Darker Side Of Some Pisceans

Pisces is a slippery, manipulative, unreliable reality-dodger with delusions of adequacy and an
addiction to sentimentality and self-destruction. You have candy-colored dreams in which you are
the hero/heroine who saves the day, asking nothing but everlasting gratitude and unconditional
love in return. You want to make it all better for the sad and inadequate. But, deep down, your
vicarious wallowing gets in the way of your what you think you want to do and who you want to
help. If by chance you do manage to get anyone back on their feet and they start succeeding at
life, you get insanely jealous and start pricking their self-esteem.

Your natural habitat is murky emotional depths, where you drift about vaguely, moaning about the
intolerable pressure the world puts you under. Because you have the willpower of a marshmallow,
whenever you feel cosmically hard done by, you climb into a bottle or book a vacation in Fantasia.
You appear to be helpless and put upon, but you're not. You know the manipulative value of
martyrdom and suicide threats.

Anyone who has to deal with you should always carry a tape recorder, for anything mutually agreed
two minutes ago, you will deny utterly two minutes later. You set out on a sentence full of
optimism and jollity; by the time you get to the end of the sentence, you are one with Eeyore and
everyone else has lost the will to live. What you want now is never what you will want in one
minute, or what you did want three minutes ago. You have no persistence of vision. You will
occasionally have a red flash of ambition, but unfocused is more your style .

Pisces have no armor and can't risk a straightforward fight, so you rely on manipulation and the
tyranny of the weak instead.

In the bedroom, you love for someone to take charge. You want to be played with and used. You
enjoy role playing. It's not for the sex (although you quite like sex and 90 seconds is plenty
long enough for your attention span). You do it to stop being yourself and dissolve into someone
else and to abase yourself and make someone else responsible for you. You are tooth-achingly
sentimental. Lovers shrink before the collection of 2,000 cuddly toys in your bedroom and go red
in the face at the thought of the pet names you give them. You always confuse sex with love and
affection, (which is why Scorpio always fools you.)

If things are the least bit difficult in a relationship, if you feel pressured, or if a better
offer comes by, you simply drift off. You never feel guilty because it's always someone else's
fault.

Quantity is the only thing that will absorb all the neediness you pump out, and that will generate
enough energy to replace all that you absorb, so you swim around with a huge school of
acquaintances. Because you have a nano-attention span, and can't be bothered to do any work on
existing relationships, you are always looking for a New Best Friend. You target the sick, ugly,
outcast, or psychologically damaged because you think they will be grateful and fulfill some of
your many needs. At the same time, you need a hero to feed off of, who will let you be a doormat
so that you can get yourself off the boring hook of personal responsibility.

Brightsiders claim you're a romantic, but you're just a sentimental drifter. You float in and out
of relationships without a second thought, pulled by the strongest current.

In work, you are typically labeled as creative, but that's just a fancy description for
unemployable. You tend to drift at work. You may stare blankly at a wall for hours, waiting for
inspiration, or close your eyes to await the muse. Your lack of energy and coordination, and a
pig-headed adolescent determination to buck the system, don't help. When you are not praised
extravagantly for the work you have done

No.

"You always confuse sex with love and
affection, (which is why Scorpio always fools you.)"


Big,HUGE misconception about that sign and thats really old too and actually only a very few astrologers actually get it about scorpios and sex.We aren't driven by sex,sex is an act of procreation(scorps is the life and death sign;regeneration and survival thats how sex works and plays a "needed" role in life)It's either viewed that way by a scorpio or sex is a spiritual union of souls unless they are rather pathetic and shallow which is supposed to be rare.Pisceseans are loved because scorpios(at least in my own pisces/scorpio relationship) know they aren't weak,little b/tches and can generally tell when they are being played by them and if they are found out later the pisces gets one very angry partner which somehow thier twisted little minds like for some freakin reason,maybe it's just the fact that they know where it's coming from.It's like setting off a timebomb when playing with a scorps heart and a pisces is actually one of the few signs I've encountered who actually understand that and is very much appreciated for that when they are the honest types.Im always calling my (problematic or dark-sided)pisces friends on the fact that they CAN do something about whatever the problem is and kinda push them towards doing it or at least be a supporter or the flip side tell them what they did wrong or become aloft and the tough love role when they get too needy.

Anyhoo I know you didn't write that due to seeing it before but just in case you actually belive this stuff that much it's not true about either sign due to other planets as well as reality,experiances and the real people that they are but am definately sure it is true about some due to those same reasons,depends on the person not the starsign.

Angry Scorp, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Tiamat...

That is sooo funny that you said that because thinking back on my children's father, he responded MOST positively when I was being mean to him. I never understood that! I can't be that psycho girl who screams, yells, argues, and investigates his every move but when I would leave mean voicemails after he stood me up or pissed me off, he would call me back like ASAP and act right for a little while...

