Does he really hate me !!!

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I have been involved with a leo male off and on since I was a teenager ( IAM now 30 and he's 33 ). Through all of my past relationships he has always managed to pop up and so I would find myself ending the relationship that I was in. In the beginning our relationship seem like it was just sex, there wasn't a real emotional connection but we were strong attracted to each other in a weird way that we just couldn't leave each other alone. As time went on he asked me to be in a committed relationship with him but I told him idk about that as he seemed like the lady's man and didn't take him serious, so I continued to date other people eventually I got married to a libra and moved out of state which didn't work out and my Leo was in the picture as always, me and the leo male made plans to become serious, once I moved back, he would tell me how IAM the only person he wants to be with that he feel I was put in his life for all this time for a reason, that he was dumb and imature in the past and want to be serious, unfortunately I have a daughter and no real babysitters so I wasn't able to get out and do things with him so our relationship kinda went back to just being sex then we started having a lot of conflict which lead to us not talking to each other for weeks at a time but we always seem to come back to each other, well this last I guess he really got tired of the back and forth and claim he found a " new boo " which was weird and quick but I feel the person has already been there and finally told me about it out of spite and wanting to be hurtful, he then turns around and ask me if I was willing to deal with him knowing that he has someone else because he has done it for me because how much he loved me and if I didn't I didn't love him, he has even gotten fed up to about it to the point that he told me to go die ! We managed to talk again but it was akwarad because he was involved with another person and it seem he just wanted me to have sex with him and not express how I felt about the situation so I just left him alone.... @chuckcem
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I have been involved with a leo male off and on since I was a teenager ( IAM now 30 and he's 33 ). Through all of my past relationships he has always managed to pop up and so I would find myself ending the relationship that I was in. In the beginning our relationship seem like it was just sex, there wasn't a real emotional connection but we were strong attracted to each other in a weird way that we just couldn't leave each other alone. As time went on he asked me to be in a committed relationship with him but I told him idk about that as he seemed like the lady's man and didn't take him serious, so I continued to date other people eventually I got married to a libra and moved out of state which didn't work out and my Leo was in the picture as always, me and the leo male made plans to become serious, once I moved back, he would tell me how IAM the only person he wants to be with that he feel I was put in his life for all this time for a reason, that he was dumb and imature in the past and want to be serious, unfortunately I have a daughter and no real babysitters so I wasn't able to get out and do things with him so our relationship kinda went back to just being sex then we started having a lot of conflict which lead to us not talking to each other for weeks at a time but we always seem to come back to each other, well this last I guess he really got tired of the back and forth and claim he found a " new boo " which was weird and quick but I feel the person has already been there and finally told me about it out of spite and wanting to be hurtful, he then turns around and ask me if I was willing to deal with him knowing that he has someone else because he has done it for me because how much he loved me and if I didn't I didn't love him, he has even gotten fed up to about it to the point that he told me to go die ! We managed to talk again but it was akwarad because he was involved with another person and it seem he just wanted me to have sex with him and not express how I felt about the situation so I just left him alone.... @chuckcem


I don't think he "hates" you, but it sounds like he's done playing the back and forth game. It doesn't sound like you two are right for each other either, or even on the same page. A relationship takes trust and neither of you have displayed significant trust in the other. You felt he was a player, so you dated other people and married another guy. Then when things didn't work out wth your ex you started things back up with the Leo, but only sex because you couldn't go out. The Leo however wanted more and told you that.

It sounds like the Leo is your security blanket, which is why he's upset. He's now realizing that he's put himself in a one-sided situation and he resents you for it. Hence why he asked if you'd wait for him as long as he waited for you. He's also angry and saying things out of spite to see if you even care because in his mind you don't. This is why he told you about his new girl. He's essentially saying that he's prepared to replace you with someone who can be serious about him. He wants to see if you'll react to that or let him slip.

Honestly this looks like it is just going to spiral downward. If you really want to be with this guy, then tell him. Otherwise leave him alone because he's already growing resentful toward you. Continuing this patterns means that this will only get worse. If you don't want to be with him, then let him know that he should be with his new girl and that you two should keep things cordial. Just know that the Leo will probably burn the bridge with you at that point.
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Yea he’s done. Too much back and forth and no loyalty. Just seems like he’s ready to move on and you’ve gotten married and had a baby, really should let him live his life now.


