TUFFIE RE: PISCES/VIRGO RELATIONSHIPS

Tuffie,
thanks for responding to my question. It helped a lot.
Now... I am going to tell you some things that will hurt but only the truth can set you free.

This Virgo that you are seeing is absolute butter. He seems to be one of those Virgos that is completely self centered and self involved. He doesn't love anything but himself. This may be due to issues of self-esteem or sexual orientation issues or whatever, but the point is, this virgo is incapable of feeling love or he does not define love the same way you do.

Right now, you are an instrument to him, something that he can use and toss around to fulfill his temporary need, for example, he may call you when he needs someone to talk to, or if he needs physical affection he will call you or if he needs money he will call you, meanwhile... he can'e start a sentence without the words "I need blah, blah, blah,

So... while you like this guy and he may have some or even many of the qualities you are looking for, but you know what, he sees himself as crap and he will only continue to treat you like crap and drag you down with him. You have to understand that 99% of the time human behavior never changes, so you can be this guy's savior until you are 80 and he will never give you the relationship that you are looking for ar deserve because his issues have been there for multiple years and no matter how much you think you understand him or can fix him, you cna't because you can't reverse years and years of him living the way he does.

So... there is a guy out there who has everything that you're looking for PLUS he will be everything the virgo is not, and he will treat you the way the virgo will never treat you. You need to work on yourself and I swear to GOD when you honestly do that, the man that you are trying to find will find you. I promise.

But the major issue is you self image, you obviously have low self esteem and you put up with this mothertreetrunker's butter ! why ? why do you see yourself in such a bad way. Think about it, if you had a best girl firend that told you the exact same situation, you would think she is crazy for letting herself be spiritually and emotionally battered and abused, so why do you let it ?
An analogy, its like you are at a bonfire and its too hot sitting next to the fire but yet you sit there and get burned, why ? why punish yourself like this.
And don't do what most women do which is become bitter and say I hate men this I hate men that, men are dogs etc. because the thing is, you chooose men that are dogs, you sit there and let men treat you like a consolation prize and you put up with it, so the problem isn't this virgo, I mean forget him, he is not a man, he is an adolescent with the emotional maturity of a teenager and everyday you are losing more and more of your life waiting for this scum to come around.

So, first, drop the loser, there are men out there who are waiting for you, good men but...

second, God will never let them come into your life because he knows you are not ready. You need to regain your self confidence, go out there and meet good men who will treat you like a woman they love, and stop letting men use you. Let me say that again, STOP LETTING MEN USE YOU !!!!!.

Hope that helps, but I still have pisces questions...

What are some obvious and definite signs that a pisces will give a virgo male to let him know she is interested ?
example, what if she mentions a movie that both of us have said that we wanted to see or what if she says things like "we are so similar" ?
So what are some things that pisces women do to tell a virgo man she is interested in going on a date

I posted a response earlier, but I will also post one here. I know this Virgo is not good for me, but I can't seem to get rid of him "permanently". If I tell him I don't want anymore to do with him, he thinks I'm just joking around and will say, "you know you don't mean that" and give me "the LOOK". Our seperation usually lasts for several months until he comes back telling some kind of story. He has these sad puppy dog looks which melts my heart and there I go, being a sucker again.

This difference this time is that the seperation has lasted longer that he expected (eight months)and he is still trying to come back. I won't let him and he's angry and even more persistant. He will have different members of his family call my house several times a day (I don't even answer the phone anymore), speaking with an angry voice if he sees me, trying to get closer to my kids by saying he misses them and thinks about them. He knows I'm upset, because I have my "off" switch on (see the other post for explanation of that statement).

He's hurt me consistantly throughout the several years I have known him, even to the point of bringing his ex to a party that he knew I was gonna be at as well. He asked everyday was I coming to this party. He knew what was gonna happen, but unfortunately, I was the unsuspecting victim. Once his relative told me that he was thinking about hooking back up with her, I felt like the "monkey's uncle". He was up under her the entire time and it was too much to deal with so I left. It freaked me out when he got upset when another man came to visit me. He made it very clear that he didn't appreciate any male visitors coming to see me.

We've talked about being intimate and it was like he froze up and said things like, "what if it doesn't work out?" or "all you think about is sex?" We were playing and nudging each other for what seemed like only a second, but I touched him on his rear and he nearly jumped out of his skin and said if I ever do that again, he's never coming over my house again. Whaaaaaaaat? That blew me away.

I don't know why I accept this kind of treatment from him or any other loser that has wandered into my life. Once I see that they are creating unwanted drama in my life, I turn the "off" switch on and hope that they'll eventually get the big picture, see that nobody's home anymore and go away. In this one's case, he's not getting the message, because that "off" switch has been off since the beginning of the year.

What can I do to make him see and believe that he has used me up completely and he needs to move on?

Tuffie

P.S. what other kind of love is there? Taking off your shoes and socks and walking in the sand barefoot along the shores of the beach on a mildly warm summer's night, or sitting in a swing or on a green blanket of grass on a clear and warm summer night watching the stars dance above your heads, or even listening to some beautiful music and invisioning yourself somewhere else and discussing the details of that adventure. None of that involves a lingering need for sex, only a pure heart that's waiting to express the love it feels deep inside. What other kind of love would a Virgo feel?