My mind saying, GO..but, My heart is saying, STAY

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Hello All, I'm a long time reader of this dxp and have learned a great deal reading other people stories, but now I have one of my own that I'm struggling on what to do. I hope I can receive some sound advice on my situation so, here goes. Last Sunday my boyfriend of 8 months was caught red handed with another woman at his place. A little background story. During the hurricane, we both were without power so, we stayed at my place until his power was restored and went there were I stayed for about a week. On the day of the storm, his mother was taken to the hospital. Also during this time his job responsibilities picked up which caused him to work longer hours so, when he realized ( longer hours) was going to go on for about a 2-3 weeks, he asked for my support and understanding. I said, sure, no problem. In the midst of the week, we had some minor bickering over how things were being said to each other, blah, blah, blah...nothing that I thought was that serious. I thought I was being understanding and supportive when I cleaned his place, prepared his plate when he arrived home, and tried not to talk too much (I'm a talker and need clarity on a lot in which he dislike). Anyway, last Tuesday, his mom had test done to gather some results on her illness and also Tuesday night my power was back on, but he wanted me to stay at this place with him so, I didnt go home. That night was weird tho. I arrived at his place around 8:30 and when I got there in was in the bed already. By the time I finished eating dinner and making my way back to the bedroom the TV was off (9:30pm). I'm thinking WTF? I asked him, if truning the TV on would bother him because I wanted to watch the election, he said, "no" so I did. I must've fallen asleep because I was woken up by him yelling to turn the TV off around 12am. I guess he was woken up by the hoopla surrounding Obama's victory. I was taken aback by why was he yelling as if I was up and heard the TV and ignored the volume. The next morning, I asked him why were you yelling and he said, I guess I can add to the list that I'm a controlling bully too. I thought, "huh" and just left it alone. Didn't have the energy to entertain. Wednesday, we spoke very little throughout the day which it has been since work has picked up. So that afternoon I texted him and asked, " Hey Babe, how's it going? How's your mom doing?" around 4:00 not response. So around 6pm he calls but never address the text, but said he was going ot the hospital to see
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So around 6pm he calls but never address the text, but said he was going ot the hospital to see his mom. He calls once he leave to say, he was going home and didnt feel like coming to my place. I felt some kind of way and said okay, good night. He texted back a hour later saying, "I know me coming over there would've saved a beef but babe I'm very tired. Please try to understand. GN I love you." I never responded. The next day around 11 I called to chat for a few, but never mentioned or showed I was upset. Around 6pm we chatted for a few prior to me going to class and him going to the hospital. By the time I got out of class and called him , his tone had changed, he sounded very exhausted. He was at his cousin's and wanted to get something to eat. He meet me at my placed and I made a joke...ahh, look at you, you work so hard today, I'll drive. He smiled and I thought it was cool. No harm no foul. We didnt chat all the way to the food & brought it back to my place. He took a shower, ate, looked thought a magazine..silence. I'm thinking...what's up with him. Now, I still moving around doing my nightly thing. I needed help with my smoke detector, but felt like him nor my son wanted to help me which I then got a little upset. I said, I work 2 jobs, go to school, and keep things running around here....so why is everyone else so damn tired. He overheard this from upstairs. I later went upstairs and said to him, why didn't you assist me. He said, what's wrong with you while his back was to me and I just walked out the room. Now, it brings us to Friday morning...with the shoulder tap. Cool...I was with it, but I could tell something was on his mind. I asked, what's wrong, and he said nothing. I left if along for a minute and then asked again, he then got upset and yelled, "you keep asking me "what's wrong" is the problem. I was immediately caught off guard because I was concern. He got dress, gave me a kiss, and left for work. He called me at 9:50am, I returned his call at 10:10am no answer & he never called back. That evening I met up with a few friends and my cousin to celebrate her bday. Around 8:30pm I called him and I couldn't hear him so I texted, "Hey, wyd?". He replied, are you out partying? I said, you didnt answer me. He said, "Nothin. Can you answer me." I said, "Yes. It's .... bday." I knew I was leaving at 9pm so, when I left I called him...no answer. I went by his place...not there. I called back again, he didnt pick up. I text...call me
