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says cee lo, LMAO @ gemini logic
And he also lost his show over that comment
CeeLo Green??s TBS reality show, The Good Life, has been canceled, sources confirm to EW. The news comes shortly after the former The Voice coach came under fire for a series of offensive tweets about rape, in which he argued that women must be conscious to —really?? be raped. Green pleaded no contest Friday to a felony charge that he furnished ecstasy to a woman in 2012.
And he also lost his show over that comment
CeeLo Green??s TBS reality show, The Good Life, has been canceled, sources confirm to EW. The news comes shortly after the former The Voice coach came under fire for a series of offensive tweets about rape, in which he argued that women must be conscious to —really?? be raped. Green pleaded no contest Friday to a felony charge that he furnished ecstasy to a woman in 2012.
Omg!! _??__??_
"I see you driving downtown with the girl I love, and I say f you....I guess the roofie in my pocket wasn't enough, and I say f you and f her toooooo.....'
Posted by size zero superhero
but cee-lo is like 5'1" and 300lbs w/DDDcup t1ttays. the fact he's a gemini has nothing to do with his difficulties getting laid without the assistance of rapey pills.
wealth doesn't necessarily guarantee sex by the truckload. in which case, some need X by the truckload?
LMAO. I've seen guys that SHOULD still be virgins, get loads of arse without any effort whatsoever. I guess sexy is in the eyes of the beer holder...umm...beholder.
It's disappointing that he has that kind of mindset at his age. At any age for that matter. What a retard.
Posted by size zero superhero
but cee-lo is like 5'1" and 300lbs w/DDDcup t1ttays. the fact he's a gemini has nothing to do with his difficulties getting laid without the assistance of rapey pills.
wealth doesn't necessarily guarantee sex by the truckload. in which case, some need X by the truckload?
His ex wife is fine as fuck thou...brown skinned,thick lips,big ass..fuckin delicious
if ceelo closed his eyes none of this would be happening
ill be your skanky pimp starlover
this was a boost to his popularity
It's disturbing how guys view sex and women sometimes, and DON'T get why it's wrong.
When I read these, the initial impression I got was him blowing off steam because of the accusations from his case and that maybe he was thinking along the lines of "how could I rape her if she's unconscious?" given the lack of evidence proving if he did or not.
However, at the same time, the implication that someone has to be conscious implies automatic consent is just stupid.
Unfortunately, there are many guys out there with a stupid, twisted sense of entitlement to a woman's body and will make up all sorts of flawed logic to get away with it without feeling like an asshole.
There was a study/survey done about rape in our culture, and many guys admitted to rape as long as it wasn't called "rape." Questions were reworded so instead of saying "did you rape someone?" it was something along the lines of the actual definition of rape like, "did you have sex with someone who was under the influence of a subtance?" or "did you have sex with someone who was unconscious." The amount of "yes" answers to questions like this was pretty disturbing. 40% -60% or whatever it was. Could have been a bit lower, but the fact that the percentage was as high as it was to begin with, especially if we're supposedly a society who knows rape is bad, was pretty scary.
Nevermind the comments I saw posted along with the misc. stories about Ceelo. "Why are we called a rape culture?? We all know rape is bad and it's not like we let people get away with it." *facepalm*
Guys and their ignorance of what it's like to be a female in society- much naive bs and so many dismissive comments on the real issues going on.
When I read these, the initial impression I got was him blowing off steam because of the accusations from his case and that maybe he was thinking along the lines of "how could I rape her if she's unconscious?" given the lack of evidence proving if he did or not.
However, at the same time, the implication that someone has to be conscious implies automatic consent is just stupid.
Unfortunately, there are many guys out there with a stupid, twisted sense of entitlement to a woman's body and will make up all sorts of flawed logic to get away with it without feeling like an asshole.
There was a study/survey done about rape in our culture, and many guys admitted to rape as long as it wasn't called "rape." Questions were reworded so instead of saying "did you rape someone?" it was something along the lines of the actual definition of rape like, "did you have sex with someone who was under the influence of a subtance?" or "did you have sex with someone who was unconscious." The amount of "yes" answers to questions like this was pretty disturbing. 40% -60% or whatever it was. Could have been a bit lower, but the fact that the percentage was as high as it was to begin with, especially if we're supposedly a society who knows rape is bad, was pretty scary.
