@salmonpizza
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why have blacks reached the point
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I was and still am on Darren Wilson's side. I still am unsure about the Eric Garner case.
But that doesn't change the fact that I get it. It's not about fairness at this point, it's not about discretion. It's about vengeance. It's not about causing division cause we as a people are already divided. This is about evening out the numbers.
Whether you agree or disagree with him, the people who flagged Damen's threads should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by DonJohnson
ya.... no... this is like the class clown/failure complaining the system is against him. nobody is feeling you other than cuckold white liberals. I'm sick of hearing that blacks are over arrested.If anything, they are UNDERarrested.
As long as the areas of the country with the highest percentage of blacks virtually mirrors the charts for highest numbers of murders, assaults, rapes, car theft, burglaries and other felonies, THEY ARE BEING UNDER ARRESTED.
As Jesse Jackson once said...
—There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.??
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/5978-there-is-nothing-more-painful-to-me-at-this-stage
You can't rationally argue that blacks are being over-arrested until the violent crime rates in places like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Newark and New Orleans is equal to the crime rate in zip codes with the same socioeconomic status and the same majority level of whites.Great WSJ opinion piece at the top of these search results (Google News search gets you around the paywall):
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=police+arent+the+problem&search_plus_one=form
Great strawman essay bruh
Maybe those people flagged it because Damen revels in the murder of innocent cops and it's just inhumane.
war is inhumane sniper. murder is inhumane.
but you know what's just as bad? stopping someone you disagree with from having a voice.
Posted by DonJohnson
here is the truth.Cops would be doing a disservice to the community and societ by NOT profiling blacks and ghetto communities. This is simply a fact due to statistics and likelihood. Do you want your resources wasting time in Beverly Hills kicking rocks or do you want them actually doing what they are paid to do?
Black people can do something about this.
for example,
-stop selling drugs. did anybody put a gun to your head to do this? "OH WE DON'T GOT PLANES! WE DIDN'T BRING NO DRUGS IN HERE. WE DIDN'T BRING GUNS IN HERE!" listen....... DID ANYBODY PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD TO SELL DRUGS? All those people did that by choice.. and you are collateral damage. hate them. not the cops.
bro you didn't watch the video, you don't know what i'm arguing, but thanks for the stats.
Posted by DonJohnson
stats > sensationlized videothe general population is more likely to get killed by a thug than a cop.
nice try.
oh really? not where I'm from...
http://www.sltrib.com/news/1842489-155/killings-by-utah-police-outpacing-gang?fullpage=1
Posted by salmonpizza
war is inhumane sniper. murder is inhumane.but you know what's just as bad? stopping someone you disagree with from having a voice.
Hmm good point. But then again they may have gotten tired of his racist, prejudice bullshit. You can't stop someone from having a voice but you can tune them out. I simply say the flagging was tuning him out.
but I'm not arguing whether the cops that kill people are a necessary evil because I happen to believe that they are.
I'm arguing that it was wrong of the DXP community to vilify and shut down Damen's thread.
Did he glorify in the murder? sure.
put it into the perspective of THIS IS A WAR. I personally hear a lot of right-wingers rejoicing about the prospect of towel-heads being murdered not even a decade ago.
i'm pointing out the hypocrisy.
Posted by Sn1p3r187
Posted by salmonpizza
war is inhumane sniper. murder is inhumane.but you know what's just as bad? stopping someone you disagree with from having a voice.
Hmm good point. But then again they may have gotten tired of his racist, prejudice bullshit. You can't stop someone from having a voice but you can tune them out. I simply say the flagging was tuning him out.click to expand
sorry and I like you so don't take this personal, but that's totally retarded. You know what tuning him out would have been? NOT GOING TO THE THREAD
Posted by DonJohnson
do you know how to read beyond that sensationlistic headline?"45 people had been killed by law enforcement officers in Utah since 2010, accounting for 15 percent" they purposely carved the categories up to sell papers.
15% . the other 85% of murders are committed by who? and brought to justice by whom? Even in your extreme case you're still 6 times more likely to be killed by a criminal than a cop.
Now let's venture out of your well and look at some other areas.
Over a five-year period, data show that fatal shootings by police officers in Utah ranked second only to homicides of intimate partners.
And so far this year, deadly force by police has claimed more lives — 13, including a Saturday shooting in South Jordan — than has violence between spouses and dating partners.
but you're still arguing a strawman so this will be my last response to YOU.
