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Pitbulls
Posted by Neurotoxin
If you get a pit from a reputable breeder that does not breed for agressiveness and as a puppy, they can be great family dogs. They were in fact bred as nanny dogs to watch the house and children.
The reality of the situation is, however, most pits are bred for agressiveness and not raised properly.
I occasionally volunteer doing dog rescues and adoptions, and in 10 years we've been able to place just one pit successfully. The rest were just unsuitable. It's sad really.
Just one-- that's interesting.
This rescue places quite a few, both in fostering and adoption; they're pretty dedicated, but after this, I wonder what or how they determine that a dog has been "rehabilitated".
I'm kind of scared to ask, but what do they do with the rest who aren't suitable?
Posted by NeurotoxinPosted by MontgomeryPosted by Neurotoxin
If you get a pit from a reputable breeder that does not breed for agressiveness and as a puppy, they can be great family dogs. They were in fact bred as nanny dogs to watch the house and children.
The reality of the situation is, however, most pits are bred for agressiveness and not raised properly.
I occasionally volunteer doing dog rescues and adoptions, and in 10 years we've been able to place just one pit successfully. The rest were just unsuitable. It's sad really.
Just one-- that's interesting.
This rescue places quite a few, both in fostering and adoption; they're pretty dedicated, but after this, I wonder what or how they determine that a dog has been "rehabilitated".
I'm kind of scared to ask, but what do they do with the rest who aren't suitable?
Usually passed off to specialized pit rescue groups where they are fostered by people familiar with larger more aggressive dogs. I know a couple were also placed with law enforcement training programs as well.
The group I work with usually tries to place family type animals. And some dogs, not just pits, don't fall into that category.click to expand
That's good to know. 🙂
And yeah-- it isn't just pits.
Sucks to see something like this happen, regardless.
Mainly owners are blamed for pitbull behaviour, but pitbulls are known to be of 'unexpected' behaviour and dangerous.
Same goes for dobermans. They are a hybrid breed and as the MYTH goes, as they grow older, their brains do not fit into their skulls, which turns them apparently 'insane'.
My niece has a doberman and she is the most sweet dog... I love, love, love her... she is like a little baby full of love. However when it comes to physiology, unfortunately, they can turn dangerous in time.
Statistically speaking, I have not come across a paper suggesting a particular reason why some dogs are considered dangerous.
Pitbull, Doberman and Rottweiler are in the category of dogs to be agressive.
Some other papers show that ALL DOGS BITE, but due to the physiology of a dog, like a pitbulls strong, squared jaw or a Doberman's strong jaw, their bites can turn fatal to those who they attack.
Now I researched a little on the Doberman and I have a personal theory here, which can be further investigated. Perhaps it is not the story on the brain size versus skull size, but they seem to have problems with their glandulars, thyroid, and vertebrae deformaties that PERHAPS cause their aggressivity either due to her hormones or the pain caused by deformities in their bodies and conclusively can lead to attacks.
Same goes for dobermans. They are a hybrid breed and as the MYTH goes, as they grow older, their brains do not fit into their skulls, which turns them apparently 'insane'.
My niece has a doberman and she is the most sweet dog... I love, love, love her... she is like a little baby full of love. However when it comes to physiology, unfortunately, they can turn dangerous in time.
Statistically speaking, I have not come across a paper suggesting a particular reason why some dogs are considered dangerous.
Pitbull, Doberman and Rottweiler are in the category of dogs to be agressive.
Some other papers show that ALL DOGS BITE, but due to the physiology of a dog, like a pitbulls strong, squared jaw or a Doberman's strong jaw, their bites can turn fatal to those who they attack.
Now I researched a little on the Doberman and I have a personal theory here, which can be further investigated. Perhaps it is not the story on the brain size versus skull size, but they seem to have problems with their glandulars, thyroid, and vertebrae deformaties that PERHAPS cause their aggressivity either due to her hormones or the pain caused by deformities in their bodies and conclusively can lead to attacks.