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I'm now thinking, WTF? So, now my mind is racing, is his mom, okay? I just went home. So, Saturday morning, I go to work as usual. When 10:00 hit and I still didnt hear from him, I thought somethings up. This is totally not like him. I took matters into my own hands and called the hospital to check on his mom. The nurse gave me the number, but she wasnt picking up. I called back & had the nures check her and when he came back he said she is having a procedure done and it's not good and to come or call back in two hours. My heart dropped. I immediately called him. He picked up and I told him I just called the hospital to talk with your mom and explained what the nurse said, he said, I'm aware. I get updates while I'm at work. My sister is there. I said, oh, okay. I said, is everything okay? I feel like someting wrong. He said, it's alot I have to fill you in on, but I cant talk right now. We hung up. I called back two hours later like the nurse said, and then I was informed she was taken to ICU. I called him back and told him, I was going to the hospital to see her after I get off work. I was supposed to work a double,but I wasn't going to stay. He said, well my sister and I have decided for her not to have any visitors just him , his sister and his aunt. They wanther to get her rest. I respected that, but decided to still not stay at work and go home to be with him. I picked up his keys and went to his place and cooked dinner. By the time he go there...the table was set, candles lit, and I must say, I was looking HOT!. So when he came in he say, you look so sexy and this is really nice. He hugged and kiss me and then took a shower. We sat down and begin eating. He asked, why do you think I wasn't answering your calls? Why do you think I was mad at you? I said, because I was out and I didnt mentioned it to you. He looked at me and shook his head and said, let's drop it and just eat. We will revisit it later. We joked a little, listen to music, and when a song came on about "mother"s" he broke down. I comfort him. He didnt talk and i didnt ask questions. He asked, did you have "fun" last night? I said, he was cool. He said, as long as you had, "fun". I'm thinkin...okay. I see where this is going. He appeared to become happy, angry, and sad alot thru out the night. Oh, I forgot to mentioned, by the time he got home, it was apparent he had been drinking. So, after his second drink that I made him, he was ready for the bed. He was out went his head hit t
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He was out went his head hit the pillow. I shortly followed him. Sunday, I had to be at work at 7am and he too. However, I seen in his eyes,,,something just wasnt right. Although we had a decent night...something still was lurking around in his head. off to work I go, At 12:00pm he sends a text that say, "Thx". I replied, " You're welcome, Babe! 🙂 And, later I sent, "Have you in my thougths and prayers. Hope you're having a peaceful day". He responded two hours later, " Thx again🙂 " . Hmmmm, okay, Short, for him, but np. I sends him at text at 6:30pm ( now I'm off from work) saying," Babe, how's your mom feeling today?" BTW...I'm home. Nothing...so around 9:30 I call, no answer. I was thinking...just give him space. BUT, then after jumping out of the shower and thinking my boots are at his place that I wanted to wear tomorrow. Let me just go there and see if he's home. He's good for leaving his phone in another room of the house. So, I get here, parked and called ( bells broke) no answer. So, I tap on his window. Nothing...so I'm thinking he is probably sleep.So, I tap a little harder. As I was distracted by a noise and went to check it out...I hear this door open. As I'm walking towards him, I'm thinking why is he on the porch in a sweater. When I reach him, I'm like what's up. And he said, this is not good. I'm like what...he said there is a woman in my house. WHOA! What did you just say? He repeated himself. He said I make a dump mistake. I said, really? But, answer me this? Why the hell am I standing outside and she's in the warm house? I said, who should be leaving me or her. He said, she should. Then we walked in and she was sitting on her bed. I walked into the kitchen and I heard her saying why do I have to leave? I then walked into the room and said, did you know he had a girlfriend , she said no. I said, well, I sorry he didnt inform you on that...I guess it's not your fault. She left...I began looking for my boots, not where I left them. I went into the bathroom for my hair products...gone. I said to him, you hid my shit? I started packing my shit...I was done! He started asking me if it was over and please forgive him. I said, save that shit for the next one. He said and you listen when your next man speak. WTF? He then say, hell with the next man...when I speak. Really, so this is all my fault? What the hell didnt I listen to? He said, I asked for understanding and
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He said, I asked for understanding and support...and I felt like you didnt give it to me. Huh? He said, —you have no idea how it felt to know my girl is out partying while I watch my mom lay in the hospital bed. This past week we bickered after I gave you the disclaimer I was going to need our support. Then with my mom in the hospital and work, it was just too much. I didn't feel comfortable talking to you because I felt I was going to be misunderstood (Pisces butter) so, I didn't say anything.?? I don't think this justify cheating??_no matter how you slice it. He asking me not to leave him and allow him to make it right. Saying, — he had poor judgment of inviting her. He let his emotional state influence a dump action.?? When I do take his calls, it's just me rehashing what happened and asking questions. I beat him up a lot??_I do feel bad knowing his mom is really sick and that he's going through a lot, but I'm hurt too. I'm torn whether to leave now or say. My mind is saying if I stay, I just cosigned more of this to come. My heart is saying, his man is in pain. Any advice, readers?

