ANY TIME THAT POLITICIANS ASSUME THAT PUBLICLY WITHOUT ANY INFO IS BAD.
Now say the same AND prove your claim that they've been doing that. You should be able to find me one.
I remember hearing about antifa like a decade ago. Maybe look a little into the Groypers/Nick Fuentes and their relationship with Kirk (not saying they did it or didn't, but you seem to assume that other right wingers can't dislike other ones). Look into the memes that were written on the casings.
Jussie Smollett. The entire Democratic elite had a field day with this one. Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Pelosi not to mention all the news outlets and countless political commentators BEFORE facts were out. No one was killed except Jussie's ego but that's irrelevant.
Dayton, Ohio shooting. Assumed white supremacist, turned out to be Antifa sympathizer, with Biden pinning it on white supremacists and Sanders blaming "Trump's rhetorics".
Atlanta Spa shooting. Assumed again, by high-up Democrats incl Biden & Harris to be an Asian hate-crime when it fizzled out into compulsive sexual fantasies territory
There was another massacre I remember where it was assumed by top heads to be another white supremacist shooting but it turned out to be an immigrant Muslim for Syria I believe.
We could also pick apart a few police shootings assumed to be unmotivated or racist by Democratic politicians (including Kamala Harris) who spoke to soon,, but I have a life.
These just off the top of my head . . .
So did you voice your concern about politicians speaking too soon back then or is it something that struck you now when the left is under fire? If you did, I'd like to see some receipts plz?
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The Dayton Ohio shooter wasn’t politically motivated. He did share some left beliefs online, but that wasn’t his motivation and he killed his trans brother and black people.
So are we going by their motivations or their ideologies? Because the Atlanta shooters ‘sexual temptation’ was rooted in conservative religious sexual repression which is a hallmark of the right.
It really doesn’t matter because both engage in identity blame and there is extremism on both sides. But right wing political violence is objectively more frequent and lethal than left wing violence.
This is not my opinion or rhetoric. It’s backed by documented trends and numbers from the FBI/DHS. We don’t need anyone’s revenge fantasies, you’re already outpacing everyone in violent crime. If it’s anyone’s “payback” it’s yours.
It’s the Progressives that came in to make this thread in a political debate even though this is not posted in the “Politics” forum.
Here is the party they support.
welp, nobody is willing to sit down there. What are they standing up for if not their own responsibility of the death of him.. I don't know what speech Charlie Kirk mostly talk about and it seems I need to actually live in the U.S. to find out the reasons why. I am lucky enough to stay in a country where people are so based here but since my economy is not so good, I think the luck is questionable..
Hwat would happen to me if I join a political party?
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This is not true. I am going to kindly tell you what happened here. I posted this thread to honor Charlie Kirk and @solo, @Pilatesbod, and @Textosmoon shamefully brought their politics here to make it a political debate/talking point. They are sick people. This was not even posted in the Politics message board.
They forced those who do not agree with them to trade barbs with them. I chose to mostly ignore 2 of the offenders, and only stood up to the 3rd because her posts were ludicrous, absurd, and ridiculous ! Unsound even.
If you are going to say what happened in this thread, at least be truthful about it !
(Though he grew up in a largely conservative Mormon family, Robinson was not registered with either major political party and appeared to have become infatuated by the far left in recent years, according to the authorities.
“It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Utah Gov. Spencer Cox told The Wall Street Journal in a brief interview published Friday.
Cox also revealed that a recent family dinner had showcased Robinson’s newfound beliefs, as he and a relative got into it over Kirk’s viewpoints and how each “didn’t like” the 31-year-old conservative activist.)
i don’t even really care that he lived with a transgender person. there are level-headed trans people with common sense like blaire white, buck angel etc.
i just don’t know how tf one goes from not liking someone to wanting to kill them that fast.
like, how tf does one’s brain jump from A to Z that fast?
such a low IQ/EQ, arrogant, self-absorbed, narrow ass minded, obtuse, and most of all LAZY ass way to deal with any “problem” in life.
it’s this sort of black and white “anyone going against us is evil and must be eliminated” type of mentality that’s highly disturbing. too many assassination attempts on conservative figures especially. this isn’t the first time.
a mere human playing God like that and ending somebody’s life is not okay. these clowns need to sit their asses down and humble themselves. you ain’t God. what makes you think you can end someone’s life over differences of opinions?
What is your moon sign, rising sign, and Mercury? Mars?
