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Ok so I know this moon tends to be secretive. So I don't push him to tell me anything... Lately though I noticed that he's showing me his surroundings more. When he speaks to people he doesn't say let me call you back he lets me hear and see. Then of course hell close up again and repeat. Is be worried of how I'll view him? I like it cause I rather see than be told and I don't need to ask I just observe and I think he likes it that way. He'll also say things that I wasn't aware of and I won't respond but he does look at my expression which I normally give a blank one cause I know he's trying to search my soul (like the typical Scorpio moon does). So....

How long do y'all take to open up? Or is this how you open up? The confusion may be due to his Aquarius Mars too with not wanting me to know him too much too soon?
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Yeah us Scoprio moons take out sweet time, and then go back and forth a bit, and sometimes we applaud ourselves for opening up until someone comes and tell us "you're not really opening up...saying my day was good is not really opening up."
I hate it when I think I'm being open enough- only to have the person I'm letting in tell me how closed I am.

Surprises me every time. Guess we can be a little dense about how "stern" we seem to be.
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I tend to share more if I feel you are okay with what is known presently about me.

This person, just like my world, is already dear to me but It depends on them.

I look at everything about them too and who they really

are inside. If you come from center and I am comfortable

with who you are then you will be that much closer..

more sacred and in my world, the place where

I wanted you soooo badly all along.
Hmm thanks for that. Starting to realize if I sit back and just relax that he'll do things in due time now.
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I tend to share more if I feel you are okay with what is known presently about me.

This person, just like my world, is already dear to me but It depends on them.

I look at everything about them too and who they really

are inside. If you come from center and I am comfortable

with who you are then you will be that much closer..

more sacred and in my world, the place where

I wanted you soooo badly all along.
Hmm thanks for that. Starting to realize if I sit back and just relax that he'll do things in due time now.
Yeah it's kind like them (us) feelig you out

And I think it's okay if you ask for more too (it lets us see you really dont mind what we are about)its just ...

being ok and patient with what is already known --shown-- is nice and

helps. We aren't going anywhere if you don't want us to :]
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Ok so I know this moon tends to be secretive. So I don't push him to tell me anything... Lately though I noticed that he's showing me his surroundings more. When he speaks to people he doesn't say let me call you back he lets me hear and see. Then of course hell close up again and repeat. Is be worried of how I'll view him? I like it cause I rather see than be told and I don't need to ask I just observe and I think he likes it that way. He'll also say things that I wasn't aware of and I won't respond but he does look at my expression which I normally give a blank one cause I know he's trying to search my soul (like the typical Scorpio moon does). So....

How long do y'all take to open up? Or is this how you open up? The confusion may be due to his Aquarius Mars too with not wanting me to know him too much too soon?
Never known them to be secretive. They tend to be braver in telling you stuff straight up about themselves. Frank.
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When I ask he cuts the convo short... But I think he's starting to realize I hate that about him. Like he reads me... Weird
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Yeah us Scoprio moons take out sweet time, and then go back and forth a bit, and sometimes we applaud ourselves for opening up until someone comes and tell us "you're not really opening up...saying my day was good is not really opening up."
I hate it when I think I'm being open enough- only to have the person I'm letting in tell me how closed I am.

Surprises me every time. Guess we can be a little dense about how "stern" we seem to be.
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Haha! This is me all the time! And then when someone says we are not trying hard enough, we get frustrated and angry but let it brew inside us until all hell releases!
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Yeah us Scoprio moons take out sweet time, and then go back and forth a bit, and sometimes we applaud ourselves for opening up until someone comes and tell us "you're not really opening up...saying my day was good is not really opening up."
I hate it when I think I'm being open enough- only to have the person I'm letting in tell me how closed I am.

Surprises me every time. Guess we can be a little dense about how "stern" we seem to be.
Haha! This is me all the time! And then when someone says we are not trying hard enough, we get frustrated and angry but let it brew inside us until all hell releases!
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Lol, shitty no?

When someone tells me I'm not working hard enough, caring enough, etc... It just makes me want to do/care less 😛

I feel as though that is you can't see/feel how much I'm giving at the time, you don't deserve how much I CAN give in the future when I'm the most open and trusting.
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Well it's a bit hard to judge from my own perspective, because I don't know the guy and Cancer Venus can be tricky. I can only make assumptions especially because I don't have much info on you or him.

