Leaders of Genocides in the 21st Century...

This topic was created in the Libra forum by MedullaOblongata on Friday, April 15, 2011 and has 12 replies.

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15 Years

This list entails some of the worst genocides of the 21st century, some of which deaths amounted in the 78 millions (Mao Ze-Dong), 23 millions (Stalin), 12 millions (Hitler), to 800,000 (Jean Kambanda) of the Rwanda genocide. All are a cause of conflicts such as: religious, political, or cultural beliefs. These genocides are an estimated of number of people killed by the orders of the leader, but however, do not reflect the indirect number of gross deaths from such: hunger, civilians.

Let's see what signs these leaders were... (I only listed genocides # of >100,000 body count)

Mao Ze-Dong: Dec. 26 (CAPRICORN)
Josef Stalin: Dec. 21 (SAGITTARIUS)
Adolf Hitler: Apr. 20 (ARIES)
Leopold II of Belgium: Apr. 9 (ARIES)
Hideki Tojo: Dec. 30 (CAPRICORN)
Ismail Enver: Nov. 22 (SAGITTARIUS)
Pol Pot: May 19 (TAURUS)
Kim Il Sung: April 15 (ARIES)
Menghistu: May 21 (GEMINI)
Yakubu Gowon: Oct. 19 (LIBRA)
Leonid Brezhnev: Dec. 19 (SAGITTARIUS)
Jean Kambanda: Oct. 19 (LIBRA)
Suharto: Jun. 8 (GEMINI)
Saddam Hussein: Apr. 28 (TAURUS)
Tito: May 7 (TAURUS)
Fumimaro Konoe: Oct. 12 (LIBRA)
Jonas Savimbi: Aug. 3 (LEO)
Idi Amin: Jan. 1 (CAPRICORN)
Yahya Khan: Feb. 4 (AQUARIUS)
Benito Mussolini: Jul. 29 (LEO)
Mobutu Sese Seko: Oct. 14 (LIBRA)
Charles Taylor: Jan. 28 (AQUARIUS)
Foday Sankoh: Oct. 17 (LIBRA)
Slobodan Milosevic: Aug. 20 (LEO)
Jean-Bedel Bokassa: Feb. 22 (PISCES)

Number of killing machines in each sign:

VIRGO - 0
CANCER - 0
SCORPIO - 0
PISCES - 1
AQUARIUS — 2
GEMINI — 2
CAPRICORN — 3
SAGITTARIUS — 3
ARIES — 3
TAURUS — 3
LEO — 3
LIBRA — 5

I'm really surprised that Libras came out on top most frequently. A sign that is supposed to be all about balance and justice being the most discriminant killers... eck. The contradiction.

What do you guys think?

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Posted by MedullaOblongata

I'm really surprised that Libras came out on top most frequently. A sign that is supposed to be all about balance and justice being the most discriminant killers... eck. The contradiction.

What do you guys think?

We came out in the lead because we are WINNERS!

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15 Years1,000+ PostsGemini

you judge too much...regardless of right or wrong on the world scae, according to you...you are right...

😛

that's my closet psychology for today 😉

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15 Years

I'm definitely not judging. If I were judging, I wouldn't be surprised of the results, I'd have expected you guys to be scumbags full of devious evil intent, etc, etc, etc.

I'm actually shocked and now curious.

Let's say we have an intellectual debate aside from the fact that you are a Libra and you may not like this statistic... For the sake of an amicable exchange, why do you think Libras came out most frequently? What inherent traits could possibly produce such results?

There is no pun intended whatsoever. I just want to delve into your thoughts.

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I'm not shocked by this. Libra's always think there right. If we can justify it - its right! If we thought it was for the greater good - its right. Just look at what Prime minister David Cameron is doing in the uk (October 14th birthday) and then look at what Margaret Thatcher (October 13th) did to the country a few decades ago. They always think they are right even when the whole country is screaming at them that they are wrong! Those damn third decans......haha

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Posted by LibraLuv
Libras brush stuff under the rug until they blow like a top on a tea kettle could have been part of the cause.

Posted by libra sun
I'm not shocked by this. Libra's always think there right. If we can justify it - its right! If we thought it was for the greater good - its right.