You have a real talent with writing ✍️ and your thoughts are real cohesive. So you’re gay? What do you think about Jewish American gays that have been marginalized by the LGBT community? Rainbow flags with the Star of David and Israel flags have been banned at LGBT Pride events? There is no longer any inclusivity of the Jewish American gays in American LGBT events that they have had to create their own events. The LGBT community has embraced the Free Palestine movement. Why? No logical sense for it as there is a huge disconnect between Hamas, Palestinians, and the LGBT community. Not to mention, Israel celebrates gay pride namely in Tel Aviv.
the inside of my brain literally looks like this though 😅 no joke. i’m sure you can guess my moon and mars sign lol they’re the same lol 😂 :
oh and i’m sorry, i’m in japan so i’m not too familiar with the jewish community (?) but i think radical liberals excluding groups of people they feel some type of way about is nothing new. :/
i mean, they like to accuse conservatives of having selective empathy but have you seen how the left hates anyone who's not in their cult? 😅
i dunno about them but as a centrist, i have empathy for the things liberals have empathy for as well as things that conservatives have empathy for. there’s no rule or restriction that says you can only have empathy for one or two things :/
they’re supposed to be the party of diversity, inclusivity, love and understanding.
yeah love and understanding only for those they “like” lol screw the rest lol 😅
Long read. Guy encapsulates a lot of similar thoughts I have. Only thing I'll add--you (in the generic sense) flashed your asses. Considering the context of the event in which you did so, unlike other things--the too clever by half oblique derogatory comment, the backhanded compliments, the general 'mean girl' dynamic--its not something easily forgotten, no matter how 'nice' you pretend to be moving forward.
"I’m not talking about people who are “online”; I mean regular, everyday Americans. “Normies.” People who scroll through Facebook posts and Instagram reels from the Dutch Bros drive thru line. Political moderates who have water cooler chats about Mahomes touchdowns and Bon Jovi concerts, not Twitter threads or Rachel Maddow monologues.
Millions of them. Tens of millions. They’re logging on, they’re engaging, and they’re furious.
And I’ll be candid: They blame you guys. They blame the left.
Regardless of whether you believe it to be justified, they think you’re the bad guys here. And they are reacting accordingly.
I can already hear some of you racing toward the comments to start screeching in moral indignation, so I’m going to be blunt: Shut up and listen to what I’m telling you. Your movement will lose any semblance of relevance if you don’t develop some small measure of self-awareness, and—absent someone force-feeding you bitter medicine—you guys collectively lack the humility to do this on your own."
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp Long read. Guy encapsulates a lot of similar thoughts I have. Only thing I'll add--you (in the generic sense) flashed your asses. Considering the context of the event in which you did so, unlike other things--the too clever by half oblique derogatory comment, the backhanded compliments, the general 'mean girl' dynamic--its not something easily forgotten, no matter how 'nice' you pretend to be moving forward.
"I’m not talking about people who are “online”; I mean regular, everyday Americans. “Normies.” People who scroll through Facebook posts and Instagram reels from the Dutch Bros drive thru line. Political moderates who have water cooler chats about Mahomes touchdowns and Bon Jovi concerts, not Twitter threads or Rachel Maddow monologues.
Millions of them. Tens of millions. They’re logging on, they’re engaging, and they’re furious.
And I’ll be candid: They blame you guys. They blame the left.
Regardless of whether you believe it to be justified, they think you’re the bad guys here. And they are reacting accordingly.
I can already hear some of you racing toward the comments to start screeching in moral indignation, so I’m going to be blunt: Shut up and listen to what I’m telling you. Your movement will lose any semblance of relevance if you don’t develop some small measure of self-awareness, and—absent someone force-feeding you bitter medicine—you guys collectively lack the humility to do this on your own."
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp Long read. Guy encapsulates a lot of similar thoughts I have. Only thing I'll add--you (in the generic sense) flashed your asses. Considering the context of the event in which you did so, unlike other things--the too clever by half oblique derogatory comment, the backhanded compliments, the general 'mean girl' dynamic--its not something easily forgotten, no matter how 'nice' you pretend to be moving forward.
"I’m not talking about people who are “online”; I mean regular, everyday Americans. “Normies.” People who scroll through Facebook posts and Instagram reels from the Dutch Bros drive thru line. Political moderates who have water cooler chats about Mahomes touchdowns and Bon Jovi concerts, not Twitter threads or Rachel Maddow monologues.
Millions of them. Tens of millions. They’re logging on, they’re engaging, and they’re furious.
And I’ll be candid: They blame you guys. They blame the left.
Regardless of whether you believe it to be justified, they think you’re the bad guys here. And they are reacting accordingly.
I can already hear some of you racing toward the comments to start screeching in moral indignation, so I’m going to be blunt: Shut up and listen to what I’m telling you. Your movement will lose any semblance of relevance if you don’t develop some small measure of self-awareness, and—absent someone force-feeding you bitter medicine—you guys collectively lack the humility to do this on your own."
