What are the benefits of being conventionally attractive (Page 3)

Posted by PossessionSt
Lol everyone answers as a conventionally attractive person —??

Ya how do you know if you are ..you have always looked the way you do like. You won't know until you are old

But even then if you are conventionally attractive for an older person you still won't know.

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Posted by PossessionSt
Lol everyone answers as a conventionally attractive person —??

Ya how do you know if you are ..you have always looked the way you do like. You won't know until you are old

But even then if you are conventionally attractive for an older person you still won't know.

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When you're attractive you know it by observation, unless you're extremely young or unintelligent.

Perfect example: my cousin was always an above average attractiveness male. One time hanging out with him, another male friend, and a female acquaintance... my cousin called the girl a bitch. She immediately gets enraged and slaps the other male friend across the face, thinking that he was the one who said it. She starts chewing him out and telling him not to talk to ladies like that, etc etc. She was legit angry.

That friend of course, is totally defensive because he *hadn't* said anything. My cousin and I are cracking up. My cousin admits that he was the one who called her a bitch. You know what happened? She didn't apologize to the friend she slapped. She didn't even acknowledge her mistake. Nor did she get mad at my cousin. Her reaction immediately went from angry to

"Oh my god.... you're so naughtyyyyyyyyy" and she was legit batting lashes at my cousin.

That's the difference between being attractive and not.

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Posted by PossessionSt
Lol everyone answers as a conventionally attractive person —??

Ya how do you know if you are ..you have always looked the way you do like. You won't know until you are old

But even then if you are conventionally attractive for an older person you still won't know.

When you're attractive you know it by observation, unless you're extremely young or unintelligent.

Perfect example: my cousin was always an above average attractiveness male. One time hanging out with him, another male friend, and a female acquaintance... my cousin called the girl a bitch. She immediately gets enraged and slaps the other male friend across the face, thinking that he was the one who said it. She starts chewing him out and telling him not to talk to ladies like that, etc etc. She was legit angry.

That friend of course, is totally defensive because he *hadn't* said anything. My cousin and I are cracking up. My cousin admits that he was the one who called her a bitch. You know what happened? She didn't apologize to the friend she slapped. She didn't even acknowledge her mistake. Nor did she get mad at my cousin. Her reaction immediately went from angry to

"Oh my god.... you're so naughtyyyyyyyyy" and she was legit batting lashes at my cousin.

That's the difference between being attractive and not.

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but hasn't she known one of them longer than the other? the degree of intimacy? friends' dirt tolerated more than friends' friends?

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Posted by PossessionSt
Lol everyone answers as a conventionally attractive person —??

Ya how do you know if you are ..you have always looked the way you do like. You won't know until you are old

But even then if you are conventionally attractive for an older person you still won't know.

When you're attractive you know it by observation, unless you're extremely young or unintelligent.

Perfect example: my cousin was always an above average attractiveness male. One time hanging out with him, another male friend, and a female acquaintance... my cousin called the girl a bitch. She immediately gets enraged and slaps the other male friend across the face, thinking that he was the one who said it. She starts chewing him out and telling him not to talk to ladies like that, etc etc. She was legit angry.

That friend of course, is totally defensive because he *hadn't* said anything. My cousin and I are cracking up. My cousin admits that he was the one who called her a bitch. You know what happened? She didn't apologize to the friend she slapped. She didn't even acknowledge her mistake. Nor did she get mad at my cousin. Her reaction immediately went from angry to

"Oh my god.... you're so naughtyyyyyyyyy" and she was legit batting lashes at my cousin.

That's the difference between being attractive and not.

but hasn't she known one of them longer than the other? the degree of intimacy? friends' dirt tolerated more than friends' friends?

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Nope, not at all. She was a new acquaintance to all of us. We had all met her at the same time and spent the same amount of time with her. And my cousin, he easily had the shittiest personality at that point of the three of us (he's very mature now).

I would have chalk it up to just *her* if I hadn't had countless other experiences that show the same sorta results. I've been on both sides of that situation myself. Even with the same female, being rejected and then being completely fawned over a couple of years later.

This is all backed by numerous studies.

You can never isolate look from character. or smell. or morals. or diseases.

You should not be afraid of proposing to beautiful people as long as you've cared to know their inner self, their wishes, their plans, their standards, their journey, their flaws and demons.

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Posted by LittleFairy

Posted by PossessionSt
Lol everyone answers as a conventionally attractive person —??

Ya how do you know if you are ..you have always looked the way you do like. You won't know until you are old

But even then if you are conventionally attractive for an older person you still won't know.

When you're attractive you know it by observation, unless you're extremely young or unintelligent.

Perfect example: my cousin was always an above average attractiveness male. One time hanging out with him, another male friend, and a female acquaintance... my cousin called the girl a bitch. She immediately gets enraged and slaps the other male friend across the face, thinking that he was the one who said it. She starts chewing him out and telling him not to talk to ladies like that, etc etc. She was legit angry.

That friend of course, is totally defensive because he *hadn't* said anything. My cousin and I are cracking up. My cousin admits that he was the one who called her a bitch. You know what happened? She didn't apologize to the friend she slapped. She didn't even acknowledge her mistake. Nor did she get mad at my cousin. Her reaction immediately went from angry to

"Oh my god.... you're so naughtyyyyyyyyy" and she was legit batting lashes at my cousin.

That's the difference between being attractive and not.

but hasn't she known one of them longer than the other? the degree of intimacy? friends' dirt tolerated more than friends' friends?

Nope, not at all. She was a new acquaintance to all of us. We had all met her at the same time and spent the same amount of time with her. And my cousin, he easily had the shittiest personality at that point of the three of us (he's very mature now).

I would have chalk it up to just *her* if I hadn't had countless other experiences that show the same sorta results. I've been on both sides of that situation myself. Even with the same female, being rejected and then being completely fawned over a couple of years later.

