dissecting personalities,

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this is also for CanBull, too due to the topic of Karma.



example 1.



Britney Murphy.

I was reminded of what happened to Britney Murphy and went to look up her biography a bit.

She was extremely ambitious in her creative endeavours, to the point even her mother who loved and believed in her sold everything and moved closer to a place where she can shine and find a home for her ambition to grow.

for analysis purposes, do you all believe what you read about her not doing cocaine to lose weight?

or what about her choosing her husband? Do you believe it's a case of good girl wanting bad boy?



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I feel like she was a very troubled person with a lot of... Inner "issues" that she kept hidden for a very long time. Probably since she was a kid.

No, I don't think the weight loss and physical transformation was natural. I think she was surrounded by this superficial "Hollywood world" after she blew up from her role in Clueless, felt insecure and probably developed an eating disorder, grew out her hair and then went blonde. But even after she started getting the "good looking girl" roles like the one she had with Ashton Kutcher, the romantic comedy movie, I still don't think she felt good enough or pretty enough even though she was.

I would not be surprised if she did deal with a secret drug addiction, along with an eating disorder and was probably good at hiding it. I feel like she was the type who could be a functioning person with addictions and obsessive behaviors.

As for her death, I think it was very fishy and I doubt what the media portrays is true. Something was going on there that we don't know and probably will never know.

R.I.P to her though. She was a great actress and extremely underrated. Once she blossomed into this beauty she truly became a triple threat. She was always an actress first and foremost, but once she got the looks she became quite the package. It's unfortunate that she never truly did break out as much as she could have and deserved to!


I thought so too about her death. I don't know what happened really, but it's too suspicious. Everything was.

Yes I agree with you about her eating disorder.

she denied claims of cocaine addiction,but there was definitely an eating disorder. she could have been secretly bulimic and wont tell anyone. I know plenty of people in both my family and my husband's family that have been bulimic and they will never say they were. It's too much shame to have the world know you are throwing up to stay skinny.

what do you think of her husband by the way?
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I feel like she was a very troubled person with a lot of... Inner "issues" that she kept hidden for a very long time. Probably since she was a kid.

No, I don't think the weight loss and physical transformation was natural. I think she was surrounded by this superficial "Hollywood world" after she blew up from her role in Clueless, felt insecure and probably developed an eating disorder, grew out her hair and then went blonde. But even after she started getting the "good looking girl" roles like the one she had with Ashton Kutcher, the romantic comedy movie, I still don't think she felt good enough or pretty enough even though she was.

I would not be surprised if she did deal with a secret drug addiction, along with an eating disorder and was probably good at hiding it. I feel like she was the type who could be a functioning person with addictions and obsessive behaviors.

As for her death, I think it was very fishy and I doubt what the media portrays is true. Something was going on there that we don't know and probably will never know.

R.I.P to her though. She was a great actress and extremely underrated. Once she blossomed into this beauty she truly became a triple threat. She was always an actress first and foremost, but once she got the looks she became quite the package. It's unfortunate that she never truly did break out as much as she could have and deserved to!


I thought so too about her death. I don't know what happened really, but it's too suspicious. Everything was.

Yes I agree with you about her eating disorder.

she denied claims of cocaine addiction,but there was definitely an eating disorder. she could have been secretly bulimic and wont tell anyone. I know plenty of people in both my family and my husband's family that have been bulimic and they will never say they were. It's too much shame to have the world know you are throwing up to stay skinny.

what do you think of her husband by the way?



Gosh. I feel so bad about this because they're dead and we don't know them or know anything for sure...

But gosh. I kind of feel like he could have been abusive. Mentally and physically. And maybe someone who kind of... Got her deeper into her alleged addiction issues. It's just the vibe I get from him.
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my ex died, and he was not a good man when he walked this earth. No matter how much you cover it. He married someone and had babies, but I know from his personality/character he will hurt them. And of course you don't want that to happen. that's why people who knew him and are relgiiouis, think, that god took him away so that he would not harm any more innocents.

yes you're right. the dead should r.i.p. but, he didn't sound like he was a good man. plus he was involved in credit card frauds, evicted from homes, and was even involved in a bad dealing with some other directors/producers of films. I have no detail of it but it didn't sound good.
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I feel like she was a very troubled person with a lot of... Inner "issues" that she kept hidden for a very long time. Probably since she was a kid.

