Pesto101
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The Gateway Experience
Yeah I've experienced that. I'm bout to tell a true story. Before I got locked up when me and my ex that's locked up now was together. I remember one night we was sleeping and all of a sudden she started crying in bed with her face into pillow. Kinda got me up out my zone so I said what's wrong? And she still was crying. I was confused. So all of a sudden I saw a red mist and I saw like a white mist appear and red mist turned into satan, horns and all and the white mist was like an old white lady with gray hair just materialized in front of me and in back of me.. the devil was by my bed and the witch was next to her.. and I put my arms around her and I told them to go away.. fearing they would do something to me.. I just put my body over her anyway waiting for something to happen but then I looked back and they were gone. You might think I'm lying but I'm really not. I figured out why they materialized because if you believe in something it comes true and I believed at that time so but then I also attract what I believed in. So she cried and sensed those two things without even seeing them. Automatically I was like what. We broke up, threatened each others life. Said everything in the book to each other.. Protected each other when third parties tried to get involved. But eveytime I mention that night to her she gets quiet. She says nothing. Because I thought I was buggin. But eveytime she'll say I'm this I'm that, I'll tell her I bet you them niggas and protect you from the actual devil like I did frfr.. I bet you they ain't protect you protect you like I did literally. She always stays quiet. So it was real what I saw.. I found out later that she's a witch from a friend of mines. I didn't know at the time but not only witch but her bloodline runs deep, she has a freemason bloodline that goes back far.. she told me her grandfather was one but she never told me she was one. But we only started goin out for 4-5 months...
Her mother died and I tried making her feel better but she told me to my face, she understands I'm trying to make her feel better but now that she lost her mom that she doesn't give a fuck about no one now even more than before and I tried my hardest to bring her to the light. I found out her mother was the only one in her bloodline that wasn't a mason and didn't want her daughter goin down that path. I actually think they might have sacrificed her.. But it is what it is. smh But when I was in bed with her I got that feeling also that those two things represented her two personalities or the two familars that was inside of her and I wasn't ready to actually see it at the time but she literally was fighting demons and she still is. She got out of jail again two weeks ago and got locked up again but this time she not getting out. She got locked up three times in September alone. You're not supposed to get out that many times. They keep you in if you get caught a second time. She been locked up like 10 times not more than me but she never hit prison. I think she got ppl that be getting her out if you know what I mean.. I learned that if you a mason all you gotta do is do a certain hand signal to the judge and they'll know what it means and slip you through the cracks and get you up outta there but this girl is so in her feelings, she literally doesn't give a fuck about anything anymore.. and i wish i had the power to help her.
Her mother died and I tried making her feel better but she told me to my face, she understands I'm trying to make her feel better but now that she lost her mom that she doesn't give a fuck about no one now even more than before and I tried my hardest to bring her to the light. I found out her mother was the only one in her bloodline that wasn't a mason and didn't want her daughter goin down that path. I actually think they might have sacrificed her.. But it is what it is. smh But when I was in bed with her I got that feeling also that those two things represented her two personalities or the two familars that was inside of her and I wasn't ready to actually see it at the time but she literally was fighting demons and she still is. She got out of jail again two weeks ago and got locked up again but this time she not getting out. She got locked up three times in September alone. You're not supposed to get out that many times. They keep you in if you get caught a second time. She been locked up like 10 times not more than me but she never hit prison. I think she got ppl that be getting her out if you know what I mean.. I learned that if you a mason all you gotta do is do a certain hand signal to the judge and they'll know what it means and slip you through the cracks and get you up outta there but this girl is so in her feelings, she literally doesn't give a fuck about anything anymore.. and i wish i had the power to help her.
My apologies for the typos. But that's how you know it's real when I don't check for spell check
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
Posted by route666aybb
My apologies for the typos. But that's how you know it's real when I don't check for spell check
Crazy stuff. Possession of ones body or conjuring dark spirits & shadow people is beyond outside my scope, for sure.
I have spoken to another of very very similar accounts with the grey haired lady. In this case, without legs. The same person said her husband was once possessed in her bed and started moving in inhuman ways like double jointing and even as far as defying gravity. And they directly contact you (mostly) malevolently via controlling people. This case was in the bedroom too. I don't know her history but these shadowy figures (the old lady without legs or babies without heads) are attached to her, even if they camp 200 miles away from home.
How does resonance and vibration occur when there is no matter to resonate and vibrate?
Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?
Posted by Walk_on_by
How does resonance and vibration occur when there is no matter to resonate and vibrate?
Apparently the entire magnetic field is full of invisible matter.
Posted by Pesto101Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?click to expand
Ooh wow bless you. 🙏
How does it feel.?
Wow I never actually explained this.
This is healing for me because alot of people
Here around me, I'm just stuck right now as to
How I let this out or know. Any who.
So I actually leave my body.
I'm unconscious in a way but I'm not.
There is this huge knowing that I'm close with
God and then they come.
My mouth and body all move on their own without my effort.
And when they talk I immediately forget the words because it's not coming from me.
I'm just synced enough on their level to have similar waves of information.
Most spirits feel or have feminine energy
even if they were known to be men. It's not a
female energy but "yin" feminine in nature
like they are passive and not intrusive
(Not to say that masculine energy is).
Certain spirits like Prince (from all others surprisingly) the musician and another named Bashar. Also Thoth. Have the most masculine energy.
I have ever felt. The answers are fast and direct.
...
The water meditation is like an enhancer.
If I'm not mistaken, and I've been told that the
water is very high in frequency by nature and is the closest to the highest realms in the physical.
It enhanced my channeling
As I enter into this state.
Helps me feel relaxed to shift aside
and have more detailed information*
...
I also can feel them around me sometimes.
Their presence.
It doesn't feel spooky like youd think.
It feels like you're in the library.
It's a neutral feeling.
Posted by Pesto101Posted by route666aybb
My apologies for the typos. But that's how you know it's real when I don't check for spell check
Crazy stuff. Possession of ones body or conjuring dark spirits & shadow people is beyond outside my scope, for sure.
I have spoken to another of very very similar accounts with the grey haired lady. In this case, without legs. The same person said her husband was once possessed in her bed and started moving in inhuman ways like double jointing and even as far as defying gravity. And they directly contact you (mostly) malevolently via controlling people. This case was in the bedroom too. I don't know her history but these shadowy figures (the old lady without legs or babies without heads) are attached to her, even if they camp 200 miles away from home.click to expand
I figured out the old lady had a name.. I forgot but it's what the movie john wick was based off. I forgot the entity but it was one of those. I forgot the name tho. Bruh.. ..man you wouldn't even believe me if I told you what else I seen
Posted by route666aybbPosted by Pesto101Posted by route666aybb
My apologies for the typos. But that's how you know it's real when I don't check for spell check
Crazy stuff. Possession of ones body or conjuring dark spirits & shadow people is beyond outside my scope, for sure.