Is that a part of the whole martyr thing or what?

I will tell you one thing Cancerlady.

YOU ARE WRONG!

But I wont tell you why. Have fun.

Brahn0913

Did you ever seen anything like that personally with me on this board? If yes, then please don't treat me silently ok? If you think there is something wrong in what I said, I will gladly hear it.

I just want honesty Brahn0913. I do not care how good or bad the honesty is. Honestly, I am always honest with people here. What you see with me here is what I am. I dont know what you exactly see in us as being played on something, but I am really tired of that, if you have something then just say it. And I do not care how harsh it is. I allow you to do this with me ok? But if you have nothing to really show me with what you say, then dont blame us(and me).

depression, deep and dark depression _ especially this time of the year.
no matter how many things are going right for us, we can see the dark side and it is like a shroud where there is no escape.
i am there today. shew. swimming and swimming _ yet going nowhere. and so many hungry sharks in the water.

Maybe he has reasons?

Hello Everyone,
Uh, but I was wondering. . . what's the deal with that long and boring post about the Piscean dark side? Is that Jetjag's way of venting his frustration of his Piscean friend? (Oh well, whatever floats your boat, right?) Anyway, about this subject. . . some of those negative traits would creep up on me. Normally, I'm refined and reserved, but to those who are close to me would see that I'm optimistic, philisophical, and caring. Escapism is the main Piscean trait that I'm big on. I do it because the intensity of a confrontation drives me away. The only time I can handle a confrontation is only when the intensity level is low. When I say intensity, I mean the presence of strong emotions. I cannot handle powerful emotions because it causes me to lose focus. My Aquarian Moon allows me to detach myself from my emotions in order to think clearly. Being around sensitive and emotional folks is scary for me. When I'm faced with powerful emotions (mainly negative). . . I would head for the hills to distance myself from the problem in order to think clearly (like a breather) then I'll return to it with a plan of action to deal with those emotions. (Weird, huh?) But as for the commment about "come and go posters"? Not everyone has the time to visit this post everyday, also people who are new to this post website come to see that most of you all have developed an on-line relationship like a family and that they'll forever be "the newcomer" and not be apart of the clique that you all have formed. I have checked each and everyone of you profiles and you all have listed eachother as your favorite users, which pretty much closes out other from forming a connection with you. With that being sought out is the reason why some people come and go from this post. As for this subject, you all are speaking nothing but the truth, but cut us Piscean natives some slack. It ain't easy having a small part of every other sign mixed together to come up with our very complex star sign. Have a wonderful Friday Night.

Dreamy-eyez, out.

CL,I just have my standards and an honest and direct boyfriend is one of those standards so no game playing is allowed with me lol.I'd actually prefer to not have to argue,complain,etc. so he knows not to give me any reasons to do those things by toying with me and stuff for some moody reason such as wanting to play victem,martyr,etc.Nobodies the perfect victem or martyr so it doesn't work on me.He's actually very much spoiled more than he is argued with anymore,it was only when we first got together that we had some problems.Now it's just kinda comfortable because he knows he gets treated and cared for the way he "wants" to be when he gives the same respect and just saying something directly instead of resorting to playing mindgames to get what he wants from me.Ya know,how us scorps are,play nice and we'll give you the world,play mean and it's off with your head lol.

Im also not likely to believe that people do things like stand you up and such without a reason in some way or another so not too welcoming or believing to someone coming back from pissing me off so explaining is a must before I decide if it's a good reason to forgive or not,if it isn't they know exactly why it's that way and more talking needs to be done to reach a compromise.I also don't expect someone to back down from me either so kissing up or sugarcoating isn't a good thing,I expect someone to get mad back moreso then do or say something to just give me what they think I want out of it,which is actually the few ALWAYS suspecion I do have with the starsigns "suspecious" traits lol.

dear branh
go find another place to put down people. some people have legitimate concerns and issues, and can help each other. that is why pisceans are special
what is your point and reason for being on this board anyway. and what the hell is your problem.
you sound just as depressive, but i have reasons. mainly health. what is yours

and when did you earn your doctorate in pyschology.

That's great

C'mon people. Don't fight for the reason that you both are open and honest. Try to find middle ground.

"C'mon people. Don't fight for the reason that you both are open and honest. Try to find middle ground."

Hmm maybe they need to be "whipped" into shape.What do you think leather or latex and with feathers or just plain old fashion stainless steel?🙂

Can't we jus get along huuuuh, huuhh,lol. I agree with dat point with Pisces and addiction and goin back to my last post, when they flirt they become addicted to that,so forth and so forth. But the loveeee, heeeeey CL mwaaah u looking sexier than ever.,lol

Tiamat I thought you were intimidated by this game anymore. You are confusing me lol.