So you’ve got it? I am still blinking my eyes trying to ‘get’ it...lol

Got what? There’s not much to get lol :p
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So...I didn’t get nothing from not much...heat waves? Or menopause? Which is apparently same shit...urghhh
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Yea he’s done. Too much back and forth and no loyalty. Just seems like he’s ready to move on and you’ve gotten married and had a baby, really should let him live his life now.


So you’ve got it? I am still blinking my eyes trying to ‘get’ it...lol

Got what? There’s not much to get lol :p


So...I didn’t get nothing from not much...heat waves? Or menopause? Which is apparently same shit...urghhh
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Yea i would think you’re old enough for menopause or maybe already went through it...
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Yea he’s done. Too much back and forth and no loyalty. Just seems like he’s ready to move on and you’ve gotten married and had a baby, really should let him live his life now.


So you’ve got it? I am still blinking my eyes trying to ‘get’ it...lol

Got what? There’s not much to get lol :p


So...I didn’t get nothing from not much...heat waves? Or menopause? Which is apparently same shit...urghhh

Yea i would think you’re old enough for menopause or maybe already went through it...
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I think I am a late menopauser...lmao
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Yea he’s done. Too much back and forth and no loyalty. Just seems like he’s ready to move on and you’ve gotten married and had a baby, really should let him live his life now.


So you’ve got it? I am still blinking my eyes trying to ‘get’ it...lol

Got what? There’s not much to get lol :p


So...I didn’t get nothing from not much...heat waves? Or menopause? Which is apparently same shit...urghhh

Yea i would think you’re old enough for menopause or maybe already went through it...


I think I am a late menopauser...lmao
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Honestly idk what we’re even talking about 😂
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Its been alot of back and forth because he claims to have trust issues that he has admitted to he says that he trust no one, he's always told me that he feels alone and ask me to come over because he wants to feel love around him and I do it. I've pratically begged him to open up to me I've poured my heart out to him on many occasions and he would give in every once in awhile and tell me how he feels but I have to pull teeth just to get it out of him. It got to the point where he told me that I was too mushy, but my thing was I kept going back asking questions and speaking on how I felt to make him feel comfortable and to make sure that he had no doubts about how I felt about him but the conversations were always one sided I was the one who felt as if I was talking to a brick wall not him. It was as if he thought I was a mind reader and I was supposed to automatically know how he felt and that's why we stayed with conflict because I was left to only go off how I felt... Granted he loves me and I know he does for a fact , I have shown my loyalty to him and he sees it as well, he likes to save face and play macho but I know deep down he cares and he's said that he does, I feel that this other girl is just a time waster just something to do for the moment and he will be back but when he does it might be to late... @chuckcem
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Yea he’s done. Too much back and forth and no loyalty. Just seems like he’s ready to move on and you’ve gotten married and had a baby, really should let him live his life now.


So you’ve got it? I am still blinking my eyes trying to ‘get’ it...lol

Got what? There’s not much to get lol :p


So...I didn’t get nothing from not much...heat waves? Or menopause? Which is apparently same shit...urghhh

Yea i would think you’re old enough for menopause or maybe already went through it...


I think I am a late menopauser...lmao

Honestly idk what we’re even talking about 😂
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Do we ever? 🤣🤣🤣💦💦💦
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Yea he’s done. Too much back and forth and no loyalty. Just seems like he’s ready to move on and you’ve gotten married and had a baby, really should let him live his life now.


I've let him I've his life but someway he always come back to me not the other way around, he'll get mad and tell me to stay away for good and turn around and text me talking about how he wants us to get it right and work it out after some time has passed that's how it's always been Andi was always fall for it because I do have a loyalty to him I would drop anyone for him... I feel that he doesn't like expressing his feelings I'm a private person myself but it's something about him that I feel free to talk to him about anything and that sucks that I don't get it in return.
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Yea he’s done. Too much back and forth and no loyalty. Just seems like he’s ready to move on and you’ve gotten married and had a baby, really should let him live his life now.


I've let him I've his life but someway he always come back to me not the other way around, he'll get mad and tell me to stay away for good and turn around and text me talking about how he wants us to get it right and work it out after some time has passed that's how it's always been Andi was always fall for it because I do have a loyalty to him I would drop anyone for him... I feel that he doesn't like expressing his feelings I'm a private person myself but it's something about him that I feel free to talk to him about anything and that sucks that I don't get it in return.
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But he’s seeing someone else now...
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Well you guys sound like you have a bit of trouble figuring it out, but you know Leos are dramatic. If he truly loves you, he will not be able to let go of you and will be back. Stand your ground and tell him what you want. Tell him what your boundaries are and stick to it. Then go live your life.