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Posted by AquaRN
Last Sunday my boyfriend of 8 months was caught red handed with another woman at his place.



FIVE posts to say what should have been one line. Hmm.. you have a Pisces (or maybe Aqua) Mercury, don't you?

Seriously.. the rest of the background info is absolutely irrelevant. It doesn't explain NOR justify what just happened.

So now the only RELEVANT thing is.. what are you gonna DO about it?

Are you OKAY with him cheating? Then stay with him.

Are you NOT OKAY with him cheating? Then put on your big girl panties and walk away.

His lack of honor/commitment has been revealed.. will your lack of pride/dignity also be revealed? Up to you.
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@aquarn.

My advice. You have to ask yourself 3 questions and be completely honest with yourself and don't concern yourself with how others will view your decision.

First, taking this current dilemma out of the equation, do you love him and did you see a future with him prior to this?

Second, some Pisces male, when overwhelmed with very emotional circumstances, will not think clearly and will
need their "rock" to cling to in order to gather strength. If for some reason that "rock" isn't available, that adds more to an already stressful situation and in turn some
Pisces well seek a "substitute " because they can't or choose not to deal with traumatic events alone. I don't condone what he did but I do
understand why he did it. Even though you "felt" you where sufficiently there enough for him, he felt betrayed in a way when
his "rock" was out partying and couldn't be there when he needed you the most.

You even admit that you neglected to mention the party. Bad timing. This kinda ties into that "Pisces asking for help ". Most of the time
in the long run, its better to give the help and endure what little "attitude " we might give at the time of helping us because we will appreciate it
and in time we will remember and repay it back with interest.

And finally, can you forgive him? He showed you that you are his "rock". He put the other woman out with no
hesitation. He is remorseful and is asking for another chance. I think this relationship has a lot of promise and
great potential
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Posted by AquaRN
Thanks ladies...I realize it was too much. I will delete this thread and save everyone else of their time. 🙂



Ok earth to mermaids ......... come out of lalaland for a moment.

When someone leaves a message like that, they are in a very emotional state and are very sensitive ....

(You would think someone claiming to be a Pisces would understand that.....hmmmm)

Thank God none of you work at a crisis hotline ......Geesh .....

She mistakenly thought she would get compassion and sound advice here and not
be "judged " (deezie loves that word......ha!) because of the format of her plea for help or the content ....unfortunately she was wrong
And once she realized that she promptly hid her comments and bounced ....

I don't blame her.....

Yeah I said it..... now what?


Thought so.........Muahahahahahahaaa. 🙂
I still love you mermaids ..... but I'm a shark.......
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I'm here...they didn't drive me away. It really was an over kill tho. I've been told more than once...I over explain! LOL! I just like to give as much details so a person can understand the situation fully. BUT, the Pisces has taught me...everyone isn't built for all my verbage. He is the first man that I've dated that has told me that I OVER explain. So when deezie and Nefer came with their comment...it gave me a good chuggle! Thanks everyone for your advice!

@2Dimes...yes, I saw a future with him. I've known him for years, we just decided to date and see what came of it. Thanks for your advice.
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Hey now.. I DID read it. ALL of it.

I also asked about your Mercury, cuz I'm a Pisces Merc and I talk/type WAAAAAAAYYYY too much, with WAAAAAAAAYYY too many irrelevant details.

But truly, it all boils down to what are you going to do? It's not up to any of us to decide that for you, it's your life. Even ME, with my Cheater Cleaver at the ready NOW.. sure, I HAVE forgiven cheating (and borderline "almost" cheating.. you know, the one with possible "intent" with "flirting turned propositioning") before, let him back in cuz he was so sorry etc.. so I would NEVER presume to make that choice (stay or go?) for another. I've done both, with different results.

However, if what you wanted was to get into a discussion about the traits and faults and foibles of Pisces (men) and what could make them cheat, what kind of mindset would it take, what kind of triggers, and is it possible the cheating COULD be a "one off" thing, a moment of stupidity or weakness and never to be repeated again?

