Are you for or against the death penalty and why?

Put your thoughts here please..!

The fact that killing a murderer wont bring back the victim, what is your opinion on this case..? There are lot of —unknown?? chemicals —working for?? or —working against?? in human body!

Do we have a —right?? to —taking away?? a person??s life —simply because he/she did something wrong?? in —our legal system?? ..?

For it. If it is proved beyond any doubt that the person is guilty. Heinous crime should have retribution. That's not the warm, cuddly side of me, that is the Ancient demanding blood for blood.
I also think that punishments should be harder for crimes against women and children. No 'get out of jail free' card. A lot of these people that go to jail serve their time quietly imagining repeating the action when they are free.

Venusianbull

No one born (criminal) or (evil), like I said??_. There are lot of —unknown?? chemicals —working for?? or —working against?? in human body!..


Will you judge and murder someone (with wrong combination of those —chemicals??) in his /her body..?

I am not talking about those with a medical condition, I was answering original query sans second post. In that case I think medical care for the remainder of their life. Not back in society. There are so many studies about chemical imbalances, mental illness and the like. But in the judicial system here it is overused for the criminals benefit. A murderer that can plan, plot and carry out being a predator for years is not insane. They are calculated, cold and very much aware of what is going on. And if they were off kilter enough to not know the difference they wouldn't hide their actions.

Personally I'm 100% opposed to the death penalty because I think that we as humans really ought to get our priorities in order, and learn that murder was never right and never will be right and answer me this??_..if we kill a killer is that right??

??_??_No it's not because 2 wrongs Do Not make a right and never will.

Although please don't get me wrong, killers, rapists, child abusers are the scum of the earth, in my opinion and should be 100% punished but I feel that murder (because that's what the death penalty is... Murdering a fellow human being) is wrong and will always be wrong and something that we as humans should be matures enough to realize.

Or else, we??ll get back to my original hate of Americans??_!

Who gave —right?? to the American people to murder 200,000 people in Japan in split second..?? and be proud of their actions..?

Mixed feelings.

I don't care about it being 'wrong' to kill another person, when said person has committed an extremely violent murder, however, I sometimes wonder if death is too easy a punishment...although, knowing exactly when and how you're going to die and having to spend years in a cell waiting for that dreadful day is perhaps excruciating....I don't know.


The only thing that stops me from being 100% for it is the fact that in many cases, there is no way to know FOR SURE that the person is in fact, guilty. With all the recent exonnerations due to DNA testing (and most happen to be BLACK...coincidence? I don't think so), one has to question the judicial system.

Eye witness testimony is virtually useless, with all that we know about it, and yet, it can still get people convicted.

Without DNA samples, AND undeniable evidence, there is no way a jury can honestly convict 'without a shadow of doubt'.


I don't know.

I can never make up my mind on this one...
but what I do know is those completely opposed to it should have a better solution to suggest if they feel so strongly about it.

They would rather they rot in jail.

MsPisces.

Thank you for your wisdom and comment on this post??_ the fact is??_(WE DON??T KNOW)..! why would we act on something that (we don't know anything about it)..??

Q,

If you knew FOR SURE that a person committed a horrible murder, would you still be against that person being put to death?

Look at it this way??_ I have two kids.. one of them or both of them are being murdered in what ever scenario!...

Do I have a right to kill the murderer as some form of —punishment??..?? Will this action brings back my beloved kids..?

Posted by MsPisces.
They would rather they rot in jail.

While we pay for them to live...

MsPisces.

The mental/spiritual pain of —lost beloved?? is there??_! But, you can not —get back?? what you??ve lost?? and you know it..

Again??_. —Murdering acts upon murdering acts?? gives you any satisfactions..??

Although different sources give slightly different statistics, ONE inmate costs around $ 30,000 per YEAR.
So lock them up for life and pay for them to live. That's a MUCH better solution. :/


Either way, you can't shrug it off as: "no one is born evil," or they have a chemical imbalance...they will act violently again & next time it could be your loved one...I bet then you'd have a different opinion.

"Again??_. —Murdering acts upon murdering acts?? gives you any satisfactions..??"


Perhaps just a sprinkle of satisfaction? Seeing justice served won't make the pain go away, but Im sure those parents would still choose to make the person pay, regardless.

I don't know Q. Luckily, I haven't lost a child to murder. And no, killing them won't bring the child back, but one can also argue that letting them rot in jail won't bring them back either, so why not just set them free?