I have spoken to another of very very similar accounts with the grey haired lady. In this case, without legs. The same person said her husband was once possessed in her bed and started moving in inhuman ways like double jointing and even as far as defying gravity. And they directly contact you (mostly) malevolently via controlling people. This case was in the bedroom too. I don't know her history but these shadowy figures (the old lady without legs or babies without heads) are attached to her, even if they camp 200 miles away from home.
click to expand
I figured out the old lady had a name.. I forgot but it's what the movie john wick was based off. I forgot the entity but it was one of those. I forgot the name tho. Bruh.. ..man you wouldn't even believe me if I told you what else I seenclick to expand
The fear of Baba Yaga. Babayka.
I've heard a lot. Nothing surprises me any more. It's odd. I make an assumption that because of mason bloodlines, there must be witchcraft used via medium rather than accessing the arcane by oneself. But other cases i read about seem to attach entities of this nature using either method. When we generally view the world in a 2 tier binary way, like we've been taught, it makes it difficult to discern.
Went through a very very bad time. A personal hell. It all came to a head over 3 days. On the 3rd day I broke and let it all out until nothing was felt. Felt nothing anymore.
Thought nothing. I had forgotten myself and I was just empty.
Then it came and I was filled with something else. A Pure feeling. Then I saw everything around me, felt everything, smelled everything.It was like being born again, experiencing everything as if it was new. I just know things I shouldn't know and had no way of knowing. Feel the flow of events and people around me.
It last for weeks became to much bring confusion, doubt, and finally fear to knock me out of it.
There are no words. I miss it.
Thought nothing. I had forgotten myself and I was just empty.
Then it came and I was filled with something else. A Pure feeling. Then I saw everything around me, felt everything, smelled everything.It was like being born again, experiencing everything as if it was new. I just know things I shouldn't know and had no way of knowing. Feel the flow of events and people around me.
It last for weeks became to much bring confusion, doubt, and finally fear to knock me out of it.
There are no words. I miss it.
Posted by Pesto101Posted by route666aybbPosted by Pesto101Posted by route666aybb
My apologies for the typos. But that's how you know it's real when I don't check for spell check
Crazy stuff. Possession of ones body or conjuring dark spirits & shadow people is beyond outside my scope, for sure.
I have spoken to another of very very similar accounts with the grey haired lady. In this case, without legs. The same person said her husband was once possessed in her bed and started moving in inhuman ways like double jointing and even as far as defying gravity. And they directly contact you (mostly) malevolently via controlling people. This case was in the bedroom too. I don't know her history but these shadowy figures (the old lady without legs or babies without heads) are attached to her, even if they camp 200 miles away from home.
click to expand
I figured out the old lady had a name.. I forgot but it's what the movie john wick was based off. I forgot the entity but it was one of those. I forgot the name tho. Bruh.. ..man you wouldn't even believe me if I told you what else I seen
The fear of Baba Yaga. Babayka.
I've heard a lot. Nothing surprises me any more. It's odd. I make an assumption that because of mason bloodlines, there must be witchcraft used via medium rather than accessing the arcane by oneself. But other cases i read about seem to attach entities of this nature using either method. When we generally view the world in a 2 tier binary way, like we've been taught, it makes it difficult to discern.click to expand
Definitely difficult to discern. Yeah definitely a medium gotta be used. Most don't get strictly from the source of course.. And yea baba yaga that's what it was called thank you. What else have you heard if you feel like sharing?
I remember learning about this when I was 19 or so. It was about the time I was using I-doser and reading Samuel Sagan's books. I found out about Hemi-sync, Monroe's books and the Gateaway experience and I was planning to go to one of these Monroe Institute' workshops but I never attended because my mother found out and she thought I was getting lured in by a weird cult. It was mostly curiosity that made me partake in this, due to my first spontaneous OBE in 2004, I may have already posted about that here.
In general all my experiences have been quite positive, albeit the very first one I had could easily be perceived as an alien abduction which is a common OBE interpretation for the uninitiated I found, and so I had mixed feelings about it, in one hand I felt great carrying the elatedness of the experience but there was also this fear (and excitement) the unknown triggers within you. I was still a minor, I didn't know anything about sleep paralysis or OBEs then.
My remote viewing was tested, but my results failed. I was still new at it and worried at the possibility of it quickly leading to unethical practices, considering you are legitimately gathering real information about others without permission. That's what made me "nope" out of it, I stubbornly declared I wasn't going to do it instead of exploring at its fullness the possibility of what I may be capable.
In general all my experiences have been quite positive, albeit the very first one I had could easily be perceived as an alien abduction which is a common OBE interpretation for the uninitiated I found, and so I had mixed feelings about it, in one hand I felt great carrying the elatedness of the experience but there was also this fear (and excitement) the unknown triggers within you. I was still a minor, I didn't know anything about sleep paralysis or OBEs then.
My remote viewing was tested, but my results failed. I was still new at it and worried at the possibility of it quickly leading to unethical practices, considering you are legitimately gathering real information about others without permission. That's what made me "nope" out of it, I stubbornly declared I wasn't going to do it instead of exploring at its fullness the possibility of what I may be capable.
Posted by xxAjuxxPosted by Pesto101Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?
click to expand
Ooh wow bless you. 🙏
How does it feel.?
Wow I never actually explained this.
This is healing for me because alot of people
Here around me, I'm just stuck right now as to
How I let this out or know. Any who.
So I actually leave my body.
I'm unconscious in a way but I'm not.
There is this huge knowing that I'm close with
God and then they come.
My mouth and body all move on their own without my effort.
And when they talk I immediately forget the words because it's not coming from me.
I'm just synced enough on their level to have similar waves of information.
Most spirits feel or have feminine energy
even if they were known to be men. It's not a
female energy but "yin" feminine in nature
like they are passive and not intrusive
(Not to say that masculine energy is).
Certain spirits like Prince (from all others surprisingly) the musician and another named Bashar. Also Thoth. Have the most masculine energy.
I have ever felt. The answers are fast and direct.
...
The water meditation is like an enhancer.
If I'm not mistaken, and I've been told that the
water is very high in frequency by nature and is the closest to the highest realms in the physical.
It enhanced my channeling
As I enter into this state.
Helps me feel relaxed to shift aside
and have more detailed information*
...
I also can feel them around me sometimes.
Their presence.
It doesn't feel spooky like youd think.
It feels like you're in the library.
It's a neutral feeling.
click to expand
I have heard similar things about water but I think the simplest answer for its efficacy in meditative practices can be found in the sensory deprivation element. Float tanks became a trend in the wellness community as they are found relaxing for the same reason.
Posted by Pesto101Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?click to expand
I didn't read the whole thread. Just saw this. I did the hemi-sync the first time literally when they released that the cia used this on people for mk ultra and I saw a reptilian stare me dead in my shit and I thought the muthafucka was gonna swallow my whole body so I opened my eyes.. I feel like if I ain't open my eyes I would've never came back in my body and would've died from shock.. I know it sound crazy but after i did it, then i read that they said people who do it should be warned that they might see beings from the other side that are not good so..
