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Which sign is likely to become divorced quicker than most? What is the testimony?


I believe in long term and working out problems with each other forever. I don't believe in divorce unless kids are grown or know both parents can maintain better separately..

the right one? Who is likely to get married within a year of dating? If you succeeded how long have you been together.

I am a Taurus with venus in Taurus. I believe I heard Taurus and Capricorn don't believe in divorce either.



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I was going to say Virgo...and still maybe them but I have to go with my own sign Pisces. Our perception of what is vs what is in our heads seems to dominate a relationship at times. Especially if it becomes rocky. We believe in forever but once a storm comes it is difficult to see actual. Then the situation no matter how small becomes a huge one and we retreat and make up more of a figment of our imagination. It takes a strong person to keep us out in reality. Most don't have the patience for it.

Then I have to say Aquarius...I have seem many divorce. Virgo as well..all my Virgo friends divorce marry divorce marry..divorce.. then single till they die...
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To each his/her own.

If I were to guess, I'd say the fire signs are more likely to divorce followed by Virgo and Pisces.

I don't have a problem with divorce itself. A lot of people argue that its for the kids etc but what are you teaching them. That bad situations are "normal?" That you cant have a healthy relationship?

Heck my grandparents(both Caps) stayed in a very toxic marriage for years. So bad that they didn't even sleep in the same bed. As a kid, I thought it was normal. If being together physically doesn't mean closeness. If there's more negative than love, better to pack it up and go your separate ways than show your kids that's all they have to look forward to. The human instinct is to find something better...and there's nothing wrong with that.
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@Tiz:

I was looking at my chart a while back and ran across something interesting about one of my placements...Pluto in Libra. From what I read, your Pluto placement is a generational one and the site stated that my generation(and the ones behind it) would be adverse to formal relationships. As in there would be a real fear there and mainly because of seeing the bad side of marriage combined with a breaking away from tradition. Not saying anything bad about Libras, but they struggle between individual freedom and partnership.

Hence, after being pushed towards marriage for centuries, society is breaking away from that. It's a cosmic balance. Mainly because of women. Not to blame them, but men have used the institution of marriage as a form of control and there's plenty of evidence to show that. This also includes women who look at it as a form of security. The younger generations, weighing the bad/good, are now deciding to have companionship through other means. True love and family can exist without man's institution of marriage. The reason it existed in the first place was out if security...mainly for men. If you recall, women were seen as property and their marriages were arranged by their fathers and the woman had no input. While that has changed somewhat, a lot of that control still exists in today's society but is evaporating as more women gain and exercise control over their lives. Remember, the majority of divorce proceedings are filed by women. In a way...it's as it should be and is true justice...hence...Pluto in Libra. Balance.
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Nobody "believes" in divorce. Or else people wouldn't get married in the first place.

My sister has a Taurus moon and asc, and she always says the same thing you just said. To me personally that's very easy said if you have never been married before.

Not that I have ever been married, but when speaking of divorce to me it's not the end of the world, nor do I see it as a failure.



You don't see it as a failure?

To me, divorce is always a tragedy.



Sure, it's tragic. Nonetheless it's better to be realistic about it when it does happen.

To me, lasting marriages are a privilege an should be celebrated. But failed marriages happen. People change, circumstances happen. People shouldn't beat themselves up for it, nor should others judge them upon it.

What I was trying to say basically is that I believe society is focussing too much and judging too harshly those that have gotten a divorce. And the worst critics seem to be those that have never been married. I hate that kind of hypocrisy.
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+1 i so agree with you here.
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Marriage is for people who wanna have kids.

If you have no interest in having children and proper upbringing of children, don't get married. Men are polygamous and women, with their emotions, stepping out of their houses now, have also become polygamous. Nowadays both men and women seem to outgrow the love in a relationship. Having children with multiple partners is just disgusting and unnecessary hassle.

Children or humanitarian oriented signs are least likely to get divorced like cancers, Pisces, aqua, gem, Capricorns and Scorpio. Never met a cancer that didn't like children or want their own.
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@Tiz:

I was looking at my chart a while back and ran across something interesting about one of my placements...Pluto in Libra. From what I read, your Pluto placement is a generational one and the site stated that my generation(and the ones behind it) would be adverse to formal relationships. As in there would be a real fear there and mainly because of seeing the bad side of marriage combined with a breaking away from tradition. Not saying anything bad about Libras, but they struggle between individual freedom and partnership.