I understand your point, but the human in me deeply empathizes with parents, especially, who lose children to violent murder. I just can't fathom what that feels like....and I can totally understand wanting the bastard to be tortured to death. Even if it isn't 'right' or won't make the pain go away, I think those parents should still have the right to see them die.


Every time I hear about those children going missing, only to be found dead weeks later, my heart bleeds. That is the worse thing a human will ever endure. In cases like that where the murderer is known for a fact (which is rare), I am all for the death penalty.

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Posted by MsPisces.
They would rather they rot in jail.

While we pay for them to live...

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If I'm not mistaken, a system with a death penalty is a lot more expensive than a system without one.

Well right now, probably, considered they sit in prison for like 30 years before we finally cut them off.

Right. So the entire process in and of itself is very expensive.

I bet then you'd have a different opinion.



You bet I am??_

Why are you having 3x of the whole Norwegian inhabitants in jail..? Why the Americans are having death penalties while barfing on democracies and equalities..??

No one is perfect, but set your stupid standards as you call it "our way of life?? as the world regulations and standards..??

I used to be strongly against it too. Trust me. I was like that's stupid...taking a life to show that taking a life is wrong....what kind of assbackwards shit is that?

I thought you should try to rehabilitate people first and give them a chance - people make mistakes and they can learn from them...
But as my Libra always says to me "Bri pull your head out of your ass...the world is not the perfect world you live in..."
Reality is the world isn't perfect, and things don't usually work out that way.

Posted by Qbone
I bet then you'd have a different opinion.



You bet I am??_

Why are you having 3x of the whole Norwegian inhabitants in jail..? Why the Americans are having death penalties while barfing on democracies and equalities..??

No one is perfect, but set your stupid standards as you call it "our way of life?? as the world regulations and standards..??

Language barrier. You totally misread what I said and threw up some crazy shit all over the screen in which I have no idea what you're talking about.............. :/ sorry

So??_??_.. killing the jailers (is the solutions) to the failed economy..??

Posted by Qbone
So??_??_.. killing the jailers (is the solutions) to the failed economy..??

Well if they're dead we don't have to pay for them anymore. :/

That sounded shitty .

That sounded shitty .


What is sounded —shitty??..??

Language barrier. You totally misread what I said and threw up some crazy shit all over the screen in which I have no idea what you're talking about.............. :/ sorry



Please??_ don't take —language barrier?? in here; I am perfectly capable of to handle both the (American English) and the (British English)...

Murdering acts has nothing to do with (the LANGUAGE)...

depends on the crime against a child a long slw death such as crucifixion, other crimes maybe confinment but with no contact with other human beings. By the by I am an atheist but I am against abortion as a means of birth control. I also believe you can not dictate morality to people.

I am not going to fight against you opinions on this matter it is yours and should be respected..!

Aw that's sweet of you.... ?
Lol 🙂

JT??_My —lost partner?? ..

I also believe you can not dictate morality to people.

I am surprised.. you really mean that..??


What the hell is —Moralities??..??

Do meant —by any chance?? ethics..??

capital punishment = murder

if it's wrong for me today, it's wrong for me in the face of personal tragedy as well.

killing someone as a punishment for crimes is archaic.

the US, as it stands, has made crime and punishment an industry anyway so it wouldn't surprise me that a grand majority of Americans have skewed views on what to do with criminals.

when a person carrying excessive amounts of cocaine gets a mandatory sentence and can be in jail for 10 years or more, but a person who brutally molests an infant/child can get off on probation, there's clearly something wrong with the system. but hey, no one cares about the flawed nature of it until it impacts them.

—Ethics?? are HUMAN made.. —you don't do what I don't like and I would do the same—?_

Moralities are different beast to handle though; it has something to do with the —upbringing in human societies?? ..!

Right now in this topic we are talking about the illegal (punishments) to (death as follow)..


Keep the TOPIC alive..

Tate, I'm aboard with the crucifixion idea. Or a little 'alone time' with the victims family.

I have children as well, Q, the idea of anyone harming a hair on their heads is abhorrent to me. Nothing would bring back a loved one in such an instance, but there would be too much moving within and without and YES justice, retribution, punishment would definitely come to the fore.
I weep with every report of a crime against a child. I cannot imagine what poisoned well of a brain could come up with such a thing.

Tubby, the system is beyond fookered up, for the reasons you stated and so much more. It's all ass backwards and the system is tied up with petty nonsense when it should be addressing much bigger issues.

'Moralities' are subject to each and every individual and comes not only from the rearing of us, but also our viewpoints as adults. Inner workings of what we feel is right and wrong. I ( nor anyone for that matter ) can sway another human being from that.