Posted by xxAjuxxPosted by Pesto101Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?
click to expand
Ooh wow bless you. 🙏
How does it feel.?
Wow I never actually explained this.
This is healing for me because alot of people
Here around me, I'm just stuck right now as to
How I let this out or know. Any who.
So I actually leave my body.
I'm unconscious in a way but I'm not.
There is this huge knowing that I'm close with
God and then they come.
My mouth and body all move on their own without my effort.
And when they talk I immediately forget the words because it's not coming from me.
I'm just synced enough on their level to have similar waves of information.
Most spirits feel or have feminine energy
even if they were known to be men. It's not a
female energy but "yin" feminine in nature
like they are passive and not intrusive
(Not to say that masculine energy is).
Certain spirits like Prince (from all others surprisingly) the musician and another named Bashar. Also Thoth. Have the most masculine energy.
I have ever felt. The answers are fast and direct.
...
The water meditation is like an enhancer.
If I'm not mistaken, and I've been told that the
water is very high in frequency by nature and is the closest to the highest realms in the physical.
It enhanced my channeling
As I enter into this state.
Helps me feel relaxed to shift aside
and have more detailed information*
...
I also can feel them around me sometimes.
Their presence.
It doesn't feel spooky like youd think.
It feels like you're in the library.
It's a neutral feeling.
click to expand
akashic records vibes
Posted by IceStorm
Yeah, no… this doesn’t even sound fun so I have no interest in trying. Lol
What's more fun is seeing you wit something big inside.. lemme stop...
Posted by Lostthoughts
Went through a very very bad time. A personal hell. It all came to a head over 3 days. On the 3rd day I broke and let it all out until nothing was felt. Felt nothing anymore.
Thought nothing. I had forgotten myself and I was just empty.
Then it came and I was filled with something else. A Pure feeling. Then I saw everything around me, felt everything, smelled everything.It was like being born again, experiencing everything as if it was new. I just know things I shouldn't know and had no way of knowing. Feel the flow of events and people around me.
It last for weeks became to much bring confusion, doubt, and finally fear to knock me out of it.
There are no words. I miss it.
This is precisely it. Most other accounts i've read up on without using Monroe gear all have the same thing in common. They fell into it by complete accident, by forgetting themselves, removing all conflict and then within seconds, the nanolathing of pure energy flowing thru and around you takes over. I also believe it hits us all no matter what our life situation is (bar drug abuse) we can all access the central hub.
The confusion and shock disturb all of us. They (again non Monroe participants) say it gets a lot easier to tap in and becomes increasingly difficult to tap back out. Not to mention how much more advanced each experience became. Fear took over most, especially those who contacted other spirits.
Posted by route666aybbPosted by Pesto101Posted by route666aybbPosted by Pesto101I figured out the old lady had a name.. I forgot but it's what the movie john wick was based off. I forgot the entity but it was one of those. I forgot the name tho. Bruh.. ..man you wouldn't even believe me if I told you what else I seenPosted by route666aybb
My apologies for the typos. But that's how you know it's real when I don't check for spell check
Crazy stuff. Possession of ones body or conjuring dark spirits & shadow people is beyond outside my scope, for sure.
I have spoken to another of very very similar accounts with the grey haired lady. In this case, without legs. The same person said her husband was once possessed in her bed and started moving in inhuman ways like double jointing and even as far as defying gravity. And they directly contact you (mostly) malevolently via controlling people. This case was in the bedroom too. I don't know her history but these shadowy figures (the old lady without legs or babies without heads) are attached to her, even if they camp 200 miles away from home.
click to expand
The fear of Baba Yaga. Babayka.
I've heard a lot. Nothing surprises me any more. It's odd. I make an assumption that because of mason bloodlines, there must be witchcraft used via medium rather than accessing the arcane by oneself. But other cases i read about seem to attach entities of this nature using either method. When we generally view the world in a 2 tier binary way, like we've been taught, it makes it difficult to discern.
click to expand
Definitely difficult to discern. Yeah definitely a medium gotta be used. Most don't get strictly from the source of course.. And yea baba yaga that's what it was called thank you. What else have you heard if you feel like sharing?click to expand
The way they tap in is random. The 3rd eye thing kicks in. Like an hibiscus, it pollinates by itself, connecting to the next phase without the bee.
Others who ask for contact will likely encounter other spirits/entities. If you are only looking to improve your own experience, strictly to interact with the environment for learning purposes, you can omit others from interfering. Our spirit is so powerful, imo, that if you say 'no' to them, and don't let them in, they won't bother you. This is where theology gets in the way for me.
My belief is if you're foolish enough to meet something on a crossroad, you're going to find things there you wish you hadn't.
I live with that every day. I wake up surprised I didn't die, then laugh it off and say "Hope I don't die today. Wouldn't that be tragic?" Yet I don't l don't truly care, and why should I? Dying isn't truly my problem. People living around me will have to deal with it right? So why even care? Unless you are afraid of death. I guess then I can understand why someone would feel so fragile. I'm not that person though. Throw me in a ditch, burn me into ash. All I ask is you don't take up precious land to preserve my name. Leave the nonsense of my existence on the internet. Let the online personality profiles be my graveyard. At least then I'm not wasting actual space, or natural land.
Posted by xxAjuxxPosted by Pesto101Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?
click to expand
Ooh wow bless you. 🙏
How does it feel.?
Wow I never actually explained this.
This is healing for me because alot of people
Here around me, I'm just stuck right now as to
How I let this out or know. Any who.
So I actually leave my body.
I'm unconscious in a way but I'm not.
There is this huge knowing that I'm close with
God and then they come.
My mouth and body all move on their own without my effort.
And when they talk I immediately forget the words because it's not coming from me.
I'm just synced enough on their level to have similar waves of information.
Most spirits feel or have feminine energy
even if they were known to be men. It's not a
female energy but "yin" feminine in nature
like they are passive and not intrusive
(Not to say that masculine energy is).
Certain spirits like Prince (from all others surprisingly) the musician and another named Bashar. Also Thoth. Have the most masculine energy.
I have ever felt. The answers are fast and direct.
...
The water meditation is like an enhancer.
If I'm not mistaken, and I've been told that the
water is very high in frequency by nature and is the closest to the highest realms in the physical.
It enhanced my channeling
As I enter into this state.
Helps me feel relaxed to shift aside
and have more detailed information*
...
I also can feel them around me sometimes.
Their presence.
It doesn't feel spooky like youd think.
It feels like you're in the library.
It's a neutral feeling.
click to expand
Your experiences hit a far higher level than those i've read. Incredible.
If youre tapping into healing energy, there are differing Focus modes that try to define it. I think they are called Focus 12, 15 and 21. 12 is like the riding of the gate but not going thru, 15 is where healing modes operate and 21 is full blown nonsense lol. I have had one Focus 21 experience, but yet to explain here, but it obviously involves water. 🙂
As a guess your connection to God has allowed you to know that youre not in company or are protected from malevolent entities. The lack of fear because you know they cannot harm you. But then you mention Thoth and accessing the database of the ancients.