I’m going to post the rest of this post for those in the back.
Here are the facts:
Fact 1. Tens of millions of Americans started the week seeing a 23-year-old blonde woman—a young woman in whom virtually every parent watching pictured their own daughter—stabbed in the neck by a career criminal. These people then found out the murderer had been released from jail 14 times over.
Fact 2. Two days later, tens of millions of Americans watched a video of Charlie Kirk get murdered speaking to college students. Millions of these people knew who Charlie was; millions of them didn’t. Upon seeing the video, however, these normal Americans from across the land and across the political spectrum agreed that he was the victim of a terrible, fundamentally unjustifiable crime, and their hearts broke in sympathy for his family. Good people who had never even heard the name Charlie Kirk before wept.
Fact 3. Immediately after seeing the footage of a peaceful young man get shot in the neck, these same people logged onto Facebook and Instagram (remember, we are talking about regular Americans, not perpetually online Twitter or Bluesky users) and saw some of their local nurses, school teachers, college administrators, and retail workers celebrating this horrific crime. Not just defending it, but cheering it.
These are all facts. You may not like the implications of these facts, and we can certainly debate the underlying causes thereof, but, indisputably, they are nevertheless factual statements.
Here’s what it means for you, the Democrats reading this:
These normal, middle-of-the-road, non-political citizens just become politically active. They realized that politics cares about them, even if they don’t particularly care about politics. After watching Iryna Zarutska and Charlie Kirk both bleed out from the neck, they think their lives and the physical safety of their families—the bedrock of human society, the foundation of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs—depend on political activation, whether they desire it or not.
These people are now sprinting—not jogging, not walking, but racing—to the right. Because they blame you guys for everything that just happened.
When they see footage of Decarlos Brown stabbing a Ukrainian refugee to death, they don’t see just one demon-possessed man. They picture every university administrator, HR bureaucrat, and DEI apparatchik that ever lectured them about systemic racism, the “carceral state,” or the need to release violent crime suspects without bail in the name of social justice.
They then think back to conversations they’ve had with their cop friends—their buddy from high school who quit the force after getting tired of being called a racist, their friend at the local YMCA who vents about having to release career criminals because Soros-funded prosecutors aren’t willing to file charges—and they realize everything the left has told them over the last five years has been utter bullshit.
And they blame you. Because, even if you count yourself as a moderate Democrat, your party supported the district attorneys, city council members, and mayors that let fictitious concerns about mental health and racial justice supersede very real concerns for their family’s safety.
When these Americans see blood erupt from the side of Charlie Kirk’s neck, they don’t see just a martyred political activist. They think of every extreme leftist they’ve ever met who (1) calls anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton a fascist and (2) constantly jokes—“jokes”—about punching Nazis and “bashing the fash.”
They realize that there really do exist people who wish to see them dead for their moderately conservative political beliefs, their Christian faith, and even the color of their skin. They ask themselves if the violence visited upon Charlie might one day show up on their own doorstep.
And they blame you. Because, even if you’re just a center-of-the-road liberal, you lacked the courage to police your own ranks. You let modern-day Maoist red guards run loose across every facet of society, and what started with social-media struggle sessions has now turned to 30-06 bullet holes.
When these Americans log onto social media and see their neighbors justifying, celebrating, glorifying murder, they realize that some who walk among them are soulless ghouls at best, literally demon-possessed at worst. These people—whether they faithfully attend church every Sunday or only attend with relatives once a year, on Christmas Eve—start talking about things like spiritual warfare. They implicitly understand that no normal human casually celebrates the mortal demise of a peaceful person.
And they blame you. Because, even if you condemned Charlie Kirk’s murder, they probably haven’t seen you condemn those in your own movement who cheered it on. They view you as complicit in allowing heartless fellow travelers to celebrate death, and it repulses them.
For all of these situations, what has your response been? Nothing but bullshit.
In response to Iryna Zarutska bleeding out on the floor of a train, you post bullshit statistics about reductions in reported crime, when everyone who’s ever been to a major urban center in the last decade knows that actual crime has skyrocketed, only for victims not to waste their time reporting it to cops that don’t have the manpower to respond and prosecutors that seek to downgrade as many felonies as possible to misdemeanor citations.
In response to a 31-year-old man taking a bullet to the neck in front of his family, you post nothing but bullshit whataboutism.
> “What about January 6th?” (Honest answer: After you let Liz Cheney spend two years operating a star chamber in the House, combined with countless other failed attempts at “lawfare” against Trump, no one cares anymore.)