I had something similar happen with a Leo, I married one his friends actually. The moment he saw I was divorced (20 years later he came flying at me). I swear everytime he gets upset, he goes and sulks licking his wounds but he gets over it. It’s not a happy ending at this point, but he has promised to always be there for me. He knows what he needs to do to make it different because I told him multiple times until it got through his thick head. He still doesn’t give up..... maybe someday or maybe we are destined to be friends idk. But communication is key here. Don’t let him make you do something you don’t want to do. Be strong. ❤️



He's very dramatic ! He has admitted to me that he likes to do things to piss people off, he even told me at one point that when he gets mad not to let him just wlk away and that I need to tame him, I know that he does truly love me and is why he always come back, we've been down this road many times but with this new girl in the picture idk what to think , I feel that he trying to find what were missing ( enough attention ) in someone else or once he gets bored with her he will come back like he always does. It's a vicious cycle
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Yea he’s done. Too much back and forth and no loyalty. Just seems like he’s ready to move on and you’ve gotten married and had a baby, really should let him live his life now.


I've let him I've his life but someway he always come back to me not the other way around, he'll get mad and tell me to stay away for good and turn around and text me talking about how he wants us to get it right and work it out after some time has passed that's how it's always been Andi was always fall for it because I do have a loyalty to him I would drop anyone for him... I feel that he doesn't like expressing his feelings I'm a private person myself but it's something about him that I feel free to talk to him about anything and that sucks that I don't get it in return.

But he’s seeing someone else now...
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And that's fine, I have no problem with that... He's asked me to be there for him while he's with her and we've slept around since he told me about her, so obviously he doesn't take her serious I can't get mad at that lol it's like no matter what we have a need to have each other around.
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I have been involved with a leo male off and on since I was a teenager ( IAM now 30 and he's 33 ). Through all of my past relationships he has always managed to pop up and so I would find myself ending the relationship that I was in. In the beginning our relationship seem like it was just sex, there wasn't a real emotional connection but we were strong attracted to each other in a weird way that we just couldn't leave each other alone. As time went on he asked me to be in a committed relationship with him but I told him idk about that as he seemed like the lady's man and didn't take him serious, so I continued to date other people eventually I got married to a libra and moved out of state which didn't work out and my Leo was in the picture as always, me and the leo male made plans to become serious, once I moved back, he would tell me how IAM the only person he wants to be with that he feel I was put in his life for all this time for a reason, that he was dumb and imature in the past and want to be serious, unfortunately I have a daughter and no real babysitters so I wasn't able to get out and do things with him so our relationship kinda went back to just being sex then we started having a lot of conflict which lead to us not talking to each other for weeks at a time but we always seem to come back to each other, well this last I guess he really got tired of the back and forth and claim he found a " new boo " which was weird and quick but I feel the person has already been there and finally told me about it out of spite and wanting to be hurtful, he then turns around and ask me if I was willing to deal with him knowing that he has someone else because he has done it for me because how much he loved me and if I didn't I didn't love him, he has even gotten fed up to about it to the point that he told me to go die ! We managed to talk again but it was akwarad because he was involved with another person and it seem he just wanted me to have sex with him and not express how I felt about the situation so I just left him alone.... @chuckcem


I don't think he "hates" you, but it sounds like he's done playing the back and forth game. It doesn't sound like you two are right for each other either, or even on the same page. A relationship takes trust and neither of you have displayed significant trust in the other. You felt he was a player, so you dated other people and married another guy. Then when things didn't work out wth your ex you started things back up with the Leo, but only sex because you couldn't go out. The Leo however wanted more and told you that.

It sounds like the Leo is your security blanket, which is why he's upset. He's now realizing that he's put himself in a one-sided situation and he resents you for it. Hence why he asked if you'd wait for him as long as he waited for you. He's also angry and saying things out of spite to see if you even care because in his mind you don't. This is why he told you about his new girl. He's essentially saying that he's prepared to replace you with someone who can be serious about him. He wants to see if you'll react to that or let him slip.