Nevermind the comments I saw posted along with the misc. stories about Ceelo. "Why are we called a rape culture?? We all know rape is bad and it's not like we let people get away with it." *facepalm*
Guys and their ignorance of what it's like to be a female in society- much naive bs and so many dismissive comments on the real issues going on.
Posted by size zero superhero
While I wholeheartedly agree with your point; I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment that if two adults were to have sex while under the influence(neither party unconscious)that such a scenario necessarily equates to rape/sexual assault.
If that were so; those who act irresponsibly while intoxicated & later regret boning someone they wouldn't have sober, who was also under the influence--they'd be able to build a case against the other party even though they both willingly went through with the act at the time, and didn't resist nor object at any point.
Personally, I think that would be terribly problematic & unjust to compare that to actual rape or aggravated sexual assault.
However, "getting off" with someone's unconscious, non-responsive body is sexual assault in every sense of the definition, IMO.
This.
Posted by AriesIntrovert16Posted by Wynter
Caught red handed, and won't own up to it.
"wudn't me bro!"
Typical.
Typical what?click to expand
LOL! I thought that too but decided not to comment & make it about you know what. Too many threads about it already.
No. I'm not talking about both individuals being drunk.
When a sober person has sex with someone who is drunk, that is rape. End of point. In that study, these guys admitted to getting a girl drunk so he could sleep with her. Hell, I know of guys who talk about this nasty ass shit all the time- waiting around for her to be so drunk that she'll put out because they're essentially sexual predators. They just don't see it that way because so many other guys they know talk about things like this as if it's perfectly normal. It's just part of their "game" to get laid.
My friend's ex was involved with a bike club. While most of them were cool, there were several questionable members, and the things they'd talk about and do were pretty disgusting. It was even worse when the people that they talked to about all of this didn't say shit about it. It's another facet of the rape culture in this country- people know that so and so is a bit of a creeper, but won't do anything to discourage so and so being a creeper around other girls at whatever function/party. People just nod and smile instead of saying "hey, you're a sick fuck, and you're making all the females here uncomfortable. You should leave."
When a sober person has sex with someone who is drunk, that is rape. End of point. In that study, these guys admitted to getting a girl drunk so he could sleep with her. Hell, I know of guys who talk about this nasty ass shit all the time- waiting around for her to be so drunk that she'll put out because they're essentially sexual predators. They just don't see it that way because so many other guys they know talk about things like this as if it's perfectly normal. It's just part of their "game" to get laid.
My friend's ex was involved with a bike club. While most of them were cool, there were several questionable members, and the things they'd talk about and do were pretty disgusting. It was even worse when the people that they talked to about all of this didn't say shit about it. It's another facet of the rape culture in this country- people know that so and so is a bit of a creeper, but won't do anything to discourage so and so being a creeper around other girls at whatever function/party. People just nod and smile instead of saying "hey, you're a sick fuck, and you're making all the females here uncomfortable. You should leave."
http://www.uic.edu/depts/owa/sa_rape_support.html<BR>
Societal Attitudes Supporting Rape
- A survey of 6,159 college students enrolled at 32 institutions in the U.S. found the following: (ref 4)
?? 54% of the women surveyed had been the victims of some form of sexual abuse; more than one in four college-aged women had been the victim of rape or attempted rape;
?? 57% of the assaults occurred on dates;
?? 73% of the assailants and 55% of the victims had used alcohol or other drugs prior to the assault;
?? 25% of the men surveyed admitted some degree of sexually aggressive behavior;
?? 42% of the victims told no one.
THIS is disturbing because look at how young they are and look at the attitudes-
- In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances. (ref 5)
The overall stats in this link are disturbing, tbh.
Societal Attitudes Supporting Rape
- A survey of 6,159 college students enrolled at 32 institutions in the U.S. found the following: (ref 4)
?? 54% of the women surveyed had been the victims of some form of sexual abuse; more than one in four college-aged women had been the victim of rape or attempted rape;
?? 57% of the assaults occurred on dates;
?? 73% of the assailants and 55% of the victims had used alcohol or other drugs prior to the assault;
?? 25% of the men surveyed admitted some degree of sexually aggressive behavior;
?? 42% of the victims told no one.
THIS is disturbing because look at how young they are and look at the attitudes-
- In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances. (ref 5)
The overall stats in this link are disturbing, tbh.
And this is the study I referred to-
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/11/12/rapists-who-dont-think-theyre-rapists/<BR>
Thomas looks at a study of 1882 college students who were asked four questions to determine if they had ever raped (or attempted to rape) anyone:
1) Have you ever attempted unsuccessfully to have intercourse with an adult by force or threat of force?