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A lot of truth right there. If these guys thought what they were doing was "right" they'd fight for it. It may start small but the more power they get the bigger their fighting becomes. I have no idea who most of these guys are and I'm not trying to justify what they did. But yeah if I have a bad idea and surround myself with people who either like the idea or are yes men, I could run way to far with it. They fed their own beliefs that they were right and they went as far as thier power let them.

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16 Years

Typical statistical manipulation.. and then the obligatory
"I'm just saying" follows..

(1)FYI..The 21st Century Started Jan 1, 2001

(2)Libra's are natural politicians, and many are in government,
so yes statistically they will be responsible for wars. Every war, even so-called
justifiable border wars become genocides.
We love to hold leaders responsible, let's face facts, all the people of each nation
are responsible. Every good Nazi was a bad person in my opinion. Grow a pair and
revolt against evil leaders when they start requesting that we violate normal ethics.

(3)Go off and add up deaths, instead of the silly ranking thing and then see which sun sign holds
the most responsibility.

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@Liberal777Libra
16 Years

and of course
Jimmy Carter, John Lennon, and Gandhi are well know war mongers..
Ever wonder how much violence has been averted by Librans,
from a person to person to international conflicts...

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Posted by Liberal777Libra
and of course
Jimmy Carter, John Lennon, and Gandhi are well know war mongers..
Ever wonder how much violence has been averted by Librans,
from a person to person to international conflicts...

I should have said "Imagine" instead of "wonder"
It's easy if you try..

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15 Years

Posted by Liberal777Libra

Typical statistical manipulation.. and then the obligatory
"I'm just saying" follows..

(1)FYI..The 21st Century Started Jan 1, 2001

(2)Libra's are natural politicians, and many are in government,
so yes statistically they will be responsible for wars. Every war, even so-called
justifiable border wars become genocides.
We love to hold leaders responsible, let's face facts, all the people of each nation
are responsible. Every good Nazi was a bad person in my opinion. Grow a pair and
revolt against evil leaders when they start requesting that we violate normal ethics.

(3)Go off and add up deaths, instead of the silly ranking thing and then see which sun sign holds
the most responsibility.

Don't get crazy, noone is accusing you of anything. This is the data I got from someone who studied wars and genocides. I Simply searched birthdates of the "already made list" so we can all look at it in a pseudoscience perspective.

The statistic is not to see the number of deaths but the leaders who propagated these deaths. Gad... why so defensive.

As for everyone else who responded, thank you for your insight, I think it makes a lot of sense. In another board, I also stated that Libras probably came out on top most because a lot of you guys are politicians, therefore, have a higher probability of exposure.

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15 Years

Posted by Nefer
OMG.. every single one of those five Libras are 3rd decans?! o.O

I know! And almost half of them are Cuspers! Isn't that bizarre? Internal conflicts, torn by opposing personalities/interests/povs/etc.

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Posted by LibraLuv
This is interesting Medulla Oblongata, oh and hello btw. I was particularily interested in Mobutu Sese Seko, simply because he and I share the same birthdate, aside from the year of course.

I believe you have to look into one's entire background in order to possibly determine the root cause of why they would commit such heinous acts/crimes. In briefly looking at his history it mentions he played devils advocate, in so many words. It would also appear as if he may have had some influence from the Army he was forcefully sent to, which may have caused some ill will feelings in him. Of course I'm just merely speculating on the (ill will) part, but that coupled with a known fact that most Libras brush stuff under the rug until they blow like a top on a tea kettle could have been part of the cause.

However, it made me dive a little deeper in wanting to know from an Astrological standpoint what was in his chart that would make him think the way he did versus me? What would cause him to vacillate between his intitial thoughts/plans of trying to improve/for the betterment of his country and lean towards annilihating people? Which sadly in the end (based on wiki) led to greed and cruelty. It appears that because his entire plan of 'improving his country for the betterment' was threatened by some other group trying to force control again (now in his adult life), and that may have triggered those same feelings from his childhood and too what caused him to 'Snap Poodle' 'Pushed his button' 'tapped danced on that wrong nerve' and made him just say kill 'em. Let's set an example and show them 'who's the boss/in control/who has the power.

Well, that's what I believe anyway.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobutu_Sese_Seko

Thanks for a nice read! Libraluv, hello to you as well! 🙂

Your post reminded me of this comment I heard in a documentary I recently watched, the lady said about how when someone has a taste of power, it is like having a taste of a drug, you slowly feign for more because your body grows tolerance, until your urges result in your demise, overdose.