It was a matter of time and I saw it coming....

Survey: Obama gets thumbs down from the troopsBy Jeremy Diamond, CNN
updated 11:25 AM EST, Mon December 22, 2014


Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama has struggled with sagging approval ratings over the last year, but the commander-in-chief's numbers may have dropped further among active-duty troops.

Just 15% of active-duty servicemembers gave Obama a thumbs up in the annual Military Times survey and more than half -- 55% -- say they disapprove of Obama's job as commander-in-chief. The President has struggled to gain the approval of troops throughout his time in office, but these numbers reflect a new low for Obama, who finished his first year in office with a 35% approval figure and only 4 in 10 disapproving, according to the Military Times survey.


So...I would assume that some crying racism in this country will call our miltary troops racists now eh? smh

This is not a good thing. Miltary are sitting back watching politicians throwing police under the bus...not a good thing at all.

Posted by GetMisted
Our military occupation is not needed in other countries right now. The focus should be on our people, and protecting the rights an liberties we're given as a citizen of this country.

You think that is why the military disapproves

of obama to such a degree?

Posted by GetMisted
The police are throwing themselves under the bus by turning their backs to the people.

Our military occupation is not needed in other countries right now. The focus should be on our people, and protecting the rights an liberties we're given as a citizen of this country.

The majority of people feel the majority of police are protecting our backs every single minute of every day. The military is going to follow suit if it comes down to backing the police...I guarantee it.

Posted by RainDancer88
I don't even see how disapproving of the Chief in Command could be considered racist. President Obama is half white and half black for starters.

I don't even understand how skin color matters. If you dig deep enough in anyone it's evident the issue is not the pigment of the skin.

SEE? already there's one here in dxp that automatically thinks this article is about skin color. smfh...

Posted by CluelessCancer
Funny under obama ive witnessed the most military obtaining education, getting healthcare, etc.


anyways that's a GREAT thing. I want our military to hate our president. He's doing everything right.

fuk the military complex

That's from the political side.^^ Take a look from actual active military families who are in foreclosure, or those home injured with NOTHING...fighting for those benefits. Want some articles on that?

I'd like to see all civilians capable of working taken OFF welfare so we can give it to our military who are being screwed out of benefits right now who can't work because of injuries protecting your ass in this country.

Posted by GetMisted

You were the first to mention race.. In your own OP. Just thought I'd point that out since your third eye missed it.

Yep exactly as I called it? Someone would make these polls about race. It only took a few posters to get there..Predictability and ignorance shown by people in these forums does that to me. I won't apologize.

Posted by LetltBsome crying racism in this country will call our miltary troops racists now eh? smh

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Posted by CluelessCancer

Well go talk to your white people, majority of individuals on welfare are WHITE WOMEN.

stop hating on the BOZZ for being the BOZZ and doing what he feels right.

respect the man for what he's done...taken this beaten country and turned it around

^^^...another one

Do the research folks, it's clear some of you have no clue why the ratings are at a record low by the military for the Chief...

...and for those other's who want to make this about race as predicted,
I'm sorry to report IT'S NOT ABOUT SKIN COLOR.

Start a race thread...there's a few live and wild already started for you. 😉

DO SOME MORE READING...not SELECTIVE. You will answer your own questions...

WHAT an informative thread. Today I learned that

African immigrants get free diabetic supplies thru Obamacare

American veterans commit suicide at a rate of 25 per day

And the police are probably more military than the military

Posted by Rabbit
And not all service men support the police. My uncle (MP) and father (Army Intel) both retired, both feel the police have become far too powerful and far too militarized and think a major overhaul is needed.

...interesting. Not what I'm hearing. Exactly the opposite.

Posted by Wynter
WHAT an informative thread. Today I learned that

African immigrants get free diabetic supplies thru Obamacare

American veterans commit suicide at a rate of 25 per day

And the police are probably more military than the military

Have you seen all of the advertisements for donations by civilians FOR military men and women who are home injured? That shouldn't be happening...it should come first and foremost in full from the government..or the politicians who don't pay taxes.

Posted by Redbull

Posted by CluelessCancer
Funny under obama ive witnessed the most military obtaining education, getting healthcare, etc.


anyways that's a GREAT thing. I want our military to hate our president. He's doing everything right.

fuk the military complex

Like on aol i just read that the economy is growing at the fastest rate since 2003 and the Dow is at 18000 for the first time in history. Unemployment is steadily declining just like it has been since he became Pres Gas around here is like $ 2.20.etc,etc...as was said his policies dont benefit the military complex. Thats what Republicans do Wars=money for the military.

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Let's be careful about giving credit for things like lower gas prices to the current occupant of the White House.
In that specific situation, a lot of the oil being supplied is coming from places like the Bakken , and being done on state and private land. One might say it's happening in spite of attempts by a good number in DC who think a couple of windmills will solve all our energy needs.
Want to see the economy fly? Cheap energy, lowering the corporate tax rate so it's not the second highest in the world, and stop/roll back idiotic regulations like considering a puddle after a heavy rain a wetland.

