Can a cap moon forgive?

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If yes, who has hurt you in the past and if so, what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? Would time pass by help you? If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really from them or do you what them to prove how sorry they are ?? Have have people done in the past to you that make you cut them off your life for good? Do you hate such person? Thank you
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If yes, who has hurt you in the past and if so, what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? Would time pass by help you? If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really from them or do you what them to prove how sorry they are ?? Have have people done in the past to you that make you cut them off your life for good? Do you hate such person? Thank you
Yes I do forgive but I never ever forget.It all depends on how close the person is and what did they do to hurt me. But sometimes even if I have forgiven you are out of my life for good I will cut you off completely but its mostly in case of acquaintances/not so close friends. It happened many times and I had cut them off forever. At the same time I have forgiven my bf of three years who did something which hurt me so badly that I felt almost dead inside but I have forgiven him because I love him very deeply and I can't imagine my life without him but the trust was broken. Again it depends on the situation I will never forgive the one who had cheated on me not even once. There is no place for cheaters in my life no matter how close he is.
1) what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? would time pass by help you? I didn't give him any chance to say anything I iced him out completely I blocked him on cell phone, fb etc., for sometime but eventually my love pulled me back to him and I forgave him but still it hurts whenever I think about it.
2) If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really want from them or do you want them to prove how sorry they are? When I say I want to be alone then I really want you to leave me alone. after the initial alone time(which depends on what you did) yes I want you to prove how sorry you are. If you have broken my trust it will take 100 times more efforts to get my trust back. So never break my trust because it will never be the same again.
3) Do you hate such person? In case of not so close friends I had cut them off compleately but I don't hate anyone I always want them to live a happy life. its just that they will never be the part of my life again.

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If yes, who has hurt you in the past and if so, what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? Would time pass by help you? If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really from them or do you what them to prove how sorry they are ?? Have have people done in the past to you that make you cut them off your life for good? Do you hate such person? Thank you
I hold grudges. For a LONG time. If they hurt me in the past, I'd probably never fully trust again. If I tell you I want to be left alone, then by golly, leave me the hell alone. That means I don't want anything to do with you. If you try to "prove" how sorry you are, then it's just going to irritate me and I'll pull away further. See, I'd question how sorry you really were. Because if you really loved me, you wouldn't have done that to me in the first place and I'd wonder if you're just sorry you got caught. Yes, there are people in the past I've cut off for good. I don't hate them, I'd probably eventually even be nice to them, but when I'm done, I'm done.

Hope that answered all your questions.
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If yes, who has hurt you in the past and if so, what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? Would time pass by help you? If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really from them or do you what them to prove how sorry they are ?? Have have people done in the past to you that make you cut them off your life for good? Do you hate such person? Thank you
I hold grudges. For a LONG time. If they hurt me in the past, I'd probably never fully trust again. If I tell you I want to be left alone, then by golly, leave me the hell alone. That means I don't want anything to do with you. If you try to "prove" how sorry you are, then it's just going to irritate me and I'll pull away further. See, I'd question how sorry you really were. Because if you really loved me, you wouldn't have done that to me in the first place and I'd wonder if you're just sorry you got caught. Yes, there are people in the past I've cut off for good. I don't hate them, I'd probably eventually even be nice to them, but when I'm done, I'm done.

Hope that answered all your questions.
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It's not cheating though... What's if it's just true words that needed to be said? Like issues about urself that needed to be laid out in the open?
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If you want another chance then don't just say sorry BE sorry. Don't push me hard to forgive you because it won't work. just back your sorry with your actions and I will forgive you in my own time. Your words should match your actions.