This is all backed by numerous studies.

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in that case it looks like a shallow person to me. she should have cared more for the person she insulted bodily and by soul. maybe this is the bad side of being attractive that many of shallow people are eager to be around the good-looking..

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Posted by PossessionSt
Lol everyone answers as a conventionally attractive person —??

Ya how do you know if you are ..you have always looked the way you do like. You won't know until you are old

But even then if you are conventionally attractive for an older person you still won't know.

When you're attractive you know it by observation, unless you're extremely young or unintelligent.

Perfect example: my cousin was always an above average attractiveness male. One time hanging out with him, another male friend, and a female acquaintance... my cousin called the girl a bitch. She immediately gets enraged and slaps the other male friend across the face, thinking that he was the one who said it. She starts chewing him out and telling him not to talk to ladies like that, etc etc. She was legit angry.

That friend of course, is totally defensive because he *hadn't* said anything. My cousin and I are cracking up. My cousin admits that he was the one who called her a bitch. You know what happened? She didn't apologize to the friend she slapped. She didn't even acknowledge her mistake. Nor did she get mad at my cousin. Her reaction immediately went from angry to

"Oh my god.... you're so naughtyyyyyyyyy" and she was legit batting lashes at my cousin.

That's the difference between being attractive and not.

but hasn't she known one of them longer than the other? the degree of intimacy? friends' dirt tolerated more than friends' friends?

Nope, not at all. She was a new acquaintance to all of us. We had all met her at the same time and spent the same amount of time with her. And my cousin, he easily had the shittiest personality at that point of the three of us (he's very mature now).

I would have chalk it up to just *her* if I hadn't had countless other experiences that show the same sorta results. I've been on both sides of that situation myself. Even with the same female, being rejected and then being completely fawned over a couple of years later.

This is all backed by numerous studies.

in that case it looks like a shallow person to me. she should have cared more for the person she insulted bodily and by soul. maybe this is the bad side of being attractive that many of shallow people are eager to be around the good-looking..

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"that many of shallow people are eager to be around the good-looking."

Definitely, Dwelling. But an even darker side is that it exposes the fact that most people are more shallow than they realize and are willing to admit to themselves. Not everyone, but the vast majority of us are subconsciously biased.

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Incorrect, looks inside and out will attract a chick as long as she hasn't already learned how badly she wants you to have $ $ $ . Which ultimately once they see you aint got a job or whatever, they will toss your ass out.

The primary exception is if she is sitting on a shit ton of wealth herself. Then she doesn't need it from you to begin with.

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Some girls and some cultures do care to see the proof of how smart or hard-working he is before they take off.

Then there are these other cultures whered girls do not want to miss a fun. Also they want to be liberate. So they start dating only for the sake of the person. Then day by day they bring their box of expectations, put it on the desk and measure the man's abilities.

Most of the boys don't care if they currently are dating a girl just for fun or is it for marriage and settle-down. Girls do care. well, except for the fwb type of girl.

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Posted by schwarz
And what are the benefits of being conventionally unattractive?

Depends on your sex. Women get loads of attention because men are "supposed" to be the initiators in the first place. Attractive Men(tm) still have to take the dominant role, especially if they are goin after someone who is significantly attractive themselves, so all they get is a bunch of fangirls that secretly wanna fuck them but won't actually act on it themselves 99% of the time.

If she is significantly unattractive, or is damaged, your ability to manipulate and take advantage of a chick goes up significantly. In a homosexual situation, these rules don't tend to apply as inherently.

But mostly it just increases the odds of a chick sayin yes when you pursue her. You still have to be attractive in pretty much all or at least most ways to maintain the relationship for long. But especially financially.

WHAT!!! now how can an attractive (a VERY attractive one I might add) man be dominant or take on that role? please explain that one before I log off.

I think LC is saying that he should show explicitely which one all those million girls he prefers to be with.

The reality has shown: there are some men (what percent we don't know) who are released when a woman takes the lead and let the thing take off.

In this discussion we should not forget that beauty does not come alone. Whether they can make good money, or take lead or be loyal are all character traits which exist independently.

oh yeah most attractive men can take lead in making good money no doubt. they can most definitely be loyal. some of them aren't loyal giving the fact that some women leads them on. but if you one of those types that truly believe alphas exist, attractive men doesn't stand a chance at that. there are some attractive men (like myself of course) rather be spoil rotten to the core than take lead of any kind.

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well, I stick with my opinion that only a part of men are open to female initiatives.

also for years (decades?) men do not care to settle down. and if girl spoil them, they agree. if they have to ask for a dance, they do it too. that does not mean commitment yet.

many women see every action more promissing and expensive. that is why LC mentioned women would wait and wish he wanted them. I think even if he takes lead it is not end of the story. There has been men who let the love of their life go cause they were not ready. Or they doubted. Or they prefered a needy woman over one who is demanding. or all kinds of different reasons that exist.

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Incorrect, looks inside and out will attract a chick as long as she hasn't already learned how badly she wants you to have $ $ $ . Which ultimately once they see you aint got a job or whatever, they will toss your ass out.

The primary exception is if she is sitting on a shit ton of wealth herself. Then she doesn't need it from you to begin with.

I like it how it's mostly men who disagree with me.

I'm a woman and 98 percent of my friends are women in their twenties.

These are my observations.

I've only met one girl in her late twenties thus far that put looks as her #1 trait in a guy. She's pretty much a bro who occasionally wears dresses. She is also still single and miserable. I think her longest relationships is 6 months.

The reason I disagree is because I went from not so attractive to a bit over average so I know the difference in how women react. Since becoming "conventionally attractive" I've always had women who wanted to be with me, even unemployed and broke. And if anything, my personality has worsened since growing into my looks.

And women (and other men) put up with bad behavior more from attractive men.