Just as a humble opinion and for the sake of theory, perhaps your friend can have their pitbull checked for any thyroid issues or any deformity causing pain.
Honestly, I wouldn't get those dogs into my living space, as lovely as they are...
Honestly, I wouldn't get those dogs into my living space, as lovely as they are...
I own a pit...sweetest dog ever! Raised him as a puppy...I would be leery though of rescue pits...just because I have no idea how they were raised.
My city recently did a survey/study and went around with pics of pits and similar breeds....majority of people couldnt even identify the pit. Majority of pit attacks ...the dogs are a mix of pit and something else....it's sad that they have such a bad persona attached to them. All dogs will attack...its not just certain breeds. Pits ranked higher than most dogs on the temperament test they give.
They are the most loyal loving dogs...love my big ol fat fatty princess (yes I call him a princess lol)...he is the best dog I've ever owned.
My city recently did a survey/study and went around with pics of pits and similar breeds....majority of people couldnt even identify the pit. Majority of pit attacks ...the dogs are a mix of pit and something else....it's sad that they have such a bad persona attached to them. All dogs will attack...its not just certain breeds. Pits ranked higher than most dogs on the temperament test they give.
They are the most loyal loving dogs...love my big ol fat fatty princess (yes I call him a princess lol)...he is the best dog I've ever owned.
yup. and that's why we had to give them away to the pet shelter.
SHOULD HAVE KEEP THEM THEY MAKE A GREAT STEW.
SHOULD HAVE KEEP THEM THEY MAKE A GREAT STEW.
THE AMERICAN SHORTS THEY HAD IN THE MOVIES LONG AGO WE HAD THEM HERE A FEW YEARS AGO
(THE LITTLE RASCIALS)
PEATEE THE DOG WAS A PIT BULL
(THE LITTLE RASCIALS)
PEATEE THE DOG WAS A PIT BULL
I had a rockwiler and a pit.
My Roc I gave away because she was a handful and my pitt i kept till he was 2 years old.
He was like a cat, was nerver aggressive and barely barked. I agree with alot of other coments its based on the breeder and the owner (s) because my roc after a few months shed growl at me or bark at me when she seen me she didnt remember me, even though they say they dont forget a scent.
My Roc I gave away because she was a handful and my pitt i kept till he was 2 years old.
He was like a cat, was nerver aggressive and barely barked. I agree with alot of other coments its based on the breeder and the owner (s) because my roc after a few months shed growl at me or bark at me when she seen me she didnt remember me, even though they say they dont forget a scent.
My Pit
Hmmm... doesn't show up in Firefox, works fine in Internet Explorer.
Mine will attack alright... she'll lick ya to death 😛
She also paws at me to get under the covers at night. She'll put her head on the pillow next to me. I'll roll over and cuddle with her. She kisses me in the morning at 7am sharp to wake me too. She's my alarm clock.
She also paws at me to get under the covers at night. She'll put her head on the pillow next to me. I'll roll over and cuddle with her. She kisses me in the morning at 7am sharp to wake me too. She's my alarm clock.
Posted by lildol
Mine will attack alright... she'll lick ya to death 😛
She also paws at me to get under the covers at night. She'll put her head on the pillow next to me. I'll roll over and cuddle with her. She kisses me in the morning at 7am sharp to wake me too. She's my alarm clock.
Hahaha...mine does the same. He will lift up my arm to get under the covers...he used to sleep on the pillow but now he sleeps down the side of my leg. Mine will still be in bed...even after I've been up for a while...then he strolls out of the bedroom when hes ready lol. sometimes he doesnt even greet me at the door because he is sleeping under the covers. Ill have to go in there and wake him up...my dog is weird!
Posted by MilkySoftPosted by size zero superheroPosted by Ssasy
I had a rockwiler and a pit.
My Roc I gave away because she was a handful and my pitt i kept till he was 2 years old.
