I want to break your heart and give you mine. You're taking me over.
Leo Loves Scorpio; What to do?
I'm not sure what I should do, how I should feel, how I should proceed, or what is going on. Any thoughts?
He sounds like he holds traits that could develop into forms of abuse.
I think you need to isolate yourself for a few days and reflect on yourself, where you see yourself going, what you see yourself doing, how you want to live in the future.
After sorting that out, reflect on if you see him in those visions - and how he'd fit in. Will he push you to reach those goals and to reach your potential? Or will he restrict that.
This is all about you. Don't allow your heart to settle. But most importantly, take your time with this.
I think you need to isolate yourself for a few days and reflect on yourself, where you see yourself going, what you see yourself doing, how you want to live in the future.
After sorting that out, reflect on if you see him in those visions - and how he'd fit in. Will he push you to reach those goals and to reach your potential? Or will he restrict that.
This is all about you. Don't allow your heart to settle. But most importantly, take your time with this.
You are right. I will follow your advice. He has been supportive in regards to pushing me to do my work. Sometimes I'll be laying with him and get (leo lazy) and want to miss work for a day, and he'll really force me to go because he wants me to succeed. After that, I realized that succeeding is important not just because he wants me to but for myself as well. He's moving and wants me to visit him and has spoken about spending time with him once he moves..and honestly I'm kind of scared that once he moves I really won't even provide him with the attention he needs...due to being busy. the whole thing might just dissolved and I would really like to know where we are. Thank you sheathedclaws. 🙂
@sweat.lioness, when you told him you had decided to date other people, was that with in the intention of staying in the relationship with him, or break-it-off? I would think if he still considers the two of you to be a couple, regardless of what he sees in the future, the idea or fact of you dating other men would be unbearable.
Obviously, to me, the most important thing here is you, and perhaps you should focus on that. You seem to want to stay with him, but aren't willing to continue without stability, tell him that. Tell him what you require, and be willing to stay true to your needs even if he can't or won't meet them.
I second what Sheated wrote about protecting yourself against abuse, again, take care of yourself.
@ SwimmingLioness
When I told him that I had decided to date other people I told him with the intention of breaking it off.
He told me; fine I'll go 888k other 3itches then.
I replied with self respect; I didn't tell you I was going to 888k anyone, just that I'm going to go on a date.
He then said; THAT"S WORSE!
Which to me didn't really make any sense.
A couple of days after he tried really hard to reconcile.
and it was a really wonderful time that we had which confused me even more.
In the conversation that I told him I would date other people I did state clearly that I needed and required stability. But he doesn't have a stable job, stable place of living (he's moving), or stable life in general.
His concern is that he can not provide me with stability, if his own life is not stable.
However, my way of thinking (and what I told him directly) is that sometimes in life when you affirm stability in one area...everything else seems to fall into place...as you try to conquer and assume stability in other areas of life.
Thank you for the advice, I hear it and will definitely take it. 🙂
Obviously, to me, the most important thing here is you, and perhaps you should focus on that. You seem to want to stay with him, but aren't willing to continue without stability, tell him that. Tell him what you require, and be willing to stay true to your needs even if he can't or won't meet them.
I second what Sheated wrote about protecting yourself against abuse, again, take care of yourself.
@ SwimmingLioness
When I told him that I had decided to date other people I told him with the intention of breaking it off.
He told me; fine I'll go 888k other 3itches then.
I replied with self respect; I didn't tell you I was going to 888k anyone, just that I'm going to go on a date.
He then said; THAT"S WORSE!
Which to me didn't really make any sense.
A couple of days after he tried really hard to reconcile.
and it was a really wonderful time that we had which confused me even more.
In the conversation that I told him I would date other people I did state clearly that I needed and required stability. But he doesn't have a stable job, stable place of living (he's moving), or stable life in general.
His concern is that he can not provide me with stability, if his own life is not stable.
However, my way of thinking (and what I told him directly) is that sometimes in life when you affirm stability in one area...everything else seems to fall into place...as you try to conquer and assume stability in other areas of life.
Thank you for the advice, I hear it and will definitely take it. 🙂
Once thing I am sure of (even though he might be confused and unsure) is that I love him wholeheartedly and I'm not sure what to do with this. But you are both right some time to reflect and time alone may solve this issue.
He sounds scared to lose you.
