My Gemini husband pushed me too far today

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and I had to tell him to tree trunk off. On a typical day he calls me entirely too much and yesterday he was 3 hours late coming home from work although we had plans.

I could care less where he was, but when he should call he doesn't yet he flips out on me for the same butter. Needless to say he'd been drinking. So when he comes home he's pushing me aggravating me saying let's go, c'mon lets go (he wasn't even ready). I no longer wanted to go because I was pretty pissed off at him but I remained calm. I explained that it was ok and I didnt want to go anymore. Multiple multiple times.

He snatched my phone from my hands, made a scene in front of our kids demanding me to get dressed and go insisting it was still early which wasn't the point.

I snapped. He asked why won't you go out with me now and I said "because I don't like you". I said it in a whisper but it still cut him deep because our kids were sitting in the living room with us witnessing this exchange. He then gets really angry and starts talking about how he hates me and wishes my life would end. I left because I didn't want things to go any further so he comes outside and starts kicking my car. Screaming I hate you I hate you! I hate how he acts so childish and irrational when angry tipsy or not. He has no limit.

He starts sending me texts about me coming home to dead children and although I know he's just trying to get to me I'm definetely feeling like I cannot stand my husband. Like I'm disgusted. Who does that?

There's a lot of missing components here obviously but I want out! I'm in therapy right now trying to work on being a better partner as I wanted to end things a few months ago after my having an affair he found out about. We attended marriage counseling and I obtained personal counseling because I had become so cold and indifferent toward him that he insisted I get help.

The only help I need is a divorce but I know it will get ugly so I stay to keep the peace. Most days of the week it works out but when it blows up-- BOOM!!!
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Ofc the man is going to have a controlling pattern with you since you proved you cannot be trusted.

He's still acting at the height of his emotions and he shouldn't have had to do that if you were a loyal partner.

Considering you fucked the dynamic up, maybe you should try some understanding on where he comes from now with the controlling behavior. If you do give a fuck.
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Posted by Iwill
Posted by Damnata
Aren't you the scorpio chick who tried to get with a taurus dude and sent him naughty pics? Bragging on the taurus boards about the gifts your husband buys you and how he's totally unaware?

Maybe he got fed up with being unaware and acumulated frustration over the years. At some point, you start reaping what you sow.



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Yes I am she. The scorpio chic who had an affair with a taurus. I did e the story eventually unfolded and he found out. Btw Damnata ue bought the car(same one he kicked) after he found out to sort of get me to stay. Sort of a he cant do for you what I can and no one will love you more than me blah blah blah. Not the point. I was asked to get counseling and agreed to it because I did not want him anymore but he was not willing to let go or even agree to separation. So I went thinking here I have this great guy who just wants me to love him but my heart is just not there. I cant help it I cant fix it and I shouldnt have to it should just be over. Period. But today is a new day and hes super apologetic and he made the day really nice for us I of course am not buying it because its all BS but I dont want to be the cookiemonster mom who ruins the day with all my "you think im just going to forget about yesterday" crap. So here I go again moving on to keep the peace. I want out. All he keeps saying is I know you dont like me but could you just do it for the kids. my only wish is that you could love me back. Unrequited love sucks both ways. When you are not loved back the same or when you cant love someone else back equally. Back to the Dr.'s couch I go...
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Dont get me wrong I've done wrong. That however does not give anyone the right to push me around. Hes a decent guy who I'm sure has some built up anger but he scares me sometimes. As long as things seem to go his way i.e one big happy family everything is well. As soon as that seems threatened, he loses it like his whole world is us and if that disappears... we will become an episode of fatal attraction. So for now im staying cool. keeping the peace and everyone else happy as usual. Smh. 😢
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Posted by SCORPIOGYRL
Dont get me wrong I've done wrong. (



...but continue to type whoas me, crying about a situation you went into eyes wide open. oh well it feels good and I want it, lets see what happens, my husband and kids are fine, I'm going to justify my choices... then complain and martyr myself through the consequences

you were emotionally checked out, cold and indifferent before you had the affair and could have stepped away from the marriage without gutting your whole family. but you were too weak to control yourself and too selfish to care about anyone else but your immediate gratification

I usually don't gain pleasure from other's misfortune but updates like yours make my heart jump for the underdogs and innocents (your kids) of this world

I bet your husband's not the idiot you try to make him out to be. While he's acting out on the loss and betrayal of this marriage and distracting with therapy... I hope he's getting all his finances in place











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I agree with DJ.

