Lovicide- Double sided fish strikes again

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First off I suck at love and I always neglect my brain for the sake of a controlled fantasy.

So I’ve been talking this girl romantically for like 2.5 months and it’s been shaky. We’ve had intense moments with just as many mundane ones. We went on a date toward the end of March after I heard she was gonna ask me out, even though my Taurus Mars and other Earth energy was slowly sizing her up. Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other. We only went on one date then it went slightly cold then I “ turned up the heat” a couple weeks later. Then things got more romantic as well as physical that was going on 3 weeks ago no more than that. But this whole last week she’s run through my mind constantly it’s the thought of her and unfinished business.



On the flip side we have maintained communication online text and call but at slower rates (I’m hoping it’s the retrograde and not something bigger). We saw each other yesterday for the first time in like a week or so and things seemed normal and we shared a moment of kissing. Texted her a song and no response. That’s not abnormal from her though. But I’m coming to a fork in a rode that I cannot think about her so much if I’m not getting the same effort back. In some senses especially this week I’ve been more needy. Which is dangerous. Plus I did something I never did for any female we’ll get to that later though.



I’m a Cap and she’s a double sided fish I alway fall for for the water hard. Can anybody point me in the right direction
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This is probably not going to be of much help, but it seems to me you simply need more time to figure out if this is for you or not. Don't know if this is a cap thing, but I'd not like to feel alone in my efforts either. Has she initiated anything since the presumed thought of asking you out?



She asks me what I’m doing and moreover a few weeks ago what what my plans were. I was coy and seduced her. I think we just communicate different hence we both have Mars Square Mercury Synastry from both partners.
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This is probably not going to be of much help, but it seems to me you simply need more time to figure out if this is for you or not. Don't know if this is a cap thing, but I'd not like to feel alone in my efforts either. Has she initiated anything since the presumed thought of asking you out?

She asks me what I’m doing and moreover a few weeks ago what what my plans were. I was coy and seduced her. I think we just communicate different hence we both have Mars Square Mercury Synastry from both partners.
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So, a few weeks ago, she asked you what your plans were and now, every now and then, she asks what you're doing? Are these phonecalls or texts or facetime? Not sure I get it.
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Are the two of you dating...? 🙂

Your little story gives me on/off, take it or leave it vibes. What are you expecting from her, and not getting? Have you thought of leading by example?


It is on off it’s in a mixed signal stage because I made a supreme gesture of getting her a gift. Not logically but the idea of what can be. I want her to be a more consistent and clearer communicator mostly.
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This is probably not going to be of much help, but it seems to me you simply need more time to figure out if this is for you or not. Don't know if this is a cap thing, but I'd not like to feel alone in my efforts either. Has she initiated anything since the presumed thought of asking you out?

She asks me what I’m doing and moreover a few weeks ago what what my plans were. I was coy and seduced her. I think we just communicate different hence we both have Mars Square Mercury Synastry from both partners.

So, a few weeks ago, she asked you what your plans were and now, every now and then, she asks what you're doing? Are these phonecalls or texts or facetime. Not sure I get it.
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Mostly texts phone convos are businessy and short. Mostly on my end.
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This is probably not going to be of much help, but it seems to me you simply need more time to figure out if this is for you or not. Don't know if this is a cap thing, but I'd not like to feel alone in my efforts either. Has she initiated anything since the presumed thought of asking you out?

She asks me what I’m doing and moreover a few weeks ago what what my plans were. I was coy and seduced her. I think we just communicate different hence we both have Mars Square Mercury Synastry from both partners.

So, a few weeks ago, she asked you what your plans were and now, every now and then, she asks what you're doing? Are these phonecalls or texts or facetime. Not sure I get it.

Mostly texts phone convos are businessy and short. Mostly on my end.
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That feeling of "unfinished business," could that be you just wanting closure in whichever direction it may be? Do you really want this? Must admit, you don't seem all that excited. Am I wrong?
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Are the two of you dating...? 🙂

Your little story gives me on/off, take it or leave it vibes. What are you expecting from her, and not getting? Have you thought of leading by example?

It is on off it’s in a mixed signal stage because I made a supreme gesture of getting her a gift. Not logically but the idea of what can be. I want her to be a more consistent and clearer communicator mostly.
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Good. I’m sure she expects the same of you! What was so “supreme” about giving her a gift?
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This is probably not going to be of much help, but it seems to me you simply need more time to figure out if this is for you or not. Don't know if this is a cap thing, but I'd not like to feel alone in my efforts either. Has she initiated anything since the presumed thought of asking you out?