> “What about Mike Lee making a dumb joke on Twitter about some guy in a mask in Minnesota?” (No one outside of Utah, DC, or Twitter knows who Mike Lee even is.)
> “What about Paul Pelosi?” (That’s not comparable to Charlie Kirk getting shot, and we all know it. And, again, Paul who?)
> “What about regulations on assault rifles?” (That’s not going to get you very far when one of these killers used a knife and the other one used a common hunting rifle.)
In response to teachers, healthcare workers, and thousands of other liberals cheering on Charlie’s murder, it’s nothing but more bullshit and misdirection.
> “It’s not THAT many people celebrating!” (Yes, it is. Everyone has seen it on their Facebook and Instagram feeds.)
> “I thought you guys didn’t support cancel culture.” (We don’t cancel people over their opinions; we’re more than happy to see people lose their jobs—especially their taxpayer-funded jobs—for actively cheering on murder, though. If you can’t see the difference, that’s your own shortcoming.)
All bullshit. Not even smart bullshit, but stale, mid-grade, low-IQ bullshit. Ordinary Americans see right through it, and they don’t like how it smells.
You probably don’t like hearing this. But you need to hear it.
Because I’m right, and, as you reflect on this, you know I’m right. The ranks of my political movement gained millions of righteously angry new members this week. We have a mandate to ensure these crimes never happen again, and that’s exactly what we are now going to do.
If you want to keep a seat at the table as we do so, you’d better clean house and start policing your own.
For those who are defunct of basic reading and comprehension skills, this was not posted in the Politics message board. Thank you for coming in to this thread that is solely for the intention of honoring and processing the death of Charlie Kirk.
The way you are describing your mind with the picture, do you have a Gemini ♊️ moon 🌕? I do not know the rest of your placements, but I’m curious 🧐 if you are willing to share.
It’s the Progressives that came in to make this thread in a political debate even though this is not posted in the “Politics” forum.
Here is the party they support.
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welp, nobody is willing to sit down there. What are they standing up for if not their own responsibility of the death of him.. I don't know what speech Charlie Kirk mostly talk about and it seems I need to actually live in the U.S. to find out the reasons why. I am lucky enough to stay in a country where people are so based here but since my economy is not so good, I think the luck is questionable..
Hwat would happen to me if I join a political party?
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This is not true. I am going to kindly tell you what happened here. I posted this thread to honor Charlie Kirk and @solo, @Pilatesbod, and @Textosmoon shamefully brought their politics here to make it a political debate/talking point. They are sick people. This was not even posted in the Politics message board.
They forced those who do not agree with them to trade barbs with them. I chose to mostly ignore 2 of the offenders, and only stood up to the 3rd because her posts were ludicrous, absurd, and ridiculous ! Unsound even.
If you are going to say what happened in this thread, at least be truthful about it !
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To be honest, I didn't follow the conversations happen in this thread, I just took a quick glance, feeling them in and post whatever I just said. I have little patience on reading ppl's post unless one or more stands out, you know.. besides, I'm not a brainy person to begin with, how would I even attempt to reason with people here?
So basically what you are saying is that you want people to agree that his death was tragic as he was an activist of civil rights, am I correct? Then you also stated how you feel for him for he is pro israel, etc. and other values you hold he speaks for, right?
As he is an activist who debated his way into.. politics, I guess... You cannot deny the actual consequences which are arguments made by people.
He is afterall argumentative and many people got spiked from his temperaments.
Upon hearing him, to my view, he challenged alot of views and surely that can trigger people to think, do or act in a certain way.
Oh I'm done talking about that.
May his soul rest in peace.
If you wish his spirit to stay alive in you, didn't I already send you the link of his debate show?
It's enough. More than enough, even.
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Oh okay ! 👌 It’s okay !
I do not think you are one of the dumb ones. Far from it. I also like the topics you bring up.
It’s not that at all. With peace, it comes with a lot of goodbyes. That means I am no longer engaging with or letting negative toxic people rent any space in my head. I raised the rent and am kicking them out. That means they can post their retarded shit and I don’t give 2 fucks what they think.
Also, this was not meant to be a political thread. Anyone with common sense and any sense of human decency knows that. It was meant to honor him and/or process his death.
It’s truth that Charlie Kirk spoke. He was courageous and dived right into controversial topics. The people who hate Charlie Kirk and celebrated his death could not stand the light he brought to the world. They also hate truth. He was also making an impact and changing people’s lives.
It’s the Progressives that came in to make this thread in a political debate even though this is not posted in the “Politics” forum.
Here is the party they support.