Please say you're joking. Rockwiler?! And you owned one but haven't the faintest idea how the breed's name is spelled or pronounced? LMAO.
Yeah those Rockwilers sure are a handful...
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OMG hahaha!
Posted by seraphPosted by alohamora
People shouldn't put so much trust in animals, just as one shouldn't put so much trust in another human being. These domesticated pets are the way they are, because humans have tamed them overtime. Still animals though and humans deny that fact that these are ANIMALS. For what? For our own benefit and amusements. You can say that an owner is giving its pet the care and love that it needs, but do you really know what it needs? It's not just pitbulls that have attacked their owners, there are other type of dogs out there that have attacked owners and young children.
Dogs are still animals, still have that animal instinct just as humans do. They just become tamed.
Ok, but WHAT area you saying, exactly?
The vast majority of dogs DO have their needs met, and ARE perfectly fine with people. Domesticated dogs WANT and NEED people. As was mentioned previously, dogs have evolved alongside people (as companions, workers, and for any other number of benign purposes) for *thousands* of years. If there was a significant issue with them, it's pretty obvious that folks wouldn't have moved forward with it. I haven't exactly seen King Cobras on offer at the local shelter. Have you?
So while it's obvious that dogs are wild animals, *they are also domesticated*, which means that on average, they are not a problem, and what's more, they've more than proven their worth to people, as companions, as *workers*, and very often as creatures that contribute abundantly to our own good.
Additionally, w'ere talking about Pit Bulls, where the "they're still kinda wild" argument can be made to some degree because the breed is demonstrably temperamental. But making the same argument for breeds, such as, say, German Shepherds or all other breeds, is useless. The ratio of dog value/usefulness vs. danger/attacks on humans is skewed *by far* toward the former.
So what point are you trying to make exactly?click to expand
Snakes are expensive (to buy & to keep) & are sold under very strict rules, at least that's how it is done here. So I doubt you'll ever find any up for adoption. You can adopt a toy one from a lucky packet, though. Or a live one straight from the jungle.
Posted by seraphPosted by thebiggcarlos12345678910
^^^i'm guessing you copied and pasted all that, seraph. there's no way no one can type all that in less than a minute. ijs.
Obviously.
I included the link.
And the copyright. 😉
Posted by seraphPosted by alohamora
Animals belong in the wild. Even humans have animalistic tendencies, what more would you expect from a dog?
Dogs are animals, but they are not "wild" as such.
They are domesticated.
Tell a K-9 unit dog handler that uses dogs to assist police in fighting crime, and the owner of a seeing-eye dog that they belong in the wild, and you'll get some interesting looks.
Dogs have their place in human life. The majority of domesticated dogs, if put back into the wild, would not survive.
Now, you can make an argument that dogs should not be bred for domestication in the first place, but at this time that is quite an unrealistic idea.click to expand
Exactly.
Man/dog relationship is mutually beneficial-- of that, I have no doubt.
My concern is that this breed shows no warning before attack, unlike most (?) other dogs.
They actually thought the dog may have been in the grip of a seizure, because she seemed to have "snapped".
Posted by Ssasy
I had a rockwiler and a pit.
My Roc I gave away because she was a handful and my pitt i kept till he was 2 years old.
He was like a cat, was nerver aggressive and barely barked. I agree with alot of other coments its based on the breeder and the owner (s) because my roc after a few months shed growl at me or bark at me when she seen me she didnt remember me, even though they say they dont forget a scent.
I had a rottie/shepherd mix-- such a smart dog.
But I'm not as fond of the full-blooded version, for some reason-- maybe I was just partial to my own, but mixed breeds seem to be smarter.
No offense intended to anyone, of course.
🙂
Posted by thebiggcarlos12345678910
ellessque, he's a golden retriever. do you know all the things that a golden retriever can do? why do you think i have a golden retriever? there's a reason to that. and it's not because i have control issues which i don't. so imma let you guess 😄. why do you think i have a golden retriever?
