What are the benefits of being conventionally attractive

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being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

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being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*
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I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

@rockyroadicecream

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

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You're an idiot parroting idiotic cliches like that one.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

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Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).
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hahaha

women who work at Walmart by the cash register won't look to you huh? 😛 😆

or rather, you wont bother with them. heehee. 😆

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

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some women need some kind of good looks. lol

😛 😆

but yeah there are a lot of women who love wealthy and ugly, or old fart and rich as hell.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

You're an idiot parroting idiotic cliches like that one.
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No it's true though.

I'm NOT saying all women are like this HOWEVER in the scenario firebunny described.

that's what tends to be the scenario. Call it the anna nicole smith syndrome.

I think within heterosexual pairings...it's rare for a woman to be interested in a guy and get friend zoned.

In the scenarios where this happens, the guy ALWAYS leads the female on by acting in nonplatonic ways...e.g- flirting or even down right having sex with them. They just don't want a relationship..so they will call this girl a friend.

men and or women who try to befriend a highly attractive female which is what I was describing in my first post. In those scenarios, the highly attractive female tends to simply be friendly...some people misconstrue kindness as romantic interest though.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).
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Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).
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Most women will take an average looking guy or even conventionally unattractive guy, with a good heart, ambition who makes the same or more as her ( aka can equally contribute make life easier for her and her future kids)

than

a really good looking guy who makes less with no ambition.

Men tend to be the opposite I've found.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

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From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

Did firebunny just reply as being conventionally attractive? ?

They don't deny they have a crush on you.

So that in itself is admission of their crush right?

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Dude, stop talking about denial/admission. You don't know a thing about it.

@Chuckcem

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The grass is always greener on the other side. One side will always want what the other has.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

😆

hahaha

women who work at Walmart by the cash register won't look to you huh? 😛 😆
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Lots of these women look to me. I kinda know the signs already. I'm 30 years old by September so I kinda know, from experience.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

Did firebunny just reply as being conventionally attractive? ?

They don't deny they have a crush on you.

So that in itself is admission of their crush right?

Dude, stop talking about denial/admission. You don't know a thing about it.

I am not denying I don't know anything about it
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Then shut the hell up.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.
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I think you are referring to insecure women.....when you say "average" women

but even those women put more weight on how successful a man is than what he looks like.

also from my experience, those girls tend to think average guys are hot because they are really invested in the media....which is also why they are insecure in the first place.

They read magazines and watch a lot of commercials, that constantly convey how they "should look" when in reality no one actually looks that way in real life.

They also watch a lot movies in which they don't look like the leading girl who ends up with the average looking guy...

so then they aspire to get any guy ( regardless of looks espeically).....because they believe that it will somehow validate their lives.

Families, friends, and other social institutions also reinforce this message.

It's no bueno.

@MyStarsShine

9 Years25,000+ Posts

It saves one having to put a bag over the head when going out if you are attractive

Posted by Chuckcem
The grass is always greener on the other side. One side will always want what the other has.

I'm asking what the (perceived or objective) benefits of either side are.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

I think you are referring to insecure women.....when you say "average" women

but even those women put more weight on how successful a man is than what he looks like.

also from my experience, those girls tend to think average guys are hot because they are really invested in the media....which is also why they are insecure in the first place.

They read magazines and watch a lot of commercials, that constantly convey how they "should look" when in reality no one actually looks that way in real life.

They also watch a lot movies in which they don't look like the leading girl who ends up with the average looking guy...

so then they aspire to get any guy ( regardless of looks espeically).....because they believe that it will somehow validate their lives.

Families, friends, and other social institutions also reinforce this message.

It's no bueno.

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You tend to generalize women too much. There are women who are into "cute" guys... but these cute guys have to be smart, wealthy or at least ambitious. I mean, who wouldn't want a guy like that? Women who are scared?

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getting free stuff

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being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Most women will take an average looking guy or even conventionally unattractive guy, with a good heart, ambition who makes the same or more as her ( aka can equally contribute make life easier for her and her future kids)

than

a really good looking guy who makes less with no ambition.

Men tend to be the opposite I've found.

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there's a topic on here recently, where a guy (libra and his wife, a cancer) and he has NO job, and he takes care of her, and she is the one supporting her.

what do you think of that scenerio?

