The Libra's Man Cave

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so, in our condo we have an extra room. i already have a space for my office, small lab and woodworking etc. libra has is own office too. this extra room i decided to make him a man cave. 🙂 now, its a surprise, he thinks im doing some woodworking projects in there, which i am, i refinished this huge oak wood entertainment center, side tables, cabinet ( for liquour),book shelve (for video games) etc. anyways im almost done, i'm bringing my mom (interior designer)over from michigan to help me decorate it, while he goes on his yearly trip with his dad and brothers.

ok today i was out with a girlfriend, shopping for a reasonable leather reclining sectional. i love the smell of leather omg!!!! anyways on topic..she was hating the whole time. getting on my nerves. i was taking pictures of the different sectionals to send to my mom. so she can tell me which one to get. she kept saying dont get that, dont get this, this is not going to look good, why are you only making this about him—

umm duh its HIS man cave chic, what you talking about? so i just stop looking for stuff turned around to face her and asked her what was her problem...she said,

"i dont understand why you are spoiling him so much. you make everything about him. does he even appreciate it? why do you have to mother him?"

ok its just a man cave. im tired of him, his 4 bros, and 3 best friends coming over tearing up my damn living room. if i stick them in this huge room, the giants can tear up whatever they want. you know. all the furniture is durable.


what is her problem? she is so negative. and, she is a libra sun, aries moon. she is in a (according to her) great, even FANTASTIC relationship with an aries. so why all the hate?
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Posted by spica
maybe you think she sounds jealous? I'm not sure what she thinks, maybe next time take someone else alog for shopping trips.. unless you really trust her and you can ask her outright, "why the hate"?



idk maybe she had her period like 3e said. she is my shopping buddy. i always go shopping with her. i did ask why the hate and she told me i was mothering him. idk. i will talk to her again. see whats really going on. i didnt think she was jealous, just grouchy. maybe she doesnt like the smell of leather. idk..
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maybe the infamous 'balance', she wants you to get things for yourself as well? I mean maybe she thinks you're neglecting yourself..



yea she is all about balance. i would say this is true, if we didnt just come from getting manicure/pedicure. and we savaged the clearance rack at the levi store, and cleaned up at victoria secret.
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Sounds great ! 😉
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Bedrooms usually get taken over by women, so that counts.



lol, true, he looked a little apprehensive at the white lace pillows i made for the bed. but i needed something to breakup the navy blue. a woman does sleep there after all.

that seems fair ish, but frills, really?
Separate bathrooms is a good idea too.
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yes frills, at least it not flowers. 🙂 lol yea separate bathrooms would be great, for how long libra takes to shave, clip his armpit hair and toenails..ugh.
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I think thats your place and your libras, so a mancave would suit the need for space. maybe female libra isnt so keen on that concept. she'd prolly enter the cave frequently, just to make it gender neutral.. sometimes libra's balance can be ocd in a weird way. but note she isnt part of your relationship, you should be able to implement your choice decor



mmm yes i have seen this ocd behavior in her sometimes. but like you said it is my relationship. i do basically do what i want. i just wont have her go shopping with me on this project. since she seems to have problems with it. Mom it is...🙂
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Awww Chem...I think the man cave is such a nice surprise for your guy!!! 🙂 I would imagine he will
be stoked that you have taken the time to do something so thoughtful for him! If it also helps you
by keeping the boys and their toys away from other rooms then even better!

You certainly know your friend and if this would just not be the case with her but... She did sound
a bit jealous to me. Jealous of you and your Libra's relationship. Even if she claims that her and her
Aries are so great, it just still sounds classically like she needed to disparage your relationship for
some reason.

Accusing you of mothering him? Au contraire... making him a space to be separate from you is far
from mothering him imo.

If she is not engaged and is ready to be, perhaps that is where a bit of jealously is coming from? She
may not even be aware that she is slightly envious of your happiness, but it sounds like it from my
perspective.

Hopefully she was just having a bad day.
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You certainly know your friend and if this would just not be the case with her but... She did sound
a bit jealous to me. Jealous of you and your Libra's relationship. Even if she claims that her and her
Aries are so great, it just still sounds classically like she needed to disparage your relationship for
some reason.

Accusing you of mothering him? Au contraire... making him a space to be separate from you is far
from mothering him imo.

If she is not engaged and is ready to be, perhaps that is where a bit of jealously is coming from? She
may not even be aware that she is slightly envious of your happiness, but it sounds like it from my
perspective.

