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Douche who shot Cecil the lion...
Aside from the fact that I think he has psychological problems...I don't think they can prove he did anything illegal...he paid for a trophy hunt and that's what he got. It was the guides job to guide him...that's what they pay them for.
Its hard for people to see facts though when they have such an emotional response to the fact that an animal was killed for no good reason
Its hard for people to see facts though when they have such an emotional response to the fact that an animal was killed for no good reason
(my father is a hunter...I have nothing against hunters...but he eats what he kills or he doesn't kill it.)
Guilty of poaching.
He won't ever face justice though.
He did it before:
" Following the incident, court documents emerged showing Palmer was fined $ 3,000 and given a year's probation after pleading guilty over the illegal killing of a black bear in Wisconsin in 2006.
Palmer had a permit to hunt bears within a certain area near Phillips, in the north of the state. But on September 1, 2006, he was part of a group of people who killed a black bear 40 miles outside this permitted zone, according to the court documents from April 2008. "
Same story this time. He knew the exact lion he was after.
He won't ever face justice though.
He did it before:
" Following the incident, court documents emerged showing Palmer was fined $ 3,000 and given a year's probation after pleading guilty over the illegal killing of a black bear in Wisconsin in 2006.
Palmer had a permit to hunt bears within a certain area near Phillips, in the north of the state. But on September 1, 2006, he was part of a group of people who killed a black bear 40 miles outside this permitted zone, according to the court documents from April 2008. "
Same story this time. He knew the exact lion he was after.
If I had the time and the means, I would hunt him down too with a high powered rifle (I don't rule out the possibility if I ever manage to get out of my job).
Same thing for the Trump boys.
It's just sport after all.
This guy's life is a lot less valuable than the lion's life, and this is not emotion speaking, it's just cold hard fact.
so why not?
Same thing for the Trump boys.
It's just sport after all.
This guy's life is a lot less valuable than the lion's life, and this is not emotion speaking, it's just cold hard fact.
so why not?
Posted by MsFisksame. i dont get trophy hunting either. i think, personally it's very very cold. lack of compassion for animals.
I dont get trophy hunting. You dont kill them for food nor were they attacking anyone. Men with small duck trying to prove something. For $ 55K you can just get a few hookers to stroke your ego AND penis
i understood why they did it (permission to hunt) in the U.S. and other areas, to keep the population of animals down.
overrun of deer can be very bad.
my ex's were hunters, too, i remember. One of them hunted for food, not pleasure. He could buy food in the supermarket, he wasn't starving for food or anything, but he just wanted to "hunt" for the pleasure, and to taste the flesh of certain animals. Gives me creepies. *bbbrrrr*
Posted by Finbuffwell i notice that some countries who should be "hunting" aren't hunting type of people/indviduals/groups of people. Not all....but well.
Yeah right, Lions life worth more than a human. IQ above 60, or not so much?
Hunting brings tourism to a relatively impoverished country. Ban hunting and nobody goes there. Not on my bucket list of places to visit considering there's at least 500 other places I'd rather go. OK - maybe closer to a thousand.
for example, India. You won't see them taking down a cow... Lots of cows walking around i read/heard. (of course theý're dominantly vegetarian)
Yeah I mean it's really pathetic...no arguing trophy hunting is unethical...but it's not illegal.
And I know a charter fishing captain...it's his license when he takes people out...he's the one responsible for what is caught and kept...not his customers who have paid him to take them fishing.
So really, it's on the guide who held the lion hunting permit and accepted this man's money to guide him.
Unfortunately it's not a crime to be a huge douche
But what's sort of funny is he paid 50k to do somerying, that although is unrelated to his career, may very well ruin it.
And I know a charter fishing captain...it's his license when he takes people out...he's the one responsible for what is caught and kept...not his customers who have paid him to take them fishing.
So really, it's on the guide who held the lion hunting permit and accepted this man's money to guide him.
Unfortunately it's not a crime to be a huge douche
But what's sort of funny is he paid 50k to do somerying, that although is unrelated to his career, may very well ruin it.
Posted by Prince_Pisces
Omg Briana, this is one of the only news stories that actually made me sad
I know I'm sorry
Posted by FinbuffWhat are you talking about?
Yeah right, Lions life worth more than a human. IQ above 60, or not so much?
Hunting brings tourism to a relatively impoverished country. Ban hunting and nobody goes there. Not on my bucket list of places to visit considering there's at least 500 other places I'd rather go. OK - maybe closer to a thousand.