I 100% relate to the mouth movement and speech and having no control nor memory of it. It's so weird. Other texts i've looked at with communication vary. Most also forget the dialogue but recall as clear as day what they did and felt.
To access the higher frequencies of water, did you use an incubating method prior, or am i asking the wrong question?
Posted by june_r
I remember learning about this when I was 19 or so. It was about the time I was using I-doser and reading Samuel Sagan's books. I found out about Hemi-sync, Monroe's books and the Gateaway experience and I was planning to go to one of these Monroe Institute' workshops but I never attended because my mother found out and she thought I was getting lured in by a weird cult. It was mostly curiosity that made me partake in this, due to my first spontaneous OBE in 2004, I may have already posted about that here.
In general all my experiences have been quite positive, albeit the very first one I had could easily be perceived as an alien abduction which is a common OBE interpretation for the uninitiated I found, and so I had mixed feelings about it, in one hand I felt great carrying the elatedness of the experience but there was also this fear (and excitement) the unknown triggers within you. I was still a minor, I didn't know anything about sleep paralysis or OBEs then.
My remote viewing was tested, but my results failed. I was still new at it and worried at the possibility of it quickly leading to unethical practices, considering you are legitimately gathering real information about others without permission. That's what made me "nope" out of it, I stubbornly declared I wasn't going to do it instead of exploring at its fullness the possibility of what I may be capable.
I've grabbed a couple of binaural beats apps to use later tonight. This could be fun!
Accidental obe's are always interesting reads. And always annoying because 1. You have no idea what happened and 2. Most people write you off as crazy trying to mansplain it and as a result, you get scared and don't want any further part in it. Am glad you looked into it at least. Knowing is awesome.
When asking for information outside of yourself with remote viewing, did you feel an energy trying to stop you from doing so, or did you trance out and decide what you were doing was wrong?
The paralysis side of it became less and less of an issue for me over time.
Rather than have OBE's, i became more at one with my environment, was always completely conscious. I didn't leave my body. I could move around and speak, could feel the air going in and out of me like i was limiting my capacity trying to remain mentally grounded.
When I'd tap in, my requests were simple. All i wanted were ~3 things. 1 of them is a passive aura driven by the other actives. The choices were 'to do something comforting' with no underlying specific details more than say a cup of tea. And the other was what can i 'do' & learn about myself here? It was a pure, innocent exp for me.
Requesting outside influences was something i refused to partake in. I was brought up in a conservative (religious) environment and have been taught not to communicate with other spirits because of the unknown motives of said spirits. The ones i know of live in a loop and i genuinely fear them. Where others like Aju here communicate with deities. I think it takes a special person to find such power.
Tmi lol.
Posted by AcutelyUnaware
I had a pretty bad experience after reading the real Satanic Bible. Not levay, the military dude with the eyebrows. Michael Aquino I think.
Got 19 pages in and blacked out, hallucinations about demons, shadow people and ghosts for days then I was fine afterwards.
Never doing that shit again. Scary part is I remember blacking out on page 19 but one if the images I remember seeing was on page 42.
Don't fuck with the occult.
Damn bro. That is brutal.
I refuse to read any of that stuff. But i know what they are at the most basic level but that it where it stays. Shadow people, hat men (like Kung Lao's hat) and other entities imo are all demonic. And because they want your soul, you could literally die of shock. Or become possessed. Fuck that.
Posted by june_rPosted by xxAjuxxPosted by Pesto101Ooh wow bless you. 🙏Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?
click to expand
How does it feel.?
Wow I never actually explained this.
This is healing for me because alot of people
Here around me, I'm just stuck right now as to
How I let this out or know. Any who.
So I actually leave my body.
I'm unconscious in a way but I'm not.
There is this huge knowing that I'm close with
God and then they come.
My mouth and body all move on their own without my effort.
And when they talk I immediately forget the words because it's not coming from me.
I'm just synced enough on their level to have similar waves of information.
Most spirits feel or have feminine energy
even if they were known to be men. It's not a
female energy but "yin" feminine in nature
like they are passive and not intrusive
(Not to say that masculine energy is).
Certain spirits like Prince (from all others surprisingly) the musician and another named Bashar. Also Thoth. Have the most masculine energy.
I have ever felt. The answers are fast and direct.
...
The water meditation is like an enhancer.
If I'm not mistaken, and I've been told that the
water is very high in frequency by nature and is the closest to the highest realms in the physical.
It enhanced my channeling
As I enter into this state.
Helps me feel relaxed to shift aside
and have more detailed information*
...
I also can feel them around me sometimes.
Their presence.
It doesn't feel spooky like youd think.
It feels like you're in the library.
It's a neutral feeling.
click to expand
I have heard similar things about water but I think the simplest answer for its efficacy in meditative practices can be found in the sensory deprivation element. Float tanks became a trend in the wellness community as they are found relaxing for the same reason.
click to expand
Gotta try one of these.
Have you or anyone heard or read of someone (trained) who went to a body of water, like a pool or lake to tap in while literally holding their breath?
'Is that air you're breathing now?' 😏
Posted by IceStorm
Yeah, no… this doesn’t even sound fun so I have no interest in trying. Lol
If you somehow find it, you'll never regret it for a second. The term 'meaning' falls to bits. The term god or supreme consciousness or whatever will also be torn to bits.
Posted by Pesto101Posted by xxAjuxxPosted by Pesto101Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?
click to expand
Ooh wow bless you. 🙏
How does it feel.?
Wow I never actually explained this.
This is healing for me because alot of people
Here around me, I'm just stuck right now as to
How I let this out or know. Any who.
So I actually leave my body.
I'm unconscious in a way but I'm not.
There is this huge knowing that I'm close with
God and then they come.
My mouth and body all move on their own without my effort.
And when they talk I immediately forget the words because it's not coming from me.
I'm just synced enough on their level to have similar waves of information.
Most spirits feel or have feminine energy
even if they were known to be men. It's not a
female energy but "yin" feminine in nature
like they are passive and not intrusive
(Not to say that masculine energy is).
Certain spirits like Prince (from all others surprisingly) the musician and another named Bashar. Also Thoth. Have the most masculine energy.
I have ever felt. The answers are fast and direct.
...
The water meditation is like an enhancer.
If I'm not mistaken, and I've been told that the
water is very high in frequency by nature and is the closest to the highest realms in the physical.
It enhanced my channeling
As I enter into this state.
Helps me feel relaxed to shift aside
and have more detailed information*
...
I also can feel them around me sometimes.
Their presence.
It doesn't feel spooky like youd think.
It feels like you're in the library.
It's a neutral feeling.
Your experiences hit a far higher level than those i've read. Incredible.