Being honest, my Scorpio and I have fought physically before. We fought DIRTY too. He's MUCH larger than me, but I'm a capable opponent because of my years in marital arts and strength in my legs. And being a Kinesiology major helps too 😉
We've addressed it over a year ago and we've set rules for ourselves in that matter.
It sounds like you two have not had a conversation about your relationship without guarding. You both NEED that for the relationship to have a chance to both be happy - alone or together.
Being honest, my Scorpio and I have fought physically before. We fought DIRTY too. He's MUCH larger than me, but I'm a capable opponent because of my years in marital arts and strength in my legs. And being a Kinesiology major helps too 😉
We've addressed it over a year ago and we've set rules for ourselves in that matter.
It sounds like you two have not had a conversation about your relationship without guarding. You both NEED that for the relationship to have a chance to both be happy - alone or together.
hahaha martial arts is awesome! He's always challenging me to karate fight. lol Without guarding? I don't understand, how so?
Guarding your heart. It's difficult for many Scorpio Suns and Moons to drop all defenses. I sense that with both of you.
It's just so difficult to deal with such extremes, one minute he says that he cares about me "like a person" which really hurts....because to me that means that that's all it is. Or that "it is what it is". But then If I decided to end it, "He really likes me, wants to continue and doesn't want me to be with anyone else". It's so confusing. He says that he has done things for me...which I see...that shows he cares about me above other girls, such as celebrating valentines day (which he claims he never willingly done before), or cook me dinner, or have a friend sleep over his home and him be courteous to her, or even little things like picking up his phone every time I call when sometimes I'm busy and miss his phone calls. But I don't know sigh...I guess I should reflect as you said and find out how exactly I could speak with him unguarded.
He definitely wants to be that man for her.
And what a Scorpion wants.. a Scorpion gets.
He will. He'll become that man, if he's really serious about that.
And what a Scorpion wants.. a Scorpion gets.
He will. He'll become that man, if he's really serious about that.
I've learned to never doubt a Scorpio's determination - it sometimes even surpasses my own (which is freaking titanium strong)!
@SwimmingLioness;
He's moving a borough away. We live in New York City. Distance is good for us. THat is true.
When he shouted about having sex with other women, I was just kind of confused because I was thinking;
"I never said I was going to have sex with anyone?" O_o
@sheathedclaws; Thanks pretty lady. You are possibly right. He actually cleaned his apartment, looked clean cut the last time I saw him, and then
spoke about wanted to go to grad school. Seemed strange sudden change to me.
@seraph; Clarity or purity of response? How so?
He's moving a borough away. We live in New York City. Distance is good for us. THat is true.
When he shouted about having sex with other women, I was just kind of confused because I was thinking;
"I never said I was going to have sex with anyone?" O_o
@sheathedclaws; Thanks pretty lady. You are possibly right. He actually cleaned his apartment, looked clean cut the last time I saw him, and then
spoke about wanted to go to grad school. Seemed strange sudden change to me.
@seraph; Clarity or purity of response? How so?
Ooh shoutout to the 917! NYC is 4 hours away and I try to make that trip often!
There's something about NYC that makes a New England girl swoon. 🙂
There's something about NYC that makes a New England girl swoon. 🙂
Well, she does love him. I've said similar before without keeping dates - just for reaction. 😉
Well it's was partly reaction but mostly integrity. I don't like being with more than one person at a time. I told him I was going on a date and then the day (after- and before the date) we ended up having dinner, wine, and spending the whole night/next day together. I had to cancel because I'm not going to be screwing someone and then going out on dates with other people at the same time. I wanted either one to be over before moving on, or to have something set in one and then cancel the other.
And I guess sheathie is right...I love him too. hehe
And I guess sheathie is right...I love him too. hehe
Posted by seraph
They said it might rain today. Almost did. We got a few drops, but it just stayed cloudy. Might rain tomorrow, though. I don't think I'll need a heavy jacket.
Maybe I'll get the umbrella ready just in case.
But I will say this: You sure are a fantastic EGO TRIP for him. And he knows it. This "relationship" is about who has emotional (leading to physical) control.
There's no clarity or purity of response. Now I don't always understand Scorpio behaviour around here enough
to analyze it effectively.
But I can smell *control* from next year.
+1 - The Leo/Scorpio relationship.