😉 Thanks Tia, Brahn, and Daemon (When do I get my warm massage for the bitter cold LOL)

By the way Brahn, I don't think I said it was a Pisces thing...I spoke of my child's father specifically. Why I don't think it would ever work between me & this particular Pisces is because I AM so forgiving and I tend to let things build up because I too hate confrontations. Not only in romantic relationships but friendships also. I guess I just expect people to do the right thing. Like when my best friend says she is going pay me later for doing her hair...I expect her to pay me without me having to call her daily and nag her to give me my money. Rather than just go to her and say "Where is my money" I will let it slide again and again until I give her enough rope to hang herself...then I just shut you out of my life because I don't want to surround myself around people with no integrity to do the right thing. More than likely a very idealistic view of the world, but I am beginning to think I live in la-la land more than the Pisces! LOL But who is to blame here? Me? Because I just EXPECT her to do the right thing and live hoping that she will...or her for not doing the right thing?

I feel like I shouldn't HAVE to chase a man down, hound him and b/tch...He is going to do what he wants. Like with my babies...I don't want to be one of those crazy baby mama's who makes your life a living hell calling everyday b/tching about something! I just want him to love his children, help me care for them financially without having to involve the stupid courts, for him to come see them when he can, and for us to have a good friendship...I don't think these things are impossible nor do I think this is asking too much. So in wanting these things, in order for this "personallity type" to fufill these desires...I have to brow beat him and play stupid "I'm mad at you" games and have screaming matches? And if it just isn't in my character to deliver the truth in a hateful manner...it is my fault that I don't get what I want and what they deserve?

What about the golden rule? If I don't like being yelled at, criticized, and nagged to death when I do something wrong...shouldn't I treat others in the same manner? Or does that make me weak?

This for me goes further than just a romantic relationship which is why I ask these questions. I welcome truth, but I cannot deny it is much easier to grab my attention when the truth is not "delivered" so brutally. Tia and Brahn...you have both given EXCELLENT advice in the past but sometimes it is so cutting and harsh that the people can't get past the words to the MEANING and substenance of what you are saying. Now I am not saying anyone is right or wrong but don't you think the delivery matters just as much as what you are saying? I was always taught, it is not always WHAT you say but HOW you say it.

CL/Cm2

I surprise people 90% of the time because it's a what they consider a "rare" form of nice with no fronts to it lol.If you were talking to me face to face some of the things won't sound like they may seem to be written in here,it's not that harsh on a day to day basis when compared to the voice that alot is stated in.I don't get that loud,passionate or anything when saying things,things are just stated in a normal tone.I actually find myself disagreeing that im not nice or a good person due to I know im not any different or better than anyone else,if I were to allow myself to think that seriously I would have issues with myself thinking I have an ego to think that way.Nobodies a saint or nice 24/7 either so a little too much thinking put into the compliments on my "nice" or good traits too.

Anyway,I found that letting people get a too long of a rope is a bad thing,minor things I have no problem forgiving or not even thinking of but when it's after so long and becomes very monotanous thats when I say something.I have the belief that it's better to say something instead of not say anything at all and leave the person in the dark about whatever it is.Although I may lose trust and be willing to drop a person I still don't lose respect for them so thats why I think they deserve to know whats wrong.I look at myself first before I make any decision as to how I react to people in my life,I gotta double check before I say something as to know if maybe im just being sensitive,selfesh,etc. before hand.I don't go around being rude or distrustful of people,I also just expect them to "do the right thing" but when they don't past my boundry of what I can work with,they know directly.They either realise they can't take advantage of me and leave me alone if they are trying to or they are just normal people who didn't think to be considerate and then start working with me.It's a two way street thing and they do always have an option to change my mind if they feel they want to whether it be right away or two years down the line from the incident.

lol,didn't realise the posts here were coming off that blunt as in maybe you'd take it as being mean or hatefully written,lets just say if it was face to face it may sound different.It'd still have the context but will be in a little more soft spoken tone with no "vocal expressions" in it.It'd kinda be like talking to a robot or something as far as the tone I use.I keep the bridges open for repassing for everyone who's done me wrong but don't let them get away with it either due to that reason,letting it build up enough to completely hate someone isn't in my nature so thats why I choose to say something so it doesn't get to that point.Also found it healthier to not stress yourself out by being the doormat or to the point of wasting my time hating someone by just simply saying something to what I don't like.I like to be carefree so alot easier to clear the air when it's happening also it gives them the chance to make things right when it's done.I think it's just "fair" to myself and the other person to just say something even though arguments are a part of it,it's the finished "product" with arguments that matters not the before hand stuff.

My goodness, somebody is very touchy. It's a shame that self expression is so limited in typing, because in my previous post I never meant to offend anyone to get a response like that, but it's no biggie. I don't really live by this astrology "mumbo-jumbo". I just think it's fun and interesting to discuss. So please everyone lets just keep the fun in it. Please?

