Haters/Geminis

Now I'm not saying they are all haters, but my gosh do they have the capacity to be.

Much like all signs, I believe there are 2 variants to each horoscope...

Some virgos are emotional, some are not and so on

But Geminis... some are just down right NEGATIVE and never have ANYTHING good to say!
Mostly females...

Everything is an insult or criticism.
Complaints and arguements in abundance over nothing.

I don't quite understand, is there some kind of insecurity?

Geminis like to talk
I, a virgo, like to listen

We can honestly have some great rapport. As one person noted, Virgos like to talk about subjects in depth, whereas Geminis rush through many topics.

I'm fine with rushing through mostly, just small attention spans can get annoying after a while.

I put up with them because I know we can actually have quite a fun time on occasion.

Wrong..Gems are too cool and laid back to be overly negative or critical. If I am complaining about something it's because somone is trying to upset the cool vibe I'm feeling

I think as you mature as a Gem you go through a "fed up" stage, it looks much like critical and complaints, its really just tired of B.S. and lack of patience. I am currently learning patience again, maybe really for the first time, I am one of the most understanding non judgmental people there is, but, i will tell it like it is and if you don't like it, well, honesty is sometimes brutal and my dialogs can sometimes be taken offensive when i do not mean to be at all, as i said, with maturity, i am much more cautious not to offend and to be a more loving, caring, sharing personality, big work for me. I don't like to hurt anyone, yet i would without knowing.

Yet so aware, can be confusing. And frustrating for me, much less another.

Some Geminis are indeed cool and laid back... others are annoying, complacent and insulting...

Fascinating...

I don't have time to be negative. I don't care about anyone's misery enough to run around spewing insults. I'd rather have a good laugh.

Definitely meeting the wrong Gems. They must be out of touch with their other half for you to even be able to summarize them as negative people. I have my moments where someone pisses me off and I can ruin their lives with some biting words, but I try to refrain. Its not worth it.

geminis are pretty laid back but they do complain alot my ex worked at a call center and colplained everyday so bad it scared me to even work in one lol and its not even that bad lol they can be haters to just in a quiet way

It appears to be the moon, from where I observe.

Gem with a moon in a positive position .. aries, gem, leo, libra, sag or aqua ... seems to pull in more objectivity.

Gem with a moon in a negative position .. taurus, cancer, virgo, scorp, cap or pisces ... seems to pull in more subjectivity.


If moon is in negative position, which makes them more inclined to take everything to heart .. then negative emotions become more intense.

And this is apparant to me in all the signs, not just Gemini.

I'm a gemini women.
And I have something to complain about now.

This post.

Yes, I complain about alot of negative things but I like to say happy things too.

This is definitely not me. The younger me, like middle school, teasing kids in class, yeah. I wasn't a hater though, I was just mean as hell. But now, I'm definitely not a hater. I give props where they're due, and I keep my malicious thoughts to myself otherwise. Now, when I see something that's downright wrong, I will voice my opinion. But I don't 'hate'. Life's too short for that.

alot of the time, i try to keep my opinions positive. hurting someone, with my opinions, is the last thing i ever wanna do. i don't hate either. i learned along time ago that living in hate destroys your inner spirit. it only takes a short time to destroy it, but it takes even longer to repair it. possibly a life time.

I HATE haters. I absolutely can't stand getting my good mood killed. I do have mood swings from time to time, I am temperamental, and if I'm not happy with something I do tend to let people know about it. but in general I can't stand being around overly negative people. I think it's because my general mood tends to get coloured by the people I'm around and when I'm floating high on my fluffy cloud of optimism, screw you if you're going to pull me down from there.

re: what P-Angel said about moons, though, mine's in libra. so that at least does fit in.

I was born on the 23rd of may too. 😄

gems- haters?

haha..lol ..no way.. it's a game we play when we're in our typical gem mood... i just spent a week telling everyone off..
lol..sooo much fun !

Well, your game creates hate, whether you intended for this energy to be present or not ... it is present by your creation of just having fun.

See here is where the mirror has its reflection: If you have the right to be honest to people like your friend with the wedding dress and her weight...and expect her to listen to your comment openly. Then you have to, in turn, be receptive to other people's honest comments about you...without simply dismissing THEM as the problem or their NEGATIVITY as the problem. Or generalizing the blame to a broader group (This is why I cannot STAND women) or your other thread about how you are fed up with the backlash against Gems. This is not intended to be malicious...but I am simply trying to gauge whether you can see it from the other side.