She asks me what I’m doing and moreover a few weeks ago what what my plans were. I was coy and seduced her. I think we just communicate different hence we both have Mars Square Mercury Synastry from both partners.

So, a few weeks ago, she asked you what your plans were and now, every now and then, she asks what you're doing? Are these phonecalls or texts or facetime. Not sure I get it.

Mostly texts phone convos are businessy and short. Mostly on my end.

That feeling of "unfinished business," could that be you just wanting closure in whichever direction it may be? Do you really want this? Must admit, you don't seem all that excited. Am I wrong?
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I am just a little frustrated recently
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Posted by HappyCapper

This is probably not going to be of much help, but it seems to me you simply need more time to figure out if this is for you or not. Don't know if this is a cap thing, but I'd not like to feel alone in my efforts either. Has she initiated anything since the presumed thought of asking you out?

She asks me what I’m doing and moreover a few weeks ago what what my plans were. I was coy and seduced her. I think we just communicate different hence we both have Mars Square Mercury Synastry from both partners.

So, a few weeks ago, she asked you what your plans were and now, every now and then, she asks what you're doing? Are these phonecalls or texts or facetime. Not sure I get it.

Mostly texts phone convos are businessy and short. Mostly on my end.

That feeling of "unfinished business," could that be you just wanting closure in whichever direction it may be? Do you really want this? Must admit, you don't seem all that excited. Am I wrong?

I am just a little frustrated recently
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In general or with the relationship? Well, if you are excited and really want this, then a little frustration seems like something you could manage for the time being, but if you feel so frustrated that you are starting to lose hope, and that after 2,5months, then I honestly don't see the point, since she's not likely to change communication style any time soon. I'm not sure I get how you really feel about this girl underneath the frustration, though, so I could be completely wrong.

What does her natal merc look like? Sign, house and aspects?
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Are the two of you dating...? 🙂

Your little story gives me on/off, take it or leave it vibes. What are you expecting from her, and not getting? Have you thought of leading by example?

It is on off it’s in a mixed signal stage because I made a supreme gesture of getting her a gift. Not logically but the idea of what can be. I want her to be a more consistent and clearer communicator mostly.

Good. I’m sure she expects the same of you! What was so “supreme” about giving her a gift?
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She showed it off online but more importantly it was me taking a step forward and leaving myself vulnerable.
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What´s up with hot-n-cold game here? "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other. We only went on one date then it went slightly cold then I “ turned up the heat” a couple weeks later.". Especially this part: "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her", - you are dating a telepath? Nice. I read the part mentioning the gift and so? If no one said "official", the gift can mean anything. I am amazed sometimes how guys overthink things and still arrive to wrong conclusions. You kissed a girl and texted a song? And why did not you ask her how is she doing? Honestly, if I kiss a guy and he follows up with sending a song, I would not reply either.
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What´s up with hot-n-cold game here? "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other. We only went on one date then it went slightly cold then I “ turned up the heat” a couple weeks later.". Especially this part: "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her", - you are dating a telepath? Nice. I read the part mentioning the gift and so? If no one said "official", the gift can mean anything. I am amazed sometimes how guys overthink things and still arrive to wrong conclusions. You kissed a girl and texted a song? And why did not you ask her how is she doing? Honestly, if I kiss a guy and he follows up with sending a song, I would not reply either.


I know things have been ok I just lost my touch with reality the last few days. Everything I’ve done have been done knowing it might not be appreciated. It hasn’t been recently. I decided to move on.
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What´s up with hot-n-cold game here? "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other. We only went on one date then it went slightly cold then I “ turned up the heat” a couple weeks later.". Especially this part: "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her", - you are dating a telepath? Nice. I read the part mentioning the gift and so? If no one said "official", the gift can mean anything. I am amazed sometimes how guys overthink things and still arrive to wrong conclusions. You kissed a girl and texted a song? And why did not you ask her how is she doing? Honestly, if I kiss a guy and he follows up with sending a song, I would not reply either.