No, I don't think the weight loss and physical transformation was natural. I think she was surrounded by this superficial "Hollywood world" after she blew up from her role in Clueless, felt insecure and probably developed an eating disorder, grew out her hair and then went blonde. But even after she started getting the "good looking girl" roles like the one she had with Ashton Kutcher, the romantic comedy movie, I still don't think she felt good enough or pretty enough even though she was.

I would not be surprised if she did deal with a secret drug addiction, along with an eating disorder and was probably good at hiding it. I feel like she was the type who could be a functioning person with addictions and obsessive behaviors.

As for her death, I think it was very fishy and I doubt what the media portrays is true. Something was going on there that we don't know and probably will never know.

R.I.P to her though. She was a great actress and extremely underrated. Once she blossomed into this beauty she truly became a triple threat. She was always an actress first and foremost, but once she got the looks she became quite the package. It's unfortunate that she never truly did break out as much as she could have and deserved to!


I thought so too about her death. I don't know what happened really, but it's too suspicious. Everything was.

Yes I agree with you about her eating disorder.

she denied claims of cocaine addiction,but there was definitely an eating disorder. she could have been secretly bulimic and wont tell anyone. I know plenty of people in both my family and my husband's family that have been bulimic and they will never say they were. It's too much shame to have the world know you are throwing up to stay skinny.

what do you think of her husband by the way?



Gosh. I feel so bad about this because they're dead and we don't know them or know anything for sure...

But gosh. I kind of feel like he could have been abusive. Mentally and physically. And maybe someone who kind of... Got her deeper into her alleged addiction issues. It's just the vibe I get from him.

my ex died, and he was not a good man when he walked this earth. No matter how much you cover it. He married someone and had babies, but I know from his personality/character he will hurt them. And of course you don't want that to happen. that's why people who knew him and are relgiiouis, think, that god took him away so that he would not harm any more innocents.

yes you're right. the dead should r.i.p. but, he didn't sound like he was a good man. plus he was involved in credit card frauds, evicted from homes, and was even involved in a bad dealing with some other directors/producers of films. I have no detail of it but it didn't sound good.



And isn't it so weird how he and the mother didn't want an autopsy? If my daughter or wife dies, 32 years old, and I have no idea what the cause was... I'd be BEGGING for an autopsy. I would do everything in my power to figure out what the cause was...

Look at this interview and look at how he jumps in to help the mom with excuses. He comes across so fricking manipulative. I have no idea what these people were hiding but it was something big.

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wow I didn't know about that part. I'm just now learning more about Britney Murphy....

and YES I would be adamant!!! abuot finding out about the cause!! a mother would definitely move heaven and earth to find out!! it puts her own soul to rest as well.

I didn't know that these two conspired. the way it read was that Britney was so proud of her mother and her mother did a lot to do things for Britney. This is very much a complicated story that has a lot of hidden motives.
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I don't know anything about this actress or the story around her.

Friends and people who know her out of respect can cover up her tracks and downfalls and attribute things to her dealing with issues.

There is also a video on Youtube with a title "Brittany Murphy's mother did not want an autopsy"

Now that could be a sign of "just leave me alone i have lost enough i need to deal with this"

Or "i know what happened she don't need this"

I will post this, i hope i am on the right track with you?


I honestly did not know about that. That puts a whole new light on the situation too.

yes, I also wanted to understand why you mentioned on the other topic, where you said something like, your home can also be a place where you kill or bury people.. and you mentioned karma.



that also reminded me of John Wayne gacy, who is a double pisces in the 4th house. The dark themes around the home and how he buried over 30 men in his home. Not to off on that topic, but just that the themes itself suggest a lot of hidden darkness.
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I feel like she was a very troubled person with a lot of... Inner "issues" that she kept hidden for a very long time. Probably since she was a kid.