Gems I've known in my life are not negative at all. Also they do not talk negative.
They are all happy and fun people.

but the outcome of their behaviour (or what other people hear from them) may be negative.
- the first girl I ran into who had a bf AND an affair was a Gem girl. The Pisces man who was her affair did suffer a lot.
- my Aqua brother's Gem wife married my brother without introducing her parents to our parents and to us. My mother suffered from that.

Right on xonsie. Well said.
I'll be straight and say I'm not a fan of Geminis. They last one I was close to was rude and negative. She did the same thing to my Aries friend as Combating did with her friend except it was over something so dumb I HAD to stand up to her. My Aries friend was wearing sandals and she hadn't polished her toenails. Gem made a really petty remark about if she wasn't going to do something with her feet then she really shouldn't be wearing open toed shoes.

I jumped in with "who gives a fuck? That's so fucking petty".

She made remarks like this all the time and to be perfectly honest with you I later came to the conclusion that she was super super jealous of my Aries friend and I. I'm not bragging about it because I think it's so pretensious when women say and are flattered at someone being jealous of them. It's just sad.
Instead of making a huge deal out of someone having a too small wedding dress and then maliciously pointing out that she'll NEVER get into it why did you ask her nicely if maybe she'd try on another size? Being honest is one thing but being RUDE is another. Thats my problem with Gems. And I'm being honest when I say that I think Gems are jealous alot and they put people down to make themselves feel better. I've observed it over and over with Gems. THat is my biggest beef with them. I'll admit that the Gem I knew had me fooled into thinking I was an ugly, freckles were bad, redhair was a freaking disease.... she actually told me this! She was jealous. Of what? I was thinner then her. That's it. How petty is that?

Case in point, I'll help split up the honest comment from the insensitive ones (insensitive being comments that don't really add any value to your point):

Honest: I went with my bestfriend this past week to look for her wedding dress. She vehemently chose a size WAY too small for her frame. I told her to do a squat, if she can't, the dress is too tight. She couldn't, go figure. Insensitive: I'm a VERY realistic and rational person, so I told her that unless she plans to go on a liquid diet, there was no way in hell she'd survive in that dress on her wedding day. Honest: I proceeded with telling her to get one size bigger so if she does lose weight, it can be tailored, but if she doesn't lose weight then at least she finds comfort in knowing the dress wont be the "till death do us part..."

Honest: She's a Leo, proud and sensitive, she took a defensive stance and said the smaller dress will motivate her to lose weight.Insensitive: (Uh, it didn't motivate her with her last fiance).

Honest: And I said, Look. Let's be realistic, you have been trying for YEARS to lose weight to no avail. You can downsize a dress too big, but you cannot upsize a dress too small. If you have the willpower to lose weight, you will, regardless. So please just think about it.

Ultimately I think you could have gotten your point across saying just the honest comments...why add all the superfluous information? Even if I agree with the fact that it would take a liquid diet to get her into that dress, it doesn't contribute to your ultimate point that its just too small for her any more than what was already said. Also why bring up her last fiance? That information is inconsequential and for what?...to emphasize she not only failed at losing weight before but also to bring up the fact that she was a failure in her last engagement...

CMGS

* comprehension skills

not comprehensive skills

I'm just being honest. That is what xonsie meant when she said you need to hear the other side rather then get nasty. Nobody ever asked for this Gems opinion. She'd just give it and it was beyond "You look fat" it was "you look fat, go on a liquid diet, your fiancee would be grossed out, your wedding dress is ridiculous". That's rude.
How am I being a hypocrite? My "friend" made cutting little remarks like this all the time and ususally I'd roll my eyes and say nothing but when she jumped my Aries friend for something so small I stepped in.
But go figure you wouldn't get it.
Eh no matter I'm not a fan of Gems and usually upon finding out a person is a Gem I steer clear. Thanks for proving my point.