If youre tapping into healing energy, there are differing Focus modes that try to define it. I think they are called Focus 12, 15 and 21. 12 is like the riding of the gate but not going thru, 15 is where healing modes operate and 21 is full blown nonsense lol. I have had one Focus 21 experience, but yet to explain here, but it obviously involves water. 🙂
As a guess your connection to God has allowed you to know that youre not in company or are protected from malevolent entities. The lack of fear because you know they cannot harm you. But then you mention Thoth and accessing the database of the ancients.
I 100% relate to the mouth movement and speech and having no control nor memory of it. It's so weird. Other texts i've looked at with communication vary. Most also forget the dialogue but recall as clear as day what they did and felt.
To access the higher frequencies of water, did you use an incubating method prior, or am i asking the wrong question?click to expand
Yes. Exactlly. ThaTs the only reason why Ifeel comfortable enough to go into the trance . Because I'm close to God and my mother. I feel protected.
Also, when they speak, the information is gone usually from me because it's not coming from me. They can write for me. Record things for me though.it
It also can depend on the level of how deep I am and how much I can handle.
The more deep the more of who they are I experience.
No I only sat in the bath in my meditation state.
And I didn't know that about the Focus group!
Edit: Do they describe the strength level?
Strength level of focus needed to achieve certain gateway experiences?
Posted by Pesto101Posted by Lostthoughts
Went through a very very bad time. A personal hell. It all came to a head over 3 days. On the 3rd day I broke and let it all out until nothing was felt. Felt nothing anymore.
Thought nothing. I had forgotten myself and I was just empty.
Then it came and I was filled with something else. A Pure feeling. Then I saw everything around me, felt everything, smelled everything.It was like being born again, experiencing everything as if it was new. I just know things I shouldn't know and had no way of knowing. Feel the flow of events and people around me.
It last for weeks became to much bring confusion, doubt, and finally fear to knock me out of it.
There are no words. I miss it.
This is precisely it. Most other accounts i've read up on without using Monroe gear all have the same thing in common. They fell into it by complete accident, by forgetting themselves, removing all conflict and then within seconds, the nanolathing of pure energy flowing thru and around you takes over. I also believe it hits us all no matter what our life situation is (bar drug abuse) we can all access the central hub.
The confusion and shock disturb all of us. They (again non Monroe participants) say it gets a lot easier to tap in and becomes increasingly difficult to tap back out. Not to mention how much more advanced each experience became. Fear took over most, especially those who contacted other spirits.click to expand
There is nothing in the western world explaining, let alone preparing someone, for this. It's intense and overwhelming. After researching it, I learned what it was and why. It was a crazy reading about people who experienced the same thing. Those bizarre realizations and thoughts. Then there is the crap you can do that might as well be considered magic(it's not).
It was also incredibly sad reading and figuring out those who failed to handle it at all completely lost their minds.
The successful versions are low key everywhere. They still glow a little and you can feel it.
What infuriates me is, I found so much from different religions describing it in different words and under different names. At some point the information and knowledge passed down was corrupted.
As for your spirits
I can tell you in hindsight, spirits and other people aren't a issue if you address what they latch on to and are aware of what's going on. What is you, where those thoughts and feelings came from and what is not.
Posted by xxAjuxxPosted by Pesto101Posted by xxAjuxxPosted by Pesto101Ooh wow bless you. 🙏Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?
click to expand
How does it feel.?
Wow I never actually explained this.
This is healing for me because alot of people
Here around me, I'm just stuck right now as to
How I let this out or know. Any who.
So I actually leave my body.
I'm unconscious in a way but I'm not.
There is this huge knowing that I'm close with
God and then they come.
My mouth and body all move on their own without my effort.
And when they talk I immediately forget the words because it's not coming from me.
I'm just synced enough on their level to have similar waves of information.
Most spirits feel or have feminine energy
even if they were known to be men. It's not a
female energy but "yin" feminine in nature
like they are passive and not intrusive
(Not to say that masculine energy is).
Certain spirits like Prince (from all others surprisingly) the musician and another named Bashar. Also Thoth. Have the most masculine energy.
I have ever felt. The answers are fast and direct.
...
The water meditation is like an enhancer.
If I'm not mistaken, and I've been told that the
water is very high in frequency by nature and is the closest to the highest realms in the physical.
It enhanced my channeling
As I enter into this state.
Helps me feel relaxed to shift aside
and have more detailed information*
...
I also can feel them around me sometimes.
Their presence.
It doesn't feel spooky like youd think.
It feels like you're in the library.
It's a neutral feeling.
Your experiences hit a far higher level than those i've read. Incredible.
If youre tapping into healing energy, there are differing Focus modes that try to define it. I think they are called Focus 12, 15 and 21. 12 is like the riding of the gate but not going thru, 15 is where healing modes operate and 21 is full blown nonsense lol. I have had one Focus 21 experience, but yet to explain here, but it obviously involves water.
As a guess your connection to God has allowed you to know that youre not in company or are protected from malevolent entities. The lack of fear because you know they cannot harm you. But then you mention Thoth and accessing the database of the ancients.
I 100% relate to the mouth movement and speech and having no control nor memory of it. It's so weird. Other texts i've looked at with communication vary. Most also forget the dialogue but recall as clear as day what they did and felt.
To access the higher frequencies of water, did you use an incubating method prior, or am i asking the wrong question?
click to expand
Yes. Exactlly. ThaTs the only reason why Ifeel comfortable enough to go into the trance . Because I'm close to God and my mother. I feel protected.
Also, when they speak, the information is gone usually from me because it's not coming from me. They can write for me. Record things for me though.it
It also can depend on the level of how deep I am and how much I can handle.
The more deep the more of who they are I experience.
No I only sat in the bath in my meditation state.
And I didn't know that about the Focus group!
Edit: Do they describe the strength level?
Strength level of focus needed to achieve certain gateway experiences?
click to expand
A genuine soul looking for true enlightenment. Like most people who've seen entities that can harm them, you've learned from them. It's like they are open ended and are programmed to create some sort of illusion of fear but each person (& i believe it's everyone) who meets them, has to complete a trial of sorts. Otherwise they cannot ascend.
This is possibly where impure thoughts could trap people into going insane or worse. And likely why most of us don't go back.
I do get how the information passed thru you doesn't feel like it's coming from you. Like a central hub is taking over and speaking to and from you at once.
Ok. So basically touching water in a tub. I assume it is similar to incubation? I've never done it before.
Focus levels. It's in the advanced techniques section around the 32 minute mark. I did some of the numbers wrong. I believe the levels are achieved either at random or with more and more experiences. Not sure. Still a newbie with the science.
Posted by Pesto101Posted by june_r
I remember learning about this when I was 19 or so. It was about the time I was using I-doser and reading Samuel Sagan's books. I found out about Hemi-sync, Monroe's books and the Gateaway experience and I was planning to go to one of these Monroe Institute' workshops but I never attended because my mother found out and she thought I was getting lured in by a weird cult. It was mostly curiosity that made me partake in this, due to my first spontaneous OBE in 2004, I may have already posted about that here.