He doesn't want you but doesn't want anyone else to have what is currently "his". You're a huge ego trip, he is not emotionally available to you and is using you to have someone to fallback on. You tried an ultimatium on him, it backfired because you didn't get what you ultimately wanted, ultimatums are no good when there is only one answer that you want. Never ask a question that you can only have one answer to unless you are prepared to deal with the consequences. So here it is, he won't let you go unless you let yourself go, you've shown him that you will still stay around even though you have told him you are going to date again and balked at the last hurdle, now he sees how it is he will play you until he is tired of you, then he will be like "hurry up and get the fuck over this so I can move on". Move on now Sweat.Lioness. Have no doubt about it, he doesn't want you.
Posted by sheathedclaws
He sounds scared to lose you.
Being honest, my Scorpio and I have fought physically before. We fought DIRTY too. He's MUCH larger than me, but I'm a capable opponent because of my years in marital arts and strength in my legs. And being a Kinesiology major helps too 😉
We've addressed it over a year ago and we've set rules for ourselves in that matter.
It sounds like you two have not had a conversation about your relationship without guarding. You both NEED that for the relationship to have a chance to both be happy - alone or together.
oh yay!! i love women kicking ass. i did krav maga since i was 5 (my dad's an expert and i have 4 trained up brothers too). no-one fucks with us and yet we've never had to put our training into real practice as civilians. it's what i love most about martial arts in general...the philosophies that go with it and the fact that the way you conduct yourself is enough for people to know not to fuck with you 😛
as for you SL...it all sounds a bit like 'defining' time in your relationship and that is really confusing for a scorpio male if he doesn't feel he offers his woman 'stability'. his feelings pull him in one direction, ie he wants to be with you but the doubts about keeping you, bearing in mind his situation, make him see a bleak future for you both and so he probably has no clue how to move forward or what to do.
the way i know that is cos he said about you dating someone being worse than you having sex with them. as a scorp who has been cheated on, it wasn't the sex that hurt me....it was the intimate dinners...the hand holding...the closeness. he wants you to reserve those feelings for him although he STILL doesn't know what to do about the stability thing. this makes him come over as non-commital. remember he's got testosterone in the scorp mix and so there's a lot of male pride involved. scorp females are bad enough in that regard but the guys....! it's when they are capable of becoming martyrs to love cos sometimes he feels like you would be better off without him.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by sheathedclaws
He sounds scared to lose you.
Being honest, my Scorpio and I have fought physically before. We fought DIRTY too. He's MUCH larger than me, but I'm a capable opponent because of my years in marital arts and strength in my legs. And being a Kinesiology major helps too 😉
We've addressed it over a year ago and we've set rules for ourselves in that matter.
It sounds like you two have not had a conversation about your relationship without guarding. You both NEED that for the relationship to have a chance to both be happy - alone or together.
oh yay!! i love women kicking ass. i did krav maga since i was 5 (my dad's an expert and i have 4 trained up brothers too).click to expand
omfg I'm so jealous. It's almost impossible to find a good krav maga instructor around these parts!! Too cool 🙂
my pisces bro instructs in london. he says he's loved the recession cos the increase in street crime has brought lots of ladies to his classes. he's married to another pisces tho...he's taken but loves the attention which i guess would be his leo rising 😛
have you ever watched that old series on discovery channel 'human weapon'? awesome show which studies each of the arts and the krav one is soooo cool.
have you ever watched that old series on discovery channel 'human weapon'? awesome show which studies each of the arts and the krav one is soooo cool.
Posted by seraph
They said it might rain today. Almost did. We got a few drops, but it just stayed cloudy. Might rain tomorrow, though. I don't think I'll need a heavy jacket.
Maybe I'll get the umbrella ready just in case.
But I will say this: You sure are a fantastic EGO TRIP for him. And he knows it. This "relationship" is about who has emotional (leading to physical) control.
There's no clarity or purity of response. Now I don't always understand Scorpio behaviour around here enough
to analyze it effectively.
But I can smell *control* from next year.
omg what utter baloney! LMFAO at a LEO talking about EGO TRIPS and capitalised ones at that!!!
your ass must be sooooo jealous of your mouth seraph 😛
perhaps there's no clarity or 'purity of response' (which sounds like psycho babble) cos the guy just doesn't know what to do and bringing the prospect of other guys into the equation isn't gonna make him feel any more secure about the relationship. i mean it's a little like pressure don't you think? a sag used to do that to me and it always felt like he was laying down the gauntlet and saying that if i didn't choose him, he would see other people. i don't see why people have to define everything the whole time...all fire sign men are like that it seems..like they need to stake a claim.