I'm assuming you're dating, which is good. Cancer Venus tend to be completely different depending on their past. You could get a motherly type of man with lots of compassion, love, loyalty, and stability, or you could get a CiV who has been heart broken many times and is the complete opposite. The water moon and water Venus will always be extremely hard for a fire sun. Expecally since the moon is Scorpio. This makes me assume he's had a rough past, which will deeply affect the CiV and add even more insecurity, though they will be well hidden by the Leo sun and Scorpio moon. Both sighs that are well at hiding true emotions and secrets when they work together.

Lets just say he will never fully open up, which isn't always a bad thing. 2p years from now he wi still be revealing bits of information you had no idea about. This just comes with his type of psyche. You will have to do some extra work however, because the fixed sun an moo, calls for a stubborn person. I would spent less time tying to adjust him to you and focus on adjusting yourself to him. He may have moments where he seems diferent as in angry, depressed, detached, or like he's hiding himself from the world. Just stay calm and ride the waves, then before you know it he will return to his normal self.

Idk if I answered your question, or gave you any insight whatsoever, so if I missed something, went off topic, or didn't quite answer you question feel free to ask

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Ok so I know this moon tends to be secretive. So I don't push him to tell me anything... Lately though I noticed that he's showing me his surroundings more. When he speaks to people he doesn't say let me call you back he lets me hear and see. Then of course hell close up again and repeat. Is be worried of how I'll view him? I like it cause I rather see than be told and I don't need to ask I just observe and I think he likes it that way. He'll also say things that I wasn't aware of and I won't respond but he does look at my expression which I normally give a blank one cause I know he's trying to search my soul (like the typical Scorpio moon does). So....

How long do y'all take to open up? Or is this how you open up? The confusion may be due to his Aquarius Mars too with not wanting me to know him too much too soon?
Never known them to be secretive. They tend to be braver in telling you stuff straight up about themselves. Frank.
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I tend to confuse people. Im jolly so it may seem like im opening up, but I dont really. That takes time and intimacy. It also takes pressure.

I often loved it when my cancer moon would demand me to open up and talk to him. The way a person acts afterwards tells me alot.
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Well it's a bit hard to judge from my own perspective, because I don't know the guy and Cancer Venus can be tricky. I can only make assumptions especially because I don't have much info on you or him.

I'm assuming you're dating, which is good. Cancer Venus tend to be completely different depending on their past. You could get a motherly type of man with lots of compassion, love, loyalty, and stability, or you could get a CiV who has been heart broken many times and is the complete opposite. The water moon and water Venus will always be extremely hard for a fire sun. Expecally since the moon is Scorpio. This makes me assume he's had a rough past, which will deeply affect the CiV and add even more insecurity, though they will be well hidden by the Leo sun and Scorpio moon. Both sighs that are well at hiding true emotions and secrets when they work together.

Lets just say he will never fully open up, which isn't always a bad thing. 2p years from now he wi still be revealing bits of information you had no idea about. This just comes with his type of psyche. You will have to do some extra work however, because the fixed sun an moo, calls for a stubborn person. I would spent less time tying to adjust him to you and focus on adjusting yourself to him. He may have moments where he seems diferent as in angry, depressed, detached, or like he's hiding himself from the world. Just stay calm and ride the waves, then before you know it he will return to his normal self.

Idk if I answered your question, or gave you any insight whatsoever, so if I missed something, went off topic, or didn't quite answer you question feel free to ask

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good advice on the Scorpio moon with extra water.
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Ok so I know this moon tends to be secretive. So I don't push him to tell me anything... Lately though I noticed that he's showing me his surroundings more. When he speaks to people he doesn't say let me call you back he lets me hear and see. Then of course hell close up again and repeat. Is be worried of how I'll view him? I like it cause I rather see than be told and I don't need to ask I just observe and I think he likes it that way. He'll also say things that I wasn't aware of and I won't respond but he does look at my expression which I normally give a blank one cause I know he's trying to search my soul (like the typical Scorpio moon does). So....