"some humans can't fully comprehend like animals can."
I found this confusing because a human has no business acting like a dog.
And if they do, it should not be considered a redeeming quality-- but an indicator that some serious therapy is in order.
BEST DOG I EVER HAD WAS AN AIRDALE
Posted by NeurotoxinPosted by alohamora
Seraph- suggest? I wasn't about to suggest anythin, just putting my two cents like everyone else.
Dogs and humans evolved together and assisted one another mutually in evolving. This is generally accepted by many paleontologists and anthropologists.
Humans and dogs have a special evolutionary bond, much like humans and horses, and we as humans have a responsibility to treat them with respect above and beyond other animals.
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Oh, that's good stuff-- I agree.
The breed of dog will act like it's breed. Simple.
Looks like the pit was threatened/challenged in some way and it just reacted the way it's wired to react.
I'm sorry for what happened.
I'm sorry for what happened.
My brother rescued a bull terrier x as a puppy (thrown in a river to drown) and while she looks tough she is the silliest, sweetest dog...
But she is naughty when bored and still very bouncy at 10 years and has knocked my niece over a couple of times.
People will incorrectly call her a pit bull, and people will avoid her, cross the road with their dogs just due to the 'look' of her.
Sadly I think there has been too much damage done to both the reputation and breeding of these dogs to ever really reverse public opinion.
I too would hesitate to get a rescue dog despite knowing what lovely animals they can be, the damage to a puppy is just too great a risk.
In other matters, I would love to get an Alaskan Klee Kai...! How adorable are they??! Impossible in NZ though.
But she is naughty when bored and still very bouncy at 10 years and has knocked my niece over a couple of times.
People will incorrectly call her a pit bull, and people will avoid her, cross the road with their dogs just due to the 'look' of her.
Sadly I think there has been too much damage done to both the reputation and breeding of these dogs to ever really reverse public opinion.
I too would hesitate to get a rescue dog despite knowing what lovely animals they can be, the damage to a puppy is just too great a risk.
In other matters, I would love to get an Alaskan Klee Kai...! How adorable are they??! Impossible in NZ though.
Hey Feby! I think they are just about the cutest little things in the universe ATM...!!! 🙂
Posted by LostinmyMind11
I own a pit...sweetest dog ever! Raised him as a puppy...I would be leery though of rescue pits...just because I have no idea how they were raised.
My city recently did a survey/study and went around with pics of pits and similar breeds....majority of people couldnt even identify the pit. Majority of pit attacks ...the dogs are a mix of pit and something else....it's sad that they have such a bad persona attached to them. All dogs will attack...its not just certain breeds. Pits ranked higher than most dogs on the temperament test they give.
They are the most loyal loving dogs...love my big ol fat fatty princess (yes I call him a princess lol)...he is the best dog I've ever owned.
I was gonna post a pic of mine earlier but couldn't at work...but seriously look at that face and tell me how scary he is! You can see it in his eyes that he is nothing but a big fat ball of love. Can he snap?..of course he can and im not oblivious to that... just the risk you take owning an animal
Posted by BlueSandCacoon
Looks like the pit was threatened/challenged in some way and it just reacted the way it's wired to react.
I'm sorry for what happened.
Aww. Yeah, me too. 🙂
And I think it was, in some way challenged by the other dog-- at least from her perspective.
Thanks
Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by LostinmyMind11
I own a pit...sweetest dog ever! Raised him as a puppy...I would be leery though of rescue pits...just because I have no idea how they were raised.
My city recently did a survey/study and went around with pics of pits and similar breeds....majority of people couldnt even identify the pit. Majority of pit attacks ...the dogs are a mix of pit and something else....it's sad that they have such a bad persona attached to them. All dogs will attack...its not just certain breeds. Pits ranked higher than most dogs on the temperament test they give.
They are the most loyal loving dogs...love my big ol fat fatty princess (yes I call him a princess lol)...he is the best dog I've ever owned.