Well, if you want any or all of that, you'll have to unhide. Those that want to read it will, those that won't, won't. *shrug*

PS - I've never cut a man's dick off. In case you were wondering. And if I DID, I'm Pisces enough to leave him a phone to call 911, so he wouldn't DIE.. just remain dickless for eternity. :p
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Waiting to see if I see an Aqua Venus on that guy... or an Air Moon. Hell, even my own Aries Venus can be a real selfish bitch.. very ME-oriented and what have you done for me lately and bored/turned off so easily.. and self-justifying.. does whatever the hell she wants to, in the moment fully, damn the consequences. Yeah, she's been a real bitch to control.. glad I had the Pisces and Taurus to tame her ass and calm her down a little.
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I can completely sympathize with where your head and heart are battling.
He's going thru a tough time. You thought you were doing as he requested. He was not very good about communicating what he meant about the understanding and support. This led to some actions on your part that appear cold to him. You don't get it because you feel you are trying...
Etc etc communication problems abundant. Different style s.

Can you forgive the cheating if it was a bad decision on his part, and it would never even come close to happening again?
I think this life stuff clouded him up (as evidenced by his emo drinking night at your place). I'm not justifying unfaithfulness. But I can see believing that he wouldn't do it again. Although I think it requires some superior ultimatum on your end that if he ever does it again, he can forget he ever knew you....

Personally, I know (I'm a sucker for punishment and 19 chances) I'd give it another shot with him.
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Posted by deezie
ahhhh sweet vindication.
Thank you AquaRN 🙂

Does it help you to explain. I can totally be the same way, although I find my thoughts are generally choppy.
Do you know where your Mercury is placed?



Lmao ..... I knew you would enjoy that ...... u got lucky this time

Sorry deezie, lucky for you I was headed to work and it isn't safe to text and drive....

@AquaRN. LOL, these mermaids are very nice and mean well but they are "old heads" veterans of
this site so they have forgotten how it is to be new to a site and all the protocols and rules and regulations they
expect everyone to adhere to.

Plus, I love giving them a hard time....someone has to or they will never come "out the clouds"...
🙂

And they give me a hard time whenever they can.....
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Lol honestly ....when I first started reading AquaRN romance novel.... I was like wtf there is more.... I have to get
ready for work..... imma be late.....dammit I'm committed to it now so I have to persevere to the end lol....
Hey at least I know she knows how to cook and she was affected by "sandy" and she has a kid and has 2 jobs and goes to
school... didn't really have to know all that but it helps me to understand her....

Plus, I'm a Pisces so I could vividly image the scene of her yelling "why is everyone else tired but me!"
That was priceless ..... 🙂
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That was a bit of a read, but it wasn't teadious. I understand the need to vent and to give all of the details, when you leave things vague (on this site) people get in your arse about that. It's kind of damn if you do and damn if you don't.

Wow, I had one thing in my mind and I read what 3 dimes wrote and it makes sense about pisces needing a rock and when you aren't there we go forth and find a replacement.

Me being a pisces with a taurus moon and venus plus I have a Leo rising and mars... shite. My pisces would kick in and I would feel bad for the guy about his mom, so I would be there to help him along the way until things are resolved regarding that situation. After that point, I would throw up the double deuces and unload on that guy. Me being me I would have to cut him loose, because even though the pisces in me LOVES to give 64 chances and can be a glutton for punishment, the Taurus and Leo in me couldn't stand him even inviting a chick over (in my territory) and moving MY STUFF! HELL NO! That is strike 1-3 in one fail swoop. I couldn't trust him anymore, but that is me, that is the traits of Leo and Taurus.

So... like Nefer said, I can't tell you what to do in your own life. Only YOU can make this decision. This is YOUR life. I won't fault you either way, hell, honestly you shouldn't even care what others think, especially on this site. Do you, run your own race. Everyone has their own "red line". Did he cross it? Can you forgive him? It's up to you and only you will know.

I will say one thing though, don't be that woman who says they forgive him and then every second second guessing him and/or have him on a short leash. That will not play well with a fish, even if he didn't have intentions of doing anything you will drive him to cheat or break up. We hate being/feeling trapped.