Posted by GetMistedOk..........but what does that have to do with my question of whether or not this was poaching?Posted by brianafaylolPosted by FinbuffWhat are you talking about?
Yeah right, Lions life worth more than a human. IQ above 60, or not so much?
Hunting brings tourism to a relatively impoverished country. Ban hunting and nobody goes there. Not on my bucket list of places to visit considering there's at least 500 other places I'd rather go. OK - maybe closer to a thousand.
I think what he is trying to say is..
Trophy hunting creates a revenue stream for an impoverished area, where without it, there would likely be none. This means that the life of the animal being hunted is far less important than the people that inhabit the area.click to expand
Right, but that's not what he/she said lol
Also, does anyone know if the lion was protected?
No I am very capable of reading and I comprehend what they are saying, but I wasn't sure what relevance trophy hunting being profitable has with whether or not this douche should be held legally responsible or not
Zimbabwe seems to think it wasn't a legal kill ...they arrested the guide already didn't they?
Posted by MsFiskYes 🙂 thank you
Is that what you were asking?
I just googled and several reports are referring to Cecil as "protected" since he was living on the preserve and was being monitored as part of their study.
So, not a legal kill then. Regardless is they had a permit to hunt lions...you can't lure a protected lion off the preserve and kill it
Posted by MsFiskYeah, and if they didn't know at the time of shooting the lion that it was protected, they realized it after they tracked it down and removed its collar and tried to destroy the evidence! 😢
It didn't specify. He did or maybe the guides did. It's probably part of the investigation.
It was wearing a fucking collar!!!
Omg I'm mad now
Omg I'm mad now
Posted by SsupesPeople who do that kind of shit need to be psychologically evaluated...same type of disorder serial killers have, except they just haven't had the balls to move onto humans yet - they prefer helpless animals
The term "trophy hunting" means to kill an animal or catch a fish worthy of legal record.
This asshole just killed a lion for the fuck of it. Same with killing Rhinos and Elephants.
Posted by GetMistedI don't think they can. But, they can prove that once they realized what they had done (assuming they really didn't know all along) instead of reporting it, they tried to hide/cover up...which makes them look guilty as fPosted by brianafayHow can you prove that they actually lured him though? It's a legal kill if you can't prove that.Posted by MsFiskYes 🙂 thank you
Is that what you were asking?
I just googled and several reports are referring to Cecil as "protected" since he was living on the preserve and was being monitored as part of their study.
So, not a legal kill then. Regardless is they had a permit to hunt lions...you can't lure a protected lion off the preserve and kill itclick to expand
Like a hit and run. Accidents aren't illegal until you don't own up to it
Posted by RabbitYeah, well, this type of hunting - involving endangered animals - was already controversial and lawmakers have gone back and forth about whether or not it should even be legal... so hopefully this lion with a name will help being more attention to it and make a difference.
Pretty shitty.
Thing is though...this happens scores of times every day by poachers so body parts could be turned into tea by Chinese men who think it will enlarge their dick. And no one talks about that. But this lion had a name, so it tugged at American heartstrings.
Maybe we need to name them all. Then maybe the 1st world will care.
I can't believe that it is even legal to kill an endangered animal with a permit...they're protected, but not from rich assholes with a piece of paper giving them permission.
Posted by RabbitlmaoPosted by GetMistedNo joke. My wife and I are in a shop in Chinatown looking at actual tea and the lady in the shop starts talking to her about some crazy animal body part tea that was for "virility". Long story short these Chinese women think it makes the men "big like white man but make white man big like black man".Posted by Rabbitlol
Pretty shitty.
Thing is though...this happens scores of times every day by poachers so body parts could be turned into tea by Chinese men who think it will enlarge their dick.
And no, we didn't buy it LOL.click to expand
Posted by MsFiskgod, why are oversized things so ugly?
Posted by Arielle83annoying right?
I like reading the articles on Cecil and then reading the comments. All crazy Americans debating on the comments and bringing up other things like "oh an animal died, but babies are dying everyday from abortions"
Or
"I wish I could take that dentist and hunt him down"
Followed by "look at the sensitive pussies crying over a lion they never even met"
Then some idiot chumming in
" as if a human life isn't worth more than an animals"
And last but not least
" you've got black kids getting gunned down by cops everyday and you fools are worried bout a lion in Africa"
"But babies are being aborted and you care about a lion!?"
HahahahAahaha
Can't get enough
Walter J. Palmer is a COWARD, who laid full blame for the illegality of the hunt, on his guides. He is someone who inflicts pain and suffering on some of Earth's most beautiful creatures, for personal glory and ego. I am sickened by this depraved, cowardly f***tard.