Thank you. It's not really a cheating scenario.. Moree of like the blunt truth he needed to hear about himself from me... hurtful words but not cheating.. I don't noe if that counts as braking trust or not.. I don't think so.... so, by action, what did you mean? would a sincere letter or a thought out gift work?....
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If yes, who has hurt you in the past and if so, what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? Would time pass by help you? If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really from them or do you what them to prove how sorry they are ?? Have have people done in the past to you that make you cut them off your life for good? Do you hate such person? Thank you
I hold grudges. For a LONG time. If they hurt me in the past, I'd probably never fully trust again. If I tell you I want to be left alone, then by golly, leave me the hell alone. That means I don't want anything to do with you. If you try to "prove" how sorry you are, then it's just going to irritate me and I'll pull away further. See, I'd question how sorry you really were. Because if you really loved me, you wouldn't have done that to me in the first place and I'd wonder if you're just sorry you got caught. Yes, there are people in the past I've cut off for good. I don't hate them, I'd probably eventually even be nice to them, but when I'm done, I'm done.

Hope that answered all your questions.

It's not cheating though... What's if it's just true words that needed to be said? Like issues about urself that needed to be laid out in the open?
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I didn't reply as if it were cheating. Regardless of what you did, if you hurt me bad enough that I told you to leave me alone, then I stand by what I wrote.

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If yes, who has hurt you in the past and if so, what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? Would time pass by help you? If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really from them or do you what them to prove how sorry they are ?? Have have people done in the past to you that make you cut them off your life for good? Do you hate such person? Thank you
I hold grudges. For a LONG time. If they hurt me in the past, I'd probably never fully trust again. If I tell you I want to be left alone, then by golly, leave me the hell alone. That means I don't want anything to do with you. If you try to "prove" how sorry you are, then it's just going to irritate me and I'll pull away further. See, I'd question how sorry you really were. Because if you really loved me, you wouldn't have done that to me in the first place and I'd wonder if you're just sorry you got caught. Yes, there are people in the past I've cut off for good. I don't hate them, I'd probably eventually even be nice to them, but when I'm done, I'm done.

Hope that answered all your questions.

It's not cheating though... What's if it's just true words that needed to be said? Like issues about urself that needed to be laid out in the open?
I didn't reply as if it were cheating. Regardless of what you did, if you hurt me bad enough that I told you to leave me alone, then I stand by what I wrote.

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If you really said what needed to be said, then tried to prove you were sorry for saying it, I'd blow your apology off as you were just sorry that I got mad. You're not really sorry for saying it if you felt like it needed to be said. So, your apology means nothing. See what I'm getting at?
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Thank you. It's not really a cheating scenario.. Moree of like the blunt truth he needed to hear about himself from me... hurtful words but not cheating.. I don't noe if that counts as braking trust or not.. I don't think so.... so, by action, what did you mean? would a sincere letter or a thought out gift work?....
No that doesn't count as breaking trust 🙂 I like to hear bitter truth rather than a sweet lie. I didn't know the scenario so by actions I meant that you shouldn't be repeating the same thing again. And yeah a sincere letter would work for me.
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Thank you everyone... I don't noe if he will forgive me or if not. He says he doesn't hate me. There were some occasions where he said leave me alone but that didn't last for long... This time, it lasted for a while now.. He cud have blocked me off his cell number but he didn't... They were just blunt truth and hurtful truth.. He has issues and he needed to hear them from me... there's more to the story.... basically he's running even more coz we have a kid together now but he's running. The truth were the real issues I wanted him to fix. I want him to own him to his responsibilities and fix himself as a person.. He has so many .. It hurts him most Coz I told him I said I wanted him happy so I guess hearing those things from me were very hard to handle for him.... according to him i disrespected him so much... I am doing it for the baby's sake and for mine.. I couldn't just sit around and watch him throwing his life away any longer... However, I have given up on him now... On wanting forgiveness for saying those things or wanting him back in my life... If he doesn't wanna be part of any of it then I'm not going to make it happen anymore... if one day, his issues r fixed then that's when things will work out for all of us... If not, it's best we r kept completely seperate.... Thank you everyone ...
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OP I think you should just relax and give him some time. Telling blunt truth about him isn't a deal breaker at all he will return when he is ready. Good Luck

Do u think so?, I noe those were hurtful but compared to what he has done to me is probably nothing. I never lied or betrayed him... oh well... he may or may not return but I won't b hoping for it anymore.. It hurts he just wanna cut me off his life lyk that esp when I'm holding his child.... But thank u for ur hopefully words 🙂
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No. I would see people who needed to be forgiven by me as weak and useless. I like strong people with good character to be in my life.