Hell, girl! You're an aqua! Put that big analytical brain to work. Aquas can make anything happen. 🙂 No, I'm not being sarcastic... well, not this time. lol

Good luck, chickadee!
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I think this is the most non volatile topic that has to do with someone cheating that I've seen on this site.

Maybe I'm heartless, but if he can be that whiny and needy at any point in his life, whether it be something as serious as what he's going through or not, I don't think that really goes away in a person. Sure, it may be more controlled in other situations, but I feel like in the future there'd be times when you feel like you were doing a lot for him/being nice, and he expected more out of you and would be blind to that. Also, personally, if he goes as far as to cheat on you because he needs someone else, etc, then he must have low self control. Whether he be a pisces or not, if a guy did that to me, then I would think 'I obviously didn't mean that much to him', simple because I would never do that to someone I wanted to keep in my life and loved. This is just my opinion, though. If you think that all of this is a one-time/extreme situational event and you feel you can forgive him, then do it.

I honestly feel sad after reading this because it seems like you did your best for him and really wanted to be there for him, and he threw it all in your face. 😭 I'm sorry. I hope you get this all figured out and don't have to go through that again.
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my question is... through all this..

where did this woman come from? not a "stranger" who he just happened to run into. He claims to have turned to her in his time of "need"... meaning they have some type of existing relationship

and throughout this previously established relationship... she didn't know he had a girlfriend...

this is my one thought..

but My Pisces agrees with Nights..

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A couple things .....


First, I read where you stated that he cheated on you, yet, nowhere in your massive wall of text (and I read all of it) did I see where you described him actually having sex with another woman. You said he came outside wearing a sweater, and you said she was sitting on a bed, and he kept saying he was dump? (dumb!) .... but, you don't describe anything sexual.

so, I'm curious as to whether he physically cheated or if you assume he did.


Second, throughout this droning on which could have been concise in about 4 or 5 sentences ... you mention several times, or maybe more like 8 ... how everytime he does or says something you don't like or think is questionable, you ignore it to go feed him or fluff his pillows for him. And I'm unclear why you choose to blindly accept those things in which should have ticked you off.

Everything you tolerate, while not liking sets terms and conditions .... you pretty much just waltz past shit you should be stopping to say,

"hey wait a fucking minute, I fixed you a hot meal to make you feel better and to try to reduce your stress and you're going to just push past me and go to bed? I'll not be taken advantage of."

Instead, you totally ignore it, and make excuses such as, he's had a hard day or some such bullshit.

If you actively ignore his emotions, to go fluff his pillows (figuretively speaking) ... then how can you be surprised that he's confused due to your mixed signals?

You are miscommunicating with him big-time ... and you don't seem to notice.
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Posted by AquaRN

My mind is saying if I stay, I just cosigned more of this to come. My heart is saying, his man is in pain.

Any advice, readers?







Curious that we referred to as readers ... makes one think they are participating in a reading study group.


I tend to disagree with the title of this thread: My mind saying, GO..but, My heart is saying, STAY
as well as the quote above. actually it's the opposite


... for clearly your heart hurting is wanting to make you run away .. while your mind is thinking of fixing him dinner and going to fluff his pillows
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I think the issues were definely there before you caught the other woman in his house, Its funny how he has blamed you in this, with the good old... "you weren't there for me". He only has himself to blame! He had no problem reaching out to another woman, so why was it so hard to reach out to you? Are you unsympathetic and hard hearted? What about the next time you don't offer enough support? Is it ok for him to do it again? What about you, you have not had the support you desired/needed from him, so are you ok to find it in the arms of another man? Would you want to?

Things you did got on his nerves to the point of shouting at you, screams a relationship in trouble, if you can't BOTH talk about how you feel and find comfort with each other then I don't see the point. This guy is supposed to be your bestfriend and he has betrayed you in the worst possible way.

I have read about relationships that have recovered and become stronger after a partner has cheated and it would require a lot of work, from life experience I have never known a relationship to become better or recover after a partner cheated. One example was a friend who found out her partner cheated on her, she forgave him, the next year she found out he had done it again, she forgave him..... This seriously went on like that for ten years to the point where she had accepted all men cheat. They eventually broke up, but did get back together after 6 months much to my horror, but thats another novel.
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Posted by AquaRN

My mind is saying if I stay, I just cosigned more of this to come. My heart is saying, his man is in pain.

Any advice, readers?







Curious that we referred to as readers ... makes one think they are participating in a reading study group.


