Why you don't care, is what I want to know.

And maybe it's this very uncaring, in itself, which is why it exists.

Maybe if care was present, then it wouldn't be.

Lose of "give a shit" common struggle

WHEN care of a Gems feelings and situation seem to be un-important, then they take on the I DONT CARE and own it. SOLID

It hurts if they dont, it hurts if they care and other do not care. DEEP

we care just as much as the next person. we just don't go shouting it off a mountain top. 🙂

i agree with all of what perfect gem said. it deffinately is DEEP.

WHEN care of a Gems feelings and situation seem to be un-important, then they take on the I DONT CARE and own it. SOLID

It hurts if they dont, it hurts if they care and other do not care. DEEP

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So, is this saying that care is present if others care?

That if others don't care that you care, then why bother to care?

I can relate to that.

I don't know about the hurting part, and how that's equated to being deep ... it actually seems shallow, if care isn't present ... however, I can see how care would be absent if not realized.

What I want to know is why you don't care to care, if this uncaring actually hurts. Shouldn't it be the opposite?

Wouldn't caring to care make the pain stop?

Or, maybe not caring when care is absent is what makes the pain stop.

I don't know about the hurting part, and how that's equated to being deep ... it actually seems shallow, if care isn't present ... however, I can see how care would be absent if not realized.

Play on words and different meanings and level of meaning(s). If not realized, or realized but not returned or accepted for "it is what it is" an okay, thus accepted.

What I want to know is why you don't care to care, if this uncaring actually hurts. Shouldn't it be the opposite?

Caring hurts, not the uncaring, when we dont care, there is NO PAIN there or present, so to be in "control" of our own deep feelings, emotions, analyzing of the emotions unshared, un-returned, etc.....we love/hate extreme. If boundaries are shared and present at the onset, we take that into consideration, and if we are the ones who cross them, well we accept that responsibility and deal w/it much better than if lead to believe something other than what is present, then, SCORNED ASS and GET EVEN seem to naturally come to mine, difference, whether one EVER acts on such emotion or just honest communication about the feelings.

Wouldn't caring to care make the pain stop? NO usually makes it continue, there is where the "DEEP" comes into play, shallow, its easier to stop, DEEP ownership of emotions is where it comes into play, but we are EXTREMELY SELF aware, yet othertimes, so UNAWARE, its a crazy cycle of self to live in, yet we MUST know OURSELVES. Others dont always take the time to know us or themselves.

Or, maybe not caring when care is absent is what makes the pain stop.

Funny PA, I said almost this exact thing to the aqua male, "It would be so much easier if i didnt care" He has finally gave me some peace for a few months. FINALLY, i hope it last, he said to me, that i had never expressed it like that before, not in those words, he seemed to have finally gotten it. IDK

You guys are indeed, not easy to figure out 🙂

And perhaps that's a good thing, really.

I'm still not clear on the hurting part, though.

I know for Fish ... if we don't care, there is no feelings whatsoever, so pain isn't a part of the equation.

A Fish wouldn't do that, so this isn't applicable to Pisces.

We don't hide our feelings ....... I should think I've made that point perfectly clear in dxp !!!!!!!!!

These people who talk behind his back to tell others how they percieve him to feel will lose these friendships, and further instill the hatred of the enemies .. once he finds out that they dare to speak FOR him on how he feels.

that's not acceptable ... and a detachment from these people will surely happen when he finds out that they spoke about how he feels, when only he knows how he feels.

I'm still not clear on the hurting part, though.

I know for Fish ... if we don't care, there is no feelings whatsoever, so pain isn't a part of the equation.

Hurting, literally physical for me, and i think most in touch gem's. My heart literally hurts, my soul literally is torcher by emotion at times. And once I care, I care deeper and deeper as the friendship/relationship/etc grows. I am a sales rep, I am a relationship/repore sales rep, not the best kind for my income, but for my clients. I will take a hit before i let them take one.

As well, my integrity is so very very utmost important to me, but i find that my SELF integrity is what is hurt, i hurt me, instead of others, unless i can reach that point of dont care which was so much easier when i was younger, i appreciate more as i mature and lessons learned, even when the lessons i learned were at my expense and joke was on me......pain was deeper, but lesson was well worth it all in the end, not at the time.

Did that help any? I am trying, how do you explain what one "feels" yet can not put into words, some call it Love, LOL!

New saying for me, with LOTS OF MEANING........

ITS NOT REJECTION.......ITS REDIRECTION........

KUDO'S

This is interesting. If a gemini says that he doesn't care.. yet you plan to apologize to that gemini for the being an idiot and generally missed out on the clues, would forgiveness and being friends again be possible?

Thank you, GemGal. That takes a lot off my mind. 😄 Wish me luck!

GOOD LUCK from me.........YES YES YES, apologies mean everything to us, an we dont even have to hear it all, just knowing you cared, HUGE!

GEMgal,

I have walls i am not even aware of anymore, by the same token, i use to be a little "harder" to reach than currently. I think with time, and appreciation of life and maturity it changes some, what do you think? Softer with age? LOL

@ Perfect Gem

Thank you. I've said that he matters a lot to me. He responded affirmatively.. however his body language and tone says differently when we interact. I don't doubt his answers, but it gets hard to understand. Which is to be believed?

@ Gem Gal

Currently experiencing the wall and switch.. It's a bit like a Scorpio's need to have time alone.

yuechan ~ Forgiving is different than forgetting, trust is huge w/Gem's, and once you damage it, they will give it back, but it takes time and action and words. The wall is there, it is for you to climb and you only began w/a helping hand from the Gem to get over it, be patient and understanding of Gem's emotions, feelings, and talk to Gem about thoughts and what it takes, dont be angered by answers or discussions, and allow healing to this injury to begin.

Good Luck with this, it is a process. Good to hear response was positive, body is guarded.