I was gonna post a pic of mine earlier but couldn't at work...but seriously look at that face and tell me how scary he is! You can see it in his eyes that he is nothing but a big fat ball of love. Can he snap?..of course he can and im not oblivious to that... just the risk you take owning an animalclick to expand
Haha! What an adorable goofball LIMM- he does look like a big softie.
😄 thank you LilliLou...he totally is!
Posted by PotHeadVirgo24Posted by size zero superheroPosted by alohamora
Only animals that should be tamed are the one's that eats food crumbs off your floor at night and breed in your basement/attic.
BAHAHAHAH.
you're late to the game 🙂
Domestic rats make awesome pets. Very affectionate & able to learn tricks. They're not spastic & stupid like hamsters & rabbits, and are more genetically similar to humans than dogs or cats.
and some get along with pitbulls.
Hey you, don't be talking shit about hamsters! 😭 *Shakes fist*click to expand
Is that your Chinese zodiac sign? LOL! If they don't have hamster yet, maybe they should since their zodiac names are stupid anyway.
Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by LostinmyMind11
I own a pit...sweetest dog ever! Raised him as a puppy...I would be leery though of rescue pits...just because I have no idea how they were raised.
My city recently did a survey/study and went around with pics of pits and similar breeds....majority of people couldnt even identify the pit. Majority of pit attacks ...the dogs are a mix of pit and something else....it's sad that they have such a bad persona attached to them. All dogs will attack...its not just certain breeds. Pits ranked higher than most dogs on the temperament test they give.
They are the most loyal loving dogs...love my big ol fat fatty princess (yes I call him a princess lol)...he is the best dog I've ever owned.
I was gonna post a pic of mine earlier but couldn't at work...but seriously look at that face and tell me how scary he is! You can see it in his eyes that he is nothing but a big fat ball of love. Can he snap?..of course he can and im not oblivious to that... just the risk you take owning an animalclick to expand
Why does your dog remind me of jay zee? 'It's your boy, jigga man'.
Posted by WaterCupPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by LostinmyMind11
I own a pit...sweetest dog ever! Raised him as a puppy...I would be leery though of rescue pits...just because I have no idea how they were raised.
My city recently did a survey/study and went around with pics of pits and similar breeds....majority of people couldnt even identify the pit. Majority of pit attacks ...the dogs are a mix of pit and something else....it's sad that they have such a bad persona attached to them. All dogs will attack...its not just certain breeds. Pits ranked higher than most dogs on the temperament test they give.
They are the most loyal loving dogs...love my big ol fat fatty princess (yes I call him a princess lol)...he is the best dog I've ever owned.
I was gonna post a pic of mine earlier but couldn't at work...but seriously look at that face and tell me how scary he is! You can see it in his eyes that he is nothing but a big fat ball of love. Can he snap?..of course he can and im not oblivious to that... just the risk you take owning an animal
Why does your dog remind me of jay zee? 'It's your boy, jigga man'.click to expand
I can kinda see it now that you say that...hahaha hes got 99 problems but a bitch aint one! 😛
^^ lmao
pits are respected because they will fight to the death..this pit had half of its face ripped off and still kept fighting
Posted by size zero superheroPosted by DAMEN VI
pits are respected because they will fight to the death..this pit had half of its face ripped off and still kept fighting
true warriors
Disgusting & disturbing. This kinda BS is why certain folks are attracted to these dogs; it's merely a supplement to their desired "hard" image. The dog pays the price through endured cruelty--that is to say, if the long-suffering dog doesn't snap on its caretakers first--which by the way, is an easily fatal attack.click to expand
idk who these certain folks you're referring to,but most people i know have & own pits because of their toughness and how they look; it has nothing to do with trying to help make them "look" hard..sounds silly
those dudes in the video were asian, i doubt they cared about an image, it was about money..just like most people that fight dogs..this isn't no worse then hunting for deers & ducks merely for sport as far as i'm concerned
Posted by feby16aquaPosted by Sag89Posted by feby16aqua
Hi and no no not adorable at all 🙂
what kind of dog is that?