Hence, after being pushed towards marriage for centuries, society is breaking away from that. It's a cosmic balance. Mainly because of women. Not to blame them, but men have used the institution of marriage as a form of control and there's plenty of evidence to show that. This also includes women who look at it as a form of security. The younger generations, weighing the bad/good, are now deciding to have companionship through other means. True love and family can exist without man's institution of marriage. The reason it existed in the first place was out if security...mainly for men. If you recall, women were seen as property and their marriages were arranged by their fathers and the woman had no input. While that has changed somewhat, a lot of that control still exists in today's society but is evaporating as more women gain and exercise control over their lives. Remember, the majority of divorce proceedings are filed by women. In a way...it's as it should be and is true justice...hence...Pluto in Libra. Balance.



That makes perfect sense. I do believe both partners in a marriage have a right to be conscious of property and should exercise this awareness when agreeing to get marriage. But equally. No longer as a one-way thing.

Cheers for the context.

I've read a lot about how Pluto in Libra is basically a little resentful of having to carry on the "sake of appearances" handed down by Pluto in Virgo generation, but only Scorpio's obsession with the underlying truth is breaking away from all that for everyone.
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You're welcome and I completely agree. Thanks!
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To each his/her own.

If I were to guess, I'd say the fire signs are more likely to divorce followed by Virgo and Pisces.

I don't have a problem with divorce itself. A lot of people argue that its for the kids etc but what are you teaching them. That bad situations are "normal?" That you cant have a healthy relationship?

Heck my grandparents(both Caps) stayed in a very toxic marriage for years. So bad that they didn't even sleep in the same bed. As a kid, I thought it was normal. If being together physically doesn't mean closeness. If there's more negative than love, better to pack it up and go your separate ways than show your kids that's all they have to look forward to. The human instinct is to find something better...and there's nothing wrong with that.



Again, sleeping in the same bedroom doesn't necessarily mean much.
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In reality, it means a lot. Other arrangements/factors aside, if you can't even sleep in the same bed, it's an obvious sign that you're only together out of convenience and love is a very far second. That's a clear message to most.
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The worst hypocrisy probably does come from those whom never have been married because they refuse to get married if they are unsure if it will last...

But there is no use is shaming anyone who has been divorced nor anyone whose not married with an opinion.



that's an investment/ and/or gamble they're gonna have to take. A big risk. Lots of sacrifice.

it's SCARY for alot of people.

But they idealize or dream of "marriage" and the white picket fence.

then if the man/woman isn't up to their "par" ...they throw them away like a sack of potatoes.

No wonder alot of people who believe in commitment are afraid.
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if a man doesn't make enough money or has a lack of ability to make money as society deems him to be, the woman who is ambitious throws him away?? Pftt that's not love or sacrifice. that's not even deep understanding. If you don't like type, why did you marry them?
you should already get a good handle on who they are, as a person before commitment. if you bail out, it's weak.
and i'm not talking about being physically abused everyday either.
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Posted by lisabethur8
if a man doesn't make enough money or has a lack of ability to make money as society deems him to be, the woman who is ambitious throws him away?? Pftt that's not love or sacrifice. that's not even deep understanding. If you don't like type, why did you marry them?
you should already get a good handle on who they are, as a person before commitment. if you bail out, it's weak.
and i'm not talking about being physically abused everyday either.



There are valid reasons people bail on marriage. It takes strength, confidence and a great deal of self esteem to do so in certain circumstances. So don't just assume because someone bailed that they are weak.

Although my ex-husband misrepresented himself as far as goals and ambitions and future plans, I stayed with him. I made a commitment and by golly I was willing to keep it.

I only bailed on my marriage because he had a long term affair and had obviously allied with her over me. My scorpio venus was not willing to work through that. Betrayal is the deal breaker for me. Once trust is gone, it's gone forever.



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if a man doesn't make enough money or has a lack of ability to make money as society deems him to be, the woman who is ambitious throws him away?? Pftt that's not love or sacrifice. that's not even deep understanding. If you don't like type, why did you marry them?
you should already get a good handle on who they are, as a person before commitment. if you bail out, it's weak.
and i'm not talking about being physically abused everyday either.



There are valid reasons people bail on marriage. It takes strength, confidence and a great deal of self esteem to do so in certain circumstances. So don't just assume because someone bailed that they are weak.

Although my ex-husband misrepresented himself as far as goals and ambitions and future plans, I stayed with him. I made a commitment and by golly I was willing to keep it.