No one is saying that the majority of women put looks as the #1 trait, simply that women are attracted to looks. But you seem to be implying that the majority of women are straight gold diggers and I'd think that most other women would take exception to that.

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you attracted more women not because you "got better looking"

but you felt better about yourself and thus became more confident.

they were attracted to the fact that you were less insecure...even when you started to act like a douche.

also how old were these women?

and when you were broke...how long did you your relationships last?

are still seeing anyone of these women?



and wanting a dude who can help take care of your family if you should have one one day with him

does not make you a gold digger.

it's funny when guys assume that.

a gold digger wants you for your money only.

most women want an ambitious guy who is confident, can provide for his family and

who can protect his family. That's not the same thing.

Lazy "good looking dudes" tend to get dropped fast.Most women don't want to the pressure of single-handedly taking care of their family.They often start to resent the dude they are with.The men usually will start to feel emasculated.

Financial issues are the #1 reason for divorce.

The last girl I alluded to ...the outlier... the one who was in her late twenties and still placed looks as her #1 broke up with her last boyfriend because "he was too young" for her aka she didn't like that she felt like she was taking care of him like his mother. She paid for a lot of stuff as the dude didn't even have a car.

He was still in school.

In reality, he was only 2 years younger than her.

He was super confident though and a bit of douche...which attracted her in the beginning.

Men like me ..I like me ... 🙂

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Incorrect, looks inside and out will attract a chick as long as she hasn't already learned how badly she wants you to have $ $ $ . Which ultimately once they see you aint got a job or whatever, they will toss your ass out.

The primary exception is if she is sitting on a shit ton of wealth herself. Then she doesn't need it from you to begin with.

I like it how it's mostly men who disagree with me.

I'm a woman and 98 percent of my friends are women in their twenties.

These are my observations.

I've only met one girl in her late twenties thus far that put looks as her #1 trait in a guy. She's pretty much a bro who occasionally wears dresses. She is also still single and miserable. I think her longest relationships is 6 months.

The reason I disagree is because I went from not so attractive to a bit over average so I know the difference in how women react. Since becoming "conventionally attractive" I've always had women who wanted to be with me, even unemployed and broke. And if anything, my personality has worsened since growing into my looks.

And women (and other men) put up with bad behavior more from attractive men.

No one is saying that the majority of women put looks as the #1 trait, simply that women are attracted to looks. But you seem to be implying that the majority of women are straight gold diggers and I'd think that most other women would take exception to that.

you attracted more women not because you "got better looking"

but you felt better about yourself and thus became more confident.

they were attracted to the fact that you were less insecure...even when you started to act like a douche.

also how old were these women?

and when you were broke...how long did you your relationships last?

are still seeing anyone of these women?



and wanting a dude who can help take care of your family if you should have one one day with him

does not make you a gold digger.

it's funny when guys assume that.

a gold digger wants you for your money only.

most women want an ambitious guy who is confident, can provide for his family and

who can protect his family. That's not the same thing.

Lazy "good looking dudes" tend to get dropped fast.Most women don't want to the pressure of single-handedly taking care of their family.They often start to resent the dude they are with.The men usually will start to feel emasculated.

Financial issues are the #1 reason for divorce.

The last girl I alluded to ...the outlier... the one who was in her late twenties and still placed looks as her #1 broke up with her last boyfriend because "he was too young" for her aka she didn't like that she felt like she was taking care of him like his mother. She paid for a lot of stuff as the dude didn't even have a car.

He was still in school.

In reality, he was only 2 years younger than her.

He was super confident though and a bit of douche...which attracted her in the beginning.

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"you attracted more women not because you "got better looking"

but you felt better about yourself and thus became more confident."

Nope, because I get approached by women all the time and they don't know my personality. They approach based off of looks. Most guys have no idea what it's like to have woman initiating. I do.



"and when you were broke...how long did you your relationships last?

are still seeing anyone of these women?"

Not talking about relationships, I'm talking about hooking up with women. But I've never been dumped and I could probably get with any of them women I've been with in the past either as hookups or dating pretty easily, if they're single. THAT is because of personality though, not looks.

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they were attracted to the fact that you were less insecure...even when you started to act like a douche.

also how old were these women?"

Nah because I'm talking about women approaching me. They do that when they think a guy is attractive enough. Can't be chalked up to my personality. And I'm talking 20's to late 30's. Women older do flirt with me a lot but I'm still young so they don't try to "pick me up."

Posted by TheTinMan
I'm pretty but don't get like carried away acting feminine. I'm calm as the sea.

You get away with acting hysterical. Another one. It's true.

I am a nice person...but people generally think i am before i prove it. Halo effect.

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Posted by schwarz
And what are the benefits of being conventionally unattractive?

#The pros of being attractive is that, its easier for you to get man/woman you like.

- And the con

Sometime, you gonna be hated for no reason because they think you're a threat or they jealous or they want to make you low to make themself high etc. You gonna be hated too when someone secretely yearn for your love but turn out you're dating or marrying others.

Sometime, other people attention will make you kinda lose focus on your own live. (from my experience)

#The pros of being unattractive is that, you can blend with every people easily because you're just like them, unattractive.

Because other not attracted to you, you can focus on your own live.

But yes the con is that, you need to do some work to get men/woman attracted on you.

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true

It's my sparkling personality

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Incorrect, looks inside and out will attract a chick as long as she hasn't already learned how badly she wants you to have $ $ $ . Which ultimately once they see you aint got a job or whatever, they will toss your ass out.

The primary exception is if she is sitting on a shit ton of wealth herself. Then she doesn't need it from you to begin with.

I like it how it's mostly men who disagree with me.

I'm a woman and 98 percent of my friends are women in their twenties.

These are my observations.

I've only met one girl in her late twenties thus far that put looks as her #1 trait in a guy. She's pretty much a bro who occasionally wears dresses. She is also still single and miserable. I think her longest relationships is 6 months.