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welp, nobody is willing to sit down there. What are they standing up for if not their own responsibility of the death of him.. I don't know what speech Charlie Kirk mostly talk about and it seems I need to actually live in the U.S. to find out the reasons why. I am lucky enough to stay in a country where people are so based here but since my economy is not so good, I think the luck is questionable..
Hwat would happen to me if I join a political party?
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This is not true. I am going to kindly tell you what happened here. I posted this thread to honor Charlie Kirk and @solo, @Pilatesbod, and @Textosmoon shamefully brought their politics here to make it a political debate/talking point. They are sick people. This was not even posted in the Politics message board.
They forced those who do not agree with them to trade barbs with them. I chose to mostly ignore 2 of the offenders, and only stood up to the 3rd because her posts were ludicrous, absurd, and ridiculous ! Unsound even.
If you are going to say what happened in this thread, at least be truthful about it !
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Why would you want to honour a white supremacist? I can understand expressing condolences. But this has nothing to do with politics. Its simple he was a white supremacist who incited violence against minorities.
He was killed allegedly by someone even more far right than him.
Im not honouring him. I wish he had not died in this manner but im not allowing you to honour white supremacism.
I’ve largely ignored 2 of them. Had to try to talk to sense in 1 of them. But I am done with the Progressives in this thread. They will reap what they sow.
Let’s let the thread move on.
You are using his blood and death to justify his extremly white supremacist beliefs which ironically only helps the groypers who killed him.
That is NOT honouring someone. Its laughing at their pain.
He was killed by a white supremacist for not being extreme enough.
If there is anything you could have done to save Charlie’s life, what would you have done?
Campaigned for stricter gun laws. No person under 25 should own a gun their brains are not fully developed.
I would also insist that all schools colleges and hospitals govt buildings etc be gun free zones.
Gun clubs of which the straight white man of 22 ( who is the suspect) and his entire republican registered family were avid members of need to be carefully monitered.
I dont believe normal citizens should be allowed to carry a gun around in public.
That is what I would have done to save the life of Charlie Kirk.
I have this only to say I condemn all gun violence.
I condemn the beliefs and incitement of Charlie kirk who I believe was a white supremacist and allegedly incited violence against minorities.
Perhaps this was a John Lennon type scenario. He disappointed an avid fan in some way.
Extremists encourage extreme fans.. . his base was young white males etc.
I think its likely the suspect stalked Kirk online. Possibly attended a few other events and perhaps felt rejected in some part by Kirk and his other fans ?
The suspect is a white straight man named Tyler Robertson who is 22. His father did the right thing and turned him in. His family allegedly are registered republicans. HIs father was ex law enforcement and now a minister of a christian church. They were all avid members of a gun club.
Of course innocent until proven guilty etc. All is alleged.
But if you ask what I would have done to save his life?
Security details should only be allowing these people to speak in gun free zones.
I would advocate for stricter gun control.
I would advise speakers to be polite and professional at all times to their fans. I would advise them to notice stalking behaviours etc soon and report them to the police. I would urge them to say things like ' I AM NOT YOUR LEADER' ' I AM NOT THE CHOSEN ONE' to discourage psychosis and a delusional following.
If your fans think you are god or a great leader etc. Its likely they are not right in the head. You want to weed people like that right out fast.
Stressing how normal you are and that the parasocial relationship you have while you respect it has boundaries etc... is important.
Stressing civility to your following and expressing to them how you would like them to behave etc. To you and others .
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Chicago is a crime-ridden city that has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. It also has one of the highest homicide rates in America. Gun laws only prevent lawful abiding citizens from arming for self-defense. It does not prevent criminals from getting them if they want them.
The gun did not murder Charlie Kirk, an assassin did. Take away the gun and there are other weapons to use. Bow & Arrow, knife, and some have mobilized vehicles to be used as weapons. So what is your solution to those weapons? More weapon control?
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Well it seems the assasin was an alleged groyper so maybe moniter them and nick fuentes for the next bit—
Reports are they have more planned. Thus the nick fuentes statement.
Posted by Bluemoon86 A thread dedicated to all things Charlie Kirk. Rather than just posting Charlie Kirk quotes, memes, and other things, I am opening a thread dedicated to the one and only: Charlie Kirk !
I think this will help those of us who have empathy for the lives of others who are senselessly murdered for no logical reason.
If there is anything you could have done to save Charlie’s life, what would you have done? I would have changed his security detail. In looking at videos online, it appears that his security detail gave hints or indications to strike Charlie when the shooter did.
The Jewish people believe that if you save one life, it is as if you have the world.
I think actually I would have asked Nick Fuentes to stop inciting violence against Kirk tbh. But right wingers wouldnt like that. I would have had the police moniter nick fuentes and his followers i would do that RIGHT NOW actually.