I only bailed on my marriage because he had a long term affair and had obviously allied with her over me. My scorpio venus was not willing to work through that. Betrayal is the deal breaker for me. Once trust is gone, it's gone forever.



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Rest easy, Truecap, i get the feeling you would stay through the thick and thin. 🙂
and you would stay until it breaks you; i remember a bit of what you wrote about your ex. I admire that you can, after awhile, not "attach" to the idea that all gem suns (like your ex) are the same. He just didn't appreciate your consistent loyalty. Let him be happy with his new woman. You, on the other hand, deserve to be happy!
i, too had a hard time detaching from that thought pattern with one of my ex's. It was liberating to say the least.
i still, am will still always love mars-ruled men though. it's consistent. i just had to find the right "niche" 😆
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anyway, i'm glad you found your "niche" happily, truecap. 🙂
So did i.
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The signs that take longer to fall in love are the most likely to be successful at marriage.

Signs that fall in and out of love quickly are the most likely to divorce.

I have nothing to base that on, just my opinion.



i believe that is more "infatuation" when they fall easily in love like that.

it all varies from person to person. /couple to couple.

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Nobody "believes" in divorce. Or else people wouldn't get married in the first place.

My sister has a Taurus moon and asc, and she always says the same thing you just said. To me personally that's very easy said if you have never been married before.

Not that I have ever been married, but when speaking of divorce to me it's not the end of the world, nor do I see it as a failure.



You don't see it as a failure?

To me, divorce is always a tragedy.



For who? What about for a woman or man that is being beaten up or mentally abused, divorce would be heaven for them
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+1

it's toxic for a woman to stay in that kind of relationship. toxic for her and for her children.
she could end up dead in the ditch. Alot of domestic violence ends up that one of them dies. I'll have to go read up on it statistic wise, but alot of abusers kill their victims. that's not love.
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Posted by truecap
The signs that take longer to fall in love are the most likely to be successful at marriage.

Signs that fall in and out of love quickly are the most likely to divorce.

I have nothing to base that on, just my opinion.



Thats a very earth sign thing to say 😛

On the flip side, they are the ones most likely to stay in a bad situation out of convenience and "practicality."
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The signs that take longer to fall in love are the most likely to be successful at marriage.

Signs that fall in and out of love quickly are the most likely to divorce.

I have nothing to base that on, just my opinion.



Thats a very earth sign thing to say 😛

On the flip side, they are the ones most likely to stay in a bad situation out of convenience and "practicality."
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all this time learning about astrology and you still can't "get it"?

investment and TIME. lots of investment = that's earth. You just don't bail out. that's not commitment and loyalty no matter how fucked up it may seem.
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I'm just sick of it, all of it, every last aspect of it.

Guys would tell me "Man you really need to get laid."

Fuck you I don't need to get fucking laid. I could get laid any moment I want and degrade myself more then I already have. I have these worthless bitches texting me degrading pics of themselves saying "Oh baby, please come over and put your amazing cock inside me, my bf just went to work."

Fucking slut I hate you. Always trying to take advantage of my sex drive because *I'm a sucker* with a nice dick. Fucking cunt. Get away from me.

I don't want fucking sex I want someone who could love me for me, and bring out the best in me. We all know that can't happen so fuck it, all of it, every last goddamm aspect of it.



Maybe you're just meeting women in the wrong places...??
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Don't get me wrong. I so want the traditional marriage with my partner. My Taurus trifleca will stick to you forever. I am stable and responsibile.. And work through the good and bad.. for sickness and in health. For richer or poor..


Which one would break up for the poorer part after marrriage and you are stuck with mortgages and kids? Or even no kids in your life. Would you break up for money?

Would you break up if they were cheaters, you did say through the good and bad right?

Would you break up if someone had cancer or lost a limb in an accident?




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Guys say the stupidest, meanest, shit sometimes.

Guys have been hurt by woman. Woman been hurt by man. Woman cheat. Men cheat. Woman abuses man. Man abuses woman.

But guess what..one day we hope to find a guy who enjoys the finer things in life and takes care of us. And responsibilities..be mature.. and not all woman toss their body onto guys.. to solve shit..I don't know who does that?
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It takes from day one - one year to get to know someone from the outside lookingin. I mean my drill sergeant questions come out. If we feel its good and can live with a few bad behaviours from each other..

It takes 1-2 more years to actually move in and see if we are compatible living temporarily together.