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

😆

hahaha

women who work at Walmart by the cash register won't look to you huh? 😛 😆

Lots of these women look to me. I kinda know the signs already. I'm 30 years old by September so I kinda know, from experience.
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you are single, are women on dxp, the single ladies looking to hook up with you?

cause you are a bachelor with good prospects, a lawyer with already finished degree i think.

are women private messaging you to get to know you and fly out to Philiphines to live with you and hopefully marry you and have children?

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

I think you are referring to insecure women.....when you say "average" women

but even those women put more weight on how successful a man is than what he looks like.

also from my experience, those girls tend to think average guys are hot because they are really invested in the media....which is also why they are insecure in the first place.

They read magazines and watch a lot of commercials, that constantly convey how they "should look" when in reality no one actually looks that way in real life.

They also watch a lot movies in which they don't look like the leading girl who ends up with the average looking guy...

so then they aspire to get any guy ( regardless of looks espeically).....because they believe that it will somehow validate their lives.

Families, friends, and other social institutions also reinforce this message.

It's no bueno.

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hmm sounds like someone rich and powerful programmed these young teens, 20 something young women to watch these,and influence them...that YES..i must have them!! becuase it's what the media and my peers want. I need to be liked and loved and accepted and this is the only way i can do it.

of course it's subconscous....it has to be..

cause no one in their right mind would say it out loud and actualy see it. O_O

Posted by MyStarsShine
It saves one having to put a bag over the head when going out if you are attractive

with surgery and modern day technology..

an ugly face can be beautiful. and make up too!!

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.
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it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Most women will take an average looking guy or even conventionally unattractive guy, with a good heart, ambition who makes the same or more as her ( aka can equally contribute make life easier for her and her future kids)

than

a really good looking guy who makes less with no ambition.

Men tend to be the opposite I've found.

there's a topic on here recently, where a guy (libra and his wife, a cancer) and he has NO job, and he takes care of her, and she is the one supporting her.

what do you think of that scenerio?
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reminds me of a another scenario i know with a libra and cancer couple

the woman (libra) my former friend had always wanted to date and marry someone who would become a stay at home dad

not because she was progressive or doesn't care about money ( as she would advertise)

but because she is deeply insecure and ultimately would only feel comfortable in a relationship where she harnessed control ( as the breadwinner)

the guy she's marrying only now has a job because of her dad who hooked him up with one.

they met on a dating site....i remember her technique was to go out dates with the least attractive/nerdy looking guys...because they by default would try harder and offer more security.

they are marrying this summer.

Posted by PVJamz
Women tend to date down. Average women will be drawn to men who they feel are in their category or a rung below. Very attractive women ignore average men unless he has something more to offer in terms of money, power, or status. You think Jay-z could have ever bagged Beyonce with that ugg mug with out money and power. Lol.

😆

he bought her, her very own private jet plane....woooooo! 😄

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but Beyonce is beautiful though.....and sexy.

lots of talented women out there, like her, but she's especially sexy and beautiful.

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being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Most women will take an average looking guy or even conventionally unattractive guy, with a good heart, ambition who makes the same or more as her ( aka can equally contribute make life easier for her and her future kids)

than

a really good looking guy who makes less with no ambition.

Men tend to be the opposite I've found.

there's a topic on here recently, where a guy (libra and his wife, a cancer) and he has NO job, and he takes care of her, and she is the one supporting her.

what do you think of that scenerio?

reminds me of a another scenario i know with a libra and cancer couple

the woman (libra) my former friend had always wanted to date and marry someone who would become a stay at home dad

not because she was progressive or doesn't care about money ( as she would advertise)

but because she is deeply insecure and ultimately would only feel comfortable in a relationship where she harnessed control ( as the breadwinner)

the guy she's marrying only now has a job because of her dad who hooked him up with one.

they met on a dating site....i remember her technique was to go out dates with the least attractive/nerdy looking guys...because they by default would try harder and offer more security.

they are marrying this summer.

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aw that's cool. alot of powerful, assertive, women need/want that type of man though.

she sounds like she needs to control. so she is happier that way..

ohh he got a job from her father's influence.

so therefore, more in control. lol

and the guy doesn't mind at all, as long as she is loyal to him.

loyality will get you anywhere, no matter the dynamic.