No, I don't think the weight loss and physical transformation was natural. I think she was surrounded by this superficial "Hollywood world" after she blew up from her role in Clueless, felt insecure and probably developed an eating disorder, grew out her hair and then went blonde. But even after she started getting the "good looking girl" roles like the one she had with Ashton Kutcher, the romantic comedy movie, I still don't think she felt good enough or pretty enough even though she was.

I would not be surprised if she did deal with a secret drug addiction, along with an eating disorder and was probably good at hiding it. I feel like she was the type who could be a functioning person with addictions and obsessive behaviors.

As for her death, I think it was very fishy and I doubt what the media portrays is true. Something was going on there that we don't know and probably will never know.

R.I.P to her though. She was a great actress and extremely underrated. Once she blossomed into this beauty she truly became a triple threat. She was always an actress first and foremost, but once she got the looks she became quite the package. It's unfortunate that she never truly did break out as much as she could have and deserved to!


I thought so too about her death. I don't know what happened really, but it's too suspicious. Everything was.

Yes I agree with you about her eating disorder.

she denied claims of cocaine addiction,but there was definitely an eating disorder. she could have been secretly bulimic and wont tell anyone. I know plenty of people in both my family and my husband's family that have been bulimic and they will never say they were. It's too much shame to have the world know you are throwing up to stay skinny.

what do you think of her husband by the way?



Gosh. I feel so bad about this because they're dead and we don't know them or know anything for sure...

But gosh. I kind of feel like he could have been abusive. Mentally and physically. And maybe someone who kind of... Got her deeper into her alleged addiction issues. It's just the vibe I get from him.

my ex died, and he was not a good man when he walked this earth. No matter how much you cover it. He married someone and had babies, but I know from his personality/character he will hurt them. And of course you don't want that to happen. that's why people who knew him and are relgiiouis, think, that god took him away so that he would not harm any more innocents.

yes you're right. the dead should r.i.p. but, he didn't sound like he was a good man. plus he was involved in credit card frauds, evicted from homes, and was even involved in a bad dealing with some other directors/producers of films. I have no detail of it but it didn't sound good.



And isn't it so weird how he and the mother didn't want an autopsy? If my daughter or wife dies, 32 years old, and I have no idea what the cause was... I'd be BEGGING for an autopsy. I would do everything in my power to figure out what the cause was...

Look at this interview and look at how he jumps in to help the mom with excuses. He comes across so fricking manipulative. I have no idea what these people were hiding but it was something big.

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ok I watched the videos and the mother is wayyy tooo confused and easily manipulated to believe anything. she is I hate to say it, but easily manipulated to believe whatever. Even if it's in the face of death of her beloved child. it's as if she has lost the will to fight.

it is very common so I don't blame her partly. but I do and will blame others around her if they don't have her best interest.
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I don't know anything about this actress or the story around her.

Friends and people who know her out of respect can cover up her tracks and downfalls and attribute things to her dealing with issues.

There is also a video on Youtube with a title "Brittany Murphy's mother did not want an autopsy"

Now that could be a sign of "just leave me alone i have lost enough i need to deal with this"

Or "i know what happened she don't need this"

I will post this, i hope i am on the right track with you?


I honestly did not know about that. That puts a whole new light on the situation too.

yes, I also wanted to understand why you mentioned on the other topic, where you said something like, your home can also be a place where you kill or bury people.. and you mentioned karma.



that also reminded me of John Wayne gacy, who is a double pisces in the 4th house. The dark themes around the home and how he buried over 30 men in his home. Not to off on that topic, but just that the themes itself suggest a lot of hidden darkness.
My comment in that certain thread was linked to the person giving out so much badness to others on DXP.

In the comfort of your own home you are able to give others so much negativity.

But i like that you have bought up a different scenario.

This brings up mental issues and most likely something that has manifested.

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oh lol

my mind went completey to the linking of Britney murphy and I dug up their information there and found something else. *smh*

in which way are you talking about mental issues? can you be more specific?
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Scorpio daughter.. sun and moon...


can go either way. the best is the very best, the worst is the very worst.

edit not talking about Britney though, just the placements themselves.

but I get the feeling you had something to say about the position of sun and moon, and in relation to her mother, and even father.

she had no father really, he wasn't even around....

could it be that she projected that father-figure role to her husband?
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Or was.
well it's hard to decipher.

it could be ..very well be that all odds were against him and all those credit card frauds were just his bad luck, and that those charges were dropped anyway.(all that were part of his past)

it just seems weird to not want autopsy, and using religion as an excuse too. fuck religion if your beloved died, you just want to understand.