The reason I disagree is because I went from not so attractive to a bit over average so I know the difference in how women react. Since becoming "conventionally attractive" I've always had women who wanted to be with me, even unemployed and broke. And if anything, my personality has worsened since growing into my looks.

And women (and other men) put up with bad behavior more from attractive men.

No one is saying that the majority of women put looks as the #1 trait, simply that women are attracted to looks. But you seem to be implying that the majority of women are straight gold diggers and I'd think that most other women would take exception to that.

you attracted more women not because you "got better looking"

but you felt better about yourself and thus became more confident.

they were attracted to the fact that you were less insecure...even when you started to act like a douche.

also how old were these women?

and when you were broke...how long did you your relationships last?

are still seeing anyone of these women?



and wanting a dude who can help take care of your family if you should have one one day with him

does not make you a gold digger.

it's funny when guys assume that.

a gold digger wants you for your money only.

most women want an ambitious guy who is confident, can provide for his family and

who can protect his family. That's not the same thing.

Lazy "good looking dudes" tend to get dropped fast.Most women don't want to the pressure of single-handedly taking care of their family.They often start to resent the dude they are with.The men usually will start to feel emasculated.

Financial issues are the #1 reason for divorce.

The last girl I alluded to ...the outlier... the one who was in her late twenties and still placed looks as her #1 broke up with her last boyfriend because "he was too young" for her aka she didn't like that she felt like she was taking care of him like his mother. She paid for a lot of stuff as the dude didn't even have a car.

He was still in school.

In reality, he was only 2 years younger than her.

He was super confident though and a bit of douche...which attracted her in the beginning.

"you attracted more women not because you "got better looking"

but you felt better about yourself and thus became more confident."

Nope, because I get approached by women all the time and they don't know my personality. They approach based off of looks. Most guys have no idea what it's like to have woman initiating. I do.



"and when you were broke...how long did you your relationships last?

are still seeing anyone of these women?"

Not talking about relationships, I'm talking about hooking up with women. But I've never been dumped and I could probably get with any of them women I've been with in the past either as hookups or dating pretty easily, if they're single. THAT is because of personality though, not looks.

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they were attracted to the fact that you were less insecure...even when you started to act like a douche.

also how old were these women?"

Nah because I'm talking about women approaching me. They do that when they think a guy is attractive enough. Can't be chalked up to my personality. And I'm talking 20's to late 30's. Women older do flirt with me a lot but I'm still young so they don't try to "pick me up."

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Confidence has nothing to do with personality. You can have an awesome personality and be insecure af. And you can be a confident douche.

Women can tell an insecure guy from one who is secure just by looking at them.

It's the way you carry yourself (posture, grooming , style ) . You don't necessarily have to have a conversation with someone.

And we are talking about dating....not hooking up.

That's the point.

Women just like men will hook up with someone...personality aside or whatever defects aside.

Even in todays culture where casual sex is so normalized that ..it's easier to have sex with someone than

to get them to actually go out with you and see you as someone they actually could be in a relationship with.



A lot of women in their early twenties and I would say especially in their 30s hook up because for two reasons. The first being that they have needs just like any other human being . The second and most prevalent reason is that women use sex for validation especially after a failed relationship....in which case any guy who is not offensive enough will do. I think it's even becoming more increasingly common for these women to hook up with other women even in some cases...even though they are straight...

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I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Incorrect, looks inside and out will attract a chick as long as she hasn't already learned how badly she wants you to have $ $ $ . Which ultimately once they see you aint got a job or whatever, they will toss your ass out.

The primary exception is if she is sitting on a shit ton of wealth herself. Then she doesn't need it from you to begin with.

I like it how it's mostly men who disagree with me.

I'm a woman and 98 percent of my friends are women in their twenties.

These are my observations.

I've only met one girl in her late twenties thus far that put looks as her #1 trait in a guy. She's pretty much a bro who occasionally wears dresses. She is also still single and miserable. I think her longest relationships is 6 months.

The reason I disagree is because I went from not so attractive to a bit over average so I know the difference in how women react. Since becoming "conventionally attractive" I've always had women who wanted to be with me, even unemployed and broke. And if anything, my personality has worsened since growing into my looks.

And women (and other men) put up with bad behavior more from attractive men.

No one is saying that the majority of women put looks as the #1 trait, simply that women are attracted to looks. But you seem to be implying that the majority of women are straight gold diggers and I'd think that most other women would take exception to that.

you attracted more women not because you "got better looking"

but you felt better about yourself and thus became more confident.

they were attracted to the fact that you were less insecure...even when you started to act like a douche.

also how old were these women?

and when you were broke...how long did you your relationships last?

are still seeing anyone of these women?



and wanting a dude who can help take care of your family if you should have one one day with him

does not make you a gold digger.

it's funny when guys assume that.

a gold digger wants you for your money only.

most women want an ambitious guy who is confident, can provide for his family and

who can protect his family. That's not the same thing.

Lazy "good looking dudes" tend to get dropped fast.Most women don't want to the pressure of single-handedly taking care of their family.They often start to resent the dude they are with.The men usually will start to feel emasculated.

Financial issues are the #1 reason for divorce.

The last girl I alluded to ...the outlier... the one who was in her late twenties and still placed looks as her #1 broke up with her last boyfriend because "he was too young" for her aka she didn't like that she felt like she was taking care of him like his mother. She paid for a lot of stuff as the dude didn't even have a car.

He was still in school.

In reality, he was only 2 years younger than her.

He was super confident though and a bit of douche...which attracted her in the beginning.

money is what makes a woman stay.



looks is what attracts women in the first place. women are more vain than men in reality.

https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e









when a guy has looks and money is never short of female company. he gets his pick.

everything else is cope.

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I currently have two friends that are engaged who met their significant other

on a dating app.

Guess what?

Looks were towards the bottom of their list.

They purposefully went for the geeky guy who seemed nice...and as a result, both feel like they hit the lotto.