How long do y'all take to open up? Or is this how you open up? The confusion may be due to his Aquarius Mars too with not wanting me to know him too much too soon?
You are not comfortable around this guy.
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Why do you feel the need to analyze everything?
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i was thinking that too, that she was overanalyzing and picking apart the person. which is not good.
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@soul are you his twin? Haha I swear you on point.

About adjusting to him... I've learned that now.. To not pry and let him breathe. Yes he does get to the point where I feel he doesn't care about me and get cold. I don't cry about it and complain anymore like I used to and I noticed he does come around (harder and stronger). He never says he loves me or how he's feeling but I feel what he's feeling?! Makes sense?

Yes we are newly dating and I notice he does reveal piece by piece. I don't mention anything about what he shows me Becuase I fear he will close it off and I think that's what he wants for him to show me and me to just take it in.

He is very serious and stoic. His eyes are intense, his demeanor hard. When I asked about his past he shuts down so I don't ask anymore but he just reveals it over time and I'm ok with that. I'm not so forthcoming either. And we all have skeletons right?!

Are they normally cheaters? I realize he needs lots of space... Do I give him more reassurance about how I feel about him? I've noticed he gives me more attention when I do but I want to make sure I'm not letting him know that I've fallen hard. But sometimes I feel he wants to know that? Anymore insight would be great and thank so much!!!
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i guess it's hard for people to just let it go, and let things unfold and just relax.
edit: but she's full of anxiety and fear...

it's probably normal for her if she really really likes someone and doesnt understand why he's not reciprocating.

that's horrible.
I'm used to being possessive and gain after the man and they like it. But I end up wearing the pants. He does not want this and it's intriguing. I'm not used to it and so I need the advice on how to just chill/ what's wrong with that
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Where u the same poster wanting sex from your scorp moon but he was holding back?
Yes lol. Soon as I asked him why he was punishing me he came back full force. I notice when he's hurt or I do something not ok he passive aggressive about it. Or he'll say what it is and then cut something to make me realize talking was not enough!?! If that makes sense. But i now know how to handle that. Its why I come here to help with an issue AS IT ARISES
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Taurus moon can be just as closed off as a scorp moon. If I remember, he sometimes thinks your full of it. You brush over things. All that is related.

Its all on your tab.
You hit the nail on the head and I won't argue with that lol. Yes very closed off... So could this be why when he comes back full force he asks me questions passive aggressively see how i feel or where I'm at with him? The only reason I don't is because I've been forthcoming in other resltionships and they "used me" I want to tell him or good he makes me feel but I don't want him running away. So yes I hold back at times until I realize he needs it. But should I tell him this constantly instead of waiting?
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Taurus moon can be just as closed off as a scorp moon. If I remember, he sometimes thinks your full of it. You brush over things. All that is related.

Its all on your tab.
You hit the nail on the head and I won't argue with that lol. Yes very closed off... So could this be why when he comes back full force he asks me questions passive aggressively see how i feel or where I'm at with him? The only reason I don't is because I've been forthcoming in other resltionships and they "used me" I want to tell him or good he makes me feel but I don't want him running away. So yes I hold back at times until I realize he needs it. But should I tell him this constantly instead of waiting?
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Confidence is key for both of you. It has to be equal. Scorp moon and taurus moon reward 10 fold. They both also withdraw just as quickly.

you guys obviously test each other and know youre being tested. Respond in truth. Do you respond in truth or punishment?
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Taurus moon can be just as closed off as a scorp moon. If I remember, he sometimes thinks your full of it. You brush over things. All that is related.