grrrr...you dudes are so annoying sometimes! scorp mooners especially, mentioning no names but it's something to do with large size ladies' undergarments, lol.
it's not controlling. people get that wrong about scorps the whole time. we aren't consciously control freaks but it is on these kind of issues where perhaps we are so CONFUSED that it comes off as controlling. i know that the sag thought i was playing him cos i could never give him a straight answer.....cos i didn't HAVE a straight answer to give.
of course there's an element of 'cake and eat it too' in all this and it really isn't fair of him to be so vocal about his confusion cos it's not fair to share in this situation!! however, i don't believe what he says is intended to control her...i think he believes each thing he tells her for the duration he's saying it...not great but not as manipulative as you are suggesting.
anyway....the net result is the same. if there's any control to be seized...it' YOUR control in this situation OP, cos he's just flailing around and sucking you into his emotional mess....again not intentionally but it's what is going on nevertheless. the only way he will get his 'clarity' is if he's faced with the absolute knowledge that he has lost you. nothing bucks the ideas of a scorp up more than a bit of rejection.
of course there's an element of 'cake and eat it too' in all this and it really isn't fair of him to be so vocal about his confusion cos it's not fair to share in this situation!! however, i don't believe what he says is intended to control her...i think he believes each thing he tells her for the duration he's saying it...not great but not as manipulative as you are suggesting.
anyway....the net result is the same. if there's any control to be seized...it' YOUR control in this situation OP, cos he's just flailing around and sucking you into his emotional mess....again not intentionally but it's what is going on nevertheless. the only way he will get his 'clarity' is if he's faced with the absolute knowledge that he has lost you. nothing bucks the ideas of a scorp up more than a bit of rejection.
"May I ask what it is exactly that you're looking from him and why you think he can't
or won't provide it?"
@ Seraph; I was looking for stability; an acknowledgement of an actual relationship instead of bs, wasting time.
He assured me he isn't with other people and he doesn't want me to be with other people but I don't want that kind of "implied commitment" without "expressed commitment" a.k.a. relationship.
He said that he can't provide it because of his own instability, which is extremely apparent; i.e. he doesn't have a stable job. ( he does per diem jobs here and there), doesn't have a stable place of living (is moving), his takes care of family ( a responsibility imposed upon him by other family members to take care of a paralyzed dying family member), and you can even tell by his way of living ( messy clothes, messy apartment) that he isn't put together= stable. I can see how he can't offer stability when he isn't stable himself, and I could see why he would want to offer me stability when I am somewhat more stable than him.
However, my understanding is a little different. My understanding is that if you show commitment in one area in life, whether it be in a relationship, or even cleaning up a mess in your apartment...step by step a person can work on stabilizing the rest of their life. I also feel that this is the only way a person can truly be stable...by taking initiative and making commitments.
I fail at advice. -__- ::facepalm::
We saw each other yesterday and he grabbed my phone because it was sounding off the hook. He went through text messages of another person practically begging for a date. This enraged him to the point where he didn't even want to look at me. He also kept mentioning it repeatedly through the night.
I tried to tell him how it is, but honestly I'm not sure if it's registering but you guys are probably completely right.
I have a lot of paper work to do so I will finally be taking your advice and take some time away from him to reflect.
FOR REALZ THIS TIME.
Thank you for your input thus far. 🙂 Whether or not they are things "I want to hear", these are things that I probably should hear.
or won't provide it?"
@ Seraph; I was looking for stability; an acknowledgement of an actual relationship instead of bs, wasting time.
He assured me he isn't with other people and he doesn't want me to be with other people but I don't want that kind of "implied commitment" without "expressed commitment" a.k.a. relationship.
He said that he can't provide it because of his own instability, which is extremely apparent; i.e. he doesn't have a stable job. ( he does per diem jobs here and there), doesn't have a stable place of living (is moving), his takes care of family ( a responsibility imposed upon him by other family members to take care of a paralyzed dying family member), and you can even tell by his way of living ( messy clothes, messy apartment) that he isn't put together= stable. I can see how he can't offer stability when he isn't stable himself, and I could see why he would want to offer me stability when I am somewhat more stable than him.
However, my understanding is a little different. My understanding is that if you show commitment in one area in life, whether it be in a relationship, or even cleaning up a mess in your apartment...step by step a person can work on stabilizing the rest of their life. I also feel that this is the only way a person can truly be stable...by taking initiative and making commitments.