I tend to disagree with the title of this thread: My mind saying, GO..but, My heart is saying, STAY
as well as the quote above. actually it's the opposite


... for clearly your heart hurting is wanting to make you run away .. while your mind is thinking of fixing him dinner and going to fluff his pillows
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Lol P-angel, you have a way with words...... nothing is wrong with her cooking and fluffing his pillows .... she loves him.
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Posted by emsky333
I think the issues were definely there before you caught the other woman in his house, Its funny how he has blamed you in this, with the good old... "you weren't there for me". He only has himself to blame! He had no problem reaching out to another woman, so why was it so hard to reach out to you? Are you unsympathetic and hard hearted? What about the next time you don't offer enough support? Is it ok for him to do it again? What about you, you have not had the support you desired/needed from him, so are you ok to find it in the arms of another man? Would you want to?

Things you did got on his nerves to the point of shouting at you, screams a relationship in trouble, if you can't BOTH talk about how you feel and find comfort with each other then I don't see the point. This guy is supposed to be your bestfriend and he has betrayed you in the worst possible way.

I have read about relationships that have recovered and become stronger after a partner has cheated and it would require a lot of work, from life experience I have never known a relationship to become better or recover after a partner cheated. One example was a friend who found out her partner cheated on her, she forgave him, the next year she found out he had done it again, she forgave him..... This seriously went on like that for ten years to the point where she had accepted all men cheat. They eventually broke up, but did get back together after 6 months much to my horror, but thats another novel.



I disagree with the "he's trying to blame it all on YOU" statement. She does have to "own" some of this because as P-angel said, some of this is her doing by allowing some of this behavior to continue for he course of the relationship. Also, I don't know a single woman who would be okay with being at the hospital with a mother in ICU and tried to contact their man and he was at a "birthday party "(one he never mentioned to you) and he was too busy partying and the music was so loud that he had to text you back. I don't condone the other woman but she does have some blame here. What if his mom died while she was at a party? —....smh
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shellshocker
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@ $ 0.41... don't you think this guy already has one foot out the door?

Her way of 'being there" is not meshing with his version of "being there"... A phone call to the hospital to check up on his mother for an Aqua might equate to that.. but an Aqua would probably do that for their mechanic. Her actions said, "I'm going out to party." And maybe this is all he saw. He's told her in clear words that what he needed was support and understanding and she wasn't giving it.. in HIS definition.

Deezie mentioned on another thread about the "idealized" version of relationships versus the reality. It looks like this relationship is failing in reality from Piscean eyes. I think he's apologetic and fighting for the "ideal" because he's feeling guilty as hell and really wants(ed) it to work.

Can she suddenly change her style of being, which is not wrong but different, and give this guy the emotional support and understanding he requires? He's been trying to get those needs met elsewhere it seems, ... which I don't condone.

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Thanks everyone for your comments. No, she was a friend from his past. Actually ( which could mean a hill of beans) she said, I didnt know he had a girlfriend (in front of him) and we are only good friends, I've known him for years.

Wait, P-Angel, I think you got lost somewhere in reading my novel(lol) that I tolerated this for he duration of the relationship. HELL NO! I wish he could read this and he would definitely tell you otherwise! He hates that I check him on the slight thing! But, I started studying his behavoir after the yelling incident Tuesday night until Sunday morning. Which allowed me to be a little more tolerable to his butter. My intuition told me something was up and she was right! I just couldn't put my finger on it. I do think he chatted with her before Sunday...for sure. How long, who knows...

Here are our charts...

Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Time unknown
Sun Pisces 24.27
Moon Aries 23.57
Mercury Aquarius 28.54
Venus Aries 24.51
Mars Aquarius 9.23
Jupiter Pisces 29.16
Saturn Cancer 11.56
Uranus Scorpio 1.51 R
Neptune Sagittarius 11.48 R
Pluto Libra 8.17 R
Lilith Pisces 4.17
Asc node Sagittarius 3.48



Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Time unknown
Sun Aquarius 10.24
Moon Taurus 2.19
Mercury Aquarius 24.45
Venus Capricorn 29.33 R
Mars Taurus 15.25
Jupiter Aquarius 21.14
Saturn Gemini 28.30 R
Uranus Libra 27.46
Neptune Sagittarius 9.10
Pluto Libra 6.42 R
Lilith Capricorn 18.43
Asc node Sagittarius 27.52

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