Responsible hunters use swift killshots that do not cause suffering. Cecil was alive and suffering up to 40 hours (almost 2 full days) after Palmer’s initial, bow-and-arrow shot failed to kill Cecil. It was only because of the GPS collar Cecil wore, that allowed Oxford to track down his carcass (the remains of a beheaded and skinned body. Palmer and his guides tried to destroy the collar.
Cecil’s 6 cubs will likely be killed by the next male to take over his pride. His line will be extinguished. This is so devastating because only an estimated 20,000 African lions survive today.
Real and ethical hunters, "eat what they kill". Sorry for the gruesome photo, but this is an example of what Palmer left behind:
Responsible hunters use swift killshots that do not cause suffering. Cecil was alive and suffering up to 40 hours (almost 2 full days) after Palmer’s initial, bow-and-arrow shot failed to kill Cecil. It was only because of the GPS collar Cecil wore, that allowed Oxford to track down his carcass (the remains of a beheaded and skinned body. Palmer and his guides tried to destroy the collar.
Cecil’s 6 cubs will likely be killed by the next male to take over his pride. His line will be extinguished. This is so devastating because only an estimated 20,000 African lions survive today.
Real and ethical hunters, "eat what they kill". Sorry for the gruesome photo, but this is an example of what Palmer left behind:
On our TV they said the hunters deceited Cecil to leave the preserved zone. So Cecil was killed legally out of the legally preserved zone. Refering to grey zones of law. Is it a crime to deceit an animal?
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
Lions are easy to whack because they are very lazy and sluggish targets, require only one shot, and they do not pose a threat beyond 50 yards.
Shooting a lion requires very little in terms of skill or capability.
A hunt worth having is either a supremely powerful and dangerous animal like a Rhino, or a fast mover like a Gazelle.
The lion is neither, and a waste of ammunition and time.
you make me google about whales and whether they are depressive when they come to the beach to die. Let me see if I find time for it.
Posted by Arielle83There are no other countries in the world, just the US. You should be aware of this by now.
You remind me of nancy grace.
Always making what YOU care about as being of utmost importance compared to everything else.
There are millions of news stories going on around the world and we all have the ability to read them all. This thread was about the lion.
Write your letter to Obama and insult him, not some girl on the internet expressing her disdain for an animal being killed.
"Next up in world news...Starbucks raised their prices again 😭"
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberThank you for pointing this out.
According to 0bama and his idiot supporters....
A dead lion matters.
African American babies slashed, mutilated and sold as "spare parts" don't matter.
What part of inappropriate outrage don't you understand?
Thank you 🙂
Oh my goodness a man killed a lion *goes and eats a burger and some chicken nuggets*
Yeah... You like your meat hung upside down throat slit as it wiggles by a chain wrapped around its hocks. Mhmm. People are hypocrites.
So defend the lion and eat the cow.
Also during the whole heat of the moment, a new bill was silently passed. Just like the FFTP was passed during the gay rights and racist commotion. It's just something to get all your dicks twisted so the great and wonderful 'merca can be sneaky sneaky.
Yeah now your passports can be revoked without say 🙂
Yeah... You like your meat hung upside down throat slit as it wiggles by a chain wrapped around its hocks. Mhmm. People are hypocrites.
So defend the lion and eat the cow.
Also during the whole heat of the moment, a new bill was silently passed. Just like the FFTP was passed during the gay rights and racist commotion. It's just something to get all your dicks twisted so the great and wonderful 'merca can be sneaky sneaky.
Yeah now your passports can be revoked without say 🙂
I personally wouldn't hunt a predator. If it isn't really safe to eat why eat it? Predators are more prone to disease and alot more dangerous to eat then herbivores.
That's why I hunt defenseless deer by the hundreds, and sell the babies for a large profit. Everyone loves tender baby deer and cow. Oh fluffy rabbits too.
But let us morn over the blood thirsty lion for a bit. Poor lion. All it ever did was eat defenseless animals and people. Almost reminds me of humans.
That's why I hunt defenseless deer by the hundreds, and sell the babies for a large profit. Everyone loves tender baby deer and cow. Oh fluffy rabbits too.
But let us morn over the blood thirsty lion for a bit. Poor lion. All it ever did was eat defenseless animals and people. Almost reminds me of humans.
But I don't agree with killing for trophy. If he ate the lion after that's fine. If not then he's just killing for the sake of killing.