Posted by Bluemoon86 A thread dedicated to all things Charlie Kirk. Rather than just posting Charlie Kirk quotes, memes, and other things, I am opening a thread dedicated to the one and only: Charlie Kirk !
I think this will help those of us who have empathy for the lives of others who are senselessly murdered for no logical reason.
If there is anything you could have done to save Charlie’s life, what would you have done? I would have changed his security detail. In looking at videos online, it appears that his security detail gave hints or indications to strike Charlie when the shooter did.
The Jewish people believe that if you save one life, it is as if you have the world.
Blue moon... may I ask you genuinely this??
Do you think Nick Fuentes should be arrested for inciting violence against Charlie Kirk and other right wing figures?? Because that Kirk /Fuentes beef went way beyond normal.
He allegedly led his 'army ' as he called them to events kirk was at and led them in heckling them and allegedly encouraged them to stalk kirk.
''In 2019, Fuentes ordered his followers to target question-and-answer events held by conservatives who aligned with President Donald Trump, including a series of events hosted by Kirk, during which Fuentes and his followers heckled crowdgoers and hurled homophobic and antisemitic questions.''
Fuentes has denied allegations and disavowed followers who take up arms flatly. But in my opinion Fuentes has incited violence against kirk many times.
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Fuentes and his followers have since been banned from attending Turning Point USA events and the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, and Fuentes has often held a competing conference, the America First Political Action Conference, featuring speakers including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., former Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin and Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers, a Republican, among others.
SO if you are asking what i would have done to stop this. .... i would have broken up the groypers years ago and arrested Fuentes.
“Truth does not bend to your opinions.” - Charlie Kirk
“Cultural Marxism that has permeated all of Europe and has been the driving force that has brought France - the nation of Liberty, Fraternity and Equality - to the brink.” - Charlie Kirk
“When you deliberately distort and selectively present the truth, you lie.” - Charlie Kirk
It’s the Progressives that came in to make this thread in a political debate even though this is not posted in the “Politics” forum.
Here is the party they support.
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welp, nobody is willing to sit down there. What are they standing up for if not their own responsibility of the death of him.. I don't know what speech Charlie Kirk mostly talk about and it seems I need to actually live in the U.S. to find out the reasons why. I am lucky enough to stay in a country where people are so based here but since my economy is not so good, I think the luck is questionable..
Hwat would happen to me if I join a political party?
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This is not true. I am going to kindly tell you what happened here. I posted this thread to honor Charlie Kirk and @solo, @Pilatesbod, and @Textosmoon shamefully brought their politics here to make it a political debate/talking point. They are sick people. This was not even posted in the Politics message board.
They forced those who do not agree with them to trade barbs with them. I chose to mostly ignore 2 of the offenders, and only stood up to the 3rd because her posts were ludicrous, absurd, and ridiculous ! Unsound even.
If you are going to say what happened in this thread, at least be truthful about it !
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Why would you want to honour a white supremacist? I can understand expressing condolences. But this has nothing to do with politics. Its simple he was a white supremacist who incited violence against minorities.
He was killed allegedly by someone even more far right than him.
Im not honouring him. I wish he had not died in this manner but im not allowing you to honour white supremacism.
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You’ve offered no evidence or proof for your false claim that he is a “white supremacist” nor do you seem to have the bearings to comprehend what a white supremacist is.
He was killed by a progressive. It’s as clear as black and white. You putting your head in the sand is no excuse for yor distortion of facts.
I’ve largely ignored 2 of them. Had to try to talk to sense in 1 of them. But I am done with the Progressives in this thread. They will reap what they sow.
Let’s let the thread move on.
You are using his blood and death to justify his extremly white supremacist beliefs which ironically only helps the groypers who killed him.
That is NOT honouring someone. Its laughing at their pain.
He was killed by a white supremacist for not being extreme enough.
Posted by Bluemoon86 A thread dedicated to all things Charlie Kirk. Rather than just posting Charlie Kirk quotes, memes, and other things, I am opening a thread dedicated to the one and only: Charlie Kirk !
I think this will help those of us who have empathy for the lives of others who are senselessly murdered for no logical reason.
If there is anything you could have done to save Charlie’s life, what would you have done? I would have changed his security detail. In looking at videos online, it appears that his security detail gave hints or indications to strike Charlie when the shooter did.
The Jewish people believe that if you save one life, it is as if you have the world.
I think actually I would have asked Nick Fuentes to stop inciting violence against Kirk tbh. But right wingers wouldnt like that. I would have had the police moniter nick fuentes and his followers i would do that RIGHT NOW actually.
It’s the Progressives that came in to make this thread in a political debate even though this is not posted in the “Politics” forum.