I'm getting married in October. I'm hopeful and cheerful and in lala land. If I were to find a dress that I loved (and I found the DREAM dress) and a "friend" said the things you said to yours I'd be hurt by the negativity. Not because you were just "being honest" but because you were rude about it. I'm a tough cookie. I like to be told honestly. I'm marrying an ARIES for crying out loud but there is a huge difference in being honest and grinding it in with sharp shards of glass. This is what Ive come to see with Gems. Because I was young and not so secure with myself when I was around her when she dug at me over stupid little things I choose to believe her. Now that I'm comfortable in my skin it smacks of insecurity on her part. There's no need to go the extra mile to be mean unless she was jealous. Honesty is one thing being totally nasty is another.
When you described what you said to your friend you added little extras about her last fiancee. Why? That was just low and it was a little backstabbing. What was the point or were you driving home point how superior your opinion is over someone elses? That is what I mean by rudeness and it's pointless.
And she's your friend and you talk about her like this?
This is why the Gem I'm talking about is now married to my cousin and has NO friends and my family avoids her like a disease. My Aries friend who would let things slid with her finally told me she wasn't taking her nasty little comments anymore and won't speak to her. Like the first post said. I find you to be negative for no reason not to mention Gems are notorious about talking behind people's back. No thanks. With friends like that who needs enemies?

CMGS

Comprehension has to do with listening to what someone "SAID"...much like your explanation of what I seemed to miss but who actually SAID she failed in her last engagement?

Please tell me how that means I've missed the "comprehensiveness" of your statement....haha...really when you are wrong have the HONESTY to admit you are wrong...otherwise you just lose all credibility.

Gingerscorp,

Congrats on the marriage!

Posted by xonsie
Eric,

CMGS is the diametric opposite of you -- she is completely impervious to reason. Logic of any kind has no effect, only serves to enrage her. Provoke her and prepare to suffer the lukewarm soundbites of honesty, no candy-coating, and take me as I am rhetoric...again...and again...and again. The woman is dim. The woman is dense. The end.

Under these circumstances, I would spare yourself the mind-numbing task of figuring out how she arrived at her present state. I certainly won't allow my interactions with her sour my impressions of all Gems...this does seem to a CMGS specific dysfunction.

repeat response from thread "Are you fed up with the "backlash" of being a Gem?"

Yes I "comes" back...I "comes" back and "comprehensive" you

Thanks xonsie!

Saywha... thank you for telling your side without namecalling. Hmmmm... a mature Gem! 🙂
I see how a Scorp could confuse you with the "smile on the face" front. Yes, we do that. But there is a time and a place to open your mouth and for the most part a Scorp will choose to sit quietly rather then gabber all the time. We are observers. When we do speak usually we pack a verbal punch. Merely being quiet and not speaking is not being dishonest or sugar coating. There is also alot of speaking through body language with Scorps. You have to pay attention most especially to our eyes.
When it came to my Gem "friend" you bet I stood up to her but it was EVERY DAY that she had something to say. I didn't feel the need to remind her every single day that hey! maybe she should tone the negativity down a little. Honestly I'm pretty laid back and when she'd comment on the smallest and pettiest things I'd choose to ignore her. I was trying to let her be herself but really she wasn't pleasent to be around. It seemed the more we ignored her the more obnoxious she became and meaner her comments got. She'd turn at the drop of a dime on someone for nothing and try to sway us all to follow her in picking on people. Nah.... that's not me.
But thanks for the other side of the argument and being respectful about it unlike some 😉
My biggest thing is there is a line between being honest (brutal or not) and being petty and mean.

I find that people turn to insults when they have nothing intelligent to say.
But thanks for your time however much of a waste it was 🙂

Thanks!!! I let ya'll know if we make it down the isle 😉

Ya know Aries and Scorps 😛 It could be a battle. LOL

Maybe its because we felt that we've already covered one topic in depth in a quick moment, and others probably didn't understand or catch it.

By covering it .. do you mean thought of the title?

LOL.. amusing!!! 🙂

Op!!... you're not done yet... ok... keep going. hehehehehe

J.F.K. and Miles Davis were Gemini's. Just throwing that out there!

Oh my! A Scorp has come into a Gem forum trying to sting. Well, each of us have four feet to stomp the little critter.

If what you say is true Mr. Nice. Then why are you here, and reading my other post? And why are you angry and hostile. Gems know what they know. Apparently a Gem broke your wittle heart. Don't hate the player hate the game. And by the way: Why are you stalking me. Must be a Scorpio.

I would like to know why Gemini's first reaction is always the same?

They will say something like ..... A Gemini must have broke your heart.


Why, if another person has a problem with a Gemini, from the Gemini's perspective it must be an emotional injury? Why does a Gem think this automatically?


Is it because you guys know you fuck with people's feelings a lot, so naturally, what will lay in your wake are people hurt?