That's kind of my point. Or made a new points appear in my head. Humans completely destroy nature. Killing plants and animals like it's our job. It's been the apocalypse for nature all trough humanity, but now we stop to acknowledge what humans have always done. Well guess what? It's too damn late. You know, forget the farm animals that are living breathing creatures. They are only raised to be slaughtered so it's ok. Life and nature was only created to be destroyed, so it's ok. Blood thirsty lions should be praised, it's ok. Now who the fuck is saying that? People following the media are sheep.
Posted by VanishLions are not endangered.
The issue here, for those who are too lazy to read this story (mainly libras) is that lions are endangered and this was a protected lion that was illegally lured from the sanctuary by a couple of untrained, unlicensed negros looking for cash, and its obvious that the dentist knew. He should at least be charged for illegally removing the lions's collar that signifies that it was a protected lion.
Sounds good though, I suppose.
Posted by RabbitNo arguments there.
They are protected though.
Regardless of how many exist, it's no excuse to break the law.
I doubt the dentist knew he was breaking the law, however. (Admittedly, not following the story very closely -- I can't take much more these days.)
Probably just an American yahoo with a few bucks to burn and wanted a lion trophy, and certainly had no clue who "Cecil" was.
The situation is unfortunate, and should be prevented in the future. I'm no fan of seeing majestic creatures being taken for sport.
But the whole thing has been completely overblown, IMO.
And it's getting a little more than tiresome seeing these national media firestorms ruining peoples lives over a single fuck up.
Careers ruined, death threats, running the SOB out of town on a rail. The mob mentality is out of control.
Careers ruined, death threats, running the SOB out of town on a rail. The mob mentality is out of control.
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
According to 0bama and his idiot supporters....
A dead lion matters.
African American babies slashed, mutilated and sold as "spare parts" don't matter.
What part of inappropriate outrage don't you understand?
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberThe chaos you cause in YOUR own country is your issue. The chaos f**ktards like you cause in other countries, is open for our non-American outrage and discussion, as we see fit. Start your own thread instead of trying to push your agenda on the rest of us.
You are all fucking idiots.
The fact that you cry over a fucking cat, but don't get anywhere near as outraged about dead baby body parts being shuffled around a table like a bunch of spaghettios is what makes you losers.
Idiots, all of you.
And you are shameless about your stupidity, as well.
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So, for those of us who can read, back to the topic at hand.....
Posted by VanishMy point was, (speaking as a non-American) that American laws on pro-choice are not my concern, nor the topic of this discussion. Not everyone on this site is American.Posted by tamaraAmerican poachers are welcomed by African governments. The US has already imposed laws about what you can no longer bring back into this country regarding animal hunts. African countries are to blame.Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
According to 0bama and his idiot supporters....
A dead lion matters.
African American babies slashed, mutilated and sold as "spare parts" don't matter.
What part of inappropriate outrage don't you understand?Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberThe chaos you cause in YOUR own country is your issue. The chaos f**ktards like you cause in other countries, is open for our non-American outrage and discussion, as we see fit. Start your own thread instead of trying to push your agenda on the rest of us.
You are all fucking idiots.
The fact that you cry over a fucking cat, but don't get anywhere near as outraged about dead baby body parts being shuffled around a table like a bunch of spaghettios is what makes you losers.
Idiots, all of you.
And you are shameless about your stupidity, as well.
So, for those of us who can read, back to the topic at hand.....click to expand
Posted by RabbitLillyBlossom made so such assumptions, WRP and you're contending the citizens of Zimbabwe have a say.
I see your point, and I'll go one further:
You're assuming everyone in Zimbabwe cares.
The government of Zimbabwe doesn't really care enough to ban hunting.
The citizens of Zimbabwe don't really care enough to pressure the government into banning hunting.
The people who DO care enough are mostly foreigners.
And the last I checked, the developing world takes a dim view of any 1st world nation meddling in their affairs.
So who's right?
Have you ever been to Africa? Have you travelled anywhere outside of North America? I have only been to northern Africa in my travels, but I would imagine that Zimbabwe, like many other African countries, does not enjoy the freedom or luxury to pressure their government and that their concerns are more about their own immediate survival, rather than long-term environmental conservation.
Further to the point made about African governments –that’s purely about greed. Trophy hunting licenses do generate revenue for the governments that sell them, but almost none of that cash ever makes it to the communities that are supposed to benefit from the revenue. They don’t care that poachers like Palmer are unskilled marksmen whose incompetence results in an animal being severely wounded and dying slowly –that is the least of their worries.