Dating websites/apps should be split into four groups

the 18-25 crowd ( all sexual orientations), the 25+ male crowd ( bisexual, gay men incl) , and the 25+ female crowd ( including lesbians), and the outliers ...men of all ages...but usually much older who are actually looking for the one.



the last two groups join dating websites with the hopes of meeting someone they could ultimately spend the rest of their lives with. The other groups are more prone to use these sites/apps as a means to hook up.

...in which case "looks" matter.

however I'd still reiterate more for men.

The 18-25 yr old female crowd will say an average looking guy is hot..if he seems well groomed and confident ...and often times they'll hook up just for the experience/peer pressure etc.

..pretty much validation.

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
I like it how it's mostly men who disagree with me.

I'm a woman and 98 percent of my friends are women in their twenties.

These are my observations.

I've only met one girl in her late twenties thus far that put looks as her #1 trait in a guy. She's pretty much a bro who occasionally wears dresses. She is also still single and miserable. I think her longest relationships is 6 months.

Your observations are because:

1.Women are not the initiators. It is most likely that you and your friends are not attractive enough for attractive guys to actually pursue in the first place. It isn't for the most part about what is attractive to women, rather it is all about how attractive the woman herself is. Since the game is all about reeling men in. I just find it hilarious that it doesn't even cross your mind that the reason you and your friends aren't with attractive guys. Is because you aren't attractive.

2.Women always believe THEY are entitled. They have this mentality that if a guy doesn't match up they can always just dump him and find someone else. Which is exactly why most women end up alone or in an empty relationship with a rich guy.

My grandparents are the only real kind of relationship that lasts happily. Which is when both people treat each other like equals and do not put monetary value on things. They come from a generation where the women don't all think they are literally Princesses that "deserve" to be pampered like selfish entitled cunts.

In any case 2 can play that game. I am gonna get rich and then I am gonna get with a chick only to break up with her in a week after fucking her like 50 times and hand her a list of reasons why she isn't good enough lmao. Alphaz rule lolol

3.Those bro gals are more masculine so they tend to be more rational. They aren't immature little princess cunts. She probably actually works hard herself instead of expecting a Man to "take care of her" like a pathetic weak little baby.

In regards to her relationship success. It has nothing to do with the fact that she doesn't care about money as much. Focusing on looks has the same core issue that focusing on money does: It has nothing to do with Personality. Her relationships last only a few months because she meets retards and dickfaces. Not because they don't have money.

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LOL

Dude, you are twenty-three years old.

You're so wise.

How do you know so much about life and about women in general?

...

No but seriously

Just briefly skimming through your post there are a lot of attacks against me and my friends who you've never met and in general towards women....which is extremely strange...especially for someone who is your age.

You have a lot of angst/contempt for women which is indicative of early childhood rejection ( from you mother) and possibly consistent rejection during puberty and adolescence.

I hope you don't turn out to be one of those middle-aged men who divorced three times and think that the problem is women in general. Maybe you'll turn out to be one of those overweight middle aged guys who never married and yet still has the same contempt for women. You'll spend your weeknights in local AA , and or PAA ( porn addicts anonymous) meetings trying to cope and occasionally will pay for sex and or try to pick up younger girls ( who are usually destitute) ...with the lure that you'd help them financially.

lol lordcomplexity will NEVER financially give a woman anything.

so you better be careful with this man. lol

I don't believe it though cause Libra placements ALWAYS give (from what I've seen in real life with my uncles, and family members with libra) unless they have virgo/cancer/pisces then it's a bit more frugal yet STILL giving.

that libra will be giving.

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Posted by TheTinMan
having the sign of mars in cancer v/s having the sign of cancer in Sun. there is absolutely no comparison there son. mars is the planet of action. not the sun. cancer mars are *clears throat* killers. not violent like in shooting people. we have killer instincts.

It just means you are even more cuck than a Cancer Sun. The sun is only cuck in thought/ego. The Mars means you are a cuck by nature. Don't even try it bruh, you are talkin to Scorp Mars. We DEFINE violence, and we aren't killers... we are torturers. We will break your bones limb by limb, chop you up inch by inch, and then fuck your remains for sick kicks.

(But seriously, I know what the Mars placement is. I knew when I pointed that out. You have a MOTHER'S instincts. Of COURSE a mother will kill to protect her loved ones. But that isn't what I meant. It's too acute, you'll only be that way when you absolutely have to. When pushed. A woman will instinctually be studying your reactions and actions with things and you will NOT give off dominance I'm afraid.)

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Scorpio mars truly is the most try hard placement ever in any chart.

That edginess.

Posted by LordComplexity
I hate to break it to you but that fantasy of a bunch of women seducing a super attractive man is not real and it never will be.

😢

Posted by LordComplexity
I hate to break it to you but that fantasy of a bunch of women seducing a super attractive man is not real and it never will be.

😢

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Posted by LordComplexity
I hate to break it to you but that fantasy of a bunch of women seducing a super attractive man is not real and it never will be.

😢

I don't know what's this guy talking about. that post he made is fantasy. it's true women seduce men.

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I am sad for him because he reminds me of Hans Christian Andersen's The Little Match Girl. Always looking through windows at other people experience the life she cannot.

Posted by LordComplexity
It just means you are even more cuck than a Cancer Sun. The sun is only cuck in thought/ego. The Mars means you are a cuck by nature. Don't even try it bruh, you are talkin to Scorp Mars. We DEFINE violence, and we aren't killers... we are torturers. We will break your bones limb by limb, chop you up inch by inch, and then fuck your remains for sick kicks.

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
Dude, you are twenty-three years old.

You're so wise.

Pointing to age to signify maturity, you're soooo wise and mature yourself... oh wait.

How do you know so much about life and about women in general?

Because I have been through hell, and I don't make it any easier for myself as time goes on.