P-Angel, I'm not that shallow. Nor is it that black and white. There are lot's of vibrations that make ME who I am. I have Pisces, Taurus, Cancer, and Scorpio in my chart. So don't assume you know me. You do not. And if our "reactions" are usually the same. Then I don't think we can ALL be wrong. My woman is a Pisces, and she will say that we should write a book about how to make a relationship work. None of the things Mr. Nice said is true about me. Has it ever occurred to you P-Angel that if a Gem has no time for you there's a good reason? I stand by every word I said to the gentleman. You should read up on the Gemini peeps. A non-biased report that's actually balanced. And as far as the same reaction like: "A Gemini must've broke your heart." That's what any person could assess just from the response of the subject matter. Not just a Gemini response. Geez! I mean the guy did admit that he's read my other post, and followed me here just to be insulting. What would you take from that? 😉 Again, I stand my my previous post. Peace Angel.

When you let a person run their mouth like you are Mr. Nice. They tend to tell you the truth about themselves without realizing it. But, thank you for the confirmation(s). Veni, Vidi, Vici! LMAO!

As for you Miss P-Angel. I never said that I was right all of the time. I just only speak when I can back up what I say. Remember: Pisces and Gemini's are similar in this respect. They absorb. We absorb knowledge, Pisces absorb emotional energies. If I don't know something, I keep my mouth shut. At least till I gain as much of the information that I can. Then I will use my quick wit and knowledge to talk about it. So no, I don't think I know everything. Just listen to yourself as you say that. I know you are far more intelligent than Mr. Nice up there. Don't fall into that trap like he has. You seem far more mature than that. Use your psychic abilities to know this sweets.

Why must one use flattery to get his way?

We need more flattery in the world xonsie. You should understand that better than most. And there is no "Way" for me to get. I don't gain from speaking the true here.

Quite a difference between flattery and natural charm: The former is a bit contrived, artificial, with a specific goal in mind. The latter is innate, genuine, and has no agenda. Most importantly a person who is charming gets his way without upsetting others and for the most part without leaving a trail at all. I don't do either.

There's another Gem quirk-- every time their viewpoint differs from others they assume their pov is "truer"...can't figure out whether it stems from their inability to empathize or arrogance...something downright callow about their approach...

saywha?

Xonsie, he's with a pisces woman, i guess he knows how to appeal to their senses. I'm surprised you categorized it as flattery.

Precisely. You can tell he changed his tone and managed to position himself to side with her Remember: Pisces and Gemini's are similar in this respect. They absorb. We absorb knowledge, Pisces absorb emotional energies. then continues to stoke ego with I know you are far more intelligent than Mr. Nice up there. and finally setting Mr. Nice as the enemy who has ill intent to trap her...and then goes on You seem far more mature than that. and rounds it out complimenting her insightful nature Use your psychic abilities to know this sweets.

And SWEETS!!!! gag...this flattery borderlines saccharin for me...

I'm just calling it like I see it...if he gains nothing from saying the truth, why must he throw in all the ego strokes...is all I asked.

"So don't assume you know me. You do not."


You'd be wise to not be an idiot when you talk to me.


I was asking a question .. not making an assessment.

Now now guys play nice. I am going to back in read how this exchange got started. Capricorn is now in the Gemini house yo!

Posted by CombatingMyGeminiSister
Ginger,

Have you ever heard of projection bias? How hypercritical of you.

Hey CombatingGeminiSister why do you think one cannot be sincere and be empathetic at the same time?

I just wanted Mr. Nice to show his true colors. Hypocrisy. Attention is not what I seek. I joined this board to try to be of help, and to give understanding. I guess you can't be all things to all people. But, Mr. Nice, if anyone read my posts about you they would understand that you aren't as smart as you think you are. xonsie I just plain feel sorry for you. No comment other than that. It's kinda ironic that everything mr. nice has generalized about us Gems is how he's showed himself in this convo. Ironic.

Mr. Nice have you been hurt by Gemini's in the past or what? I don't understand your hostility towards them. When I was much younger I was always weary of the Gemini sign. The ones I knew were very antigonisng to people they didn't like. So yeah I thought hey this sign is really terrible. But then as I got older, I meet this one Gemini chick who changed my perception entirely. She was this bohemian chick who sang songs in coffee shops. I started talking to her and got to know here. Later I found it she was a Gemini and since then I have never meet a Gemini I didn't like.

On the cusp they are good natured people, who articulate themselves with good intentions. Some can be rude, but that is more a prefect of their up bringing than it is of their sign.

I admire a Gemini's straight talk and communicative abilities. If I were to say what's on my mind to a Scorpio I would expect the spanish inquisition. If I said the same thing to a Gemini, they might argue with me, but never take it personally.