Posted by CluelessCancer
Were the cops killed even white, i read one of their names as Ramos. Did this guy take out a mexican.
they took out a latino and an asian.
k u win. I'll reply.
hmm, I'm more likely to get killed by a thug than a cop?
that's the only point I'm refuting because you said that the general public is, I didn't even argue that- just said that's NOT THE CASE WHERE I CAME FROM.
A Salt Lake Tribune review of nearly 300 homicides, using media reports, state crime statistics, medical-examiner records and court records, shows that use of force by police is the second-most common circumstance under which Utahns kill each other, surpassed only by intimate partner violence.
Nope, more likely to get killed by my girlfriend, THEN a cop than I am by a thug. that's all I was pointing out, so yeah... keep on bitching i guess
Posted by KVZZMIR11
Like I mentioned on Damen's thread I these murders as being served that does not get served on regular basis...Justice for 12 year old infant murdered in Ohio!
Justice for woman being beaten and raped!
Justice for man going for stroll outside of his building, being murdered because he looked suspect!
Justice for man being murdered for shopping in Wal-Mart.
In each case the PIG got away for murder and earned himself a paid vacation and returned to their duties in less than a month...
Kill a cop for murdering innocent people....
Cops need to held in HIGHER standards and that won't happen until tax payers start EXECUTING them!
see as an aquarius you're able to think outside the box.
but you're still wrong in a huge way.
that's not justice at all lmao. that's the christian idea of justice, where one person can atone for another person's sins. that's not reality though. if i as a cop rape your entire family, you killing ME would be justice. you killing someone who isn't related is not justice.
here's the real kicker; justice is and always has been an illusion. it's based on the premise that we can somehow gauge what OUGHT to be. we can't do that. but even with our weak definitions of justice, we're still incapable of carrying it out.
fuck justice though, this isn't about justice. this is just about an ongoing war, and in war there is no justice.
yes seraph, i realize the community has every RIGHT to flag threads.
I'm making the point that I believe in this instance it was wrong of the community to do so.
Posted by salmonpizza
Posted by Sn1p3r187
Posted by salmonpizza
war is inhumane sniper. murder is inhumane.but you know what's just as bad? stopping someone you disagree with from having a voice.
Hmm good point. But then again they may have gotten tired of his racist, prejudice bullshit. You can't stop someone from having a voice but you can tune them out. I simply say the flagging was tuning him out.
sorry and I like you so don't take this personal, but that's totally retarded. You know what tuning him out would have been? NOT GOING TO THE THREAD
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Nah. I'm sure those people saw the thread. I like you too you're an alright guy but they already knew what it was going to be about. Tuning out could have two meanings here. Ignoring him or shutting him down for his threads so it'll save people a fight, a flame war, and the controversy. I mean there's nothing stopping you from flagging a thread you hate but there's stopping you from getting your voice and opinion heard, just expect repercussions. They didn't make the rules, duncan did. It's a default thing that if people hate the thread that much they can flag it and after a certain number of flags it'll get deleted.
yes people have a right to shut down his voice.
just because you have a right to do something doesn't make it right to do it.
the reason it was wrong in this case is exactly as you outlined:
they already knew what it was going to be about. Tuning out could have two meanings here. Ignoring him or shutting him down for his threads so it'll save people a fight, a flame war, and the controversy.
let's break it down. if they already knew what it was going to be about, then they went in and fought and argued because they wanted to. that makes them as culpable as damen.
ignoring or shutting down? well, if everyone who didn't like him ignored him, I imagine less people would have read it. Because the thread drew a bit of attention before it was deleted.
but why did they do it? it didn't NEED to be a fight, it didn't really PREVENT a flame war, and ultimately it was only done to save people from controversy.
That's where I say fuck that noise. Controversy is essential
Posted by salmonpizza
yes people have a right to shut down his voice.just because you have a right to do something doesn't make it right to do it.
the reason it was wrong in this case is exactly as you outlined:
they already knew what it was going to be about. Tuning out could have two meanings here. Ignoring him or shutting him down for his threads so it'll save people a fight, a flame war, and the controversy.
let's break it down. if they already knew what it was going to be about, then they went in and fought and argued because they wanted to. that makes them as culpable as damen.
ignoring or shutting down? well, if everyone who didn't like him ignored him, I imagine less people would have read it. Because the thread drew a bit of attention before it was deleted.
but why did they do it? it didn't NEED to be a fight, it didn't really PREVENT a flame war, and ultimately it was only done to save people from controversy.