Honestly this looks like it is just going to spiral downward. If you really want to be with this guy, then tell him. Otherwise leave him alone because he's already growing resentful toward you. Continuing this patterns means that this will only get worse. If you don't want to be with him, then let him know that he should be with his new girl and that you two should keep things cordial. Just know that the Leo will probably burn the bridge with you at that point.
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And that's why I've decided to just leave him alone, because it will only spiral downward. I've told him that I would be there for him in the mist of his situation ( new girl ) and we've slept around since he told me about her which makes me feel that he doesn't take that relationship serious, but if I express how I feel I always get a " here you go " response as if I'm not supposed to feel anything or at least not speak bout it and in the mist of my relationships I've never treated him like that and have always shown a high respect for him, I feel that he knows how much I care for him and he plays off of it and that's why I give up..... It's draining chasing a ghost
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I have been involved with a leo male off and on since I was a teenager ( IAM now 30 and he's 33 ). Through all of my past relationships he has always managed to pop up and so I would find myself ending the relationship that I was in. In the beginning our relationship seem like it was just sex, there wasn't a real emotional connection but we were strong attracted to each other in a weird way that we just couldn't leave each other alone. As time went on he asked me to be in a committed relationship with him but I told him idk about that as he seemed like the lady's man and didn't take him serious, so I continued to date other people eventually I got married to a libra and moved out of state which didn't work out and my Leo was in the picture as always, me and the leo male made plans to become serious, once I moved back, he would tell me how IAM the only person he wants to be with that he feel I was put in his life for all this time for a reason, that he was dumb and imature in the past and want to be serious, unfortunately I have a daughter and no real babysitters so I wasn't able to get out and do things with him so our relationship kinda went back to just being sex then we started having a lot of conflict which lead to us not talking to each other for weeks at a time but we always seem to come back to each other, well this last I guess he really got tired of the back and forth and claim he found a " new boo " which was weird and quick but I feel the person has already been there and finally told me about it out of spite and wanting to be hurtful, he then turns around and ask me if I was willing to deal with him knowing that he has someone else because he has done it for me because how much he loved me and if I didn't I didn't love him, he has even gotten fed up to about it to the point that he told me to go die ! We managed to talk again but it was akwarad because he was involved with another person and it seem he just wanted me to have sex with him and not express how I felt about the situation so I just left him alone.... @chuckcem


He wasn't loyal to his boo why would he be loyal to you?

Why in the world would you think about being with someone who told you to go die?

Its not worth fighting for.
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I have been involved with a leo male off and on since I was a teenager ( IAM now 30 and he's 33 ). Through all of my past relationships he has always managed to pop up and so I would find myself ending the relationship that I was in. In the beginning our relationship seem like it was just sex, there wasn't a real emotional connection but we were strong attracted to each other in a weird way that we just couldn't leave each other alone. As time went on he asked me to be in a committed relationship with him but I told him idk about that as he seemed like the lady's man and didn't take him serious, so I continued to date other people eventually I got married to a libra and moved out of state which didn't work out and my Leo was in the picture as always, me and the leo male made plans to become serious, once I moved back, he would tell me how IAM the only person he wants to be with that he feel I was put in his life for all this time for a reason, that he was dumb and imature in the past and want to be serious, unfortunately I have a daughter and no real babysitters so I wasn't able to get out and do things with him so our relationship kinda went back to just being sex then we started having a lot of conflict which lead to us not talking to each other for weeks at a time but we always seem to come back to each other, well this last I guess he really got tired of the back and forth and claim he found a " new boo " which was weird and quick but I feel the person has already been there and finally told me about it out of spite and wanting to be hurtful, he then turns around and ask me if I was willing to deal with him knowing that he has someone else because he has done it for me because how much he loved me and if I didn't I didn't love him, he has even gotten fed up to about it to the point that he told me to go die ! We managed to talk again but it was akwarad because he was involved with another person and it seem he just wanted me to have sex with him and not express how I felt about the situation so I just left him alone.... @chuckcem


He wasn't loyal to his boo why would he be loyal to you?

Why in the world would you think about being with someone who told you to go die?