Perhaps the illegal killing of Cecil will result in some immediate good for Zimbabwe.....such as awareness for the need for assistance to alleviate the country's ongoing economic crisis, issues relating to human rights and good, responsible governance. Poaching is not a concern to the citizens who are starving and battling acute water and electricity shortages.
Cecil's death does, however, provide the people of Africa, (Zimbabwe in particular) the opportunity to lay claim to the responsibility to protect their land, their cultural heritage, the wildlife and the environment -particularly within the context of the continued decimation and pillaging of its abundant natural resources and the extermination of native species.
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Poaching is a problem for many different reasons which extend far beyond the view that the only reason to it, is to save the life of an animal.
The environmental impacts of poaching are devastating to our planet, not just Zimbabwe or the African continent. Obviously the biggest impact is the depletion in the number of wildlife present in a given area. Defaunation of an area due to poaching, results from the immediate impact of killing an existing animal. Besides reducing breeding numbers, the long term effects of a thinning the gene pool and the symbiotic (and often irreversible) impact affects overall biodiversity.
Just sixty years ago there were roughly half a million lions in Africa. According to most reports, the number of wild lions left in Africa hovers around 20,000 – that’s a reduction of around 75% over the last sixty years! In this instance, Cecil’s murder should be important to all of us! Killing a single lion in 2015 is mathematically equivalent to murdering 400,000 of the planet’s roughly eight billion people. Check out the WWF website, which shows the sad and terrifying statistics. According to the WWF website, tigers in Asia, have had their wild range decreased by 93% over the last 100 years, and have suffered a numerical decline of 97% . Poaching has directly led to the extinction of wild rhinoceros in Mozambique and many other regions across the African continent. According to most reports, the number of wild rhino left in Africa hovers around 25,000 -a reduction of around 97% , from one million rhinos, over the last century.
Additional to the drop of animal populations, poaching affects natural ecosystems! There is a delicate balance between different types of fauna and their local habitat. In terms of cause and effect, the depletion of a species is analytically bound to the effects on other species. Removing predatory animals can result in an over-abundance of prey animals, which causes the destabilization and decline of vegetation and food supply.
Poaching is a problem for many different reasons which extend far beyond the view that the only reason to it, is to save the life of an animal.
The environmental impacts of poaching are devastating to our planet, not just Zimbabwe or the African continent. Obviously the biggest impact is the depletion in the number of wildlife present in a given area. Defaunation of an area due to poaching, results from the immediate impact of killing an existing animal. Besides reducing breeding numbers, the long term effects of a thinning the gene pool and the symbiotic (and often irreversible) impact affects overall biodiversity.
Just sixty years ago there were roughly half a million lions in Africa. According to most reports, the number of wild lions left in Africa hovers around 20,000 – that’s a reduction of around 75% over the last sixty years! In this instance, Cecil’s murder should be important to all of us! Killing a single lion in 2015 is mathematically equivalent to murdering 400,000 of the planet’s roughly eight billion people. Check out the WWF website, which shows the sad and terrifying statistics. According to the WWF website, tigers in Asia, have had their wild range decreased by 93% over the last 100 years, and have suffered a numerical decline of 97% . Poaching has directly led to the extinction of wild rhinoceros in Mozambique and many other regions across the African continent. According to most reports, the number of wild rhino left in Africa hovers around 25,000 -a reduction of around 97% , from one million rhinos, over the last century.
Additional to the drop of animal populations, poaching affects natural ecosystems! There is a delicate balance between different types of fauna and their local habitat. In terms of cause and effect, the depletion of a species is analytically bound to the effects on other species. Removing predatory animals can result in an over-abundance of prey animals, which causes the destabilization and decline of vegetation and food supply.
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There’s also the impact that poaching has had on human health. Let’s look at the emergence of zoonotic diseases that have been linked directly to wildlife crime. The outbreak of SARS in Hong Kong has been traced to consumption of poached meat available on black markets. Ebola, has had outbreaks in Africa directly linked to the poaching and consumption of primates. Monkey Pox and bird flu (H5N1) are also examples of diseases directly facilitated by illegal wildlife trade.
I had to smh over the dimwitted “cry over a fucking cat” statement. It’s so short-sighted, but not unexpected considering the source. The poaching issue is too serious a problem, with a dire long-term outcome, to deviate from the subject of this thread, so I’m staying on topic.