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I was talking to some of my family members today over Britney Murphy,

and they agreed that if someone is taking strong medication, they are very very depressed,

Britney Murphy, seemed in her life that she was very depressed and not happy in her life.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/22/brittany-murphys-drugs-th_n_400321.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/6871387/Brittany-Murphy-10-different-drugs-found-at-her-bedside.html
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I feel like she was a very troubled person with a lot of... Inner "issues" that she kept hidden for a very long time. Probably since she was a kid.

No, I don't think the weight loss and physical transformation was natural. I think she was surrounded by this superficial "Hollywood world" after she blew up from her role in Clueless, felt insecure and probably developed an eating disorder, grew out her hair and then went blonde. But even after she started getting the "good looking girl" roles like the one she had with Ashton Kutcher, the romantic comedy movie, I still don't think she felt good enough or pretty enough even though she was.

I would not be surprised if she did deal with a secret drug addiction, along with an eating disorder and was probably good at hiding it. I feel like she was the type who could be a functioning person with addictions and obsessive behaviors.

As for her death, I think it was very fishy and I doubt what the media portrays is true. Something was going on there that we don't know and probably will never know.

R.I.P to her though. She was a great actress and extremely underrated. Once she blossomed into this beauty she truly became a triple threat. She was always an actress first and foremost, but once she got the looks she became quite the package. It's unfortunate that she never truly did break out as much as she could have and deserved to!


I thought so too about her death. I don't know what happened really, but it's too suspicious. Everything was.

Yes I agree with you about her eating disorder.

she denied claims of cocaine addiction,but there was definitely an eating disorder. she could have been secretly bulimic and wont tell anyone. I know plenty of people in both my family and my husband's family that have been bulimic and they will never say they were. It's too much shame to have the world know you are throwing up to stay skinny.

what do you think of her husband by the way?



Gosh. I feel so bad about this because they're dead and we don't know them or know anything for sure...

But gosh. I kind of feel like he could have been abusive. Mentally and physically. And maybe someone who kind of... Got her deeper into her alleged addiction issues. It's just the vibe I get from him.

my ex died, and he was not a good man when he walked this earth. No matter how much you cover it. He married someone and had babies, but I know from his personality/character he will hurt them. And of course you don't want that to happen. that's why people who knew him and are relgiiouis, think, that god took him away so that he would not harm any more innocents.

yes you're right. the dead should r.i.p. but, he didn't sound like he was a good man. plus he was involved in credit card frauds, evicted from homes, and was even involved in a bad dealing with some other directors/producers of films. I have no detail of it but it didn't sound good.



And isn't it so weird how he and the mother didn't want an autopsy? If my daughter or wife dies, 32 years old, and I have no idea what the cause was... I'd be BEGGING for an autopsy. I would do everything in my power to figure out what the cause was...

Look at this interview and look at how he jumps in to help the mom with excuses. He comes across so fricking manipulative. I have no idea what these people were hiding but it was something big.



ok I watched the videos and the mother is wayyy tooo confused and easily manipulated to believe anything. she is I hate to say it, but easily manipulated to believe whatever. Even if it's in the face of death of her beloved child. it's as if she has lost the will to fight.

it is very common so I don't blame her partly. but I do and will blame others around her if they don't have her best interest.

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did anyone also notice....

that he says, "this pristine body curving in all the right places......why woud we cut that up?"

very very weird—!! I find that odd to say in what happened. It's extremely morbid.
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That's a rough chart :/
details??

any input on it?


I'm not great at reading charts sadly.

Do you have her details? i will see what i can do and i will get a better study on her.

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well why do you say it's a difficult chart? I mean can you point out which parts you think are difficult.

mars in 12th I see difficult, as I see quite a few mars in 12th women with violent, abusive men. not always of course, but they have a difficulty in personal relationship to express themselves, or assert themselves.

