Morality

in tv shows theres always this thread of morality that keeps the character decisions fairly predictable. Obviously we want to fantasize that prople do the right thing, and if they don't then they wear the black hats, and shame on them, they are bad.

I find that watching these fantasy, doesn't make me feel like the world is right this way. It just seems reinforces the lies that keep us disapointed.

what benifits are there accepting the concept of morality. I get the benefits to living in a society and the consequence and repercussions. but how does believing in the concept of mortality benefit u as an individual? if the belief that someone did you wrong upsets you, can you just stop assigning an action right or wrong and just simply an action.

Personally I'm a big fan of anti-villains.

Posted by Ram416
Personally I'm a big fan of anti-villains.

yeah, but do you have the moral expectations in your life, do you have the expectation that people treat you act in a way tgat meets a universal social standard? if someone hits you car and drives away, do u feel angry that they wronged u.

Posted by LePetitFisk
To a degree. Smaller transgression are easier to overlook. But I think everyone has their own sliding scale.

I moon really is leaning towards throughing that scale out all together tho. fuck it all, but i mean that would solve the problem if giving power to what u perceive as negative, but then devalue the good you believe. hmmm?

I have my morals but I also have principles and principles come from experiencing certain situations and finding out that this works for me so I stick to it.

I’ve always believed that there is no right or wrong and thinking makes it so and the Aquarian in me is always aware that there is a journey that leads up to peoples actions it’s so easy for me to put myself in their shoes and sympathised with them even though they did something wrong.

I watch a shit load of judge Judy and what I learnt from her is that if you do do something wrong it’s not the end of the world just pay the fine, and do the time. But I also learn if someone does bad by you then you are doing them a service by suing them and making them pay the price so they know better in the future.

And if they don’t pay that price then let karma guide you

Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
I have my morals but I also have principles and principles come from experiencing certain situations and finding out that this works for me so I stick to it.

I’ve always believed that there is no right or wrong and thinking makes it so and the Aquarian in me is always aware that there is a journey that leads up to peoples actions it’s so easy for me to put myself in their shoes and sympathised with them even though they did something wrong.

I watch a shit load of judge Judy and what I learnt from her is that if you do do something wrong it’s not the end of the world just pay the fine, and do the time. But I also learn if someone does bad by you then you are doing them a service by suing them and making them pay the price so they know better in the future.

And if they don’t pay that price then let karma guide you

idk, it kida feels like you weren't listening to what i was proposing, and just started rambling on about ur own opinion.

It gives you the benefit of knowing that you didn't selfishly use someone else for your own gain. When it comes down to it, all we have is each other as the greatest mysteries of life will always be indiscernible given that they are beyond the scope of our limited understanding.

Having said that, the universe is likely impartial and our tiny machinations are probably largely irrelevant even if you take into account cause and effect.

Posted by Astrobyn
in tv shows theres always this thread of morality that keeps the character decisions fairly predictable. Obviously we want to fantasize that prople do the right thing, and if they don't then they wear the black hats, and shame on them, they are bad.

I find that watching these fantasy, doesn't make me feel like the world is right this way. It just seems reinforces the lies that keep us disapointed.

what benifits are there accepting the concept of morality. I get the benefits to living in a society and the consequence and repercussions. but how does believing in the concept of mortality benefit u as an individual? if the belief that someone did you wrong upsets you, can you just stop assigning an action right or wrong and just simply an action.

there's no real benefit as an individual, why would it have that? the human specie evolved to live in a society, to be altruistic, we need to trust each other in order for society to exist, and we "made" the code, the explanation our brains wanted in order to belive this blind trust of others is logical.

Posted by Astrobyn I get the benefits to living in a society and the consequence and repercussions. but how does believing in the concept of mortality benefit u as an individual?.

Simple answer: I sleep better at night.

More complex answer is along the lines of: morality on a personal level eventually extends to the society as a whole. It provides that social framework. I think without it people discover just how thin the proverbial "veneer of civilization" really is.

Not sure why you'd go to media in search of morals considering it'ss just a tool of government conditioning. Opinion shapers would be best to describe it.

That's why the predictability and good always triumphs evil. What government would like unpredictable citizens that think they can win against it?

Hollywood, US DoD and CIA are heavily connected, have been for years now.

"On television, we found more than 1,100 titles received Pentagon backing – 900 of them since 2005, from ‘Flight 93’ to ‘Ice Road Truckers’ and ‘Army Wives’

Files we obtained, mainly through the US Freedom of Information Act, show that between 1911 and 2017, more than 800 feature films received support from the US Government’s Department of Defence (DoD), a significantly higher figure than previous estimates indicate. These included blockbuster franchises such as Transformers, Iron Man, and The Terminator.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washington-dc-films-fbi-24-intervening-close-relationship-a7918191.html

This isn't even mentioning the Hollywood hypocrisy of exporting "values" while a #metoo scandal kept brewing in the background.

Why I love watching the 100. Even though they’ve killed off all my favs. Cause morality isn’t fixed. And they always bring things full circle. I love myself a good character arc.

Posted by halalbae
Primitive Darwinism. Altruism is the underlying foundation of morality and prevelent across different, almost every, species. Its not an exclusively human concept. Moral behavior provides survival benefits, thats why it evolves in many species. Sharing, warning, protecting. Mutually increasing survivability.

What separates us from other species is that we have the cognitive ability to recognize our own social constructs and from there we've instilled concepts like heroism and empathy. Which can result in risking or even sacrificing that very life we tried to protect, in order to save another being... going completely against that primitive concept I wrote about. It in fact is to its detriment because of the social constructs. It promotes selfishness and renders humanity more susceptible to division and manipulation

Personally, I like primitive altruistic values but it enables us to become willingly exploited. I TRY to be more into rational egoism because that very concept of morality/conscience/altruism/heroism/empathy/etc actually does NOT serve evolutionary benefits in terms of survival.
Rational egoism does: not depending on others in the socialist sense but also not depending on others in an amoral sense. Its about the pursuit of own happiness, independent from outside influence or pressure to self sacrifice and without using others in a non-cosentual way. Its like a rational morality of self interest

altruism / morality provides us with social boundaries - yes, a survival mechanism