There’s also the impact that poaching has had on human health. Let’s look at the emergence of zoonotic diseases that have been linked directly to wildlife crime. The outbreak of SARS in Hong Kong has been traced to consumption of poached meat available on black markets. Ebola, has had outbreaks in Africa directly linked to the poaching and consumption of primates. Monkey Pox and bird flu (H5N1) are also examples of diseases directly facilitated by illegal wildlife trade.
I had to smh over the dimwitted “cry over a fucking cat” statement. It’s so short-sighted, but not unexpected considering the source. The poaching issue is too serious a problem, with a dire long-term outcome, to deviate from the subject of this thread, so I’m staying on topic.
Posted by RabbitThere you go making assumptions again.....I said nothing of the sort.
Yep. Let's go telling other countries what they should be doing.
Which is perfectly acceptable when it's a cause you support.
But God forbid it's a cause you don't support, then it's "creating chaos".
Posted by RabbitYou are assuming again. Show me where I said that?
I never assumed anything.
I'm stating my position:
Let Zimbabwe figure it out themselves. We don't need to be inserting ourselves where we aren't wanted or needed. It never works out well.
1) My first post: I wrote that non-Americans, such as myself have every right to an opinion on the topic of world environmental topics. They do affect every single one of us. The individual who is at the centre of this discussion is American. If someone wants to turn this thread into an "American policy" thread, than they can start their own topic -it does not belong here.
2) My second post: You asserted LillyBlossom said something she did not say. I wrote about the dire economic and political situation in Zimbabwe and my hope that this would bring awareness to the plight faced by the people and countries of Africa. By the way, you never did answer my question. Have you ever been to Africa? Have you ever been outside of your own country or North America? I have travelled to 5 of the 7 continents of the world and though I haven't spent time in the southern portion of Africa, I have spent enough time travelling the world, learning from the people and respecting the many viewpoints and ways of life in other countries and cultures.
3) My third post: I wrote about the long-term effects of the invasive human species and how short-sightness is killing this planet.
So again, do show me where I once stated or alluded to anyone inserting themselves into Zimbabwe.
Posted by RabbitSpeak for yourself WRP, and only yourself! You are assuming again –this time, that everyone is too ignorant or self-absorbed to care or know what is happening in this world. Some of us cared and continue to care, without social media directing us.
That and the whole hypocrisy of this situation grates on my nerves.
No one gave a shit about poaching before this situation showed up in their FB feed. But now everyone has the solution that will end it all for good!
Much like the Planned Parenthood thing. One highly edited video comes out on FB and all of a sudden formerly pro-choice people get all up in arms.
What do you think happened to those fetuses? They all went to some fancy aborted fetus cemetery in Coral Gables?
Social Media Manufactured Firestorms that completely undermine any real work truly concerned people have been busting their asses doing all along.
Granted, sometimes it takes a social media firestorm to raise awareness. I choose to remain non-judgemental about the ‘how’ people learn about a cause that I feel strongly about.
Posted by RabbitYou did! I highlighted it, for your convenience. 🙂
I'm not saying you did.
Posted by RabbitScorpiofish is only interested in redirecting the topic. American policy on pro-life has nothing to do with this topic. Again, if he wants to talk about American policy, he can make his own thread and not make lame excuses that seraph will have his topic removed. It's cowardly.
Scorpiofish has the right to express his opinion on the topic if he wants. If he thinks the killing of a lion is not as important as a fetus, that's his right.
Posted by RabbitI think you and I agree on the crux of the matter and larger picture. *hugs*
Virtually no one in the US cared. I'll admit the rest of the world is more connected than the US.
I am truly fearful for future generations and the world we are leaving to them. We are killing our planet and leaving no future for the generations to come. Pro-life doesn't matter in that case.
Posted by tamaraCrap! Typos abound! It should read 95% , not 75% .
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According to most reports, the number of wild lions left in Africa hovers around 20,000 – that’s a reduction of around 75% over the last sixty years!
Posted by RabbitItaly is beautiful! 🙂
I don't disagree poaching is horrible.
And yes.
I lived in Italy. For a bit. It's not nearly as worldly as the average Euro. But the US doesn't exactly make it easy for us to travel anywhere else.
You have had the good fortune of living in another country and absorbing the culture. There are many who have not had that kind of advantage.
Posted by MsFiskYou lovable shit stirrer, MsFisk!
*Adds fuel*
"Cecil the lion will live forever — as a Beanie Baby"
mashable.com/2015/08/03/cecil-lion-beanie-baby/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link
SQUEEEE!!!
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