In general all my experiences have been quite positive, albeit the very first one I had could easily be perceived as an alien abduction which is a common OBE interpretation for the uninitiated I found, and so I had mixed feelings about it, in one hand I felt great carrying the elatedness of the experience but there was also this fear (and excitement) the unknown triggers within you. I was still a minor, I didn't know anything about sleep paralysis or OBEs then.
My remote viewing was tested, but my results failed. I was still new at it and worried at the possibility of it quickly leading to unethical practices, considering you are legitimately gathering real information about others without permission. That's what made me "nope" out of it, I stubbornly declared I wasn't going to do it instead of exploring at its fullness the possibility of what I may be capable.
I've grabbed a couple of binaural beats apps to use later tonight. This could be fun!
Accidental obe's are always interesting reads. And always annoying because 1. You have no idea what happened and 2. Most people write you off as crazy trying to mansplain it and as a result, you get scared and don't want any further part in it. Am glad you looked into it at least. Knowing is awesome.
When asking for information outside of yourself with remote viewing, did you feel an energy trying to stop you from doing so, or did you trance out and decide what you were doing was wrong?
The paralysis side of it became less and less of an issue for me over time.
Rather than have OBE's, i became more at one with my environment, was always completely conscious. I didn't leave my body. I could move around and speak, could feel the air going in and out of me like i was limiting my capacity trying to remain mentally grounded.
When I'd tap in, my requests were simple. All i wanted were ~3 things. 1 of them is a passive aura driven by the other actives. The choices were 'to do something comforting' with no underlying specific details more than say a cup of tea. And the other was what can i 'do' & learn about myself here? It was a pure, innocent exp for me.
Requesting outside influences was something i refused to partake in. I was brought up in a conservative (religious) environment and have been taught not to communicate with other spirits because of the unknown motives of said spirits. The ones i know of live in a loop and i genuinely fear them. Where others like Aju here communicate with deities. I think it takes a special person to find such power.
Tmi lol.click to expand
The virgin OBE experience may as well be the "purest" one, the lack of information would make you hypothetically unbiased.
I don't remember sharing it with anyone in my environment then. I'm a healthy skeptic, not the sort for blindly believing something but still very open to understand, so if anyone ever wants to question my sanity about something, is highly likely I had already beat them at it. This defines my life really, I had paranormal experiences as far back as I can remember (4-5 yo) and initially I spoke to adults about them partly hoping this was everyone's normal (as they were starting to freak me out), questioning thing and requiring answers almost obsessively and so I believe this is very much part of my own nature, but then adults dimissing the world I perceived as childlike imagination probably shaped it even more (and also pushed me to keep my mouth shut). So my character probably doesn't fit the mystic/esoteric/psychic stereotype, I mean as far as I'm aware there is a lot of charlatans in this area (and if we were to apply astrology here, Neptune is said to be very much related to deception), so while is fascinating to explore the work of Edgar Cayce with an open mind, at the same time I'm also glad people like James Randi exist.
I'm a strong deliberate thinker and I always try to consider the ethical ramifications behind an action so is not strange for me to come to such a decision on my own.
For these sort of practices it is always suggested to develop a strong sense of identity, to combat all these bad energies. But I can relate, I'm not for readily trusting anything or anyone (duh) so for all I care spirits are tricky and deceitful, most likely as a product of their own boredom. I seriously don't think deities would be any different.. or maybe I have read too much mythology.
Posted by june_rPosted by Pesto101Posted by june_rI've grabbed a couple of binaural beats apps to use later tonight. This could be fun!
I remember learning about this when I was 19 or so. It was about the time I was using I-doser and reading Samuel Sagan's books. I found out about Hemi-sync, Monroe's books and the Gateaway experience and I was planning to go to one of these Monroe Institute' workshops but I never attended because my mother found out and she thought I was getting lured in by a weird cult. It was mostly curiosity that made me partake in this, due to my first spontaneous OBE in 2004, I may have already posted about that here.
In general all my experiences have been quite positive, albeit the very first one I had could easily be perceived as an alien abduction which is a common OBE interpretation for the uninitiated I found, and so I had mixed feelings about it, in one hand I felt great carrying the elatedness of the experience but there was also this fear (and excitement) the unknown triggers within you. I was still a minor, I didn't know anything about sleep paralysis or OBEs then.
My remote viewing was tested, but my results failed. I was still new at it and worried at the possibility of it quickly leading to unethical practices, considering you are legitimately gathering real information about others without permission. That's what made me "nope" out of it, I stubbornly declared I wasn't going to do it instead of exploring at its fullness the possibility of what I may be capable.
Accidental obe's are always interesting reads. And always annoying because 1. You have no idea what happened and 2. Most people write you off as crazy trying to mansplain it and as a result, you get scared and don't want any further part in it. Am glad you looked into it at least. Knowing is awesome.
When asking for information outside of yourself with remote viewing, did you feel an energy trying to stop you from doing so, or did you trance out and decide what you were doing was wrong?
The paralysis side of it became less and less of an issue for me over time.
Rather than have OBE's, i became more at one with my environment, was always completely conscious. I didn't leave my body. I could move around and speak, could feel the air going in and out of me like i was limiting my capacity trying to remain mentally grounded.
When I'd tap in, my requests were simple. All i wanted were ~3 things. 1 of them is a passive aura driven by the other actives. The choices were 'to do something comforting' with no underlying specific details more than say a cup of tea. And the other was what can i 'do' & learn about myself here? It was a pure, innocent exp for me.
Requesting outside influences was something i refused to partake in. I was brought up in a conservative (religious) environment and have been taught not to communicate with other spirits because of the unknown motives of said spirits. The ones i know of live in a loop and i genuinely fear them. Where others like Aju here communicate with deities. I think it takes a special person to find such power.
Tmi lol.
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The virgin OBE experience may as well be the "purest" one, the lack of information would make you hypothetically unbiased.
I don't remember sharing it with anyone in my environment then. I'm a healthy skeptic, not the sort for blindly believing something but still very open to understand, so if anyone ever wants to question my sanity about something, is highly likely I had already beat them at it. This defines my life really, I had paranormal experiences as far back as I can remember (4-5 yo) and initially I spoke to adults about them partly hoping this was everyone's normal (as they were starting to freak me out), questioning thing and requiring answers almost obsessively and so I believe this is very much part of my own nature, but then adults dimissing the world I perceived as childlike imagination probably shaped it even more (and also pushed me to keep my mouth shut). So my character probably doesn't fit the mystic/esoteric/psychic stereotype, I mean as far as I'm aware there is a lot of charlatans in this area (and if we were to apply astrology here, Neptune is said to be very much related to deception), so while is fascinating to explore the work of Edgar Cayce with an open mind, at the same time I'm also glad people like James Randi exist.
I'm a strong deliberate thinker and I always try to consider the ethical ramifications behind an action so is not strange for me to come to such a decision on my own.