2) Have you ever had sexual intercourse with someone who did not want you to because they were too intoxicated to resist?
3) Have you ever had intercourse with someone by force or threat of force?
4) Have you ever had oral intercourse with someone by force or threat of force?
They key point was not to use the word "rape" as people tend to not answer as honestly when it's used, and the results were pretty disturbing as well.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/11/12/rapists-who-dont-think-theyre-rapists/<BR>
Thomas looks at a study of 1882 college students who were asked four questions to determine if they had ever raped (or attempted to rape) anyone:
1) Have you ever attempted unsuccessfully to have intercourse with an adult by force or threat of force?
2) Have you ever had sexual intercourse with someone who did not want you to because they were too intoxicated to resist?
3) Have you ever had intercourse with someone by force or threat of force?
4) Have you ever had oral intercourse with someone by force or threat of force?
They key point was not to use the word "rape" as people tend to not answer as honestly when it's used, and the results were pretty disturbing as well.
He's not a fucking rapper! The porn industry objectifies the shit out of women why don't you bitch about that.
ceeno rape
And Ceelo is a sick fuck for that.
Posted by Chael
I thought he was dead? Or was that bernie mac or gnarls barkley?
gnarls barkley is cee lo..and this song is appropriate for what he did
Yes porn is consensual, but why do rappers have to get shitted on when they objectify women?
Posted by aime7
Yes porn is consensual, but why do rappers have to get shitted on when they objectify women?
You're kidding, right? Nobody should be objectifying women.
You're over here whining about people pegging rappers for objectifying women? Because speaking about another human being as an object, treating them as such, and also as a target for getting a guy's rocks off is perfectly okay?
But you're all "WAHHHH WHY THE RAPPERS??" It's a culture of "hur money and booze, drugs, and hoes. I'M LIVING THE LUXURIOUS LIFE!" Oh and a boat. Apparently that means prestige too. There's nothing to be getting butthurt over when it's called out for the shit it is.
I know not all rap artists are like this, but this is the impression the genre leaves thanks to these mouth breathers. THAT is why rappers get shit on for objectifying women. It's all utter ignorance and it's disgusting.
It's also disgusting that your comment alone implied that objectifying women shouldn't get shit because of them being a special group near and dear to your tingly bits.
My question to you is why SHOULDN'T they get shit on when they objectify women?
Posted by size zero superheroPosted by aime7
He's not a fucking rapper! The porn industry objectifies the shit out of women why don't you bitch about that.
Seconded; cee most certainly isn't a rapper. They might have him mistaken for Rick Ross, the rapper whose song lyrics infamously featured date rape via slipping drugs into a girl's drink. Unlike Rick Ross, cee lo is musically talented.
However, the adult industry can't be conflated with rape & sex crimes. People vying for those jobs willingly COMPETE to get a foot in the door in professional porn, and they get paid handsomely if their "work" sells.
It would be more accurate to draw parallels between illegal human sex slave trade & rape/sexual assault victims, or with prostitutes who've been forcibly "turned out" & pimped at very young ages.click to expand
well cee lo was a rapper before all the r&b/singing stuff..he was with a group called goodie mob and their 1st album is considered a classic among the hiphop community..
I didn't say rappers shouldn't get shit for it. But if you're going to call out MAINSTREAM rappers, call out other industries. And rap is not even my favorite musical genre, I don't relate to most artists.
Posted by aime7
I didn't say rappers shouldn't get shit for it. But if you're going to call out MAINSTREAM rappers, call out other industries. And rap is not even my favorite musical genre, I don't relate to most artists.
Wahhmbulance time. Seriously.
I dunno about you, but I saw it as an example. Not the opportunity to get butthurt and cry out some ridiculous comparison like porn.
Our society, which has been brought up in previous posts, is guilty of perpetuating all this objectification/rape culture bullshit. I think it's ridiculous that you came in here and tried to defend a genre that's notorious for such things, especially considering that the offending artist in the OP falls into the same culture/mentality of the topic of objectification of women and encouraging rape culture.
Stay on topic, you're getting lost. I saw that you did the same dumb shit in the racist thread too- bringing up things not even related to the topic on hand, going off on your own bizarre tangent.