Hopefully she was just having a bad day.



thats what i was thinking too sillyfilly that making a man cave is not mothering him. They delivered the sofa today OMG my house smells like LEATHER!!! I LOVE IT OMG!!✨clears throat* sorry about that...
you know after knowing her for as long as i have, i dont expect jealousy. but i guess thats just me being naive. because im not jealous of my friends. i love them. 😢

last night at the bachelorette/hen party she was avoiding me...at first i thought it was my guiness going to my head fast..but no she was avoiding me. so my gem bff, yelled across the table, " wats your prob girl? " and she told us nothing. so i left it alone. i didnt want to add any funky moods to my friends party. so i ignored it. we will see how she acts at the wedding in 2 hours. for some reason i have a bad feeling about all this.
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Hahaha... I happen to love the smell of leather too!! 🙂

There is a man's cologne that has that as one of its components- I'll
have to try and recall the name of that one and send it to you. Maybe
you can smell it while you are out shopping and see what you think...

Back to your friend...Seems something is really bothering this girl!

Whatever it is, it sounds like a problem within her life, perhaps something she
isn't really acknowledging yet, something she is letting get to her presently and
it's causing her to project that onto others.

I am not jealous of my friends either, I want them all to have the best in their lives!
I've never seen how anyone else's triumphs could possibly hamper my ability to
have my own happiness.

But you know the old saying..."misery loves company"

I'll look forward to hearing what becomes of this situation.

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as for my friend at the wedding she was quite. while we were getting our hair done the bride notice she was in a mood. tried to get her to tell what was up. but she just continued to say nothing. im thinking she didnt want to take the spotlight. so she said nothing.
when we were alone, i was trying to help her pull up her girdle. she said she really thought she would be engaged by now. and she said it really hit her when i of all people got engaged that she is in a slump.

now i didnt take the part of me being engage before her as an insult. but that"you of all people" remark, didnt like that at all.

anyway, i let that go, told her she need to talk to her aries man. and after reading what ALibra said about her aries putting on the breaks till he gets him self together. i asked her about that. she said that wasnt the case, he just got a promotion at work. so he is doing well. so she said we can talk more about it tomorrow, im meeting her at the mall.

she said she is happy for us...and i could tell in her face she was. but she wants to be married, so i dont know what the aries problem is.

i will keep ya posted.
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maybe the infamous 'balance', she wants you to get things for yourself as well? I mean maybe she thinks you're neglecting yourself..



yea she is all about balance. i would say this is true, if we didnt just come from getting manicure/pedicure. and we savaged the clearance rack at the levi store, and cleaned up at victoria secret.



Sounds great ! 😉
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oh it was, i love my pedicure, my toes look great🙂 and we cleaned up at the levi store clearance rack, i got a jean jacket for $ 18 and 2 shirts for $ 9.00 each 😄 regular price was $ 30- $ 40 each for all of them, i think. they had a sale on the smell goods at victoria secret too. 😄
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she said she is happy for us...and i could tell in her face she was. but she wants to be married, so i dont know what the aries problem is.

i will keep ya posted.


Awww. The Aries is gonna love you guys for that ! 🙂
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LOL yea well after 9 years, you kind of wonder if its ever going to happen. since she was with him, i thought she was fine with the arrangement they had. guess not.
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Okay Chem- off the topic here but the particular scent I was referring
to (I know bunches of them try to have that leather essence in some
way) is Clive Christian C for men. Yummy!



thank you! im going to the mall tomorrow. i can just spray it in the house whenever i want 😄 shoot i will wear it. just so i can smell it. mmmm
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Hahaha- I'm not sure you would want to use this one to spray in your room...it's
pretty pricey!! But it doesn't take much and smelled incredible on my guy friend
that used to wear it! 🙂
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she said she is happy for us...and i could tell in her face she was. but she wants to be married, so i dont know what the aries problem is.

i will keep ya posted.


Awww. The Aries is gonna love you guys for that ! 🙂
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Right!!! 🙂

Poor unsuspecting Aries guy may find himself not only without a man cave,
but with his whole deal being shaken up.

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Okay Chem- off the topic here but the particular scent I was referring
to (I know bunches of them try to have that leather essence in some
way) is Clive Christian C for men. Yummy!



thank you! im going to the mall tomorrow. i can just spray it in the house whenever i want 😄 shoot i will wear it. just so i can smell it. mmmm





Hahaha- I'm not sure you would want to use this one to spray in your room...it's
pretty pricey!! But it doesn't take much and smelled incredible on my guy friend
that used to wear it! 🙂
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mmmmm i smell so good. since this is purely for my aromatic satisfaction 😄 i bought the smallest bottle they had. and sprayed it on myslef. the sales lady was looking at me like i was crazy. i dont care i smell goooood. thanks again mmm

my fiance is giving me that look that he always gives me when he thinks im being weird.