I fail at advice. -__- ::facepalm::
We saw each other yesterday and he grabbed my phone because it was sounding off the hook. He went through text messages of another person practically begging for a date. This enraged him to the point where he didn't even want to look at me. He also kept mentioning it repeatedly through the night.
I tried to tell him how it is, but honestly I'm not sure if it's registering but you guys are probably completely right.
I have a lot of paper work to do so I will finally be taking your advice and take some time away from him to reflect.
FOR REALZ THIS TIME.
Thank you for your input thus far. 🙂 Whether or not they are things "I want to hear", these are things that I probably should hear.
@WoundedLeo; hahahah! lol! :p
@R1g0rM0rT1s; Seraph might actually be onto something. It may be an issue of control. When I left this morning to head to work, Scorp said he doesn't want to find out about me 333king other people for "health/sanitary reasons". I was joking around saying; "what if I'm very careful?" and he replied in a manner where he basically concluded; what he doesn't know won't kill him. Scorp finally randomly told me at the last moment that he doesn't want me 333king anyone else at all, period.
@ Seraph; "here's quite a world of difference between the strong feelings of love that bind your heart to another, and the *practical and workable implementation of those feelings* to create a healthy relationship. Sometimes "love" is not enough. And keeping one's apartment clean and organized is not quite the same as managing a full-time relationship - one in which you're responsible for the other's heart, and one in which you must make your decisions in light of the other person. Your steps in whichever direction also affect *their* steps. That's quite a responsibility, and one needs to be ready for that. Those who aren't ready for it yet jump headlong into it because Love tells them to, will usually end up paying a hefty emotional price.
Sometimes the kind of love you want at the moment is just downright impractical in light of the other person's (in)ability to deliver."
I do understand this perspective. However, I also do realize that relationships are not set in stone. Just because one decides to commit to a stable relationship does not mean that the relationship will last forever. Many times in relationships people break up, and that is something I understand and am willing to risk. I am willing to risk the fact that in the future it may not work out, but am more concerned with working with a concrete present (I'm concerned with the now). Some people believe that a relationship is meant to lead into forever, my understanding is that a relationship is a learning and growing experience that may or may not lead into forever (with the possibility of forever or the possibility of learning and moving on).
"^^^^
Of course, there's a *chance* that if you put *even more* work into this relationship, and try even harder with all your might to understand him, and try to work on yourself to be *better for him*, that you and he might break some of the ice. But is it worth even *more* work? What's your Costs vs. Benefits analysis on this? Making some things work sometimes requires too high an emotional (and by extension, physical) price to pay. Is it really worth the effort? How much more of YOU are you willing to put on the sacrificial slab in order just to feel normal in this relationship.
Sometimes you need to cut your losses, be alone and just enjoy being yourself, without being in a relationship, and then start fresh.
By the time you really have to force a situation to work, it's no longer worth it. You'll just lose yourself in it."
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Sometimes the kind of love you want at the moment is just downright impractical in light of the other person's (in)ability to deliver."
I do understand this perspective. However, I also do realize that relationships are not set in stone. Just because one decides to commit to a stable relationship does not mean that the relationship will last forever. Many times in relationships people break up, and that is something I understand and am willing to risk. I am willing to risk the fact that in the future it may not work out, but am more concerned with working with a concrete present (I'm concerned with the now). Some people believe that a relationship is meant to lead into forever, my understanding is that a relationship is a learning and growing experience that may or may not lead into forever (with the possibility of forever or the possibility of learning and moving on).
"^^^^
Of course, there's a *chance* that if you put *even more* work into this relationship, and try even harder with all your might to understand him, and try to work on yourself to be *better for him*, that you and he might break some of the ice. But is it worth even *more* work? What's your Costs vs. Benefits analysis on this? Making some things work sometimes requires too high an emotional (and by extension, physical) price to pay. Is it really worth the effort? How much more of YOU are you willing to put on the sacrificial slab in order just to feel normal in this relationship.
Sometimes you need to cut your losses, be alone and just enjoy being yourself, without being in a relationship, and then start fresh.
By the time you really have to force a situation to work, it's no longer worth it. You'll just lose yourself in it."
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^^ my profession requires a lot of effort and commitment to not only others but self improvement. I have been trained and inevitably forced to put a strenuous amount of work for issues that can even be deemed to be "lost causes". Although I am willing to work on something that requires a strenuous amount of effort, I have been pretty much alone and my requirement for stability is based on the need for emotional support.
I do get this from the "relationship" but I also require emotional stability and firmness from scorp in order to be emotionally stable and firm in my own place in life.