Just briefly skimming through your post there are a lot of attacks against me and my friends who you've never met and in general towards women....which is extremely strange...especially for someone who is your age.

I'm sorry you were saying? I skimmed through without paying attention.

You have a lot of angst/contempt

Angst? Are you sure bout dat? I aint no motherfuckin teenager, so I doubt it's angst. I would argue the only thing I have for women is a lot of lust, and understanding of the "game".

For women which is indicative of early childhood rejection ( from you mother) and possibly consistent rejection during puberty and adolescence.

I love when people psychoanalyze based on some amateur knowledge of psychology, rather than an actual understanding and comprehension of what makes people tick. Hell even if you had a degree in the field, I would just tell you it's a barbaric science and laugh in your face. Shrug.

My mother has always been a tough titty, but rejection has never really been an issue as far as other women go. Besides chicks online, here on DXP. But in person, it is more accurately like I can have anyone I want. Contempt for women because of rejection? That's dumb. Why do you have to reduce my criticisms of the status quo to something so retarded? Rather than address it properly and with respect?

I hope you don't turn out to be one of those middle-aged men who divorced three times and think that the problem is women in general.

I am pretty sure I just won't simply get married, unless I meet someone who sticks around long and strong enough. They'd have to be like, a true ride or die. Shrug.

Maybe you'll turn out to be one of those overweight middle aged guys who never married and yet still has the same contempt for women.

I love how you try to downplay me. Overweight? I work out intensely, pushing my limits to the max. Just because I can, with no intention of ever stopping. I have a metabolism to where even if I didn't work out, I would never get fat no matter how much I eat. But more importantly, I want to put the focus on how POWERFUL I am by nature. I don't do any sort of professional fighting sport or whatever and yet I constantly train my fighting ability. Be it melee, with a weapon, or what have you.

It's just... I'm sorry but you are a total hypocrite. You are the one mindlessly attacking me and assuming things about me. I am the farthest thing from what you are suggesting.

You'll spend your weeknights in local AA.

Ironically both my parents were alcoholics. But I have never been addicted to anything and probably never will.

Or PAA(porn addicts anonymous)

At best it would have to be sex addicts anonymous, because I don't have an issue getting laid contrary to what you seem to think about me.

...with the lure that you'd help them financially.

Oh god no. Financially pamper a woman? Never in a billion years. Even if I were rich at best I'd pay your house bills and buy you food. Buy you gifts for your birthday and holidays. Take you out on dates every now and then. But you got another thing comin if you think I am goin to feed your entitlement. Princesses gotta grow up sometime, ever heard of a Queen? Queens have backbones, they are the princess after she is forced to face harsh reality. I am a Man and a King, I only get involved with Queens.

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You literally just proved me right.

"My mother was an alcoholic / tough titty."

...it's not irony dude? It's an accurate assessment of who you are.

Don't want to get married? aka you have trust issues? shocker.

Getting laid and actually having healthy relationships are also two different things.

Anyone can get laid almost nowadays...as I explained before in previous posts.

Getting someone to actually date /want to be in an extended relationship is much harder.

And yeah you are 23 yr old ,

guy ,

who uses words like c*nt in his explanation for what makes women tick.

so of course I'm not going to take you seriously or treat anything you have to say with respect.

At 23..regardless of whatever you went through...you've barely even scratched the surface.

especially in regards to knowing yourself.....which is clearly apparent from everything you've been typing.

I guess Pisces Sun Libra Moon > Libra Sun Pisces Moon....at least as far as introspection goes.

Libras really suck at that I've noticed...maybe astrology is true.

I get that it's uncomfortable but you've honestly have to sit down and really look at yourself.

Simply going to the gym is not going to make you a better person.



And btw telling you that you've got some emotional/psychological issues that you need to work out based on things that you've said about women is not a mindless attack. The majority of people have some sort of issues they need to work out... especially if they want to improve themselves and have healthy relationships....it's called being human.

In your case...emotional rejection/attachment issues might be something you want to investigate.

Members of S.LA.A. and P.A.A. often overlap because they have the same psychological /emotional issues that cause them to act out with their addictions. If you think one group is better than the other....then it shows

how much you know about life in general..especially as a 23 yr old.



And funny...you claim to have briefly skimmed over everything I last wrote but then went on to counter almost every point I made ( sentence by sentence.) lol

*drops the microphone*

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
You literally just proved me right.

Lolno

"My mother was an alcoholic / tough titty."

...it's not irony dude? It's an accurate assessment of who you are.

Uh, no, because my parents do not define me. Nobody is responsible for how you turn out except yourself. You can talk about child behavior and this and that, but that is all subject to upheaval upon your development of true consciousness and freewill that is elicited with adolescence and fully realized in adulthood. Even worse is that, even though your parents raise you, most are subject to many other influential forces. Thus the outcome of a person's nature and personality can be radically different or not even remotely near being reflected or guided by the parents.

In other words, it is ironic because both my parents were alcoholics. Alcoholism is genetic, and my mother's alcoholism was present enough in my life to influence me. Yet I am not even remotely an alcoholic. Never have been and I can assure you I never will be.

Why? Because you don't know me enough to make any sort of analysis of how or why I have developed the way I am. I could also tell you that I never had a father, that he left as soon as he found out about me. That would counteract whatever perceived rejection I would have to deal with from my mother because I would become significantly more independent and resistant to outside influence considering I virtually had to be and still am, my own father. I wouldn't be an Alcoholic like her because I am too mentally strong to let substances influence me. Doctors have injected me with powerful sedatives and I still thought with full rationale and self control. As well had the physical strength and prowess to hold off the entire staff from subduing me.

Even if I were to be behaviorally inclined to cope with alcohol, or were in some way drawn to drinking alcohol like my mother had, the actual result wouldn't pan out the same because as 2 individual people. It is more apt to put me and her side by side as a comparison, because what you would see is 2 entirely different people. Maybe even outright opposite in nature. Thus begetting completely opposite ways in which the 2 scenarios play out. With me being strong of my own volition, just because. Her being strong only once she had to, to get her kids back.