That's where I say fuck that noise. Controversy is essential
Huh. Good point. But even then while may not be the right thing to do. I highly doubt people are thinking of rights and wrongs in situations like those. They can think about it afterwards and reflect upon it. But as they said they thought it was inappropriate so in that case no one's stopping em. A good example of this would be if someone flagged Rabbit's thread about his poop. No one did because it was light hearted and was aimed in a comedy direction and the OP ain't exactly a complete asshole. Damen throws in too much bias and it's known every thread is aimed at being vindictive towards white people and so it offends them ,they have every right to be offended at his racist opinion and so have every right to shut him down. See what I mean? A little bit?
Posted by salmonpizza
I was and still am on Darren Wilson's side. I still am unsure about the Eric Garner case.But that doesn't change the fact that I get it. It's not about fairness at this point, it's not about discretion. It's about vengeance. It's not about causing division cause we as a people are already divided. This is about evening out the numbers.
Whether you agree or disagree with him, the people who flagged Damen's threads should be ashamed of themselves.
Based on your posting history, I smell sock puppet.
Posted by DonJohnsonlmao. i already addressed the point you are repeating.
""45 people had been killed by law enforcement officers in Utah since 2010, accounting for 15 percent" they purposely carved the categories up to sell papers. "
i don't need you to redefine those categories. you are not saying anything new. hilarious.
that is 45 out of 300 homicides. WHICH IS 15% . You are still 6 times more likely to be killed by a criminal than a cop.
what part of this fact do you not get? the strawman is all you.
seriously, why do you concern yourself with matters that have absolutely nothing to do with you? are you that desperate for attention?
you're a Canadian Asian living in Canada bro..you have no dog in this fight..and if you did you'd eat it after it fought
i mean,real Chinese people don't even respect you,lol..just like your gf, who disrespects you constantly as well, and you accept it because you're weak like your pathetic father
i do see what you mean. i understand why people did it. i still disagree with it.
at the end of the day, damen is no more biased than anyone else.
the tricky thing is its near impossible to recognize bias in oneself or in people who happen agree with oneself.
much easier to identify bias in the adversary.
but really, we have don johnson in this thread who makes racist threads and remarks all the time. and i don't care if HIS threads are shut down. but the fact is that they aren't.
and why aren't they?
I think it's because the threads he makes are racist towards blacks. Seems people are more accepting of that than racism towards whites. that's more of what i consider hypocrisy.
do you see what i mean? just a little?
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by salmonpizza
Posted by CluelessCancer
Were the cops killed even white, i read one of their names as Ramos. Did this guy take out a mexican.
they took out a latino and an asian.
What an idiot.
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agreed. unless you're calling me an idiot, then i disagree.
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
Posted by salmonpizza
I was and still am on Darren Wilson's side. I still am unsure about the Eric Garner case.But that doesn't change the fact that I get it. It's not about fairness at this point, it's not about discretion. It's about vengeance. It's not about causing division cause we as a people are already divided. This is about evening out the numbers.
Whether you agree or disagree with him, the people who flagged Damen's threads should be ashamed of themselves.
Based on your posting history, I smell sock puppet.
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yes that completely invalidates the content of what i post.
right?
right?
Yeah I have a "right" to object as well, and make use of mechanisms available to remove obvious vulgarity.
Inappropriate is inappropriate. And it wasn't just me flagging it. Anyone can have their "voice", but abusing that opportunity carries its own consequences.
You can have your "controversy" all you like, but as with everything, there are boundaries. You can have your debate, but just as important as your message is how you frame it.
This is basic common sense. And I'm surprised there's so little of it.
I really only disagree in that I don't believe that you can "abuse" your right to say whatever you want by saying whatever you want.
And I don't think that the framework of a message is equally as important as the message, unless it's a formal setting. I think the point of communication is to get your point across and if you do that, then you have succeeded. To suggest how you say something is equivalent to what you say outside of a formal setting suggests pretension (not accusing you personally)
they enjoy & allow don johnson posts because he says things that they want to say, but are afraid to show their true colors because they actually care about how people view them on a website..
To answer the OP....
Blacks are their own worse enemy. I preach this over and over and I am part black. I don't care what folks think about me but I would never be "part" of the black beliefs.
As a race you cannot expect other races or people to respect you if you kill your own people for reasons that are beyond unreasonable. You do not respect yourselves. You kill for a small plastic bag of a weed. You kill for sneakers, money, a woman. You glorify women yet shun them when it comes to dating or marriage by saying they are angry. Your prejudiced within your own race...light, dark, nappy hair straight hair..