Its all on your tab.
You hit the nail on the head and I won't argue with that lol. Yes very closed off... So could this be why when he comes back full force he asks me questions passive aggressively see how i feel or where I'm at with him? The only reason I don't is because I've been forthcoming in other resltionships and they "used me" I want to tell him or good he makes me feel but I don't want him running away. So yes I hold back at times until I realize he needs it. But should I tell him this constantly instead of waiting?
Confidence is key for both of you. It has to be equal. Scorp moon and taurus moon reward 10 fold. They both also withdraw just as quickly.

you guys obviously test each other and know youre being tested. Respond in truth. Do you respond in truth or punishment?
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Yes I test and he test back and we know we know we do. Smh. However I get tired and back off... Then he'll come back for me after awhile. This last time... We had a big fall out that he did not come this week as he planned and I was livid and he said "I don't do drama" but then made a spectacle in front of his friends when I was on the phone cause I was mad. I backed off for two days... He came back feeling me out a little then came on extra strong. He never said sorry but his actions showed he was sorry. It's intense. Sometimes I feel too intense like I can't but that's when he'll ease up and come back better. Does this make sense?
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Are you guys in a committed relationship?
No "commitment" per say. However we have spoken about being monogamous. We have agreed not to date other people. He also forced the long distance issue and I was against it but I finally gave in. I don't question him about being skeptical about other women but when I feel the need to bring it up I do... He never says he's not seeing anyone else or he is but what does he do to ease me? He come a little harder with the calls and contacts until he thinks I'm ok (I notice the pattern). And vice versa I give reassurance when he ask (he pretends he's not jealous but let me go to an event and he wants to know every detail if he sees a pic surface with a man and I do the same but try not to act to possessive). HES MINE! Lol in my head that's what I say. But yeah that's us.
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i guess it's hard for people to just let it go, and let things unfold and just relax.
edit: but she's full of anxiety and fear...

it's probably normal for her if she really really likes someone and doesnt understand why he's not reciprocating.

that's horrible.
I'm used to being possessive and gain after the man and they like it. But I end up wearing the pants. He does not want this and it's intriguing. I'm not used to it and so I need the advice on how to just chill/ what's wrong with that
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why are you changing who you are? if thats not how you are naturally?

what is your venus and mars? if you have a water venus and/or water venus it would help his Scorpio moon.

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i guess it's hard for people to just let it go, and let things unfold and just relax.
edit: but she's full of anxiety and fear...

it's probably normal for her if she really really likes someone and doesnt understand why he's not reciprocating.

that's horrible.
I'm used to being possessive and gain after the man and they like it. But I end up wearing the pants. He does not want this and it's intriguing. I'm not used to it and so I need the advice on how to just chill/ what's wrong with that
why are you changing who you are? if thats not how you are naturally?

what is your venus and mars? if you have a water venus and/or water venus it would help his Scorpio moon.

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Aries Venus and Scorpio Mars lol.... However I don't want to wear the pants anymore and this is what I get when I chase so I am trying a different approach. I also not trying to seem desperate cause I am not trust... But I'm really feeling him and I need to find balance.
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or water mars, i mean. it would help. i see you are very earthy. does he have earth himself?? if he does you both can get eachother.

if he's not reciprocating it's probably very black and white.
Him Leo sun
Scorp moon
Cancer Venus
Aquarius Mars


Me Taurus sun
Taurus moon
Aries venus
Scorpio Mars

He is reciprocating. We are doing just fine right now. We test each other though and the pace a little slow... I know why I'm going slow and it's Becuase I've been hurt and Taurus likes forever so if it won't be forever I don't want to hurt myself cause it takes for ever to heal. But I still don't know why he is slow too. Probably the same reason. I'm starting to get him and understand a little. He shows me just enough to get me thinking but never speaks about it and I never ask cause I realize when I ask he shuts down. But.... I had a concern one morning (6am) and he called me to pacify that (at that time of morning and he was asleep). He also spent more time calling me that day and we spoke a lot. I was so shocked that everything I could have asked went out the window. Then he pulled away again and then comes back. That seems to be the pattern. I also let him pull away and give space Becuase of he wants to go... Then I'm not chasing but if he comes back I'm me and I engage. Obviously he likes it if he keeps coming back no?
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Also ask him about committing.
I'm nervous argh!!!!! Lol. I have no problem waiting... I'll Waite little longer... And thanks so much for the insight I really needed it.
Why waste anymore time. See where you stand.

Tell him how u feel about him. Tell him what you want from him.