I know things have been ok I just lost my touch with reality the last few days. Everything I’ve done have been done knowing it might not be appreciated. It hasn’t been recently. I decided to move on.
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You seem to be a complete nerd when it comes to relationships. We tried to understand what was going on, but you kept talking in riddles and self sabotaging. Maybe go read some dating advice for men? Or approach dating like a protracted job application, with interviews over several months, if this comes easier to your earthy sun/moon/Mars?

If you apply for a top position, even after you’ve been headhunted, but come across as a weak candidate, unsure if you want the job or not, backpedaling every second day, blowing hot and cold, having unrealistic expectations and failing to communicate and demonstrate your strengths, skills, agenda or intentions....do you think you would get hired? Yes, sending a gift and a song to the relevant person might help, but without the rest, it looks like something a shy teenager would do. Pisces women are not into shy teenagers. Grow some balls.
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What´s up with hot-n-cold game here? "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other. We only went on one date then it went slightly cold then I “ turned up the heat” a couple weeks later.". Especially this part: "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her", - you are dating a telepath? Nice. I read the part mentioning the gift and so? If no one said "official", the gift can mean anything. I am amazed sometimes how guys overthink things and still arrive to wrong conclusions. You kissed a girl and texted a song? And why did not you ask her how is she doing? Honestly, if I kiss a guy and he follows up with sending a song, I would not reply either.

I know things have been ok I just lost my touch with reality the last few days. Everything I’ve done have been done knowing it might not be appreciated. It hasn’t been recently. I decided to move on.

You seem to be a complete nerd when it comes to relationships. We tried to understand what was going on, but you kept talking in riddles and self sabotaging. Maybe go read some dating advice for men? Or approach dating like a protracted job application, with interviews over several months, if this comes easier to your earthy sun/moon/Mars?

If you apply for a top position, even after you’ve been headhunted, but come across as a weak candidate, unsure if you want the job or not, backpedaling every second day, blowing hot and cold, having unrealistic expectations and failing to communicate and demonstrate your strengths, skills, agenda or intentions....do you think you would get hired? Yes, sending a gift and a song to the relevant person might help, but without the rest, it looks like something a shy teenager would do. Pisces women are not into shy teenagers. Grow some balls.
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The thing is I know I messed up but for some reason self sabotaging is mechanism that always comes up. I missed my opportunity Ik but it wouldn’t have worked anyway. She mentioned that she has a hard time reading people liking her etc. Things established that I was interested but it’s more about what she wants. For what it’s worth Neptune conjuncts Venus from the both of us Her Neptune Conjuncts my Venus much tighter. Earlier it was me confusing her but I created a fantasy as a defense mechanism it’s what it do it’s self toture. When I realize they probably moved on just playing the field. I’m not as dumb as I sound, but I admitted from the beginning I am not good at extended relationships etc.
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What´s up with hot-n-cold game here? "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other. We only went on one date then it went slightly cold then I “ turned up the heat” a couple weeks later.". Especially this part: "Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her", - you are dating a telepath? Nice. I read the part mentioning the gift and so? If no one said "official", the gift can mean anything. I am amazed sometimes how guys overthink things and still arrive to wrong conclusions. You kissed a girl and texted a song? And why did not you ask her how is she doing? Honestly, if I kiss a guy and he follows up with sending a song, I would not reply either.

I know things have been ok I just lost my touch with reality the last few days. Everything I’ve done have been done knowing it might not be appreciated. It hasn’t been recently. I decided to move on.

You seem to be a complete nerd when it comes to relationships. We tried to understand what was going on, but you kept talking in riddles and self sabotaging. Maybe go read some dating advice for men? Or approach dating like a protracted job application, with interviews over several months, if this comes easier to your earthy sun/moon/Mars?

If you apply for a top position, even after you’ve been headhunted, but come across as a weak candidate, unsure if you want the job or not, backpedaling every second day, blowing hot and cold, having unrealistic expectations and failing to communicate and demonstrate your strengths, skills, agenda or intentions....do you think you would get hired? Yes, sending a gift and a song to the relevant person might help, but without the rest, it looks like something a shy teenager would do. Pisces women are not into shy teenagers. Grow some balls.