Don't want to get married? aka you have trust issues? shocker.

What ISSUES are you referring to? It is hilarious to me how modern psychology tries to make people complacent to things and makes them believe perfectly rational, healthy, and natural things are actually disorders and diseases. Even Love itself, as in actual Love in what it is supposed to mean and be, therapists proclaim as the dirty word "co-dependence". Or they will call what people would have called Geniuses not that long ago, "Autistic", and say it is primarily an intelligence or social disorder. Rather than focus on the subtle hints that we most likely found the actual source of "Divine Intelligence". I could go on and on.

Psychology is a barbaric science, like I said. It tries to "fix" the mind more than it actually cares to understand it in the first place. As if people didn't deal with "mental disorder" before it's conception? As if they didn't somehow manage to find solutions to such disorder on their own without it? Or for that matter, that "mental order" is the way of things?

To put it quite simply. What problem? The only insane one here is the one suggesting that people on average are trustworthy, respectable, deserving, and sane. In a world where Trump managed to become president. Bitch please.

Getting laid and actually having healthy relationships are also two different things.

My side is perfectly healthy, ask anyone who knows me and they will tell you I am the best kind of person to date. But I will admit, I have a problem with attracting crazy abusive bitches. Does that mean I hold resentment for women? No. Does that mean I think those women's behavior is typical? Maybe. Shrug.

Getting someone to actually date /want to be in an extended relationship is much harder.

I don't have a problem with this either tho. I will say that as it stands I need to change my financial situation so that I am the one in control. Because whenever other people have power over me. They ALWAYS use it abusively. Hell I noticed that is just how people are, to each other, in general. The average person isn't meant to be in charge. 99 out of 100 will corrupt. It is only a select few that have the best interests of all involved when they are elevated above others.

You are 23 yr old, guy, who uses words like c*nt in his explanation for what makes women tick. So of course I'm not going to take you seriously or treat anything you have to say with respect.

1.Again, age really REALLY has nothing to do with it. I just got out of a relationship with a 28 year old woman. She was so immature in some respects that it is literally like she is stuck in her teen years.

2.The idea that you have to be or do the thing yourself to know the thing is an assertion that has always originated from nothing other than people pulling shit out of their ass. It's like mothers who think they know better than scientists/professionals so they don't get their children medical help. Yet even a male doctor who asserts that vaccines don't cause autism knows what's best for children more than any mother on earth that wants to disagree. Hell, the Highest God in all of existence may indeed be genderless, but they are yet still ultimately and purely Masculine in nature. Yet he knows everything, little alone knows more than any woman on earth, little alone about themselves and what makes them tick.

3.What is less commendable is that you distort my usage of the word cunt.

At 23..regardless of whatever you went through...you've barely even scratched the surface.

Only because there is always still infinitely more to scratch. You could live 1 billion years and still be regarded a student as much a master. Yet still, I surely have scratched more than you ever have in your entire life, in even just 5 years of mine.

Especially in regards to knowing yourself... which is clearly apparent from everything you've been typing. As far as introspection goes, Libras really suck at that I've noticed... maybe astrology is true.

I walk circles around you, as far as introspection goes.

Telling you that you've got some emotional/psychological issues that you need to work out based on things that you've said about women is not a mindless attack.

It is when you avoided all my arguments and decided to just spew a biased diatribe about how basically I'm a cuck loser. Which also, happens to be false regardless.

In your case...emotional rejection/attachment issues might be something you want to investigate.

Members of S.LA.A. and P.A.A. often overlap because they have the same psychological /emotional issues that cause them to act out with their addictions. If you think one group is better than the other....then it shows how much you know about life in general..especially as a 23 yr old.

Gaaaaaaaaaay

(P.S: I have been diagnosed with reactive attachment disorder, which as a sidenote, has an ancronym of RAD. So suck it losers, I'm sooo RAD. But seriously tho, the fact that you are even remotely right does not mean you are right about the rest of your dog turd analysis. Shrug. I see it as a blessing more than a curse, because honestly people really are more often than not unreliable. That's just the blunt harsh truth. You are lying to yourself and suffering of a disorder of your own if you believe otherwise, tbh. At least I'm strong enough to stand alone.)

And funny...you claim to have briefly skimmed over everything I last wrote but then went on to counter almost every point I made ( sentence by sentence.) lol

*drops the microphone*

Um... I hate to break this to you. But nowhere did I even imply that I was referring to the rest of your post. It was implied by that being said to that specific paragraph, and that I continued responding to anything after that. That I was just bein a sarcastic asshole.

Oh and btw. What you just said, word for word. Is an admittance of somethin I have never before been able to get others to see or admit. That they ignore and avoid addressing almost everything I say. All of my arguments. Whereas I meticulously pick everything they say apart bit by bit like a relentless beast.

So let's face it. You just sucked my dick right there. Thanks. You really know how to please a guy.



It can be anyone's cock btw, but preferably mine. You can even try to mumble out advice on how to resolve my attachment problems if you want, but I'm p sure I'll be too big and deep for it to make any sense.

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Jesus Christ, you wrote a short novel.

Your argument is riddled with so many logical fallacies.

Especially .....Ad hominem.

Ad hominem never wins debates.

Did you go to college? Where did you learn how to construct an argument?

This thread is 13 pages long! Attractive? I am told, "You intimidate men" not! 😡 They just don't know me; and when they do, and they do me wrong, I swim away...."I'm the one that got away!" Also, I've been told, "You're too picky when choosing a man". Uh, DUH, my prerogative. Do I want a man that's a SEX OFFENDER? Not! Do I want a SHORT man? Not! Do I want a married man?! NOT! Do I want a man that cheats on me?! NOT! Do I want......NOT! 😡 (Eva calmed down now)...it's in my birth chart (thank GOD I am a STRONG woman!).

