take the plank out your own eye before trying to tell others how to communicate...Your communication issues is part of the reason why your both here.
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yes thats fair enough, i'm not going to argue with the last bit but i'm trying to say sometimes people can be upset/emotionally drained when it comes to these problems and all i'm saying is that you can say what you want to say but with at least a little sensitivity and not totally belittling the person and pointing ouit a million and one of their faults.
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Not all virgos are going to be controlling... it's a MYTH.
I said people are entitled to their opinions and can say whatever they blooody well please BUT it is the WAY they say it that is important.



It's important to YOU not us (least some of us) and b/c it's not important to (some) of us, (some) virgos get bent out of shape. If you and others want help focus on that help instead of focusing on delivery. If you and Katie had paid attention to your own deliveries towards the men in your life maybe you both wouldn't be here now having the issues your having...

Take the plank out your own eye before trying to tell others how to communicate...Your communication issues is part of the reason why your both here.



yes thats fair enough, i'm not going to argue with the last bit but i'm trying to say sometimes people can be upset/emotionally drained when it comes to these problems and all i'm saying is that you can say what you want to say but with at least a little sensitivity and not totally belittling the person and pointing ouit a million and one of their faults.
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Unfortunately clarity feels harsh when a person is already hurting...I know how Katie feel b/c I and others have most likely dealt with some version of the same problem at one point in our lives, anything we say will feel harsh especially when a person is already on edge and hurting inside, I can almost bet if you and Katie came back here 6 months from now and reread the advice given you wouldn't feel so hurt anymore b/c you would have had time to get over these issues with your men.

No one is attacking you or Katie but were all different and have different ways of delivering our understand and truth but most of us here have really good intentions and mean well towards the people that come here for help.

The people complaining can't expect everyone to play by her rules, do it her way, say it in way a way that will help her feel better, that's not how life works, it's not realistic.

If you or anyone else feel disrespected by all means use that ignore user button, it really works wonders and also keeps your nerves intact b/c you won't have to see what that person is saying ever again.
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hey chill ladies...

i have to say although everyone has been telling me attacking everyone i see otherwise here...

there are lots of things in my relationship that i havent said and i was just saying that you dont have to jump on any conclusion and make harsh comments on anyone's life, thats all. Look, i came here to get advice but didnt want to hang out with this kind of stuff. then so be it 🙂

my girlfriends in life, they also would tell me off if i am being love-blinded, thats fine and i am also old enough to accept the truth, the reason being I was bit upset last night is that quite a few girls here on this thread got so personal when i tried to say that they might be wrong because they havent heard the whole story.

the truth is MY cappy may just see me as a sex object, or something casual, otherwise i wont be nagging him about that topic. thats true, but insecurity is a funny thing, it can just come from nowhere or just a tiny thing(if you dont admit that, there is nothing i can say). or my cappy just couldnt figure out a way to calm me down anymore so he chosed to shut down, either way, i came here wanting to talk to someone who actually has the patience to listen to what i said... rather than jumping on a conclusion then getting personal if I say otherwise. i am sure that you are all start girls, but you really dont have to get personal with people if they have differfent opinion, in the end, it's my life, my story, and no one knows it better than me.... you just have to be that open minded before coming cross like someone who is good with giving advice.

thats all i can say, com'n it's only just internet, you dont have to get to this angry with anyone. i am sure that some people have managed to get something useful from here, then good for them, i really mean it.

ciao