Its not worth fighting for.
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I'm not with him !!!! I've said that in my first post that I left him alone..... I've pretty much got it figured out that it's no worth fighting for thanks.... I posted on this fourm to vent and get insight that's all, that is the point of this right —??
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I have been involved with a leo male off and on since I was a teenager ( IAM now 30 and he's 33 ). Through all of my past relationships he has always managed to pop up and so I would find myself ending the relationship that I was in. In the beginning our relationship seem like it was just sex, there wasn't a real emotional connection but we were strong attracted to each other in a weird way that we just couldn't leave each other alone. As time went on he asked me to be in a committed relationship with him but I told him idk about that as he seemed like the lady's man and didn't take him serious, so I continued to date other people eventually I got married to a libra and moved out of state which didn't work out and my Leo was in the picture as always, me and the leo male made plans to become serious, once I moved back, he would tell me how IAM the only person he wants to be with that he feel I was put in his life for all this time for a reason, that he was dumb and imature in the past and want to be serious, unfortunately I have a daughter and no real babysitters so I wasn't able to get out and do things with him so our relationship kinda went back to just being sex then we started having a lot of conflict which lead to us not talking to each other for weeks at a time but we always seem to come back to each other, well this last I guess he really got tired of the back and forth and claim he found a " new boo " which was weird and quick but I feel the person has already been there and finally told me about it out of spite and wanting to be hurtful, he then turns around and ask me if I was willing to deal with him knowing that he has someone else because he has done it for me because how much he loved me and if I didn't I didn't love him, he has even gotten fed up to about it to the point that he told me to go die ! We managed to talk again but it was akwarad because he was involved with another person and it seem he just wanted me to have sex with him and not express how I felt about the situation so I just left him alone.... @chuckcem


He wasn't loyal to his boo why would he be loyal to you?

Why in the world would you think about being with someone who told you to go die?

Its not worth fighting for.

I'm not with him !!!! I've said that in my first post that I left him alone..... I've pretty much got it figured out that it's no worth fighting for thanks.... I posted on this fourm to vent and get insight that's all, that is the point of this right —??
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I have been involved with a leo male off and on since I was a teenager ( IAM now 30 and he's 33 ). Through all of my past relationships he has always managed to pop up and so I would find myself ending the relationship that I was in. In the beginning our relationship seem like it was just sex, there wasn't a real emotional connection but we were strong attracted to each other in a weird way that we just couldn't leave each other alone. As time went on he asked me to be in a committed relationship with him but I told him idk about that as he seemed like the lady's man and didn't take him serious, so I continued to date other people eventually I got married to a libra and moved out of state which didn't work out and my Leo was in the picture as always, me and the leo male made plans to become serious, once I moved back, he would tell me how IAM the only person he wants to be with that he feel I was put in his life for all this time for a reason, that he was dumb and imature in the past and want to be serious, unfortunately I have a daughter and no real babysitters so I wasn't able to get out and do things with him so our relationship kinda went back to just being sex then we started having a lot of conflict which lead to us not talking to each other for weeks at a time but we always seem to come back to each other, well this last I guess he really got tired of the back and forth and claim he found a " new boo " which was weird and quick but I feel the person has already been there and finally told me about it out of spite and wanting to be hurtful, he then turns around and ask me if I was willing to deal with him knowing that he has someone else because he has done it for me because how much he loved me and if I didn't I didn't love him, he has even gotten fed up to about it to the point that he told me to go die ! We managed to talk again but it was akwarad because he was involved with another person and it seem he just wanted me to have sex with him and not express how I felt about the situation so I just left him alone.... @chuckcem


I don't think he "hates" you, but it sounds like he's done playing the back and forth game. It doesn't sound like you two are right for each other either, or even on the same page. A relationship takes trust and neither of you have displayed significant trust in the other. You felt he was a player, so you dated other people and married another guy. Then when things didn't work out wth your ex you started things back up with the Leo, but only sex because you couldn't go out. The Leo however wanted more and told you that.

It sounds like the Leo is your security blanket, which is why he's upset. He's now realizing that he's put himself in a one-sided situation and he resents you for it. Hence why he asked if you'd wait for him as long as he waited for you. He's also angry and saying things out of spite to see if you even care because in his mind you don't. This is why he told you about his new girl. He's essentially saying that he's prepared to replace you with someone who can be serious about him. He wants to see if you'll react to that or let him slip.

Honestly this looks like it is just going to spiral downward. If you really want to be with this guy, then tell him. Otherwise leave him alone because he's already growing resentful toward you. Continuing this patterns means that this will only get worse. If you don't want to be with him, then let him know that he should be with his new girl and that you two should keep things cordial. Just know that the Leo will probably burn the bridge with you at that point.

And that's why I've decided to just leave him alone, because it will only spiral downward. I've told him that I would be there for him in the mist of his situation ( new girl ) and we've slept around since he told me about her which makes me feel that he doesn't take that relationship serious, but if I express how I feel I always get a " here you go " response as if I'm not supposed to feel anything or at least not speak bout it and in the mist of my relationships I've never treated him like that and have always shown a high respect for him, I feel that he knows how much I care for him and he plays off of it and that's why I give up..... It's draining chasing a ghost
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It sounds like he doesn't actually believe that you care about him.