Get on the same page.
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Something is changing. Before he would play games... To see how I feel. I could see the grin on his face though he try's hard to be serious. He likes the fact that I feel the way I feel about him. He had yet to say I love you though. I need to hear that before I spill my feelings. I've said I miss him, he has said he loves my conversations and he's even talked about future plans with me, I don't get my hopes up now because he missed coming to see me and in still a little dissapointed and hesitant because of it. It feels like we're going into the next phase... Cause he's more engaging. He showed me something I never saw before too... I just think maybe a month or so more should do.
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i guess it's hard for people to just let it go, and let things unfold and just relax.
edit: but she's full of anxiety and fear...

it's probably normal for her if she really really likes someone and doesnt understand why he's not reciprocating.

that's horrible.
I'm used to being possessive and gain after the man and they like it. But I end up wearing the pants. He does not want this and it's intriguing. I'm not used to it and so I need the advice on how to just chill/ what's wrong with that
why are you changing who you are? if thats not how you are naturally?

what is your venus and mars? if you have a water venus and/or water venus it would help his Scorpio moon.
Aries Venus and Scorpio Mars lol.... However I don't want to wear the pants anymore and this is what I get when I chase so I am trying a different approach. I also not trying to seem desperate cause I am not trust... But I'm really feeling him and I need to find balance.
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trying a different approach?? it doesn't seem natural.
it seems more calculating. i'd just leave him be. if he wants to come after you, let him.

if he doesn't c'est la vie. If you love him it will hurt but that's life.

ive heard and witnessed plenty of women chasing down men and they still dont want them back. (this is the case what happened with my husband's cousin)

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or water mars, i mean. it would help. i see you are very earthy. does he have earth himself?? if he does you both can get eachother.

if he's not reciprocating it's probably very black and white.
Him Leo sun
Scorp moon
Cancer Venus
Aquarius Mars


Me Taurus sun
Taurus moon
Aries venus
Scorpio Mars

He is reciprocating. We are doing just fine right now. We test each other though and the pace a little slow... I know why I'm going slow and it's Becuase I've been hurt and Taurus likes forever so if it won't be forever I don't want to hurt myself cause it takes for ever to heal. But I still don't know why he is slow too. Probably the same reason. I'm starting to get him and understand a little. He shows me just enough to get me thinking but never speaks about it and I never ask cause I realize when I ask he shuts down. But.... I had a concern one morning (6am) and he called me to pacify that (at that time of morning and he was asleep). He also spent more time calling me that day and we spoke a lot. I was so shocked that everything I could have asked went out the window. Then he pulled away again and then comes back. That seems to be the pattern. I also let him pull away and give space Becuase of he wants to go... Then I'm not chasing but if he comes back I'm me and I engage. Obviously he likes it if he keeps coming back no?
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eh he has cancer venus aqua mars? hm.

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Venus in Water, Mars in Air (Romantic Water, Airy Desires): You are a study in contradictions when it comes to love! You are a sensitive companion who enjoys amusing, comforting, and inspiring your partner. You don’t generally come across as sensitive as you truly are, tending to hide this sensitivity behind a playful and lighthearted manner. You are very respectful of a partner’s rights and individuality. You tend to fall in love easily, yet at the same time hesitantly. You are both a private person and a people person. This dichotomy may be confusing for a partner, and even for you at times! You view sex as an emotional release, yet you also tend to appraise it with intellectual detachment. As a result, you can come across as intimate and doting one day, and cool—even self-possessed—the next! You are a sensual lover, and you are forever drawn to relationships. You are extremely charming, as you are both playful and warm at once. You are not an easy lover to understand, however. You alternate between sexual adventurousness and vulnerability. Your lover will frequently wonder if it’s freedom you need most, or if it’s closeness and intimacy that is most important to you. The truth is, you need both, but it can be hard to know when you need what.


Venus and Mars in signs that are quincunx: The things that please you romantically and the things that please you sexually are quite different. What makes you feel loved and desired does not necessarily satisfy you on the level of desire and instinct, and vice versa. One partner could have a hard time attempting to fill your needs. As a result, you could be quite a handful; or, you may find ways to separate your romantic and sexual needs and thus satisfy them individually. You may also need to work on asserting yourself in relationships—either you avoid asserting your needs, or you assert yourself erratically and ineffectively.

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http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/venusincancermarsinaquarius.html

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