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Seriously. Someone would have to do something pretty bad in the first place where it would get to the point where the offense would require my forgiveness.

Perhaps my Cap Mercury makes my response more harsh than intended. lol
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No. I would see people who needed to be forgiven by me as weak and useless. I like strong people with good character to be in my life.

Wow ok. lol
Seriously. Someone would have to do something pretty bad in the first place where it would get to the point where the offense would require my forgiveness.

Perhaps my Cap Mercury makes my response more harsh than intended. lol
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It's ok I have Aqua moon. I can take your harshness lol.
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Thank you everyone... I don't noe if he will forgive me or if not. He says he doesn't hate me. There were some occasions where he said leave me alone but that didn't last for long... This time, it lasted for a while now.. He cud have blocked me off his cell number but he didn't... They were just blunt truth and hurtful truth.. He has issues and he needed to hear them from me... there's more to the story.... basically he's running even more coz we have a kid together now but he's running. The truth were the real issues I wanted him to fix. I want him to own him to his responsibilities and fix himself as a person.. He has so many .. It hurts him most Coz I told him I said I wanted him happy so I guess hearing those things from me were very hard to handle for him.... according to him i disrespected him so much... I am doing it for the baby's sake and for mine.. I couldn't just sit around and watch him throwing his life away any longer... However, I have given up on him now... On wanting forgiveness for saying those things or wanting him back in my life... If he doesn't wanna be part of any of it then I'm not going to make it happen anymore... if one day, his issues r fixed then that's when things will work out for all of us... If not, it's best we r kept completely seperate.... Thank you everyone ...
Why have a baby with someone who's "irresponsible" and has issues?

If he's so messed up you had to tell him to fix himself and if he's "throwing his life away", then why take the risk on having a baby with him?



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I also feel like it's the nagging and complaining that he's running away from.

You haven't been secure and happy with him and he can sense that. Now you're adding more pressure and asking for more from him...so he runs.

Maybe watch the way you present your wants and needs to him and he won't feel so trapped.

Oh well he can bet I'm asking nothing from him now. He can run as far as He likes.. I feel like he will b the one with regrets not me 🙂 and yes, the choice of having a baby with him is complicated but I'm glad I did that.. he may not be in the picture at all and that's his choice.. his right as a father will b less and less the longer he takes to put his life back together and own his responsibilities. As off now. I'm happier as a single mum 🙂
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I don't nag and didn't nag him much at all. Just the last fight I did through a message. If he can't take a bit of truth then I rather not have him around. I given him time to come around n didn't force anything yet he was still acting lyk he has no baby coming on the way . I cudnt deal with it so I burst.. it takes two to tango but it's ok. Things happen for a reason.. If he's not ready.. No nagging or nagging will make him ready.. I believe he has to come to his own senses...
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We forgive. Forgiveness doesn't entail a reunion.
That's not how it works at all.

Intentional harm or disregard towards me calls for this situation to occur.
I noticed all the other signs - sun, moon, etc.outside of Cap moon never understand the fact you can let go of someone without anger.
To cut off and move on calls for indifference not any type of passion- positive or negative.
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Aries, Cap moon here. Definitely. In fact, I don't see forgiveness as a big deal. My ex (Capricorn Sun, btw) was extremely manipulative, put me through emotional abuse, and also cheated on me. She knew how to play mind games.. It would be stupid for me to put myself in a similar position again, but everyone is capable of change, and even if I could never go back to her, I've forgiven. I can forgive anyone, really.
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We forgive. Forgiveness doesn't entail a reunion.
That's not how it works at all.