Yes, the divorce will be ugly. He will be vindictive and try to trip you up. Keep your nose clean. Do not give him ANY ammunition to use against you, because he will. Start planning now and have all your ducks in a row.

Think of every possible scenario of what he will say and do (and he will say and do a lot), so have your response pre-planned.

Again, keep your nose clean. Keep your dignity and don't respond to him in anger or with words. When we were going through a divorce, my ex threatened me in so many ways, he twisted everything, rewrote our history, imagined things that weren't true but believed his version to be truth. Gather evidence, document everything that happens.
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And remember, you made this mess.

The best thing for your kids is to have happy parents. The divorce, if you get one, will be ugly and they will be the ones who suffer and get played. Keep their welfare in mind and do not use them as a pawn. He may try to get custody and if he has proof of your affair, he will use that.

Staying and being miserable is not healthy for anyone. Unless, you think you have a chance of falling in love with him again. If you think that can happen, then definitely stay and try to work on it.

Maybe take a trip together alone and try to rediscover his good qualities and remember what it was about him that made you fall for him in the first place.

either way, I wish you luck.
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Shell shocker: I do not feel sorry for myself. I made a grown up decision and I have to live with the grown up consequences. Period. I have no regrets.

P-angel: I'm cheering for him too! It would be my wish that he would be in touch with an attorney and end this but I think he would much rather slit his wrists than live without me. I wish it weren't true.
TrueCap: thank you. Remember I am scorp I have recorded phone conversations, video taped him throwing my purses and watches in the fireplace, recorded audio of him apologizing for pulling a gun on me amongst many others. Screenshots of text messages, and multiple multiple phone calls made to me in one day. Admitting he's obsessed with me.

Montgomery, I'm sure I was almost relieved when he found out and the heavens opened when he left. That lasted for all of 1 day before he was begging me to let him come back. Buying everything he could to make me happy.

I didn't leave shit out it just wasn't relevant to the current situation. Behavior like this happened b4 the affair. I've been married 14 years. The affair was 6 months ago. I never cheated before that it was never an option. I'm not proud of it but I don't regret one moment of it. It taught me alot about my self and it forced my husband to accept that we weren't perfect and we needed to focus on what was wrong in our marriage and stop sweeping issues under the rug.

I realize I will never love him the way he deserves because I don't love him like that. I want love. Or nothing at all. For now I will continue to keep the peace. I'm here. He's happy.
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P-Angel: why must you insist that I am back peddling or leaving out details? Please help me understand because without going over the whole backstory and including irrelevant details from 6 months ago I made I clear in my OP that I was involved in an affair that he eventually found out about to indicate that this could be the basis for some of his Anger and harsh actions so please enlighten me OLD wise one.

I don't hold back on details to make myself look better because let's face it. None of it looks good so why bother.

I was upset and venting my feelings at that time. My feelings re my marriage are unchanged. It's one sided. One person has love, passion, commitment and all of the things that make for a solid marriage--the other person (me) doesn't.

Instead I decidedly entered into an affair and was catapulted into an awakening that for years I've been plowing along, putting on a happy face and performing the appropriate wifely duties but not really feeling fulfilled-- always feeling like there's something more out there.

I'm not asking for sympathy I don't feel sorry for myself im just expressing my feelings in regard to my current situation because I dont discuss things like this with people in my everyday world. I expect you to have an opinion just get it right.