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Brittany_Murphy

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oh wow on this one...



-11 Square Venus - Ascendant

She goes to excess in her pleasures, frequents doubtful company. She lacks good taste. She is very spendthrift, but spreads her money around her circle. Her friends are more self-interested than sincere.





9 Square Moon - Ascendant

She is unhappily influenced by the family. She is probably loved insufficiently by her parents, but looks for more love especially from her mother. She is susceptible, has superficial sensitivity and is sometimes irascible.



--- although it doesn't look like she lacks love from her mother. I mean why would her mother pack up everything and sell everything to go move to where she wanted. She put her mother on a pedestal, and her mother was with her always.

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did anyone also notice....

that he says, "this pristine body curving in all the right places......why woud we cut that up?"

very very weird—!! I find that odd to say in what happened. It's extremely morbid.




Yes! That stood out to me as very creepy -- totally weird he would mention it like that.

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and he also says, "skin like silk"

does he associate her body that way even after death? Does he not realize that death will destroy your body and it is gone, into ashes??

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did anyone also notice....

that he says, "this pristine body curving in all the right places......why woud we cut that up?"

very very weird—!! I find that odd to say in what happened. It's extremely morbid.




Yes! That stood out to me as very creepy -- totally weird he would mention it like that.


and he also says, "skin like silk"

does he associate her body that way even after death? Does he not realize that death will destroy your body and it is gone, into ashes??

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Something is off about him to be expressing things in that way, in that context, IMO. Really off. I think something about his character is leaking through in those statements, they aren't just someone who puts their foot in their mouth.

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did anyone also notice....

that he says, "this pristine body curving in all the right places......why woud we cut that up?"

very very weird—!! I find that odd to say in what happened. It's extremely morbid.




Yes! That stood out to me as very creepy -- totally weird he would mention it like that.


and he also says, "skin like silk"

does he associate her body that way even after death? Does he not realize that death will destroy your body and it is gone, into ashes??


Something is off about him to be expressing things in that way, in that context, IMO. Really off. I think something about his character is leaking through in those statements, they aren't just someone who puts their foot in their mouth.

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the fact that he doesn't want an autopsy is weird enough but his claims of pristine body and curving in all the right places. It sounds like he is talking about a sculpture that is not to be taken down due to artistic rights. She is a human being, who had passed, his own wife! not a statue.

if he had seen death, decay will set and rigamortis is after 6 hours, the body will smell too. a lot of stuff is off..



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even as little as 4 hours it says, rigor mortis sets in..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigor_mortis
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did anyone also notice....

that he says, "this pristine body curving in all the right places......why woud we cut that up?"

very very weird—!! I find that odd to say in what happened. It's extremely morbid.




Yes! That stood out to me as very creepy -- totally weird he would mention it like that.


and he also says, "skin like silk"

does he associate her body that way even after death? Does he not realize that death will destroy your body and it is gone, into ashes??


Something is off about him to be expressing things in that way, in that context, IMO. Really off. I think something about his character is leaking through in those statements, they aren't just someone who puts their foot in their mouth.




the fact that he doesn't want an autopsy is weird enough but his claims of pristine body and curving in all the right places. It sounds like he is talking about a sculpture that is not to be taken down due to artistic rights. She is a human being, who had passed, his own wife! not a statue.

if he had seen death, decay will set and rigamortis is after 6 hours, the body will smell too. a lot of stuff is off..



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even as little as 4 hours it says, rigor mortis sets in..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigor_mortis
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Yes, exactly!

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I don't know what to think, because to give the benefit of the doubt,

he could just be having a hard time separating reality and his high pedestal of her, although it's in a very sexualized way...

if we are creeped out, even Britney's friends had wanted her husband to be investigated....

http://people.com/celebrity/brittany-murphys-husband-found-dead/

"In an interview with PEOPLE in January, Monjack maintained that his wife had visited a doctor. “I took very good care of my wife … She was on an antibiotic and she was taking cough medicine and doing all the right things,” he said.

Regarding concern from Murphy’s friends that Monjack should be investigated, Winter said: “He was never considered a suspect. No one’s criminally liable here because this has been ruled an accident.”