Intentional harm or disregard towards me calls for this situation to occur.
I noticed all the other signs - sun, moon, etc.outside of Cap moon never understand the fact you can let go of someone without anger.
To cut off and move on calls for indifference not any type of passion- positive or negative.
Well put.
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About tough love that has to be given- I don't even get angry about that because I'm open to criticism if I think that person truly knows what he says. But if someone do something on purpose to hurt me like for example cheat on me, use me for their purposes... I not only hold grudges for a very long time, but I will attack you when you will be on your weakest and you will think that I forgot what you did ages ago (or even forget that you did that at all), that's when I will get you for all your nasty things. Karma's a bitch and so am I.
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If yes, who has hurt you in the past and if so, what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? Would time pass by help you? If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really from them or do you what them to prove how sorry they are ?? Have have people done in the past to you that make you cut them off your life for good? Do you hate such person? Thank you
Yes I do forgive but I never ever forget.It all depends on how close the person is and what did they do to hurt me. But sometimes even if I have forgiven you are out of my life for good I will cut you off completely but its mostly in case of acquaintances/not so close friends. It happened many times and I had cut them off forever. At the same time I have forgiven my bf of three years who did something which hurt me so badly that I felt almost dead inside but I have forgiven him because I love him very deeply and I can't imagine my life without him but the trust was broken. Again it depends on the situation I will never forgive the one who had cheated on me not even once. There is no place for cheaters in my life no matter how close he is.
1) what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? would time pass by help you? I didn't give him any chance to say anything I iced him out completely I blocked him on cell phone, fb etc., for sometime but eventually my love pulled me back to him and I forgave him but still it hurts whenever I think about it.
2) If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really want from them or do you want them to prove how sorry they are? When I say I want to be alone then I really want you to leave me alone. after the initial alone time(which depends on what you did) yes I want you to prove how sorry you are. If you have broken my trust it will take 100 times more efforts to get my trust back. So never break my trust because it will never be the same again.
3) Do you hate such person? In case of not so close friends I had cut them off compleately but I don't hate anyone I always want them to live a happy life. its just that they will never be the part of my life again.

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If I were him I would have begin to correct myself (silently) after hearing those blunt truths. However each individual is different.

Going back to this comment 🙂 thank you you were so right about this !!! I was forgiven and he did fix himself silently and came back when he was ready /) you are the best
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Glad to hear that 🙂
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If yes, who has hurt you in the past and if so, what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? Would time pass by help you? If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really from them or do you what them to prove how sorry they are ?? Have have people done in the past to you that make you cut them off your life for good? Do you hate such person? Thank you
Yes I do forgive but I never ever forget.It all depends on how close the person is and what did they do to hurt me. But sometimes even if I have forgiven you are out of my life for good I will cut you off completely but its mostly in case of acquaintances/not so close friends. It happened many times and I had cut them off forever. At the same time I have forgiven my bf of three years who did something which hurt me so badly that I felt almost dead inside but I have forgiven him because I love him very deeply and I can't imagine my life without him but the trust was broken. Again it depends on the situation I will never forgive the one who had cheated on me not even once. There is no place for cheaters in my life no matter how close he is.
1) what did they do or say to get you to give them another chance? would time pass by help you? I didn't give him any chance to say anything I iced him out completely I blocked him on cell phone, fb etc., for sometime but eventually my love pulled me back to him and I forgave him but still it hurts whenever I think about it.
2) If you tell them you want to be left alone, is that what you really want from them or do you want them to prove how sorry they are? When I say I want to be alone then I really want you to leave me alone. after the initial alone time(which depends on what you did) yes I want you to prove how sorry you are. If you have broken my trust it will take 100 times more efforts to get my trust back. So never break my trust because it will never be the same again.
3) Do you hate such person? In case of not so close friends I had cut them off compleately but I don't hate anyone I always want them to live a happy life. its just that they will never be the part of my life again.
What she said! ^
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Lol I just answered her questions :-P
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I had my heart trampled on. Being lied to, cheated on, stolen from, then divorced is the hardest things I've ever dealt with but I loved her and she is happy now. I've forgiven her two years later and wish her nothing but the best. Deep down she is a kind hearted person.

I have been betrayed by my best friend who didn't respect my privacy. 6 months later I let go on we had a talk. Things aren't back to what they were but we're good.

A good friend of mine used me in a way I'm not willing to go into detail about. She is a selfish child. This was a year ago. I haven't moved on and prefer to stay away from her with our mutual friend.

For me it's about the person. I can forgive for a mistake if they're a good person. If not, I'll hold onto it for much longer than I probably should.