Double Pisces and mimicing

I am in a close relationship/friend with benefits type situation with a Pisces Sun/Pisces Moon man. He is very dominant in his professional life, but seems to be emotionally submissive to women that he is in a relationship with. I feel like I am dating my clone. He will use the same phrases and language I will, and feel the same way I will. Examples:

"I missed you" "I missed you too"
"I liked sex with you" "I liked sex with you as well"
"I can't do this; let's be friends" "I can't do this either, let's be friends"
"Cheers" "Cheers"

Sometimes he will use phrases and words that I used a month or two ago. E.g., "I liked sleeping with you. It felt natural."
He echoed it a month later.

Is this a common trait among Pisces sun/moon people? Are they emotionally submissive in relationships with women?
I feel like he is mirroring my every mood and as if I am dating my own clone.#

I haven't said I love you to him yet, but I plan to, just to see if he'll say it back.

Does this guy lack a personality or is he simply lying and manipulating me?

Well, I've known a few Pisces men and I don't think he lacks in personality. Nor do I believe that he's trying to manipulate you, it may just be that he's saying what he thinks he needs to say to make you want him, or to make you happy. However I'd assume in your time with him you've had intimate conversations? Does he ever differ from your point of view, or say anything that would separate him as a person from you? The mimicking may be annoying to you, but perhaps it's not a bad thing. If you look at it, putting all the possibilities for ulterior motives aside- perhaps he just feels the same about you as you do about him.
"I haven't said I love you to him yet, but I plan to, just to see if he'll say it back."
Please don't do this. Don't just say I love you to test him, that may not turn out the way you think it will 😢. Whether your intentions are wrong or not, that -is- manipulation. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if someone confessed their love to you as a mere test.

Posted by MeowScorpii
Well, I've known a few Pisces men and I don't think he lacks in personality. Nor do I believe that he's trying to manipulate you, it may just be that he's saying what he thinks he needs to say to make you want him, or to make you happy. However I'd assume in your time with him you've had intimate conversations? Does he ever differ from your point of view, or say anything that would separate him as a person from you? The mimicking may be annoying to you, but perhaps it's not a bad thing. If you look at it, putting all the possibilities for ulterior motives aside- perhaps he just feels the same about you as you do about him.
"I haven't said I love you to him yet, but I plan to, just to see if he'll say it back."
Please don't do this. Don't just say I love you to test him, that may not turn out the way you think it will 😢. Whether your intentions are wrong or not, that -is- manipulation. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if someone confessed their love to you as a mere test.

I think you may be right. He does try to make me happy and is accommodating most of the time. He has said that he likes to make other people happy. When we have intimate conversations, he tries to solve my problem and make me happy. But I have to be very verbal with him in how I am feeling, or otherwise he doesn't know what to say or do.

The mimicing has increased a lot lately, but recently I told him that I couldn't be friends because he was too busy with other commitments, and he agreed, even using my own words back. I feel bad now and asked to speak with him soon. He agreed. Should I tell him that I was too emotional and wasn't thinking properly when I said we couldn't be friends anymore?

You would probably get a lot less mimicking if you were more clear on where you stood.

You dance around in the grey, so he dances with you. If you choose black, and he feels white.... chances are he won't say black. He will either remain in the grey, or say white.

I'd be willing to bet he won't mimic when something comes up that you are solid on, and he feels differently than you on. But when you are in the grey areas - it's easy to just go with the flow as a fish.

What do you mean by less clear by where I stand? Two months ago he said he liked me and desired me but was not in love with me. Frankly, I felt the same about him. But recently I've developed feelings for him, and I see that he has been mimicking me more than ever. So if I tell him I've developed feelings, I expect that this would probably wake up his own feelings eventually.

You suspect... so what's the hold up?

Posted by deezie
You suspect... so what's the hold up?

Well, it's not easy. And judging by his previous record, it will probably take him a while to think about this and tell me how he feels.

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I think you may be right. He does try to make me happy and is accommodating most of the time. He has said that he likes to make other people happy. When we have intimate conversations, he tries to solve my problem and make me happy. But I have to be very verbal with him in how I am feeling, or otherwise he doesn't know what to say or do.

