
Calculating!?!!! Like people don't change? What about if you want a different outcome you can't keep doing the same thing? I'm sorry but your advice is invalid. Thanks anyways. And it's not s game I'm geninuonely trying to change.


Posted by lisabethur8Please do tellPosted by ShaniajamPosted by lisabethur8Him Leo sun
or water mars, i mean. it would help. i see you are very earthy. does he have earth himself?? if he does you both can get eachother.
if he's not reciprocating it's probably very black and white.
Scorp moon
Cancer Venus
Aquarius Mars
Me Taurus sun
Taurus moon
Aries venus
Scorpio Mars
He is reciprocating. We are doing just fine right now. We test each other though and the pace a little slow... I know why I'm going slow and it's Becuase I've been hurt and Taurus likes forever so if it won't be forever I don't want to hurt myself cause it takes for ever to heal. But I still don't know why he is slow too. Probably the same reason. I'm starting to get him and understand a little. He shows me just enough to get me thinking but never speaks about it and I never ask cause I realize when I ask he shuts down. But.... I had a concern one morning (6am) and he called me to pacify that (at that time of morning and he was asleep). He also spent more time calling me that day and we spoke a lot. I was so shocked that everything I could have asked went out the window. Then he pulled away again and then comes back. That seems to be the pattern. I also let him pull away and give space Becuase of he wants to go... Then I'm not chasing but if he comes back I'm me and I engage. Obviously he likes it if he keeps coming back no?
eh he has cancer venus aqua mars? hm.
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Posted by ShaniajamGet on the same page.Posted by DMVSomething is changing. Before he would play games... To see how I feel. I could see the grin on his face though he try's hard to be serious. He likes the fact that I feel the way I feel about him. He had yet to say I love you though. I need to hear that before I spill my feelings. I've said I miss him, he has said he loves my conversations and he's even talked about future plans with me, I don't get my hopes up now because he missed coming to see me and in still a little dissapointed and hesitant because of it. It feels like we're going into the next phase... Cause he's more engaging. He showed me something I never saw before too... I just think maybe a month or so more should do.Posted by ShaniajamWhy waste anymore time. See where you stand.Posted by DMVI'm nervous argh!!!!! Lol. I have no problem waiting... I'll Waite little longer... And thanks so much for the insight I really needed it.
Also ask him about committing.
Tell him how u feel about him. Tell him what you want from him.
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Posted by ShaniajamPosted by lisabethur8Calculating!?!!! Like people don't change? What about if you want a different outcome you can't keep doing the same thing? I'm sorry but your advice is invalid. Thanks anyways. And it's not s game I'm geninuonely trying to change.Posted by ShaniajamPosted by lisabethur8Aries Venus and Scorpio Mars lol.... However I don't want to wear the pants anymore and this is what I get when I chase so I am trying a different approach. I also not trying to seem desperate cause I am not trust... But I'm really feeling him and I need to find balance.Posted by Shaniajamwhy are you changing who you are? if thats not how you are naturally?Posted by lisabethur8I'm used to being possessive and gain after the man and they like it. But I end up wearing the pants. He does not want this and it's intriguing. I'm not used to it and so I need the advice on how to just chill/ what's wrong with that
i guess it's hard for people to just let it go, and let things unfold and just relax.
edit: but she's full of anxiety and fear...
it's probably normal for her if she really really likes someone and doesnt understand why he's not reciprocating.
that's horrible.
what is your venus and mars? if you have a water venus and/or water venus it would help his Scorpio moon.
trying a different approach?? it doesn't seem natural.
it seems more calculating. i'd just leave him be. if he wants to come after you, let him.
if he doesn't c'est la vie. If you love him it will hurt but that's life.
ive heard and witnessed plenty of women chasing down men and they still dont want them back. (this is the case what happened with my husband's cousin)
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Posted by lisabethur8I agree with this.
but what i'm trying to say, if a guy doesn't like you or love you for who you are, then what's the point?