But back to the OP, it's not good to have such low support in the military. And this despite whys some might describe as a purge happening at the office level over the last 4 years or so..

Posted by Rabbit

It protects within 1 year of the end of deployment.

The SCRA has a lot of gray areas unfortunately...

20,000 military members, vets faced foreclosure in 2010

More than 20,000 veterans, active-duty troops and reservists who took out special government-backed mortgages lost their homes last year — the highest number since 2003.

The rate of foreclosure filings in 2010 among 163 Zip codes located near military bases rose 32% over 2008, according to RealtyTrac, a foreclosure research firm. This compares with a 2010 increase in foreclosures filings nationally of 23% over 2008.

The housing crisis has hit military families particularly hard in part because of transfers and the loss of civilian jobs left behind by reservists.

About 12,000 military families applied to the Pentagon's expanded Homeowners Assistance Program. It makes up most of the difference in price for servicemembers who must transfer and sell their homes for less than they owe, or buys their houses outright.

"Our demand, in terms of (military) families coming to us for assistance, went up 19% in 2010 over the previous year," says Bill Nelson, executive director of USA Cares, a charity that provides financial assistance to Iraq andAfghanistan war-era troops.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/military/2011-02-04-1Avetforeclosures04_ST_N.htm

Primary SCRA Provisions
SCRA offers a variety of provisions to help active duty personnel meet their legal and financial obligations. But relief under the SCRA is not always automatic. You must affirmatively invoke or request relief. That is why you should familiarize yourself with the law??s provisions and work with your nearest Armed Forces Legal Assistance Office to identify and invoke any SCRA protections that apply to your particular circumstances.
- See more at: http://www.saveandinvest.org/militarycenter/DeploymentPCS/P124319#sthash.mqH3bLIX.dpuf

one of the provisions on foreclosure:

I will bold the word "may be able to help you"...you know the term for the non-politician..

Relief from foreclosures and forced sales. If you are on active-duty and it results in your inability to pay your mortgage or meet the terms of a purchase or installment contract, the SCRA may be able to help you. Real estate may not be foreclosed nor vehicles repossessed without a court order if you breach the terms of a purchase contract because of active military service. The service member may request a stay of such a proceeding under certain circumstances. - See more at: http://www.saveandinvest.org/militarycenter/DeploymentPCS/P124319#sthash.mqH3bLIX.dpuf

The shit ton of red tape/paper work would amaze most.

Posted by Redbull

Like on aol i just read that the economy is growing at the fastest rate since 2003 and the Dow is at 18000 for the first time in history. Unemployment is steadily declining just like it has been since he became Pres Gas around here is like $ 2.20.etc,etc...as was said his policies dont benefit the military complex. Thats what Republicans do Wars=money for the military.

This.

Posted by CluelessCancer
Redbull and they still won't give the president his due for all of that. I see the changes. I hate Obama for his foreign policy.
but he's a Gad damn AMAZING PRESIDENT
My mother who is dirt poor has been chained by healthcare costs. Unable to pay anything off. Her and my father. She's a diabetic one.
can you believe it they used to make her pay hundreds of dollars monthly for INSULIN ..what she needs to LIVE.

I can cause I have.

Posted by Rabbit
And not all service men support the police. My uncle (MP) and father (Army Intel) both retired, both feel the police have become far too powerful and far too militarized and think a major overhaul is needed.

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Agreed.

As for the troops, Neoconservatives like Romney would be the FIRDT to send them to places to fight "oppressive" governments, yet if the poor bastards come back alive they aren't important. At this point they just want excuses to make money making weapons and just give 0 fucks to what anyone else say to the matter. On that note not all conservatives are bad clearly. Look at Ron Paul. Funny enough big shots of his party don't like him much. Wonder why. Something about being an isolationist with his policies or something?

Posted by Rabbit

But let's not mistake a private lender issue for a government issue. The investors have options at their disposal to help vets but decline to. Especially if the mortgages are VA insured.

Trying to link Obama to this is grasping at straws.

Actually the SCRA protects military from all lenders. I fought one on my father's behalf and won.

Ten leading US lenders may have unlawfully foreclosed on the mortgages of nearly 5,000 active-duty members of the US military in recent years, according to data released by a federal regulator. [??_]
The data released by the OCC are based on estimates prepared by lenders and their consultants. BofA said it is reviewing 2,400 foreclosures involving active-duty military families to see if they were conducted properly. Wells Fargo is reviewing 870 foreclosures and Citigroup is looking at 700 cases.
Also under review are 575 foreclosures at OneWest, formerly known as IndyMac; 87 at HSBC; 80 at US Bancorp; 56 at Aurora, formerly known as Lehman Brothers Bank; 25 at MetLife; six at Sovereign; and three at EverBank.

Back in April, JPMorgan Chase, which was not one of the 10 banks that the OCC examined, agreed to a $ 56 million settlement over allegations that it had overcharged members of the military on their mortgages. Chase Bank has even auctioned off the home of a military member the very day that he returned from Iraq. Two other mortgage servicers agreed in May to settle charges of improperly foreclosing on servicemembers.