The mimicing has increased a lot lately, but recently I told him that I couldn't be friends because he was too busy with other commitments, and he agreed, even using my own words back. I feel bad now and asked to speak with him soon. He agreed. Should I tell him that I was too emotional and wasn't thinking properly when I said we couldn't be friends anymore?

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Hmm, he sounds like a genuine people pleaser..which can be a good, bad, and possibly confusing attribute. Perhaps you should tell him that, if you really feel that you still want him in your life and if he benefits your personal well-being and happiness. Maybe even bring up what's on your mind and be straight forward with it? In a way that doesn't sound to judgmental, perhaps something along the lines of "You don't always have to do or say whatever you think will make me happy, never be afraid to tell me what you really think."
It sounds like as of right now he's very wishy washy, leaving your life when you want him to, and coming back into it with a simple snap of your fingers. What I would do is get to the bottom of it and find out what -he- really wants without any sway of opinion, from there only can you two move forward. 🙂

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I think you may be right. He does try to make me happy and is accommodating most of the time. He has said that he likes to make other people happy. When we have intimate conversations, he tries to solve my problem and make me happy. But I have to be very verbal with him in how I am feeling, or otherwise he doesn't know what to say or do.

The mimicing has increased a lot lately, but recently I told him that I couldn't be friends because he was too busy with other commitments, and he agreed, even using my own words back. I feel bad now and asked to speak with him soon. He agreed. Should I tell him that I was too emotional and wasn't thinking properly when I said we couldn't be friends anymore?

Hmm, he sounds like a genuine people pleaser..which can be a good, bad, and possibly confusing attribute. Perhaps you should tell him that, if you really feel that you still want him in your life and if he benefits your personal well-being and happiness. Maybe even bring up what's on your mind and be straight forward with it? In a way that doesn't sound to judgmental, perhaps something along the lines of "You don't always have to do or say whatever you think will make me happy, never be afraid to tell me what you really think."
It sounds like as of right now he's very wishy washy, leaving your life when you want him to, and coming back into it with a simple snap of your fingers. What I would do is get to the bottom of it and find out what -he- really wants without any sway of opinion, from there only can you two move forward. 🙂

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Wow, you are really good. This is exactly what he is! A confusing people pleaser. If, however, he leaves when I want and comes back with the snap of my fingers, doesn't that imply that he must have some type of feelings for me? He's said to me in the past that his emotional life is messy but also that he isn't good about displaying emotions and doesn't often recognize them. Does he want someone else to instill emotions in him, or at least to make him think about his own?

Yes, it may imply that he has strong feelings- but it may also reveal that he doesn't exactly know what he wants. Usually when people feel an emotional connection, they become protective and try to hold onto it when there's a possibility of it ending. So he may be the type of person who feels things quite deeply but has a hard time defining his own emotions.

"Does he want someone else to instill emotions in him, or at least to make him think about his own?"

I think he needs someone to make him think about his own emotions and differentiate them from those around him. You could help him with this by being straight forward about it. I feel like if you tell him what you think before you ask him how he feels, he will immediately sway his opinions to match yours- that's probably just second nature to him by now. So, wait until after you ask him how he really feels to tell him how you feel- that way he can't be a copy cat . This is a great opportunity for you to be a catalyst!

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Yes, it may imply that he has strong feelings- but it may also reveal that he doesn't exactly know what he wants. Usually when people feel an emotional connection, they become protective and try to hold onto it when there's a possibility of it ending. So he may be the type of person who feels things quite deeply but has a hard time defining his own emotions.

"Does he want someone else to instill emotions in him, or at least to make him think about his own?"

I think he needs someone to make him think about his own emotions and differentiate them from those around him. You could help him with this by being straight forward about it. I feel like if you tell him what you think before you ask him how he feels, he will immediately sway his opinions to match yours- that's probably just second nature to him by now. So, wait until after you ask him how he really feels to tell him how you feel- that way he can't be a copy cat . This is a great opportunity for you to be a catalyst!

You're right once again! How do you know so much about this guy? It's as if you can read his mind.
I should say that this guy is an intellectual, a thinker, and as he said himself he is terrible at expressing emotions and probably doesn't know what he is feeling.