For these sort of practices it is always suggested to develop a strong sense of identity, to combat all these bad energies. But I can relate, I'm not for readily trusting anything or anyone (duh) so for all I care spirits are tricky and deceitful, most likely as a product of their own boredom. I seriously don't think deities would be any different.. or maybe I have read too much mythology.click to expand
Same l, for quite a while i kept a firm lid on it. It was obvious that no one in the local vicinity would take this on board. The people (mob) have been trained to follow a doctrine. Not one mention of higher consciousness, or if it were, would be written off as weird or mentally challenged.
The other problem is most of us who accidentally find zen for the first time, we don't go all out. We are human. We fear the unknown and mechanically try to understand what is going on. Keeping as grounded thoughts as possible. Thinking like anyone who hasnt been there, doubting ourselves. It's normal behaviour.
Cayce was around the same time as Tesla, who was an obvious candidate for this. I wonder if they have any discussions one on one out there.
The way you mention spirits, being bored, tricky and deceitful. It could be broken code, or they are trying to communicate to escape or attach to you to give them something. Again, beyond my scope. I'll continue to branch out and read up.
I also want to mention the majority of signs i have learned this from are libra and gemini. Its quite overwhelming. I'd have expected water signs to be #1 here. 🤔
Posted by Pesto101Posted by june_rPosted by xxAjuxxI have heard similar things about water but I think the simplest answer for its efficacy in meditative practices can be found in the sensory deprivation element. Float tanks became a trend in the wellness community as they are found relaxing for the same reason.Posted by Pesto101Ooh wow bless you. 🙏Posted by xxAjuxx
Wow. I'm excited for this. Holy moly, holypesto101
I honestly think I have experienced this.
It was last year.
I meditated in a way that was highly focused.
In time it literally felt like I was spinning inside my body. I remember hearing a loud rumble too and it got louder as it progressed.
It stopped and my vibration adjusted accordingly because of anxiety I started to have. I'm sure this probably has to do with my ego being in fear of "death". It was unreal.
I started trance channeling and certain spirits who come into me feel different.
I remember I channelled a particular consciousness and as soon as I felt him, i felt long period of dejavu.
It felt like I was in this safe space outside of time.
I think I was experiencing some high level frequency there too.
I was also doing this meditation in water too.
This is it! You channel the waves around you somehow. On a few websites they call it hemi sync, where the unsynced left and right brain are hypnotized by sound to then come together and trance out.
I don't believe its fear of death or anxiety but more fear of the unknown. Because you're awake to it and you know you can manipulate things in ways that make no sense at all. But most people fear contacting others. Or seeing themselves in a projection. Or something else entirely.
How did it feel to be in an environment with other spiritual entities flowing thru you?? Most of the stories i've read people go 'nope screw this' and tap out back into the matrix.
Safe spaces out of time. I believe that. Sort of like inception where you may dip into different layers of consciousness that affect time.
But tell me more about water. This is something i stumbled across in a deep reply section in youtube where someone vaguely discussed it and space in the same sentence. There's more to this.
How does water meditation work?
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How does it feel.?
Wow I never actually explained this.
This is healing for me because alot of people
Here around me, I'm just stuck right now as to
How I let this out or know. Any who.
So I actually leave my body.
I'm unconscious in a way but I'm not.
There is this huge knowing that I'm close with
God and then they come.
My mouth and body all move on their own without my effort.
And when they talk I immediately forget the words because it's not coming from me.
I'm just synced enough on their level to have similar waves of information.
Most spirits feel or have feminine energy
even if they were known to be men. It's not a
female energy but "yin" feminine in nature
like they are passive and not intrusive
(Not to say that masculine energy is).
Certain spirits like Prince (from all others surprisingly) the musician and another named Bashar. Also Thoth. Have the most masculine energy.
I have ever felt. The answers are fast and direct.
...
The water meditation is like an enhancer.
If I'm not mistaken, and I've been told that the
water is very high in frequency by nature and is the closest to the highest realms in the physical.
It enhanced my channeling
As I enter into this state.
Helps me feel relaxed to shift aside
and have more detailed information*
...
I also can feel them around me sometimes.
Their presence.
It doesn't feel spooky like youd think.
It feels like you're in the library.
It's a neutral feeling.
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Gotta try one of these.
Have you or anyone heard or read of someone (trained) who went to a body of water, like a pool or lake to tap in while literally holding their breath?
'Is that air you're breathing now?' 😏click to expand
Just noticed this..
Nothing comes to my mind right now but is likely, there is a lot of absurd stuff you can read about meditation practitioners, about some not eating or drinking for days, weeks, months.. not sleeping, meditating under severe weather conditions, etc. It can get silly. There is certainly some truth to these claims though, an advanced practitioner or just a very spiritual person would allegedly need less food, less sleep time, have no need for sex and such, because the disconnection with their body (and connection with their spirit) will mean less bodily desires. Remember the thai cave accident? the teacher in charge of the group was previously a monk and he taught the children to meditate while in the cave so they would conserve energy and survive with the little they had.
Lots of spiritual practices involve self-mortification, some people fast, abstain from sex, some people expose themselves to physical pain (ex. lying on a bed of nails).
Posted by Pesto101Posted by june_rPosted by Pesto101The virgin OBE experience may as well be the "purest" one, the lack of information would make you hypothetically unbiased.Posted by june_rI've grabbed a couple of binaural beats apps to use later tonight. This could be fun!
I remember learning about this when I was 19 or so. It was about the time I was using I-doser and reading Samuel Sagan's books. I found out about Hemi-sync, Monroe's books and the Gateaway experience and I was planning to go to one of these Monroe Institute' workshops but I never attended because my mother found out and she thought I was getting lured in by a weird cult. It was mostly curiosity that made me partake in this, due to my first spontaneous OBE in 2004, I may have already posted about that here.
In general all my experiences have been quite positive, albeit the very first one I had could easily be perceived as an alien abduction which is a common OBE interpretation for the uninitiated I found, and so I had mixed feelings about it, in one hand I felt great carrying the elatedness of the experience but there was also this fear (and excitement) the unknown triggers within you. I was still a minor, I didn't know anything about sleep paralysis or OBEs then.
My remote viewing was tested, but my results failed. I was still new at it and worried at the possibility of it quickly leading to unethical practices, considering you are legitimately gathering real information about others without permission. That's what made me "nope" out of it, I stubbornly declared I wasn't going to do it instead of exploring at its fullness the possibility of what I may be capable.
Accidental obe's are always interesting reads. And always annoying because 1. You have no idea what happened and 2. Most people write you off as crazy trying to mansplain it and as a result, you get scared and don't want any further part in it. Am glad you looked into it at least. Knowing is awesome.
When asking for information outside of yourself with remote viewing, did you feel an energy trying to stop you from doing so, or did you trance out and decide what you were doing was wrong?
The paralysis side of it became less and less of an issue for me over time.
Rather than have OBE's, i became more at one with my environment, was always completely conscious. I didn't leave my body. I could move around and speak, could feel the air going in and out of me like i was limiting my capacity trying to remain mentally grounded.