Hey it's a Alaskan Klee Ka puppy.
It's my favorite "look" on a doggie.
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me too- obsessed!
Posted by Prince_Pisces
So many cute doggies
omg me too! so adorable! need to huggles them!
Posted by SUT3point0
All the horror stories about pitbulls are because the dogs were abused.
A lot of dudes breed pits out here. 99% are harmless because their owners care for them. Some are bred for strength, some fighting, some for home/trap/dope house defense. It all depends on the owner. That goes for all breeds. Rotts, Dobermans etc. You have breed a chihuahua to be a beast but a chihuahua isnt large enough to be any type of real threat to anything. Same goes for a lot of breeds. Many breeds of pit are specimens so theyre bred for combat and defense.
Thanks, Sut.
What you said about the chihuahua also highlights the fact that even if a pit is doing nothing different from any other dog, they do happen to be more deadly, due to how they're built.
Like Rotties, Dobies, Shepherds, etc-- they can be more dangerous.
Lookatdatmouth!
^ *yawn* 🙂
Posted by DAMEN VI
just like most people that fight dogs..this isn't no worse then hunting for deers & ducks merely for sport as far as i'm concerned
You mean folks who don't eat what they kill, when hunting?
I'd be glad if you'd clarify that, because there isn't anything wrong with it, if it has that purpose.
Most hunters I've come across understand and have respect for the animal, believe it or not.
Hunting only for sport isn't commendable, necessarily-- however, killing an animal vs subjecting it to the ongoing torture of fighting for its own survival-- no, I don't think it's the same.
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by DAMEN VI
just like most people that fight dogs..this isn't no worse then hunting for deers & ducks merely for sport as far as i'm concerned
You mean folks who don't eat what they kill, when hunting?
I'd be glad if you'd clarify that, because there isn't anything wrong with it, if it has that purpose.
Most hunters I've come across understand and have respect for the animal, believe it or not.
Hunting only for sport isn't commendable, necessarily-- however, killing an animal vs subjecting it to the ongoing torture of fighting for its own survival -- no, I don't think it's the same.
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+1000 Monty!
Posted by size zero superhero
First off, how does their being Asian make a difference? Insinuating there's a racial correlation is just preposterous, as is suggesting Asians cannot possibly be image-conscious.
Secondly you claim that pit owners you know chose the breed based on appearance and toughness = IMAGE based reasoning.
"Oh, look at my ~dangerous~ pet and this massive jaw/head, perfect for dog-fighting after I traumatize it enough & break it in, it'll be a furry 4-legged weapon!"
That's the basic mentality of a hostile pit-bull owner--key operative being hostile. Not everybody who owns a pit abuses them to affirm their own images & selfish motives, but those who do take pride in how bad@ $ $ their vicious dog is.
well you're the one insinuated that "certain people" like these dogs to help portray a desired hard image,right? and i honestly have never seen asians walking around with pitbulls, so im still wondering who these certain people you're talking about
and yes people like certain dogs for certain reasons, but that doesn't mean they want the dog because it helps THEM(the person)look a certain way..thats like a gay person saying "yea, since im a lil nancy boy, i have to get a lil nancy dog because it helps add to my nancy ass ways"..
pitbulls,rottweilers,dobermans, and german shepards all can be hostile and tough and are used as guard dogs for that reason..some people just like tuff dogs..nothing wrong with that imo
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by DAMEN VI
just like most people that fight dogs..this isn't no worse then hunting for deers & ducks merely for sport as far as i'm concerned
You mean folks who don't eat what they kill, when hunting?
I'd be glad if you'd clarify that, because there isn't anything wrong with it, if it has that purpose.
Most hunters I've come across understand and have respect for the animal, believe it or not.