OK, next time we speak I think I will tell him that I'm getting strong feelings about him. Let him now I need him.

Posted by MeowScorpii
Yes, it may imply that he has strong feelings- but it may also reveal that he doesn't exactly know what he wants. Usually when people feel an emotional connection, they become protective and try to hold onto it when there's a possibility of it ending. So he may be the type of person who feels things quite deeply but has a hard time defining his own emotions.

Probably the latter. But I still find it strange that someone can feel things deeply but have a hard time defining his emotions. Granted, I'm not very good with that sort of thing myself.

He broke up with his ex and told her that he needed some time to sort out his feeling for the previous ex, who he was not over and who happened to be in town. Go figure!

Well, honestly, I say the same things as other people because I don't care for the conversation. My bf says 'I love you' and other emotional things quite often, so I just automatically say the same thing back so that maybe it won't turn into a discussion in which he's asking me exactly why I feel that way...cause let me just say, that's annoying as shit. I don't like explaining how I feel since he already knows. So he's just fishing for answers he already knows to make himself feel better. I hate it, so I don't indulge. For times when I don't hate it, I still just automatically say the same thing back, because once again, I don't care for the conversation and saying the same thing back would usually make a person happy easily while kind of killing the convo.

That's just my view as a Pisces sun/moon, anyway.

I wrote this long response and I lost it because DXP is being a douche.

So the jist of it is... pisces mirror people, you saying that you are going to test him by saying you love him is complete and utter bull-butter and if you play that game, I hope karma bites you in the arse. Him saying the same thing as you or picking up your phrases or feeling like you are dating your clone is abnormal for pisces men... especially if you guys have a really close relationship or connection. The pisces I am dating and I say the same thing at the same time or take each others words all the time.

I think as a pisces sun and moon the world becomes such a stage for you. the extreme talent here is being able to mold so well to another's design that the possibilities of "who you can be" become seemingly infinite. we're ourselves & then suddenly we're just like you and that's why pisces is so adept at getting along with people... a double pisces at that needs no logical reason to become someone else, if only just for self-exploration. pisces discovers human nature by seeing through others & by becoming them in a way, so think of wearing another person's shoes. it's all of great value for empathy, but finding your true self can be a bit challenging.

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I think as a pisces sun and moon the world becomes such a stage for you. the extreme talent here is being able to mold so well to another's design that the possibilities of "who you can be" become seemingly infinite. we're ourselves & then suddenly we're just like you and that's why pisces is so adept at getting along with people... a double pisces at that needs no logical reason to become someone else, if only just for self-exploration. pisces discovers human nature by seeing through others & by becoming them in a way, so think of wearing another person's shoes. it's all of great value for empathy, but finding your true self can be a bit challenging.

But how do you know if Pisces is mimicking you because he is in love with you or doing mimicking you as he does other people? Wouldn't that imply that a Pisces has feelings for everyone he mimicks, and for not one person? Meaning, he can't fall completely in love with one?

Posted by deezie
You would probably get a lot less mimicking if you were more clear on where you stood.

+1 🙂

--Jack

Pisces is highly reflective, like water. When we're unsure of ourselves or uncomfortable, or indecisive, it can be a very bad habit to look into people's minds and say what we think they want to hear. This happens especially in relationships that just aren't a good fit - we won't feel we have enough room to swim around and be ourselves, and so, we'll just go with the flow, which means, go with the other person's feelings and desires, and seek to keep them satisfied.
It's not a horrible trait but it IS the mark of an unhealthy Pisces who needs to find themselves first. But, some relationships will prevent the Pisces' natural ability to do this, so they need to quit those relationships. If the other person has too strong of a personality or is dominant, that will inhibit a Pisces. It won't work. A healthy Pisces will seek an equal.

Does this double Pisces have Virgo in Mercury, Mars, Venus or rising?

I know a few Virgos who do what you are describing. Just wondering.

Posted by LetltB
Does this double Pisces have Virgo in Mercury, Mars, Venus or rising?

I know a few Virgos who do what you are describing. Just wondering.

Pisces with Merc in Virgo is impossible no?