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vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Most women will take an average looking guy or even conventionally unattractive guy, with a good heart, ambition who makes the same or more as her ( aka can equally contribute make life easier for her and her future kids)

than

a really good looking guy who makes less with no ambition.

Men tend to be the opposite I've found.

there's a topic on here recently, where a guy (libra and his wife, a cancer) and he has NO job, and he takes care of her, and she is the one supporting her.

what do you think of that scenerio?

reminds me of a another scenario i know with a libra and cancer couple

the woman (libra) my former friend had always wanted to date and marry someone who would become a stay at home dad

not because she was progressive or doesn't care about money ( as she would advertise)

but because she is deeply insecure and ultimately would only feel comfortable in a relationship where she harnessed control ( as the breadwinner)

the guy she's marrying only now has a job because of her dad who hooked him up with one.

they met on a dating site....i remember her technique was to go out dates with the least attractive/nerdy looking guys...because they by default would try harder and offer more security.

they are marrying this summer.

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aw that's cool. alot of powerful, assertive, women need/want that type of man though.

she sounds like she needs to control. so she is happier that way..

ohh he got a job from her father's influence.

so therefore, more in control. lol

and the guy doesn't mind at all, as long as she is loyal to him.

loyality will get you anywhere, no matter the dynamic.

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Women tend to date down. Average women will be drawn to men who they feel are in their category or a rung below. Very attractive women ignore average men unless he has something more to offer in terms of money, power, or status. You think Jay-z could have ever bagged Beyonce with that ugg mug with out money and power. Lol.

😆

he bought her, her very own private jet plane....woooooo! 😄

Exactly lol. I mean she has her own money, but maybe his is longer.

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even if you have alot of your own money, it's damned lonely not to share it with someone you love...

i bet she loves that ugly mug of his. lol

i mean that in a good way..the ugly mug of his. 😛 😆

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As to the original question, everyone knows the benefits of being conventionally attractive. But lets play devil's advocate here and talk of about the benefits of being conventionally unattractive.

-Unattractive and average people blend into the crowd, their a better choice for any covert operations, such as assassins, spies, con men,etc

-Unattractive people are more approachable and relatable, it's easy to cheer their efforts and root for them as the underdog. There is no resentment when they succeed as it is assumed that they earned it

-They often make better mates, since they take the time to develop other aspects of themself, because they know that face is not going to get them by. Thus, they are better conversationalist, often more educated, sometimes more in shape, more resourceful, more gregarious, and all around more well rounded.

I hate to say it, but i will...

there's alot of unattractive peeps who make lousy partners too. Fair is fair. 😛

but i like the rest of your analysis.

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As to the original question, everyone knows the benefits of being conventionally attractive. But lets play devil's advocate here and talk of about the benefits of being conventionally unattractive.

Sorry to break it to you but the original questions were two. No need to play devil's advocate, because I specifically asked what were the benefits of being unattractive as well.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

😆

hahaha

women who work at Walmart by the cash register won't look to you huh? 😛 😆

Lots of these women look to me. I kinda know the signs already. I'm 30 years old by September so I kinda know, from experience.

you are single, are women on dxp, the single ladies looking to hook up with you?

cause you are a bachelor with good prospects, a lawyer with already finished degree i think.

are women private messaging you to get to know you and fly out to Philiphines to live with you and hopefully marry you and have children?

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Yes

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As to the original question, everyone knows the benefits of being conventionally attractive. But lets play devil's advocate here and talk of about the benefits of being conventionally unattractive.

Sorry to break it to you but the original questions were two. No need to play devil's advocate, because I specifically asked what were the benefits of being unattainable as well.

Yeah. Devil's advocate was the wrong word. I stand corrected. I was just rooting for team ugly. I got overly excited.

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I know. I can predict how people here act too well

I was sure that the majority of people, especially the ones who think of themselves as humble, will readily root for team ugly. And that's the reason I included the second question

The deluded narcissists would chime in once the money vs looks debate ensues. Which will ultimately get me a fat postcount

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

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Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.

@Lilianni

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.
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Probably out of respect and power. Like they see you're getting somewhere with your life now and so it seems like you're "happy"

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Most women will take an average looking guy or even conventionally unattractive guy, with a good heart, ambition who makes the same or more as her ( aka can equally contribute make life easier for her and her future kids)

than

a really good looking guy who makes less with no ambition.