If he can not provide this then you are right I should just remain alone and work on myself.
I guess I worry (along with my own issues of anxiety) that I am getting some sort of emotional support and my being alone will restrict me with the only bridge that is keeping me emotionally sound in my line of work.
However, I will definitely take your advice starting now. Especially because I need to concentrate and emerge myself in my line of work and do not have the time to press on the issue (for at least another month-in lieu of putting aside the issue to successfully work on the cases that lie upon my table).
Once again I very much appreciate your well though out and considerate advice/opinion/comments because they help me put things in another light and perspective. You are definitely right, although I may be more stable than him, I do need some time to myself to work on further stabilizing my own life. For we, as human beings, are a working progress.
I do get this from the "relationship" but I also require emotional stability and firmness from scorp in order to be emotionally stable and firm in my own place in life.
If he can not provide this then you are right I should just remain alone and work on myself.
I guess I worry (along with my own issues of anxiety) that I am getting some sort of emotional support and my being alone will restrict me with the only bridge that is keeping me emotionally sound in my line of work.
However, I will definitely take your advice starting now. Especially because I need to concentrate and emerge myself in my line of work and do not have the time to press on the issue (for at least another month-in lieu of putting aside the issue to successfully work on the cases that lie upon my table).
Once again I very much appreciate your well though out and considerate advice/opinion/comments because they help me put things in another light and perspective. You are definitely right, although I may be more stable than him, I do need some time to myself to work on further stabilizing my own life. For we, as human beings, are a working progress.
In addition; "And keeping one's apartment clean and organized is not quite the same as managing a full-time relationship."
This is definitely true. However, there are underlying issues of commitment, determination, order, and discipline that are reflected and link both keeping one's apartment and being in a full-time relationship. Being in a full-time relationship that requires commitment, determination/motivation, and discipline may make one realize that the reason for instability in other aspects of the person's life (whether it be professional spectrum, familial, or even being organized/tidy) is because these factors were lacking. Once a person realizes the factors ( or issues within themselves they have to work/improve on) that have been lacking, and how improvement has a positive beneficial affect in one area they can move on to other areas will this new found enlightenment.
For example in regards to organization.
A person can go their whole life wondering why they have issues with organization, why this factor is so difficult to achieve, how to go about achieving this and when the magic wand of luck will change their fate.
But there is no magic wand, rather if there was...the person who holds this magic wand is "you" and only "you" have the power to take the initiative and improve the self.
In the case of a disgruntled hard worker, that find themselves muffling through lost paper work and disorientation due to organization.
A good place to start is the bedroom.
Then the living room.
Then the kitchen.
Then the bathroom.
Then the folders in your office.
And afterwords a person may find that everything else falls delightfully into place.
However, you are right, some people can not possibly work this way. Some people need to start in different areas of life, such as profession, then familial, the romantic.
Awesome topic btw. 🙂
This is definitely true. However, there are underlying issues of commitment, determination, order, and discipline that are reflected and link both keeping one's apartment and being in a full-time relationship. Being in a full-time relationship that requires commitment, determination/motivation, and discipline may make one realize that the reason for instability in other aspects of the person's life (whether it be professional spectrum, familial, or even being organized/tidy) is because these factors were lacking. Once a person realizes the factors ( or issues within themselves they have to work/improve on) that have been lacking, and how improvement has a positive beneficial affect in one area they can move on to other areas will this new found enlightenment.
For example in regards to organization.
A person can go their whole life wondering why they have issues with organization, why this factor is so difficult to achieve, how to go about achieving this and when the magic wand of luck will change their fate.
But there is no magic wand, rather if there was...the person who holds this magic wand is "you" and only "you" have the power to take the initiative and improve the self.
In the case of a disgruntled hard worker, that find themselves muffling through lost paper work and disorientation due to organization.
A good place to start is the bedroom.
Then the living room.
Then the kitchen.
Then the bathroom.
Then the folders in your office.
And afterwords a person may find that everything else falls delightfully into place.
However, you are right, some people can not possibly work this way. Some people need to start in different areas of life, such as profession, then familial, the romantic.
Awesome topic btw. 🙂
OMG...please run away from this relationship. Take this from a Scorpio women who has a 15 year history in dating strictly scorpio men. Scorpio's have a great power of manipulation to be used for either the greater good or bad. Same goes with our possessive behavior.