The thing is I know I messed up but for some reason self sabotaging is mechanism that always comes up. I missed my opportunity Ik but it wouldn’t have worked anyway. She mentioned that she has a hard time reading people liking her etc. Things established that I was interested but it’s more about what she wants. For what it’s worth Neptune conjuncts Venus from the both of us Her Neptune Conjuncts my Venus much tighter. Earlier it was me confusing her but I created a fantasy as a defense mechanism it’s what it do it’s self toture. When I realize they probably moved on just playing the field. I’m not as dumb as I sound, but I admitted from the beginning I am not good at extended relationships etc.
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I didn’t say you were dumb, far from it! Nerd is something else: overly intellectual, but lacking social skills. Pisces-Capricorn is a good match, but it requires physical presence to feel the connection. Do you know how it feels from the Pisces side? It feels like home. Like you arrived, and the search is over. This is the place where you are going to live and die, and this is the person, the one. Everything makes sense now, and the struggle to get here was worthwhile.

During the past 6 weeks, you could have asked her out on at least 6 dates. Sleeping with her and then cooling off is the kind of action that you often hear on dxpnet, from women who wonder what sort of a fuckboy they’ve met. It kills the trust.

When you ask someone on a date, the clock starts ticking. They have expectations and dreams as well, it’s not just you who does. If you don’t have the time or the guts, don’t start something. But if you do, stay on the ball.
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"She mentioned that she has a hard time reading people liking her etc."

Her saying this was her giving you the opportunity to tell her you like her because she is super unsure of where your head is at.

"Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other". So no, she really doesn't know.

Its painful and awkward and uncomfortable and sometimes ends in a dumpster fire but you need to put yourself out there. No risk, no reward.
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"She mentioned that she has a hard time reading people liking her etc."

Her saying this was her giving you the opportunity to tell her you like her because she is super unsure of where your head is at.

"Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other". So no, she really doesn't know.

Its painful and awkward and uncomfortable and sometimes ends in a dumpster fire but you need to put yourself out there. No risk, no reward.


I may have missed a crucial opportunity yesterday m. Actuall I know I did when I saw her at her workplace and didn’t tell her all the way how I feel. I think it’s best to let this simmer down. I’m sure she’s seeing other people and I can’t let myself get all worked up about her.
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"She mentioned that she has a hard time reading people liking her etc."

Her saying this was her giving you the opportunity to tell her you like her because she is super unsure of where your head is at.

"Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other". So no, she really doesn't know.

Its painful and awkward and uncomfortable and sometimes ends in a dumpster fire but you need to put yourself out there. No risk, no reward.

I may have missed a crucial opportunity yesterday m. Actuall I know I did when I saw her at her workplace and didn’t tell her all the way how I feel. I think it’s best to let this simmer down. I’m sure she’s seeing other people and I can’t let myself get all worked up about her.
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Work is not the right place to talk about highly personal stuff. She has all the right to see other people, since she is single and believes that you are not serious. Those people had the courage to ask her out, why can’t you? The more you wait, the more chances there are that she ends up with someone else.
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"She mentioned that she has a hard time reading people liking her etc."

Her saying this was her giving you the opportunity to tell her you like her because she is super unsure of where your head is at.

"Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other". So no, she really doesn't know.

Its painful and awkward and uncomfortable and sometimes ends in a dumpster fire but you need to put yourself out there. No risk, no reward.

I may have missed a crucial opportunity yesterday m. Actuall I know I did when I saw her at her workplace and didn’t tell her all the way how I feel. I think it’s best to let this simmer down. I’m sure she’s seeing other people and I can’t let myself get all worked up about her.
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Your sure she's seeing others just like your sure she knew you were into her.

Aka not sure at all.

Its already simmered down. Water is still as stone.

Make your move or don't, just be consistent.
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"She mentioned that she has a hard time reading people liking her etc."

Her saying this was her giving you the opportunity to tell her you like her because she is super unsure of where your head is at.

"Nothing has been official but she’s knows I’ve been in to her some times more than other". So no, she really doesn't know.

Its painful and awkward and uncomfortable and sometimes ends in a dumpster fire but you need to put yourself out there. No risk, no reward.

I may have missed a crucial opportunity yesterday m. Actuall I know I did when I saw her at her workplace and didn’t tell her all the way how I feel. I think it’s best to let this simmer down. I’m sure she’s seeing other people and I can’t let myself get all worked up about her.

Your sure she's seeing others just like your sure she knew you were into her.

Aka not sure at all.

Its already simmered down. Water is still as stone.

Make your move or don't, just be consistent.
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Ik know for sure.I will just leave it there.