Here is the party they support.
click to expand
welp, nobody is willing to sit down there. What are they standing up for if not their own responsibility of the death of him.. I don't know what speech Charlie Kirk mostly talk about and it seems I need to actually live in the U.S. to find out the reasons why. I am lucky enough to stay in a country where people are so based here but since my economy is not so good, I think the luck is questionable..
Hwat would happen to me if I join a political party?
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This is not true. I am going to kindly tell you what happened here. I posted this thread to honor Charlie Kirk and @solo, @Pilatesbod, and @Textosmoon shamefully brought their politics here to make it a political debate/talking point. They are sick people. This was not even posted in the Politics message board.
They forced those who do not agree with them to trade barbs with them. I chose to mostly ignore 2 of the offenders, and only stood up to the 3rd because her posts were ludicrous, absurd, and ridiculous ! Unsound even.
If you are going to say what happened in this thread, at least be truthful about it !
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Why would you want to honour a white supremacist? I can understand expressing condolences. But this has nothing to do with politics. Its simple he was a white supremacist who incited violence against minorities.
He was killed allegedly by someone even more far right than him.
Im not honouring him. I wish he had not died in this manner but im not allowing you to honour white supremacism.
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You’ve offered no evidence or proof for your false claim that he is a “white supremacist” nor do you seem to have the bearings to comprehend what a white supremacist is.
He was killed by a progressive. It’s as clear as black and white. You putting your head in the sand is no excuse for yor distortion of facts.
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Tyler Robinsons internet history has been found by the UK press its all weird far right stuff.
Groypers call people like YOU socialists they called Kirk a socialist and MAGA.
You are also ignoring the fact that I have stated over and over that Nick Fuentes repeated incited violence against most major right wing figures over and over including kirk and stalked him with a group of men whom the internet called groypers. There is video evidence of this.
His discord and social media posts reveal he used to TROLL trans people and furries and any LGBT people.
It’s the Progressives that came in to make this thread in a political debate even though this is not posted in the “Politics” forum.
Here is the party they support.
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welp, nobody is willing to sit down there. What are they standing up for if not their own responsibility of the death of him.. I don't know what speech Charlie Kirk mostly talk about and it seems I need to actually live in the U.S. to find out the reasons why. I am lucky enough to stay in a country where people are so based here but since my economy is not so good, I think the luck is questionable..
Hwat would happen to me if I join a political party?
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This is not true. I am going to kindly tell you what happened here. I posted this thread to honor Charlie Kirk and @solo, @Pilatesbod, and @Textosmoon shamefully brought their politics here to make it a political debate/talking point. They are sick people. This was not even posted in the Politics message board.
They forced those who do not agree with them to trade barbs with them. I chose to mostly ignore 2 of the offenders, and only stood up to the 3rd because her posts were ludicrous, absurd, and ridiculous ! Unsound even.
If you are going to say what happened in this thread, at least be truthful about it !
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Why would you want to honour a white supremacist? I can understand expressing condolences. But this has nothing to do with politics. Its simple he was a white supremacist who incited violence against minorities.
He was killed allegedly by someone even more far right than him.
Im not honouring him. I wish he had not died in this manner but im not allowing you to honour white supremacism.
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You’ve offered no evidence or proof for your false claim that he is a “white supremacist” nor do you seem to have the bearings to comprehend what a white supremacist is.
He was killed by a progressive. It’s as clear as black and white. You putting your head in the sand is no excuse for yor distortion of facts.
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Tyler Robinsons internet history has been found by the UK press its all weird far right stuff.
Groypers call people like YOU socialists they called Kirk a socialist and MAGA.
You are also ignoring the fact that I have stated over and over that Nick Fuentes repeated incited violence against most major right wing figures over and over including kirk and stalked him with a group of men whom the internet called groypers. There is video evidence of this.
His discord and social media posts reveal he used to TROLL trans people and furries and any LGBT people.
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You conveniently ignored this and posted your own progressive lie-machine propaganda.
Posted by serenidad
i’ll post the article from nypost confirming he himself is a leftist despite the rest of his family being republican. confirmed by authorities.
i already posted it once on the previous page but since people still kept speculating, i guess no one even read it so here it is again 😑:
from the article:
(Though he grew up in a largely conservative Mormon family, Robinson was not registered with either major political party and appeared to have become infatuated by the far left in recent years, according to the authorities.
“It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Utah Gov. Spencer Cox told The Wall Street Journal in a brief interview published Friday.
Cox also revealed that a recent family dinner had showcased Robinson’s newfound beliefs, as he and a relative got into it over Kirk’s viewpoints and how each “didn’t like” the 31-year-old conservative activist.)