All he is going to do is put you on a emotional roller coaster (by his own manipulation)just to get off on your reactions and to cause this big climax of drama to end in awesome sex which he uses as power. If he is accussing you of cheating (means he has the potential to do the same) and already belittling you to make you feel like a w4ore...then he already views you as weak. You are now going to be a toy to be played with. He will love you, possess you, ensure your whole world revolves around him but you will never be his equal in his eyes and he will continue to look for "the one" or the next best thing.
He is eventually going to walk all over you and consume you.
Question, who pursued who when this relationship initiated?
All he is going to do is put you on a emotional roller coaster (by his own manipulation)just to get off on your reactions and to cause this big climax of drama to end in awesome sex which he uses as power. If he is accussing you of cheating (means he has the potential to do the same) and already belittling you to make you feel like a w4ore...then he already views you as weak. You are now going to be a toy to be played with. He will love you, possess you, ensure your whole world revolves around him but you will never be his equal in his eyes and he will continue to look for "the one" or the next best thing.
He is eventually going to walk all over you and consume you.
Question, who pursued who when this relationship initiated?
@LadyScorpio; Hmnn interesting. Will think about this while taking a break. "Question, who pursued who when this relationship initiated?" I'm actually not really sure at all. It seems like we both pursued each other. It's funny we actually started off as a really random one night stand while I was really intoxicated - woke up, kind of forgot where I was (I know trashy- it's not something I do everyday- am only human) and saw some home made breakfast and coffee in front of me. I left something at his house - didn't realize it and kind of walked away not expecting to see him again and not really caring (or thinking much of it). He asked for my number before I left though. Then when I realized that I left something, he set up a date (where I thought I would just pick my stuff up) but he had a movie and dinner set up instead. After that it was a bunch of meet ups where I'd invite him places and he would too. It was my birthday around that time, so he made this whole big deal dinner that I didn't show up to because I thought it was a joke (since I just met him a little while before that). I took him to a couple of free events that I was going to also. So honestly I'm not really sure. If you ask him, he'll probably said I pursued him, but to tell you the truth I don't think I would have looked past that one day if he didn't do pursuing at first in his part either.
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my pisces bro instructs in london. he says he's loved the recession cos the increase in street crime has brought lots of ladies to his classes. he's married to another pisces tho...he's taken but loves the attention which i guess would be his leo rising 😛
have you ever watched that old series on discovery channel 'human weapon'? awesome show which studies each of the arts and the krav one is soooo cool.
hah! did you also know that increased heel length also occurs during recession? crazy! socioeconomically POV though, been there done that 😛
ey ey let's not hate on the Leo Rising; it's SO HARD with us being so heartbreakingly attractive (sheesh please take that with a rim of salt, a margarita, and a body shot!)
and no!! I'll have to search around a bit to watch it! thanks for the tip 🙂
while we're exchanging interesting thing 😛 I have an awesome link to documentaries that I came across during a research class.. http://documentaryheaven.com/<BR>
there's one on rabies that seems super interesting but I haven't gotten around to that one yet >.>
oh well....what do i know about a scorp's behaviour anyway, it's only my sun sign! obviously leos have superior knowledge on everything. goes without saying. silly me.
ofcourse that was @seraph 😛
btw, the scorp isn't being controlling by saying he doesn't wanna hear of you fucking anyone. he doesn't wanna hear it!! would you?? all he's saying is that if you're gonna, keep it to yourself which is more or less asking you not to do it just to get at him. i'm the same. i like to be oblivious and it's also why i don't snoop on people too cos it's a sure fire way of finding out something you rather wish you didn't. of course he doesn't want you to have sex with other people...what's controlling about that? he's not TELLING you not to or FORCING you not to. strikes me, you've introduced sex with others into your fight/disagreement/whatever it is that's going on with you two and you've done it cos you KNOW it will hurt him...you know how important it is to a scorp. we generally don't have sex just for the physical thrill of it and don't really get people who are capable of being casual about it and so it's a MASSIVE 'fuck you' to go straight out after a break up and hook up with someone else. it renders everything you had together as totally meaningless and tarnished and it's then beyond repair.
but what the eye doesn't see, the heart can't grieve over, in my view.