After 3 years it's either save to take it to the next step..
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@lisabethur:

Umm....actually I do get it because I look past astrology and focus on spiriruality...the deeper part of it all. Ironically, if we pay attention, astrology points us in a direction...the spirit. All of this happens regardless of sign and I don't need astrology to figure that out. At some point, you have to get real and look at the situation for what it is no matter how much venus conjuncts a hickory tree.

No matter how fucked up it is? So basically, you're advocating that if a man or woman resorts to cheating and inflicting physical harm, that they should work it out because of investment and time...even if it costs them their life? I hope not.

There are spiritual laws at work here and no law exists that says that you're supposed to stay together no matter how bad or through thick and thin. That is a construct of the egoworking out of fear...fear of loss. So it makes you selfish and controlling.

Furthermore, the emotional damage has long term implications and is far worse because of the memories. Why would one subject their children to watching their parents keep up appearances all the while inflicting damage upon each other. That's not love at all...it's convenience at their expense. Better to separate and show them that there is still hope than to stay together and slowly destroy it and their spirit. We see this all the time in relationships. Men and women play out their parents' relationships with their significant others. The example you set is what your children will carry into society. So, staying together is only ONE way of many in dealing with it. But it is not THE way.

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Posted by DarkFire
Marriage material is the oposite of everything I am.

I keep telling my blind exes this hoping they will go away but it never works.

Dumb women make bad choices and tend to think giving their body to men will solve everything, and smart women take all your belonging and money then leave you.

Fuck love, Fuck sex, Fuck women men children dogs cats tress me you everything. Fuck it all



Posted by DarkFire
I'm just sick of it, all of it, every last aspect of it.

Guys would tell me "Man you really need to get laid."

Fuck you I don't need to get fucking laid. I could get laid any moment I want and degrade myself more then I already have. I have these worthless bitches texting me degrading pics of themselves saying "Oh baby, please come over and put your amazing cock inside me, my bf just went to work."

Fucking slut I hate you. Always trying to take advantage of my sex drive because *I'm a sucker* with a nice dick. Fucking cunt. Get away from me.

I don't want fucking sex I want someone who could love me for me, and bring out the best in me. We all know that can't happen so fuck it, all of it, every last goddamm aspect of it.
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😱
Are you okay?

How did these women get your number?
How does this work, do you initiate the nasty talk/pics or or do they?
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@lisabethur:

Umm....actually I do get it because I look past astrology and focus on spiriruality...the deeper part of it all. Ironically, if we pay attention, astrology points us in a direction...the spirit. All of this happens regardless of sign and I don't need astrology to figure that out. At some point, you have to get real and look at the situation for what it is no matter how much venus conjuncts a hickory tree.
No matter how fucked up it is? So basically, you're advocating that if a man or woman resorts to cheating and inflicting physical harm, that they should work it out because of investment and time...even if it costs them their life? I hope not.
There are spiritual laws at work here and no law exists that says that you're supposed to stay together no matter how bad or through thick and thin. That is a construct of the egoworking out of fear...fear of loss. So it makes you selfish and controlling.
Furthermore, the emotional damage has long term implications and is far worse because of the memories. Why would one subject their children to watching their parents keep up appearances all the while inflicting damage upon each other. That's not love at all...it's convenience at their expense. Better to separate and show them that there is still hope than to stay together and slowly destroy it and their spirit. We see this all the time in relationships. Men and women play out their parents' relationships with their significant others. The example you set is what your children will carry into society. So, staying together is only ONE way of many in dealing with it. But it is not THE way.

we really have bad communication because you just didn't get me at all. i see what you mean, but it seems like there's a bad comm. I already understand all that what you said though, but i dont believe you understood where i was coming from. so never mind.
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Any sign is likely to get divorced. I can see Caps NEVER settling down, or settling for something less than they want, because rather than going with our hearts we tend to worry about if something is the 'right thing' or do what people tell us we should do so we can win somehow. But I know most caps once they do marry stay married till death - I even know a Cap woman who never remarried after her husband died, even after all these years, because she was still devoted to him at heart.

I agree most Virgos I know tend to break up even their most committed relationships/marriage. Virgo is easily manipulated by others, has an issue with the grass always being greener and overthinks/complicates. Takes for granted.I don't know any Virgos who haven't done this, honestly.

Sag is another sign I see divorcing easily/ cheating. My sister did, twice. (sag).