Men tend to be the opposite I've found.

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The way I see it it's an age thing.

Most women between 18 and their late 20s will take the good looking bad ass, no matter how much money he makes (sure, if he makes money, then even better) as long as she doesn't think about getting too serious. Once she is more serious and thinks about marriage then security is more valuable to her, especially knowing that a good looking guy will look after other pretty girls because he might get bored after a couple of years in a relationship with the same woman.

I think I have almost never met a woman in her 20s who has not been like that, unless she married early for some reason.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.
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Funny? It's predictable and should make you think about your real value. You are a walking life insurance lol

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As to the original question, everyone knows the benefits of being conventionally attractive. But lets play devil's advocate here and talk of about the benefits of being conventionally unattractive.

Sorry to break it to you but the original questions were two. No need to play devil's advocate, because I specifically asked what were the benefits of being unattainable as well.

Yeah. Devil's advocate was the wrong word. I stand corrected. I was just rooting for team ugly. I got overly excited.

I know. I can predict how people here act too well

I was sure that the majority of people, especially the ones who think of themselves as humble, will readily root for team ugly. And that's the reason I included the second question

The deluded narcissists would chime in once the money vs looks debate ensues. Which will ultimately get me a fat postcount

But I'm not that humble. I'm just rooting for my fellow men and women on team ugly. Point taken though.
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Wondering when the "beauty is subjective" guys will show up

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.

Funny? It's predictable and should make you think about your real value. You are a walking life insurance lol

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Women have been contacting me even before passing the bar.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.

Funny? It's predictable and should make you think about your real value. You are a walking life insurance lol

Women have been contacting me even before passing the bar.
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Regarding the post I quoted it seemed like they were more "excited" since you passed ^^

I don't get why rich guys feel excited about getting girls when they know it's because of their money? They will get screwed sooner or later anyway. I would definately prefere to be broken and good looking while having sex with hot women, who cheat on their rich bf.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.

Funny? It's predictable and should make you think about your real value. You are a walking life insurance lol

Women have been contacting me even before passing the bar.

Regarding the post I quoted it seemed like they were more "excited" since you passed ^^

I don't get why rich guys feel excited about getting girls when they know it's because of their money? They will get screwed sooner or later anyway. I would definately prefere to be broken and good looking while having sex with hot women, who cheat on their rich bf.

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I prefer to have enough money for my wants and needs and a little more... and a girl of my dreams. I think I found her. Just not sure. If she's the one, am I ready for a long-distance relationship? Damn this is hard. But distance aside, I think she's perfect. @_@

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Benefits of being conventionally attractive.

1. All sorts of luck with financial resources that others may have to work hard for.

2. Confidence.

3. Optimism.

Benefits of being conventionally unattractive.

1. More inclined to have stable, reliable friendships.

2. Taken more seriously in the workplace.

3. More likely to be approached by great, honest, faithful men (contrary to popular beliefs, the superficial, shallow, cheating losers approach the beautiful ones). Most nice guys feel threatened or would rarely approach a real beautiful woman.

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.

Funny? It's predictable and should make you think about your real value. You are a walking life insurance lol

Women have been contacting me even before passing the bar.

Regarding the post I quoted it seemed like they were more "excited" since you passed ^^

I don't get why rich guys feel excited about getting girls when they know it's because of their money? They will get screwed sooner or later anyway. I would definately prefere to be broken and good looking while having sex with hot women, who cheat on their rich bf.

I prefer to have enough money for my wants and needs and a little more... and a girl of my dreams. I think I found her. Just not sure. If she's the one, am I ready for a long-distance relationship? Damn this is hard. But distance aside, I think she's perfect. @_@
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Dude, if you ever go to Europe go to Germany, you can get hookers there for 20€-30€ and they are clean. So much for your wants and needs. ^^

On a serious note: The problem with career/rich guys who have sacrificed their lives for their careers is that they are the reason for gold diggers and It girls. When they were younger they got rejected by girls, so they were like "once I get older, I will make money and get back at all those bitches". What they don't realize is, that they will fall in love with a gold digger and suffer. That's why all those MGTOW morons won't ever live the life they dream about. They hate women and want revanche by making money in order to buy sex . They create what they hate the most lol

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.