Sag moon here. I don't hold back and please believe ive expressed my feelings about my marriage to my husband without the candy coated gum drops. I've made it clear I want it over but I do have a heart and if the man is crying begging me to stay and work things out, I owe him at least that much.

That doesn't mean I'm not going to kick and scream about it In the meanwhile. If you dont like it you can choose not to respond.
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Scorpiogyrl, that was beautifully written! Poetic, honest, fragile and strong at the same time. I like your courage too, coming here with such a controversial story...Please ignore these "karma"-screaming peeps....most of them are too young to understand a word from what you say...... (and don't seem to understand what karma is supposed to mean either....?!).

Anyway, I know the feeling of wanting to leave a dead relationship and your partner clinging onto you for his dear life. This thought helped me out: I can come to despise my partners, but not as much as to think that they cannot cope without me. That would be the ultimate offence to their spirit and intelligence!

Allow him to regain his dignity by setting him free.
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Posted by Undine
Scorpiogyrl, that was beautifully written! Poetic, honest, fragile and strong at the same time. I like your courage too, coming here with such a controversial story...Please ignore these "karma"-screaming peeps....most of them are too young to understand a word from what you say...... (and don't seem to understand what karma is supposed to mean either....?!).

Anyway, I know the feeling of wanting to leave a dead relationship and your partner clinging onto you for his dear life. This thought helped me out: I can come to despise my partners, but not as much as to think that they cannot cope without me. That would be the ultimate offence to their spirit and intelligence!

Allow him to regain his dignity by setting him free.



See, the problem here isn't understanding the unhappiness and the dead relationship. Instead of cheating, she should just leave.

What I don't get is instead of all the deception, why doesn't she just leave and find happiness.
Why can't she make a clean break and find a moral compass?

Cheaters never win and winners never cheat.
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"Why can't she make a clean break and find a moral compass?"

Ideally, she would. But wouldn't we all want to jump from a stale relationship, straight into the best relationship of our lives? Skip all the fear, loneliness, dating horrors, humiliation, rejection and failures we encounter when looking for a new partner second or third time around, this time with a couple of kids in tow?

I think she wanted a new, solid, stable and wonderful relationship with the Taurus and her kids, not just a romp in the haystack. I have absolutely nothing to blame her. Her own happiness is her responsibility.

Honestly, we probably break someones heart and potentially crush a relationship every time we get a new job. Yet nobody puts the blame on us because we did that to the second best candidate. Someone's win is most often than not someone elses heartbreak.

I came to think we should consider marriage nothing more or less than a job. Only in the f-king communism I grew up, one had a "job for life". Nothing lasts forever. It depends on us what we are willing to give up on.


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Hotbeefy. Really? I mean REALLY? Its funny. That post you quote was speaking specifically to my relationship with the bull at THAT time. I made mention of my affair and my husband having found out so what the Fawk is your point again?

Furthermore and again what part of these quoted words does NOT again point to the fact that I was involved in an affair with the Taurus Guy? News Flash!!! I never denied it nor left that out in fact I clearly provided that very detail in my OP. SHALL I get your glasses?

2nd those details are *clears throat* from like September? During the beginning phase of the relationship which when it comes to the Taurus, can go on for quite some time. Well *sips tea* Alot happened since that post. SOOOO much in fact, I hardly came back to dxp to discuss them. Obviously things really took off with the Taurus and I. Shyt got so deep and far more complicated than I can even begin to explain. So I stand corrected you don't have the full story But I see you trying to put the pieces together based on what's already here.

Based on what you've dug up it remains quite consistent with what I've been saying all along.
1. I cheated
2. My husband found out.
3. He threatened to leave but didn't
4. States he cannot live without me
5. I was unhappy with marriage then and still unhappy
shall I go on? Check the record biatch. I tell no lies.