When a pawn reaches the eighth rank it becomes a queen and can move any which way. Whereas a king can only ever move like a king which is one square at a time.
It’s the Progressives that came in to make this thread in a political debate even though this is not posted in the “Politics” forum.
Here is the party they support.
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welp, nobody is willing to sit down there. What are they standing up for if not their own responsibility of the death of him.. I don't know what speech Charlie Kirk mostly talk about and it seems I need to actually live in the U.S. to find out the reasons why. I am lucky enough to stay in a country where people are so based here but since my economy is not so good, I think the luck is questionable..
Hwat would happen to me if I join a political party?
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This is not true. I am going to kindly tell you what happened here. I posted this thread to honor Charlie Kirk and @solo, @Pilatesbod, and @Textosmoon shamefully brought their politics here to make it a political debate/talking point. They are sick people. This was not even posted in the Politics message board.
They forced those who do not agree with them to trade barbs with them. I chose to mostly ignore 2 of the offenders, and only stood up to the 3rd because her posts were ludicrous, absurd, and ridiculous ! Unsound even.
If you are going to say what happened in this thread, at least be truthful about it !
click to expand
Why would you want to honour a white supremacist? I can understand expressing condolences. But this has nothing to do with politics. Its simple he was a white supremacist who incited violence against minorities.
He was killed allegedly by someone even more far right than him.
Im not honouring him. I wish he had not died in this manner but im not allowing you to honour white supremacism.
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You’ve offered no evidence or proof for your false claim that he is a “white supremacist” nor do you seem to have the bearings to comprehend what a white supremacist is.
He was killed by a progressive. It’s as clear as black and white. You putting your head in the sand is no excuse for yor distortion of facts.
The way you are describing your mind with the picture, do you have a Gemini ♊️ moon 🌕? I do not know the rest of your placements, but I’m curious 🧐 if you are willing to share.
You’re not going to let me honor the legacy of Charlie Kirk? What are you going to do about it?
You are not honouring his death. You are running cover for the people who killed him. The Irony is Nick Fuentes following and incitement did this.
Left to your own devices you are doing my work for me.
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Projecting is not a good look on you.
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Do you condemn Nick Fuentes and the groyper army?
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Uh 🙄
I asked you who tf Nick Fuentes is. I do not know who he is and I am not going to look him up to make it easy for your lazy ass. You brought him up, so please tell us who tf he is. C’mon, you entered this thread with outlandish, ludicrous, and absurd false claims on the character of Charlie Kirk and have not backed a single one up with any ounce of truth.
This thread is not about the murderer. He committed premeditated murder in Utah and they have the death penalty for that crime there. At the end of the day, he will be put to death. No one cares what political affiliation you think he was or want to distort the truth with.
The way you are describing your mind with the picture, do you have a Gemini ♊️ moon 🌕? I do not know the rest of your placements, but I’m curious 🧐 if you are willing to share.
moon,mars- gemini
rising-leo
mercury-aries
venus-taurus
🙂
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Oh, nice!! Unlike some negative and toxic characters I met who have a Gemini moon, you seem to carry the Gemini ♊️ moon 🌕 well, my friend. 👯
@Victoria-sakura also has a Mars in Gemini. Is your Mars in a close aspect with your Moon?
Aries ♈️ Mercury is nice. We do not mince our words and Albert Einstein had a Mercury in Aries. 💃💃
Venus in Taurus!! I consider my Venus in Aries to be sort of like Venus in Taurus as it is accidentally dignified in the 2nd house.
Hey i just thought since you dont like me you would be honest.
Also drop your skincare routine your skin is flawless.
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You’re weird.
You come into this distorting the truth with lies about a dead man who can no longer defend himself ! Then you want attention regarding your hair or skin? What the fuck!? You cannot make this stuff up.
I think there has been one decent Democrat who has come out in support of Charlie Kirk. John Fetterman. Do you think he will keep in the Democrat party or switch to the Republican Party. Why or why not?
The Dayton Ohio shooter wasn’t politically motivated. He did share some left beliefs online, but that wasn’t his motivation and he killed his trans brother and black people.
So are we going by their motivations or their ideologies? Because the Atlanta shooters ‘sexual temptation’ was rooted in conservative religious sexual repression which is a hallmark of the right.
It really doesn’t matter because both engage in identity blame and there is extremism on both sides. But right wing political violence is objectively more frequent and lethal than left wing violence.
This is not my opinion or rhetoric. It’s backed by documented trends and numbers from the FBI/DHS. We don’t need anyone’s revenge fantasies, you’re already outpacing everyone in violent crime. If it’s anyone’s “payback” it’s yours.