Funny? It's predictable and should make you think about your real value. You are a walking life insurance lol

Women have been contacting me even before passing the bar.

Regarding the post I quoted it seemed like they were more "excited" since you passed ^^

I don't get why rich guys feel excited about getting girls when they know it's because of their money? They will get screwed sooner or later anyway. I would definately prefere to be broken and good looking while having sex with hot women, who cheat on their rich bf.

I prefer to have enough money for my wants and needs and a little more... and a girl of my dreams. I think I found her. Just not sure. If she's the one, am I ready for a long-distance relationship? Damn this is hard. But distance aside, I think she's perfect. @_@

Dude, if you ever go to Europe go to Germany, you can get hookers there for 20€-30€ and they are clean. So much for your wants and needs. ^^

On a serious note: The problem with career/rich guys who have sacrificed their lives for their careers is that they are the reason for gold diggers and It girls. When they were younger they got rejected by girls, so they were like "once I get older, I will make money and get back at all those bitches". What they don't realize is, that they will fall in love with a gold digger and suffer. That's why all those MGTOW morons won't ever live the life they dream about. They hate women and want revanche by making money in order to buy sex . They create what they hate the most lol
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Not the case with me. I didnt study hard for the money nor for girls. And there were plenty of girls who wanted to hook up on me even before I became a lawyer.

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getting free stuff

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being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

Yes, basically. Many of my female friends turn out to have a crush on me. While I maintain platonic relationships with them, they're expecting more. I consider them as 'mere' friends and I can get them to do things I want them to. But in return, I could sense that they want something more. *Shrugs*

I find this hard to believe.

looks don't attract girls.

money and power does.

Yes, but some women look for the *complete package.* I've seen this over and over again. And I'm talking about women who are already successful (i.e., those with stellar academic achievements and high-paying jobs).

Women care more about security than looks

especially the smart women you just alluded too.

Looks fade and unlike men, we don't have the privilege nor desire to simply trade the one we married in for a newer model after awhile.

That is unless you are a cougar...but those are rare.

From my experience... attractive women don't care about the looks. just as long as the guy is smart and wealthy, he's "ideal." for average women, they care more about looks than their attractive counterparts... so I tend to attract more average women than attractive ones... but now that I'm already a lawyer, more attractive women are messaging me on FB.

it might be....subconsiously you're turning down the average ladies and going for more attractive..lol

this topic is kind of funny. 😛

Im looking for the complete package. But yes, more women have contacted me since I passed the Bar. It's funny.

Funny? It's predictable and should make you think about your real value. You are a walking life insurance lol

Women have been contacting me even before passing the bar.

Regarding the post I quoted it seemed like they were more "excited" since you passed ^^

I don't get why rich guys feel excited about getting girls when they know it's because of their money? They will get screwed sooner or later anyway. I would definately prefere to be broken and good looking while having sex with hot women, who cheat on their rich bf.

I prefer to have enough money for my wants and needs and a little more... and a girl of my dreams. I think I found her. Just not sure. If she's the one, am I ready for a long-distance relationship? Damn this is hard. But distance aside, I think she's perfect. @_@

Dude, if you ever go to Europe go to Germany, you can get hookers there for 20€-30€ and they are clean. So much for your wants and needs. ^^

On a serious note: The problem with career/rich guys who have sacrificed their lives for their careers is that they are the reason for gold diggers and It girls. When they were younger they got rejected by girls, so they were like "once I get older, I will make money and get back at all those bitches". What they don't realize is, that they will fall in love with a gold digger and suffer. That's why all those MGTOW morons won't ever live the life they dream about. They hate women and want revanche by making money in order to buy sex . They create what they hate the most lol

Not the case with me. I didnt study hard for the money nor for girls. And there were plenty of girls who wanted to hook up on me even before I became a lawyer.
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then why didn't you?

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getting free stuff

vs

being able to have and maintain more platonic relationships.

i know a lot of extremely attractive friends of mine who only have a few friends, not by choice.

Most of the friendships they formed with people were short lived because the people they tried to befriend were actually interested in dating them from the very beginning.

can't say I don't agree with this. especially the getting free stuff.

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Drop the act tbh

I asked about the pros of being attractive and the pros of being in unattractive.

Almost everyone is talking about the cons of being attractive