Even without the banks illegally foreclosing, military members have been hard hit by the foreclosure crisis. Last year alone, 20,000 members of the military faced foreclosure, a 32 percent increase over 2008. The newly created Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is tasked with ensuring that military members are treated fairly by financial services companies — a job that is obviously necessary — but Republicans in Congress have, so far, refused to confirm a director for the agency, leaving it unable to fulfill all of its responsibilities.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/active-duty-soldiers-veterans-continue-to-battle-illegal-bank-foreclosures/157464/

—Veterans have special protections from foreclosure under the law, but in many cases those protections were ignored by lenders, who pursued improper foreclosures. This new assistance is an important step toward restoring the lives of Great Lakes State veterans who may have struggled to keep their homes during the foreclosure crisis.??

http://www.mintpressnews.com/active-duty-soldiers-veterans-continue-to-battle-illegal-bank-foreclosures/157464/

Posted by LetltB
Survey: Obama gets thumbs down from the troopsBy Jeremy Diamond, CNN
updated 11:25 AM EST, Mon December 22, 2014


Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama has struggled with sagging approval ratings over the last year, but the commander-in-chief's numbers may have dropped further among active-duty troops.

Just 15% of active-duty servicemembers gave Obama a thumbs up in the annual Military Times survey and more than half -- 55% -- say they disapprove of Obama's job as commander-in-chief. The President has struggled to gain the approval of troops throughout his time in office, but these numbers reflect a new low for Obama, who finished his first year in office with a 35% approval figure and only 4 in 10 disapproving, according to the Military Times survey.


So...I would assume that some crying racism in this country will call our miltary troops racists now eh? smh

Do you think troops respect a Commander in Chief who has actually served in the military rather that one who has no idea what it is like to actually stand in their shoes?

This was my thought when I first read your post.

I think it should be a requirement the CIC has had military experience. How can you lead a military if you have no military training?

Posted by Rabbit

Trying to link Obama to this is grasping at straws.

Regarding that^^^ that's a small thorn in their sides, that didn't help. There's a pretty big list of "whys".

Posted by Rabbit
I know the SCRA provisions. It was part of my job for a good part of a decade.

If a service member does not qualify per standard SCRA regs, again, the investor has the option of extending the protection.

Mortgages (unless guaranteed by a GSE) are private financial contracts, not governmental.

The issue is with the bank/investor/servicer.

Not Obama.

I just quoted what is legal and what is not illegal. If you are a bank lender you are to BY LAW ABIDE BY THE SCRA. The banks have the right to also say NOT APPROVED.

*TO ABIDE

Posted by Rabbit
Again...not Obama.

I can't stress that enough. I don't agree with Obama's policies at all...

But in no way is this somehow his fault. Blaming Obama is simply misdirection. If we're looking for someone to blame, blame JPSatanBankOfHell and the pols (Dem and Rep) that took bribes to deregulate the mortgage industry.

blame then and congress for being their minions.

Posted by truecap

I think it should be a requirement the CIC has had military experience. How can you lead a military if you have no military training?

ABSOLUTELY! Whatever would the corporations do then when they can't run our country anymore?

(sarcasm as to why ex-military isn't)

Posted by JustALeo
I think unless you have served before and during his term, you would know why military members feel that way. Also, it's just a survey, meaning opinions. I've been in over 8 years and I know if a survey isn't mandatory most people will not complete it and the ones who does feel like they have something to say.

All in all, all active duty, reserve and guard members of all branches of the military know not to speak ill of the Commander in Chief...they swore and took an oath.

Approval or not, he is still the President and we will follow his orders no matter what.

Agreed.

It's really odd that he repeatedly made changes to the obama care without congressional approval for the sake of Civilian Americans to be taken care of (or something like that), yet..for his military cannot throw out the bullshit language of the SCRA to proetct them first and foremost.

Posted by CluelessCancer
Where was this thread when Bush was leading this country.

I didn't vote for asshole Bush

I didn't votge for asshole Obama


So I'm sure if you dig real deep...you'll find those threads too.

We need military in office. No more pencil pushing pricks.

...whatever..

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by beautifuldiaster

Why does it matter if the troops do not support or like their president?

Respect. You salute the rank, not the man. I'm not even in the military and I know that much.

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Saluting the rank is an obligation.

Saluting the man is respect.

There is a big difference.

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Posted by CapTenn

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by beautifuldiaster

Why does it matter if the troops do not support or like their president?

Respect. You salute the rank, not the man. I'm not even in the military and I know that much.

Saluting the rank is an obligation.

Saluting the man is respect.

There is a big difference.

I can respect a rank it's accomplishments (such as defending ground in times a certain death), yet not respect the man.. No?

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Yes, authority and accomplishments are to be respected (in most cases). How you get there is a big factor, of course. I'm not saying you are wrong, but that respect for rank is still "forced", if you will. (The boss isn't always right, but he's always the boss).

I'm just pointing out that one is greater than the other, and carries more weight.

And that matters --- a lot.