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well i talked to her and she apologized for her behavior. she said she was feeling bummed out about not being engaged yet. she talked to the aries and he said he thought everything was fine. he said she just wanted to get married to catch up with the jones'. so they had an argument. he even said," if they jump off a cliff would you?" she told him, " they are to in love with life for that to even happen". see why i love her

so yea its an issue. she said her issue is with him not me.

she made that comment about mothering him, because thats what she feels she has been doing with aries. she said she doesnt feel that he appreciates it any more or she is just tired of doing things for a man thats not her husband. idk..

so yay! got my friend back. im happy to know whats wrong. i told her im here for her no matter what.

thanks everyone for your help.
im working hard on this man cave. i got a solid wood pool table at a thrift store for $ 50. they are usually $ 300- $ 400. i have to buy new cue balls it doesnt have any, but it has all of the sticks. im going to sand the table and stain it a dark walnut.

its hard sneaking this stuff in here.
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well i talked to her and she apologized for her behavior. she said she was feeling bummed out about not being engaged yet. she talked to the aries and he said he thought everything was fine. he said she just wanted to get married to catch up with the jones'. so they had an argument. he even said," if they jump off a cliff would you?" she told him, " they are to in love with life for that to even happen". see why i love her

so yea its an issue. she said her issue is with him not me.

she made that comment about mothering him, because thats what she feels she has been doing with aries. she said she doesnt feel that he appreciates it any more or she is just tired of doing things for a man thats not her husband. idk..

so yay! got my friend back. im happy to know whats wrong. i told her im here for her no matter what.

thanks everyone for your help.
im working hard on this man cave. i got a solid wood pool table at a thrift store for $ 50. they are usually $ 300- $ 400. i have to buy new cue balls it doesnt have any, but it has all of the sticks. im going to sand the table and stain it a dark walnut.

its hard sneaking this stuff in here.



I can identify with this. Seeing all your friends get married can be a tough thing- especially when you are in your own relationship. It brings on "why not me?" "what's wrong with me?" thoughts. Those thoughts will subside though- she'll get her perspective back, I'm sure. 🙂
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That's a pretty good bargain you got there and it sounds like it's in good nick too.
I'd think a pool table isn't all that discreet too so it's bound to be a bit difficult to sneak it anywhere lol.



i couldnt bring it in the house its still in my truck 😢 libra will not go anywhere until the weekend, he's dealing with a lot at work so he comes straight home, eat, and sleep on the couch. grrrrrrr. i need to get it in here. i have my weekend shopping trip. i gotta be more crafty. may have to call in reinforcements to get him out. but i dont want his brothers to know😢 before he does. sucks sucks sucks!
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I can identify with this. Seeing all your friends get married can be a tough thing- especially when you are in your own relationship. It brings on "why not me?" "what's wrong with me?" thoughts. Those thoughts will subside though- she'll get her perspective back, I'm sure. 🙂




see and i didnt understand that it was this, because i didnt feel that way. when the others got engaged. marriage wasnt on the top of my list. i guess i was the icing on the cake and she couldnt take it anymore. happy i understand now. your times coming too. 🙂
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@Chem- You got the Clive Christian?!?! YAY!!
I'm glad you liked it!! Scents are so individual, but I
loved this one!! 🙂

And a pool table!!! I have to admit I'd be sneaking into the
man cave!! Add a good poker game, I'd really have to disguise
myself and get in on the action!! No wonder I have so many
male friends, huh!

When does the libra get to see it—

I'm so happy that your friend was able to talk to you finally! It is much
easier when they just fess up to what's bothering them! Good friends are
so important!!
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@Chem- You got the Clive Christian?!?! YAY!!
I'm glad you liked it!! Scents are so individual, but I
loved this one!! 🙂

And a pool table!!! I have to admit I'd be sneaking into the
man cave!! Add a good poker game, I'd really have to disguise
myself and get in on the action!! No wonder I have so many
male friends, huh!

When does the libra get to see it—

I'm so happy that your friend was able to talk to you finally! It is much
easier when they just fess up to what's bothering them! Good friends are
so important!!



yes i have the cologne on now. LOL.....had some interesting experiences so far. my gem bff kept sitting real close to me sniffing me. im like, "oook i like you too, but umm individual space..hello." and my fiance just keeps looking at me in a weird way. its so funny seeing his facial expressions when he is trying to figure me out. so much easier to ask, but that kind of takes the fun out of it. 🙂

oh oh i was in the elevator, and this lady got in. she was like, what did the guy look like that had that cologne on? do you smell that..its intoxicating....LOL ha ha ha i just said i dont know.

i dont have on a lot. i spray one time on the inside of my wrist and thats it.

oh well..im intoxicating LMAO 🙂




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And a pool table!!! I have to admit I'd be sneaking into the
man cave!! Add a good poker game, I'd really have to disguise
myself and get in on the action!! No wonder I have so many
male friends, huh!

When does the libra get to see it—





yea that pool table was a steal. i sanded it last night so i can stain it tonight. he will be able to see it next sunday. i bought most of the decorations. his mom gave me a fridge, the old ones with one handle on it. so they can have beer, etc. i bout a round table that converts to a poker table. but you know im not 'allowed' to play poker all the time, when his bros come over. his dad said they told him i win to much. LOL..sore losers...i play to win man, cant help it.

lol@at you wearing a disguise to get in. mmm idea.

After my mom comes on friday i will take pics of the finish product 🙂