When I'd tap in, my requests were simple. All i wanted were ~3 things. 1 of them is a passive aura driven by the other actives. The choices were 'to do something comforting' with no underlying specific details more than say a cup of tea. And the other was what can i 'do' & learn about myself here? It was a pure, innocent exp for me.
Requesting outside influences was something i refused to partake in. I was brought up in a conservative (religious) environment and have been taught not to communicate with other spirits because of the unknown motives of said spirits. The ones i know of live in a loop and i genuinely fear them. Where others like Aju here communicate with deities. I think it takes a special person to find such power.
Tmi lol.
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I don't remember sharing it with anyone in my environment then. I'm a healthy skeptic, not the sort for blindly believing something but still very open to understand, so if anyone ever wants to question my sanity about something, is highly likely I had already beat them at it. This defines my life really, I had paranormal experiences as far back as I can remember (4-5 yo) and initially I spoke to adults about them partly hoping this was everyone's normal (as they were starting to freak me out), questioning thing and requiring answers almost obsessively and so I believe this is very much part of my own nature, but then adults dimissing the world I perceived as childlike imagination probably shaped it even more (and also pushed me to keep my mouth shut). So my character probably doesn't fit the mystic/esoteric/psychic stereotype, I mean as far as I'm aware there is a lot of charlatans in this area (and if we were to apply astrology here, Neptune is said to be very much related to deception), so while is fascinating to explore the work of Edgar Cayce with an open mind, at the same time I'm also glad people like James Randi exist.
I'm a strong deliberate thinker and I always try to consider the ethical ramifications behind an action so is not strange for me to come to such a decision on my own.
For these sort of practices it is always suggested to develop a strong sense of identity, to combat all these bad energies. But I can relate, I'm not for readily trusting anything or anyone (duh) so for all I care spirits are tricky and deceitful, most likely as a product of their own boredom. I seriously don't think deities would be any different.. or maybe I have read too much mythology.
click to expand
Same l, for quite a while i kept a firm lid on it. It was obvious that no one in the local vicinity would take this on board. The people (mob) have been trained to follow a doctrine. Not one mention of higher consciousness, or if it were, would be written off as weird or mentally challenged.
The other problem is most of us who accidentally find zen for the first time, we don't go all out. We are human. We fear the unknown and mechanically try to understand what is going on. Keeping as grounded thoughts as possible. Thinking like anyone who hasnt been there, doubting ourselves. It's normal behaviour.
Cayce was around the same time as Tesla, who was an obvious candidate for this. I wonder if they have any discussions one on one out there.
The way you mention spirits, being bored, tricky and deceitful. It could be broken code, or they are trying to communicate to escape or attach to you to give them something. Again, beyond my scope. I'll continue to branch out and read up.click to expand
But why go all out? what's the goal? what do you expect to find at the end of it, if there is an end? it is necessary to engage in spiritual practices for anyone to self-reflect?
I searched..
"While there are suggestions that both Thomas Edison and his former associate, Nikola Tesla, consulted Cayce separately; there is no documentation in the A.R.E. archives."
https://www.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/synchronicity-in-motion/
"The Association for Research and Enlightenment (ARE) is an organization established with the mandate of preserving and sharing the legacy of Edgar Cayce's psychic readings, and has, of course, been seized upon by fascist government forces as a means of limiting the dissemination of advanced concepts and information earmarked by the CIA for suppression. In the official ARE archive of Edgar Cayce's readings, the identities of Cayce's patients have been replaced with a complex, counter-intuitive numerical ID system designed to hide particularly sensitive content under the guise of protecting public privacy. Cursory browsing of the volumes of Cayce material suggests that Nikola Tesla's readings have been entirely omitted from the archive."
Elaborated conspiracy ahead..
http://www.human-resonance.org/life_readings.html
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I also want to mention the majority of signs i have learned this from are libra and gemini. Its quite overwhelming. I'd have expected water signs to be #1 here. 🤔
And you made this thread during Libra season..
I think all signs can be into topics like this. Maybe air signs, as the stereotype goes, are more likely to talk, write, teach... about it. I'm a Cancer and I don't normally initiate these sort of conversations (and I think xxAjuxx is a Pisces?)
Posted by june_rPosted by Pesto101
I also want to mention the majority of signs i have learned this from are libra and gemini. Its quite overwhelming. I'd have expected water signs to be #1 here. 🤔
And you made this thread during Libra season..
I think all signs can be into topics like this. Maybe air signs, as the stereotype goes, are more likely to talk, write, teach... about it. I'm a Cancer and I don't normally initiate these sort of conversations (and I think xxAjuxx is a Pisces?)click to expand
I agree that maybe its up to the air elemental to provide the information in a relatable way to the masses. But nothing is set in concrete.
Tesla was a cancer and he discussed in very explicit detail how his connection to the world taught him the secrets of his inventions.
If water is the essence of intuition and feeling, theres no doubt to me the 2 signs that will dive the deepest are Cancer and Pisces. They sponge information better than anyone imo.
Posted by june_rPosted by Pesto101
I also want to mention the majority of signs i have learned this from are libra and gemini. Its quite overwhelming. I'd have expected water signs to be #1 here. 🤔
And you made this thread during Libra season..
I think all signs can be into topics like this. Maybe air signs, as the stereotype goes, are more likely to talk, write, teach... about it. I'm a Cancer and I don't normally initiate these sort of conversations (and I think xxAjuxx is a Pisces?)click to expand
she's a aries.. a cute one at that
Posted by route666aybbPosted by june_rPosted by Pesto101And you made this thread during Libra season..
I also want to mention the majority of signs i have learned this from are libra and gemini. Its quite overwhelming. I'd have expected water signs to be #1 here. 🤔
I think all signs can be into topics like this. Maybe air signs, as the stereotype goes, are more likely to talk, write, teach... about it. I'm a Cancer and I don't normally initiate these sort of conversations (and I think xxAjuxx is a Pisces?)
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she's a aries.. a cute one at thatclick to expand
Seems to heavily favor cardinal and cardinal heavy signs. Adapt or... 🤐
This will make sense to those who'd rather a somewhat grounded, scientific explanation.
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I'm going to make a different take, because I feel different today. I feel it's just endurance, and a will to not to die. Yet you still know it will happen eventually. Even with that being said, you take all the world's drama. You take all your lives drama, you look your own demons in the eyes, and you laugh. Because you are too strong, too powerful to be taken out today. Even if you feel sick. Even if you want to throw up. Even if the world looks like a haze. You just get up, and keep moving forward. Even if you have to auto pilot some stuff. At the end of the day, you, assuming you survived, is the only one who says you are done. Not life, not society, not the demons, but you and only you. We all have a day to die, and can't escape fate. Till that day comes, I'll be damned if I don't wake up tomorrow, crawl out of bed, and prove how wrong all the things that want to bring me down and destroy me truly are.
all the multitudes of dead versions of you, maimed, vaporized,frozen in carbonite, or drowned, left stuck in backroom universes where nothing can change anymore, you can harness that as magic... use them as an army of spare part automatons that feel no pain and are fulfilling your greater goal.
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