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

Posted by Neno2
The benefits are:

U feel better

U have more confidence

Girls stare at you



The downside:

No girl wants to be with a too good looking guy

If u look to good girls are not able to talk normal to u

If u approach a girl they get intimidated



I read somewhere that beautiful girls marry average looking guys rather then good looking ones,also good looking people cheat more

Thus the movie, "She's outta My League" 😢 (That's what the guys say to themselves about me).

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

BUT I already knew that! 😆

Dude, if you ever go to Europe go to Germany, you can get hookers there for 20€-30€ and they are clean. So much for your wants and needs. ^^

On a serious note: The problem with career/rich guys who have sacrificed their lives for their careers is that they are the reason for gold diggers and It girls. When they were younger they got rejected by girls, so they were like "once I get older, I will make money and get back at all those bitches". What they don't realize is, that they will fall in love with a gold digger and suffer. That's why all those MGTOW morons won't ever live the life they dream about. They hate women and want revanche by making money in order to buy sex . They create what they hate the most lol



THUS one of the shows called SNAPPED.....gold diggers want MORE! They gamble, run up 20 credit cards, don't pay their mortgage for over four months, hide IRS letters from husband, etc., and guess what? Yep! She kills him for his life insurance; prison time over 25 years; loses FAMILY, freedom, ability to drink their Louis Roederer Cristal Brut Champagne 🍹 TRADES their Louis Vuitton for stripes 😱

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

oh... looks definitely attract girls.

after a certain age not really.....



if this were true more men would have body image issues and would elect for more cosmetic procedures

It is true though.

Men do have body image issues, many of them, but that's not even relevant to whether or not females are attracted to good looking males. And cosmetic surgery is also not relevant. Men are taught to tough out being ugly and women are taught to seek improvement. Doesn't mean men don't feel insecurities.

You want proof? Read some threads on dxp where guys are talking about looksmaxing. Why would they talk about that if they didn't care what they looked like? Why would guys care what they look like if they didn't have body image issues?

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THUS THE JOHNSON pics we women get from DXP member(s)....eeek!!! 😱

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

Posted by EvatheDiva
This thread is 13 pages long! Attractive? I am told, "You intimidate men" not! 😡 They just don't know me; and when they do, and they do me wrong, I swim away...."I'm the one that got away!" Also, I've been told, "You're too picky when choosing a man". Uh, DUH, my prerogative. Do I want a man that's a SEX OFFENDER? Not! Do I want a SHORT man? Not! Do I want a married man?! NOT! Do I want a man that cheats on me?! NOT! Do I want......NOT! 😡 (Eva calmed down now)...it's in my birth chart (thank GOD I am a STRONG woman!).

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

>Do I want a man that's a SEX OFFENDER? Not! Do I want a SHORT man? Not! Do I want a married man?! NOT! Do I want a man that cheats on me?! NOT! Do I want......NOT!

Omfg wow lol

I mean, I knew short guys had it rough. But not to the extent that women view them on the same level as sex offenders and married men.

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
Jesus Christ, you wrote a short novel.

You're saying that's a bad thing? It is, contrary to popular opinion, a sign of great intelligence.

Your argument is riddled with so many logical fallacies.

Especially .....Ad hominem.

Ad hominem never wins debates.

No, it isn't, but that makes this one big red herring. I put up such a meticulous and well thought out response to your post and this is the only remote attempt at any sort of rebuttal and it's pathetic.

Also btw. You're a total hypocrite. All your responses thus far have been convoluted ad hominems and nothin else.

Did you go to college? Where did you learn how to construct an argument?

When I convinced yo mom to go to bed with me, duh.

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yes it is...

you literally placed a meme in your response calling me a retard and telling me to go suck your cock...

which are insults/attacks..... ( ad hominem)

and now you are talking about my deceased mother



also ...you wrote a lot but most of it again was riddled with insults and the rest were illogical points that didn't really back up any of your claims.

so not a sign of intelligence.....

you kind of remind me of Donald Trump.

LadyNeptune was right.

So interesting to see the opposite of me.

I like my placements. I guess I got lucky.

I wouldn't want to be you.



maybe you are just a troll?

Or are you really this horrible in real life?

You seem to be antagonizing multiple people on this thread.

so I hope your just a troll.

I usually like trolls....but you aren't a very good one.

no wit.

not brevity.

just annoying.

@firefighter was at least funny with his 4 in penis story.

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Posted by EvatheDiva
This thread is 13 pages long! Attractive? I am told, "You intimidate men" not! 😡 They just don't know me; and when they do, and they do me wrong, I swim away...."I'm the one that got away!" Also, I've been told, "You're too picky when choosing a man". Uh, DUH, my prerogative. Do I want a man that's a SEX OFFENDER? Not! Do I want a SHORT man? Not! Do I want a married man?! NOT! Do I want a man that cheats on me?! NOT! Do I want......NOT! 😡 (Eva calmed down now)...it's in my birth chart (thank GOD I am a STRONG woman!).

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

>Do I want a man that's a SEX OFFENDER? Not! Do I want a SHORT man? Not! Do I want a married man?! NOT! Do I want a man that cheats on me?! NOT! Do I want......NOT!

Omfg wow lol

I mean, I knew short guys had it rough. But not to the extent that women view them on the same level as sex offenders and married men.

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But the list goes on and on. Remember, it's MY prerogative (Bobby Brown); AKA "My choice" 😉



🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
blahblahblah

Listen babe you clearly do not care to invest in this as much as I have, so what in the hell are we even fighting for anyways? Literally at this point in the back and fourth you just spout out these fourth-assed attempts to address what I said and honestly I could care less if you agree with my assessment of how the world works.

Want to prove me wrong? Let's hook up.

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Gross.