Posted by lisabethur8I can't argue with that ... I'm not hiding who I am though I'm really trying to change some of my aggressive stubborn ways. He has seen my rage. He's seen me without makeup. He's seen the person no one else sees. I'm just scared to be vulnerable when he's so closed up himself... At times.
but what i'm trying to say, if a guy doesn't like you or love you for who you are, then what's the point?
Posted by Shaniajamyou are mirroring eachother then.Posted by lisabethur8I can't argue with that ... I'm not hiding who I am though I'm really trying to change some of my aggressive stubborn ways. He has seen my rage. He's seen me without makeup. He's seen the person no one else sees. I'm just scared to be vulnerable when he's so closed up himself... At times.
but what i'm trying to say, if a guy doesn't like you or love you for who you are, then what's the point?click to expand
Posted by DonnaElvira77the push pull thing that he does is calculating. i've read it here on this forum about push pull guys.
He sounds like he is being very calculating with you. Be careful.
Posted by DonnaElvira77also being closed just means the guy isn't interested. or she's not picking up emoitonal cues either.
And also just because someone LOOKS less like they are closed doesnt mean their nature is any less calculating. That is still a part of who he is.

Posted by lisabethur8I agreePosted by DonnaElvira77also being closed just means the guy isn't interested. or she's not picking up emoitonal cues either.
And also just because someone LOOKS less like they are closed doesnt mean their nature is any less calculating. That is still a part of who he is.
either way, guys like that can't make up their mind and sound like a huge hassle.click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8Ah... I see your point. That got my brain tingling with thoughts now lol. I don't want to be stagnant and i want us to be moving forward at an even flowing pace. I need to find balance.Posted by Shaniajamyou are mirroring eachother then.Posted by lisabethur8I can't argue with that ... I'm not hiding who I am though I'm really trying to change some of my aggressive stubborn ways. He has seen my rage. He's seen me without makeup. He's seen the person no one else sees. I'm just scared to be vulnerable when he's so closed up himself... At times.
but what i'm trying to say, if a guy doesn't like you or love you for who you are, then what's the point?
that's why it sounds like games. no one is going anywhere.click to expand


Posted by DMVLol. Point taken.
First you have to find out if there even is an "us"
Posted by Shaniajami just realized you ARE chasing him. 😆Posted by lisabethur8Ah... I see your point. That got my brain tingling with thoughts now lol. I don't want to be stagnant and i want us to be moving forward at an even flowing pace. I need to find balance.Posted by Shaniajamyou are mirroring eachother then.Posted by lisabethur8I can't argue with that ... I'm not hiding who I am though I'm really trying to change some of my aggressive stubborn ways. He has seen my rage. He's seen me without makeup. He's seen the person no one else sees. I'm just scared to be vulnerable when he's so closed up himself... At times.
but what i'm trying to say, if a guy doesn't like you or love you for who you are, then what's the point?
that's why it sounds like games. no one is going anywhere.click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8Lmao... How did you get that when I wait for him to call or speak lol... I am chasing him quietly but how are you aware when I'm always just "waiting" lol btw that's a Taurus thing lol (patience is key lol). Tell me cause if you see it then he does too lolPosted by Shaniajami just realized you ARE chasing him. 😆Posted by lisabethur8Ah... I see your point. That got my brain tingling with thoughts now lol. I don't want to be stagnant and i want us to be moving forward at an even flowing pace. I need to find balance.Posted by Shaniajamyou are mirroring eachother then.Posted by lisabethur8I can't argue with that ... I'm not hiding who I am though I'm really trying to change some of my aggressive stubborn ways. He has seen my rage. He's seen me without makeup. He's seen the person no one else sees. I'm just scared to be vulnerable when he's so closed up himself... At times.
but what i'm trying to say, if a guy doesn't like you or love you for who you are, then what's the point?
that's why it sounds like games. no one is going anywhere.
go on ....go on... 😄click to expand
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