@sheathed...thanks for the link!! i am now in documentary heaven myself 😄
ofcourse that was @seraph 😛
btw, the scorp isn't being controlling by saying he doesn't wanna hear of you fucking anyone. he doesn't wanna hear it!! would you?? all he's saying is that if you're gonna, keep it to yourself which is more or less asking you not to do it just to get at him. i'm the same. i like to be oblivious and it's also why i don't snoop on people too cos it's a sure fire way of finding out something you rather wish you didn't. of course he doesn't want you to have sex with other people...what's controlling about that? he's not TELLING you not to or FORCING you not to. strikes me, you've introduced sex with others into your fight/disagreement/whatever it is that's going on with you two and you've done it cos you KNOW it will hurt him...you know how important it is to a scorp. we generally don't have sex just for the physical thrill of it and don't really get people who are capable of being casual about it and so it's a MASSIVE 'fuck you' to go straight out after a break up and hook up with someone else. it renders everything you had together as totally meaningless and tarnished and it's then beyond repair.
but what the eye doesn't see, the heart can't grieve over, in my view.
@sheathed...thanks for the link!! i am now in documentary heaven myself 😄
omg, i am a colossal bitch sometimes 😢
@ seraph; interesting observation. However, I don't believe I've been writing any contradictory details from board to board- if anything the details are consistent, and details that are not consistent are additional. But thanks for the observation. 🙂 And yeah it's probably time for a clean slate.
@ R1g0rM0rT1s; Cookiemonster? How ? O_o
@ R1g0rM0rT1s; Cookiemonster? How ? O_o
@DeadRinger; Thanks. 🙂
CL: i was so cranky this morning and spoiling for a fight so kinda resembled one of those old drunks you see with a bit of string around their dirty macs, staggering round the streets shouting abuse at everyone. exactly like that but without the alcohol. in the end, i realised who the target of my rant should have been (aries ex) and once i had vented accordingly, i felt sooooo much better. 🙂
seraph: the bad language doesn't bother me to be honest. i would rather say shit than butter, lol. and 'cookiemonster' is now way near rude enough sounding. besides, i am a cookie monster for real cos i LOVE them..specially the dough...nom nom.
this side of the atlantic, curse words are used like punctuation. in gibraltar, they randomly spatter every sentence with 'co?o' (meaning the other four lettered c word). like....me voy to morrisons co?o cos tengo que buy m??s de fags (i have to go to morrisons c**t cos i need to buy more cigarettes). LOL!! delightful people gibaltarians. they've corrupted not one but TWO languages!
seraph: the bad language doesn't bother me to be honest. i would rather say shit than butter, lol. and 'cookiemonster' is now way near rude enough sounding. besides, i am a cookie monster for real cos i LOVE them..specially the dough...nom nom.
this side of the atlantic, curse words are used like punctuation. in gibraltar, they randomly spatter every sentence with 'co?o' (meaning the other four lettered c word). like....me voy to morrisons co?o cos tengo que buy m??s de fags (i have to go to morrisons c**t cos i need to buy more cigarettes). LOL!! delightful people gibaltarians. they've corrupted not one but TWO languages!
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CL: i was so cranky this morning and spoiling for a fight so kinda resembled one of those old drunks you see with a bit of string around their dirty macs, staggering round the streets shouting abuse at everyone. exactly like that but without the alcohol. in the end, i realised who the target of my rant should have been (aries ex) and once i had vented accordingly, i felt sooooo much better. 🙂
seraph: the bad language doesn't bother me to be honest. i would rather say shit than butter, lol. and 'cookiemonster' is now way near rude enough sounding. besides, i am a cookie monster for real cos i LOVE them..specially the dough...nom nom.
this side of the atlantic, curse words are used like punctuation. in gibraltar, they randomly spatter every sentence with 'co?o' (meaning the other four lettered c word). like....me voy to morrisons co?o cos tengo que buy m??s de fags (i have to go to morrisons c**t cos i need to buy more cigarettes). LOL!! delightful people gibaltarians. they've corrupted not one but TWO languages!
LOL, we all have days like that, don't worry about it but glad to hear that the Aries got his 🙂 ew, the Gibraltans don't sound very nice!
gibbos are actually great people. well, i think so anyway cos i love nothing better than a bit of unbridalled rudeness. i love the way they start a sentence in bad spanish and smatter it with slang english, f-bombs and 'c' words, lol!! i love the look on the american tourists faces when their cruiseships dock on the rock. there was a significant contribution from the US in gibraltar during the second world war for which there are numerous monuments and statues. i think they expect the gibbos to be somewhat grateful for that but all they get is random abuse and ranting! i love them. the leo who is having the party is gibraltarian...omg, he's like a lion on acid that one!!
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