Brahn...You have given me alot to think about. These are things I have to hear because sometimes I don't know how NOT to be a door mat. Thanks

Tia...LOL You don't necessarily offend me because you remind me of my sister so much (Scorpio also) in your responses that usually when you say something me directly regardless as to how blunt it is, I know what you are saying is coming from a good place. I was speaking mainly of some of the other people's response to things you have written. But like you said, reading typed words is so impersonal and easily misconstrued.

Hey, sometimes people like me NEED to hear it no sugar coating...I might go cry for a minute but I will also think about it and realize the meaning beyond the words you are saying. Even though Brahn you know you piss me off sometimes but I am sure I piss you off too with my "idealism"! LOL

Hey Brahn

I agree with you on almost everything you have have typed in your 2 posts.

I meant to say I agree with almost everything you've said in all of your posts....Brahn.

just for the record, i cetainly don't agree with dr. brahn. in fact, his dark views are the exact opposite of makes pisceans complicated, unique and wonderful

Allen...

Some Pisceans are not complicated, unique, and wonderful people. Some Pisceans are in fact dark, manipulative, and deceptive people. Btw Allen, the word "Some" means at least one.

fascinating jag
so do these folks enjoy spreading their dark views. isn't it better to reach to help, be helped, by others

"so do these folks enjoy spreading their dark views. isn't it better to reach to help, be helped, by others"

Yes,theres a pisces girl I know who literally said she wanted everyone to hate her ex,she was playing victem,he may have had issues too being a cancer in the same maniplutive ways but she wasn't that innocent herself either in it.I think she didn't do anything or at least didn't tell me about it because when she said it my impulse to it was shooting her an evil eye type thing showing the disappointment in wanting revenge and she got the idea im sure from the look change on her face.Not all pisces have that humanitarian aspect and can be more concerned with themselves,there wasn't anything he did too bad to her to deserve that crap,he basically just wanted out of the relationship because he didn't love her.He decided to break it off before resentment,cheating or anything set in so he did it out of respect for her more than anything.

hahaha how r u guyz all doin!!! hahaha jus letn n know i havnt read n e of th postz bcoz they all r long soo im sure one of u have said it.... n probly becolz of the lengths of th postz r debatin bout sumthing else becoz quite simply we all as human beings though sum of u i wonder if u really are... did we ever find out if their was an alien on here!!!—

but quite simply we all have a darker side... no matter who u are... cum on thefulla on the lord or th ringz no lord of the pigs no lost boiz—? watz th story wit pigge n simon they get lost on a island turn in2 savagesz? *darker side of manz heart—* hahaha yeaaa jus addin mi own 2centz... hahaha gona go surf!!! PEACE OUT U HOTTIES!!!

hi misty
hope life is rocking and happy for you down under

everyone has darkside we can all feel anger, greed, selfishness, pure hate, etc. It just depends on how you act upon these feelings. Who hasnt used guilt to make someone do something or to get your own way— Pisces feeling like victims? i think a lot of people feel that way. I felt like that when i was in my abusive relationship that trapped feeling of no way out, But I wised up and just took control of my life and felt being alone was better than living life that way, Id rather go with out things than live with some nutcase. Ive ripped him apart to everyone is that wrong— I felt i wanted everyone to know what he was and what he did.

I think there are positively and negatively aspected pisceans, as there are with every sign.

Some of the negatively aspected pisceans i have encountered have been manipulative to the point of scamming around me to get into bed with me when i am apparently at a low moment, have tried to embezzle our family inheritance, and my brother currently plays poker on the internet and stole $ 5,000 off my dad to get himself started. Oh yeah, and my aunty is a money-grabbing alcoholic, who is extrememly psychologically abusive of her daughter (she calls her a b*tch). Aunty no. 2, who is also a piscean is up to husband No. 3, after sending husband no. 2 insane.

The more positively aspected pisceans achieve great things like opening their own businesses, moving out of the ghetto to work in the most prestigious businesses in their industry, and are just plain nice people.

So, my opinion of pisces hasn't changed. I generally like them, but when i see one that is going downhill, i stay right away.

"Who hasnt used guilt to make someone do something or to get your own way— "

I haven't,I say it how it is.Plus see it as only a cheap way to get what you want,when you use guilt it's because they feel guilty NOT because they want to do it and therefore that person isn't worth my time.

" Pisces feeling like victims?"

Reword that,pisces ACTING like they are victems when they aren't.

"Ive ripped him apart to everyone is that wrong—"

No,your talking about domestic abuse,im talking about a pisces who just had her little heart broken so she thought she had the right to interfere with his life after that and yes that is wrong.

Im stubborn,greedy,overly defensive and abit lazy sometimes so no,some of the people here aren't thinking like thier sh/t don't stink when refering to certain pisces.😉