People on the outside see all of this. The see the disrespect not only towards each other but the pointing of fingers because of the economic status they remain in. All other races benefit from the mentality of Blacks. They put hair/nail shops, liquor stores, 7-11's, Chinese food,and churches all around the ghetto's. What is around other neighborhoods? Banks, malls, sub ways, starbucks, etc...Truly think about how society sees Black people. They see the disrespect within themselves and have no respect for them as well.
Black people will come together only for stupid reasons. Yet the same person who shot his "homie" is marching because a cop shot his "brother" They will toss aside their own women calling them names and go for other races saying they are better. Ignorance...White people are still doing what they have been eradicating anyone who is seen as a threat and becoming the majority of the rich, Mexicans..do what they do..stick together, work hard and not complain...Asian just come over and get all the money they can..since anyone here in this country is silly enough to buy the cheap stuff they make.
So we have a bunch of "punks" who wanted to show up the police. Being Black in America means you better have your shit together when the police run up on you. If not regardless of what you have done or not did..your going to pay for it. Is it fair...no..will it end..no. As long as black people represent themselves in such a distasteful manner this will continue. You want respect? Earn it. You want everyone to take you seriously? Then work towards that and out of this lazy man mode you are known for. I am not saying all blacks but yes 80-85% blacks have this jacked up mentality. My mother was white. I am lucky enough to see both sides of the coin. I have been shunned by blacks though I look more black than white..my sister the opposite looked more white than black still shunned.
Funny I had this conversation and I was told I was wrong so I asked a question to a fellow black man..you live in a all white neighborhood... Why not live in the good ole ghetto with your fellow brothers..They laughed it off and said hell no..I wouldn't live there if someone paid me. I said point made. Black people are wrong for this protest..wrong for this killing. They need to march for bettering themselves from within...Respect starts at home...until then it is a free for all for others to kill them as they are killing themselves.
This guy who just did what he did...yeah he was a scared punk..by killing himself. You believe that what was done was wrong man up to that! Don't get revenge and run and kill yourself...Big dummy....
thanks for a thought out response SpinCycle.
I never said I agreed with Damen.
I never said I agree with cop slaying.
All I said is that I understand it. And I posted a video, containing stats and yes, some emotional appeals. Because, to white people, it's NOT as emotional as it would be if it were their families. Or if it were them.
And the reason I did that is because it appeared to be hypocritical of the DXP community to shut down Damen's thread in light of everything else they appear okay with.
Someone called me a fucking mutt on here once, no one batted an eye. Someone called a gay user a faggot in another thread, and that wasn't shut down. Why?
Why, why why?
So I posted a video that I hoped people might watch, so that maybe they could understand both sides of the issue.
I have my own experiences with cops and I'll take credit for almost all of them. Cause I was breaking the law.
Except that one time when I was 16 and just walking down the sidewalk. And the next thing I know I have a gun aimed 2 feet from my skull and a cop yelling at me to get the fuck on the ground. Why? Oh, they got confused because I walked past a movie theater on my way home from work and they thought I was stealing from it. Why? Because they saw me walk past it. So they fucking ambushed me.
Most white Americans will never fucking understand what it's like to be forced to the ground at gunpoint and searched for the crime of walking home.
Most people (not just white or americans) would rather twiddle their thumbs in their ears than listen to uncomfortable truths.
Posted by SpinCycle
So we have a bunch of "punks" who wanted to show up the police. Being Black in America means you better have your shit together when the police run up on you. If not regardless of what you have done or not did..your going to pay for it. Is it fair...no..will it end..no. As long as black people represent themselves in such a distasteful manner this will continue. You want respect? Earn it. You want everyone to take you seriously? Then work towards that and out of this lazy man mode you are known for. I am not saying all blacks but yes 80-85% blacks have this jacked up mentality. My mother was white. I am lucky enough to see both sides of the coin. I have been shunned by blacks though I look more black than white..my sister the opposite looked more white than black still shunned.Funny I had this conversation and I was told I was wrong so I asked a question to a fellow black man..you live in a all white neighborhood... Why not live in the good ole ghetto with your fellow brothers..They laughed it off and said hell no..I wouldn't live there if someone paid me. I said point made. Black people are wrong for this protest..wrong for this killing. They need to march for bettering themselves from within...Respect starts at home...until then it is a free for all for others to kill them as they are killing themselves.