Posted by size zero superheroPosted by aime7
Yes porn is consensual, but why do rappers have to get shitted on when they objectify women?
because sexual assault threats are worse than contractual work-related "objectification"
because the women involved aren't getting paid & are targeted against their will
because it normalizes & endorses rape culture, as well "marketing" it and profiting
because it's both wrong & irresponsible for society to enable artists w/lyrics about committing rape in a boastful, cavalier tone
i think you get the idea.
anyway, for the record, i take no issue with rappers/musicians/artists objectifying others in a non-violent context. sex sells, and the record companies expect these mainstream musicians to do just that. furthermore, as this subject relates to "video vixens", they get paid & ALLOW these artists to commodify them, and objectifying themselves is part of their chosen career path so, no harm no foul.click to expand
+1
Are you mad? Stop acting like rap is the reason for America's moral decadence. Rock has songs that objectify women and a large percentage of males worldwide objectify women. Blaming rape on rap music? Pathetic.
the rape stuff is bad but calling women bitches and hoes is sometimes necessary. its a word used to describe a female dog which could be anything. not all rap is bad. just like how in all porn, the actresses aren't always over 18.
assassinate cee-lo green, not rap music.
assassinate cee-lo green, not rap music.
Posted by aime7
Are you mad? Stop acting like rap is the reason for America's moral decadence. Rock has songs that objectify women and a large percentage of males worldwide objectify women. Blaming rape on rap music? Pathetic.
+1
its been dealt
you can rape me anytime
we settled that it wasn't about rap and this guy comes in and talks about black men being most likely to rape in hip hop. i just cant make ish like this up.
And tons of white men rape women as well. But I don't label every white man a rapist. I'm also sick of this bogus assumption that black men have this insatiable urge for white women.
dj do you have something against black people?
FACT 75% black men raped by white women
FACT Census 2000 states that majority of chinese men are gay
Posted by DonJohnson
nope.
are crime stats racist?
You referred to blacks as chimps one time, that wasnst statistics, that was racism. You do have racist views if not a fullblown racist. Don't deny it now.
polls and statistics on the internet aren't reality because they can be rigged and used to manipulate
i think you want some black dick in your behind because you're fascinated with black men.
Yes I have logic. Kindly hop off the black man's dick for once. Stop dubbing Chicago if you haven't stepped foot in there. And whites make up or made up about 75 percent of sexual offenders.
Posted by DonJohnsonPosted by HeartOfALioN
polls and statistics on the internet aren't reality because they can be rigged and used to manipulate
i wish you could be my lawyer.click to expand
how about i be your judge and sentence you to black gay prison where you can receive all the dick you fantasise about taking
Probably got iced by a black dude, now he resents us.
Posted by DonJohnsonPosted by HeartOfALioN
i think you want some black dick in your behind because you're fascinated with black men.
nah bro, i'm sweet.
good luck with that approach.click to expand
good luck with being sweet
Posted by DonJohnsonPosted by WaterCupPosted by DonJohnson
nope.
are crime stats racist?
You referred to blacks as chimps one time, that wasnst statistics, that was racism. You do have racist views if not a fullblown racist. Don't deny it now.
chimps can be a race. same with donkeys or pigs.
but you choose to believe that's racially reserved for you and your people only.... then there's nothing i can do about that 😢click to expand
Don't try to worm out of this one. I don't think it's reserved only for black people, but you used it to describe black people in that particular thread. Little room for the other options don't you think? It was crystal clear WHICH race you were referring to back then.
anyway im done with this pally.
Posted by DonJohnsonPosted by WaterCupPosted by DonJohnsonPosted by WaterCupPosted by DonJohnson
nope.
are crime stats racist?
You referred to blacks as chimps one time, that wasnst statistics, that was racism. You do have racist views if not a fullblown racist. Don't deny it now.
chimps can be a race. same with donkeys or pigs.
but you choose to believe that's racially reserved for you and your people only.... then there's nothing i can do about that 😢
Don't try to worm out of this one. I don't think it's reserved only for black people, but you used it to describe black people in that particular thread. Little room for the other options don't you think? It was crystal clear WHICH race you were referring to back then.
you choose to believe you are all monkeys.
i only returned fire after one of you monkeys incidentally called me a monkey. but it's only racism, if i call you a monkey right? I'm not choosing anything, you're the one that's choosing to believe that because YOU made the comparison between chimps & blacks, not me.
you see that is why you are a racist. and not me.click to expand
That's not how it happened & you're lucky because that thread got flagged so there's no way I could prove that you're lying right now.
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