Hunting only for sport isn't commendable, necessarily-- however, killing an animal vs subjecting it to the ongoing torture of fighting for its own survival-- no, I don't think it's the same.
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it's all still wrong if your eating them or not,because you're not doing it for survival if you wanna get technical..
and LMAO @ "Most hunters I've come across understand and have respect for the animal"..oh really?,well i wish we could ask the deers and duck how they feel about the situation, because i'm pretty sure they'd think that they're a bunch of sick, camouflage wearing monsters
but really,i don't care about the dogs or the deers, i just figure if one thing is looked down apon and deemed evil, we should look at everything else the same
and a dog that grew up fighting is kinda like a kid growing up in the slums, or a military solider trained for combat,or a professional fighter..if thats what you are conditioned for, or all you know, then is it really torture??
Posted by size zero superheroPosted by Ssasy
I had a rockwiler and a pit.
My Roc I gave away because she was a handful and my pitt i kept till he was 2 years old.
Please say you're joking. Rockwiler?! And you owned one but haven't the faintest idea how the breed's name is spelled or pronounced? LMAO.click to expand
haha yeah sooooooo What lol
you knew wht I meant so I wasnt that off!
Posted by DAMEN VI
it's all still wrong if your eating them or not,because you're not doing it for survival if you wanna get technical..
and LMAO @ "Most hunters I've come across understand and have respect for the animal"..oh really?,well i wish we could ask the deers and duck how they feel about the situation, because i'm pretty sure they'd think that they're a bunch of sick, camouflage wearing monsters
but really,i don't care about the dogs or the deers, i just figure if one thing is looked down apon and deemed evil, we should look at everything else the same
I don't think you grasp the difference between the two; that is, suffering vs not suffering.
Posted by DAMEN VI
and a dog that grew up fighting is kinda like a kid growing up in the slums, or a military solider trained for combat,or a professional fighter..if thats what you are conditioned for, or all you know, then is it really torture??click to expand
Umm-- yes; it most certainly is.
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by DAMEN VI
it's all still wrong if your eating them or not,because you're not doing it for survival if you wanna get technical..
and LMAO @ "Most hunters I've come across understand and have respect for the animal"..oh really?,well i wish we could ask the deers and duck how they feel about the situation, because i'm pretty sure they'd think that they're a bunch of sick, camouflage wearing monsters
but really,i don't care about the dogs or the deers, i just figure if one thing is looked down apon and deemed evil, we should look at everything else the same
I don't think you grasp the difference between the two; that is, suffering vs not suffering.
Posted by DAMEN VI
and a dog that grew up fighting is kinda like a kid growing up in the slums, or a military solider trained for combat,or a professional fighter..if thats what you are conditioned for, or all you know, then is it really torture??
Umm-- yes; it most certainly is.click to expand
so its cool to shoot (sometimes multiple times) & kill animals,not for survival,but mainly for the thrill of the hunt,just so long as it doesn't suffer,right? Cool beans
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I heard Taurus chicks are the HOTTEST. :)
I figured there needs to be a separate thread for Leomooners! We are a bunch, I think! There are many of us on here and
I always have fun reading and posting here on dxpnet even moreso than most of the other forums I go to. :)
Thoughts? Opinions? Perspectives? (Despise the term nice, hence replaced the term as above.)
Thoughts? Opinions? Perspectives? (Despise the term nice, hence replaced the term as above.)
I've heard the horror stories.
I've also heard that the owners are to blame, and the dogs can be rehabilitated.
And truth be told, these animals are subject to much abuse.
However--
My friend participates in a pitbull rescue-- and she's adopted two.
But last night, one of the pits (who she's had for quite some time) attacked their little lapdog, and then her husband, when he tried to stop her.
He ended up having to go to the ER.
He's going to be fine-- but they have no idea why the dog attacked.
She's a very docile animal, and terribly sweet-- no one saw this coming. 😕
Would love to hear your thoughts on this breed.
Thanks 🙂