This guy who just did what he did...yeah he was a scared punk..by killing himself. You believe that what was done was wrong man up to that! Don't get revenge and run and kill yourself...Big dummy....
idk if your a troll or not since i've never noticed you post, but if not then you're a boot licking coon and need to take a seat on this train..
Posted by SpinCycle
So we have a bunch of "punks" who wanted to show up the police. Being Black in America means you better have your shit together when the police run up on you. If not regardless of what you have done or not did..your going to pay for it. Is it fair...no..will it end..no. As long as black people represent themselves in such a distasteful manner this will continue. You want respect? Earn it. You want everyone to take you seriously? Then work towards that and out of this lazy man mode you are known for. I am not saying all blacks but yes 80-85% blacks have this jacked up mentality. My mother was white. I am lucky enough to see both sides of the coin. I have been shunned by blacks though I look more black than white..my sister the opposite looked more white than black still shunned.
victim blaming though
Posted by Slicks
I enjoyed the back and forth in damen's thread. It was interesting to watch the discussion developSomeone even reported the NYPD lmao
yeah, that's really what this is all about. i was entertained and then got butt-hurt when it was erased. i wanted to see how it would develop from there.
seriously tho
thanks slicks. i really appreciate that.
As annoying as Damen is I don't think that thread should have been flagged.
Just as much controversial shit gets said in other threads and they stay up.
I think flagging should only be used for uber personal attacks on DXP posters.
Posted by tiziani
I think flagging should be used arbitrarily, at a few people's discretion and purely to make a public example of others.
It already is
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
As annoying as Damen is I don't think that thread should have been flagged.
Just as much controversial shit gets said in other threads and they stay up.I think flagging should only be used for uber personal attacks on DXP posters.
+1
Posted by tiziani
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
Posted by tiziani
I think flagging should be used arbitrarily, at a few people's discretion and purely to make a public example of others.
It already is
Excellent. Long live the Republic!
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boo
Posted by salmonpizza
Posted by Slicks
I enjoyed the back and forth in damen's thread. It was interesting to watch the discussion developSomeone even reported the NYPD lmao
yeah, that's really what this is all about. i was entertained and then got butt-hurt when it was erased. i wanted to see how it would develop from there.
seriously tho
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As if...
If someone created a thread glorifying the killing of 2 blacks you would sit around to see how it develops?
Ok, now haha
Posted by cilantro
Tim Wise.you can see his other stuff on youtube. great speaker.
this is great
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Posted by salmonpizza
Posted by Slicks
I enjoyed the back and forth in damen's thread. It was interesting to watch the discussion developSomeone even reported the NYPD lmao
yeah, that's really what this is all about. i was entertained and then got butt-hurt when it was erased. i wanted to see how it would develop from there.
seriously tho
As if...
If someone created a thread glorifying the killing of 2 blacks you would sit around to see how it develops?
Ok, now haha
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A. If it was entertaining enough I would. I'm not the one claiming morality, I'm just accusing hypocrisy.
B. Technically Damen's thread was about the killing of a latino. *I* am latino. so...
Oh pardon... 2 non-blacks then... Better?
Wasn't another cop killed today?
Posted by tiziani
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
Posted by tiziani
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
Posted by tiziani
I think flagging should be used arbitrarily, at a few people's discretion and purely to make a public example of others.
It already is
Excellent. Long live the Republic!
boo
this video kills me every time man, just the opening, not the whole thing
The way he lowers his voice as he slips in that one line under the carpet
"What is in your best interest... is to do as we say"
lmao
I just wanna know how u came about that video in the first place
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Oh pardon... 2 non-blacks then... Better?
really, I was being tongue-in-cheek.
I don't support the glorification of the celebration of any innocent person's death.
or*
Salmonpizza your just a pussy on some fake account.
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Salmonpizza your just a pussy on some fake account.
It's damen lol
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Salmonpizza your just a pussy on some fake account.
Do you have something against pussies? Or are you just respond to what I say by insulting women because that's the best you got?
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Salmonpizza your just a pussy on some fake account.It's damen lol
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it's not
Posted by salmonpizza
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Salmonpizza your just a pussy on some fake account.It's damen lol
it's not
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Ok
Posted by AirMan
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Oh pardon... 2 non-blacks then... Better?
um pardon me...but you remind me so much of my fellow gem, misslissa. maybe its the avi's you both have.
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Yeah maybe 🙂
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where they can revel in the murder of innocent cops:
because WAR is necessary for change and WAR is categorized by collateral damage.
This war hasn't been a long time coming. The war has ALWAYS been on between cops and non-whites