Did I go into the details of my affair on this board. No. I didn't leave it out either. Would it help you to know it only recently ended not even 1 month ago. My husband wasn't going anywhere and I had agreed to stay. The Taurus decided he could no longer continue with me if he could not have me for himself. We ended things amicably. We were both sad but it had to happen. My husband had full knowledge of it all. He agreed to move past it. I'm still trying to figure out what you are trying to call me out on? Still confused.
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Many of you take what's on here and twist it to fit your own truth. The things I previously stated were often written at different times and phases of this whole debacle. Of course in the beginning I said certain things, as the situation changed so did my thinking. Feelings got involved when it was only supposed to be a fling.

Unexpected twists and turns took place such is life. I never expected after everything that happened that we would still be together. Now that you know everything does that make a difference? Does it further explain this spat we had on Saturday? I mean does it really?

True cap
I feel what you're saying. Easier said than done. Or we wouldnt be having this discussion. Trust me I tried. The general consensus observed by others closest to me is:

For me to leave, I would need to
1. File a restraining order
2. Relocate to another state
-affects my career, my kids education, uproot me from my family and primary support system.

This would start a shytstorm 100 x's more devastating than me sucking it up putting on that happy face and just staying.

Im just not ready for that war.

Undine: I think you've got the right idea in terms of my motives and thinking.

Me staying is creating unhappiness in me but happiness for everyone else Especially my kids and my in laws. Small price to pay.
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True cap
I feel what you're saying. Easier said than done. Or we wouldnt be having this discussion. Trust me I tried. The general consensus observed by others closest to me is:

For me to leave, I would need to
1. File a restraining order
2. Relocate to another state
-affects my career, my kids education, uproot me from my family and primary support system.

This would start a shytstorm 100 x's more devastating than me sucking it up putting on that happy face and just staying.

Im just not ready for that war.




Then suck it up and stop whining about how unhappy you are. Stop whining about how the gem treats you. Put on your smile and deal with it. Sacrifice yourself to make everyone else happy. Stop having affairs and work on your marriage. Your kids will find about about your affair one of these days. How do you think they're going to feel about that? It might be twenty years from now, but they will find out. Think about the example you're setting for your kids. Is it going to be okay some day when your daughter is unhappy in her marriage because she's learned from mom how to "put on that smile?". Is it okay for your son to have a wife that cheats on him because she's not happy? Is your son going to think it's okay to treat his wife the way you say your husband treats you?

Sure, it may be a war, but in the end, it might be for the best for everyone. I'm sure your husband isn't happy either knowing his wife doesn't want to be with him. Your kids aren't happy seeing their parents fight like that.

You're putting a bandaid on a hemorrhaging wound.
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Too bad for you GG. Because I contrary to popular belief can be the most loyal, passionate, ride or die chick you will ever know. Unfortunately I can be prone to cheating when the one that I'm with ain't the one. Will you have to guess what she's thinking. I think nawt. She'll tell you. its your choice. No 2 people are the same. signs or signs. Upbringing, personality, environmental influences and various life experiences play a significant role in the individual as a whole

But I'm sure you knew that 😉
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True cap. You are correct. At the time of the OP I was really in my feelings. All my resentment, anger, regrets about not standing my ground and leaving when I had a chance. I felt guilty about all the hurt I caused him yet he fought for us harder than ever. I'm in therapy to help me resolve these feelings, and gain a greater understanding on the causes and maybe in return I can be a better partner to and for him.

Your opinion is welcomed. I realize that it's frustrating to listen to someone whine and make no changes but the truth is I am Working toward change. It's a process.

Sucking it up.
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True cap. You are correct. At the time of the OP I was really in my feelings. All my resentment, anger, regrets about not standing my ground and leaving when I had a chance. I felt guilty about all the hurt I caused him yet he fought for us harder than ever. I'm in therapy to help me resolve these feelings, and gain a greater understanding on the causes and maybe in return I can be a better partner to and for him.

Your opinion is welcomed. I realize that it's frustrating to listen to someone whine and make no changes but the truth is I am Working toward change. It's a process.

Sucking it up.



I do hope you can work it out and fall in love with each other again.