Trying to motivate the unmotivared?

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What are some techniques to motivate someone who is extremely unmotivated. This person is 20 year old, was home schooled in high school, never employed, only has friends from online community & was never required to have responsibilities at home.

I know how to talk to this person about interests & entertainment, but I cant get any further than that. When I talk about constructive recommendations (gym, events, trade programs, school) the conversation pretty much goes nowhere.
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What are some techniques to motivate someone who is extremely unmotivated. This person is 20 year old, was home schooled in high school, never employed, only has friends from online community & was never required to have responsibilities at home.

I know how to talk to this person about interests & entertainment, but I cant get any further than that. When I talk about constructive recommendations (gym, events, trade programs, school) the conversation pretty much goes nowhere.


Do they have a telephone bill or any type of bill that needs to be paid or they suffer the consequences? Online community? The internet would be turned off, if they were in my home. How is the 20 year old supporting themselves?

You mentioned everything other then getting a job, just that they’ve always been unemployed. Are they expected not to work?

People get motivated usually when they have nothing and need it. Looks like the 20 year old is sitting pretty and likes where they are. There needs to be a fire held under that ass to make them a little uncomfortable in their seat.

On the other hand, the person is still young and must have a very good home life if they feel they don’t have to do much. Loving parents.

I like that.
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What are some techniques to motivate someone who is extremely unmotivated. This person is 20 year old, was home schooled in high school, never employed, only has friends from online community & was never required to have responsibilities at home.

I know how to talk to this person about interests & entertainment, but I cant get any further than that. When I talk about constructive recommendations (gym, events, trade programs, school) the conversation pretty much goes nowhere.

Do they have a telephone bill or any type of bill that needs to be paid or they suffer the consequences? Online community? The internet would be turned off, if they were in my home. How is the 20 year old supporting themselves?

You mentioned everything other then getting a job, just that they’ve always been unemployed. Are they expected not to work?

People get motivated usually when they have nothing and need it. Looks like the 20 year old is sitting pretty and likes where they are. There needs to be a fire held under that ass to make them a little uncomfortable in their seat.

On the other hand, the person is still young and must have a very good home life if they feel they don’t have to do much. Loving parents.

I like that.
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I dont think you understand. It's not my place to light fire under ass. I'm trying to find ways to help without being an asshole for once
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It’s one of those things that just happens on its own. You can’t say or do anything to make anyone care about anything. All you can hope is that you say or do something that plants a seed that eventually makes someone make their own choice to do something

You could take some people mooching and throw them out on the street and they still wouldn’t give a fuck. Maybe they have to flounder for a while, maybe that’s their path in life. Lots of people are working through some serious issues that debilitate them, that the world doesn’t see

But once those people work through it and find a true passion for life or some calling in life they’ll sort their shit out. Even if they’re just working a shitty job to support their passion


I hope that is the case. From where I'm standing it seems like the longer they wait the harder it's going to get. I'm like the king of "round about" inspiration, but people just want to be stuck in their mental routine. It feels nearly impossible, but I know it's a waiting game that potentially wont have any results
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What are some techniques to motivate someone who is extremely unmotivated. This person is 20 year old, was home schooled in high school, never employed, only has friends from online community & was never required to have responsibilities at home.

I know how to talk to this person about interests & entertainment, but I cant get any further than that. When I talk about constructive recommendations (gym, events, trade programs, school) the conversation pretty much goes nowhere.

Do they have a telephone bill or any type of bill that needs to be paid or they suffer the consequences? Online community? The internet would be turned off, if they were in my home. How is the 20 year old supporting themselves?

You mentioned everything other then getting a job, just that they’ve always been unemployed. Are they expected not to work?

People get motivated usually when they have nothing and need it. Looks like the 20 year old is sitting pretty and likes where they are. There needs to be a fire held under that ass to make them a little uncomfortable in their seat.

On the other hand, the person is still young and must have a very good home life if they feel they don’t have to do much. Loving parents.

I like that.

I dont think you understand. It's not my place to light fire under ass. I'm trying to find ways to help without being an asshole for once
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Lol. You’re not an asshole, there’s nothing wrong with you.

You sure there isn’t any type of weed hindering the 20 year old?

I’m not sure how introverted the person is.

But if they are living with their parents, why isn’t school or work being required? Like the 20 year old needs to do one or the other or they need to live somewhere else?

You can talk all you want but it will probably fall on deaf ears cause they have what they need and don’t know what it’s like to want for something.
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Posted by 777

What are some techniques to motivate someone who is extremely unmotivated. This person is 20 year old, was home schooled in high school, never employed, only has friends from online community & was never required to have responsibilities at home.

I know how to talk to this person about interests & entertainment, but I cant get any further than that. When I talk about constructive recommendations (gym, events, trade programs, school) the conversation pretty much goes nowhere.


Personally I like to leave them in a real life situation that forces them to make a choice which will be the difference between them being absolutely fucked with no one to help, or for them to step it up and make it work. That might sound fucked up, but you need to know when to have someone's back, but also cut off all ties so you don't end up their crutch. Some people might add in a bunch of sugary words, or that you can't ever give up on the people you care about, but at the same time they need to see the truth of who they truly are. Even if it's really hard and feels wrong for you to do. If you truly care about them you wont just coddle them and pretend like they are right about their ways. And if they are too stubborn to listen, fuck them. Let them go fail. It will teach them a valuable lesson, or destroy them. Neither are truly your problem in the end.
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Posted by but_didyoudie

I think you have to lead by example.. you know that saying walk the walk and talk the talk? You know that saying. People cannot be going around preaching to others if they cannot hold those principles themselves. I think a lot of young people are starting to catch up to the hypocrisy of some people and systems in general.... hence why I personally never liked churches... and now i will not set foot in one.... now that I know religion is just an organized control system fed by hypocrisy.


Ur making excuses for people in a world who doesn't care about them. The hypocrisy of the people ur talking about feed them & give them place to live.
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What are some techniques to motivate someone who is extremely unmotivated. This person is 20 year old, was home schooled in high school, never employed, only has friends from online community & was never required to have responsibilities at home.

I know how to talk to this person about interests & entertainment, but I cant get any further than that. When I talk about constructive recommendations (gym, events, trade programs, school) the conversation pretty much goes nowhere.

Personally I like to leave them in a real life situation that forces them to make a choice which will be the difference between them being absolutely fucked with no one to help, or for them to step it up and make it work. That might sound fucked up, but you need to know when to have someone's back, but also cut off all ties so you don't end up their crutch. Some people might add in a bunch of sugary words, or that you can't ever give up on the people you care about, but at the same time they need to see the truth of who they truly are. Even if it's really hard and feels wrong for you to do. If you truly care about them you wont just coddle them and pretend like they are right about their ways. And if they are too stubborn to listen, fuck them. Let them go fail. It will teach them a valuable lesson, or destroy them. Neither are truly your problem in the end.
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I guess it's just the burden of family. We have to take care of each other because of other family members debilitating practices