Sag89
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Posted by Sag89
When did birth control = I can cum inside you without a condom on?
I notice a lot of ppl think this way! wth
I don't know anybody who thinks this way.
In fact, I'm quite certain that this is the very reason contraceptives were thought about ... because people actually think the opposite of what you said in that they believe that cumming inside the woman without protection is NOT practicing birth control.
And humans have been aware of this for a very long time. The first recorded message I've read about it was in Deuteronomy when it talks about how when a man dies and makes a woman a widow, she must not marry outside of the family, so when this happened and the brother-in-law didn't want to marry his brothers widow, but, HAD to according to his duty ..... he pulled out of her to prevent conception.
And Deuteronomy was written well over 2 thousand years ago .. so I think it's safe to say that people have been aware that cumming inside a woman is the opposite of birth control.
I'd like to know who you hear this from? You hear it alot? In 3rd graders you mean? Because actual adults know that cummming inside of her runs the risk of pregnancy.
If this thread is in place because you have a guy who wants to cum inside of you, and the only thing you can muster is to come in here to make joke of it .... then perhaps you need to rethink your own values
Posted by Sag89
When did birth control = I can cum inside you without a condom on?
This is a backwards way of saying ...... you let a man fuck you without protection, and leave it up to him whether he wears a condom, or not.
I *think* she's saying that she's on something to prevent pregnancy (the Pill or whatever) so he thinks it's okay to come inside her. But something tells me she HASN'T said directly to him that she doesn't want him to do that. She just lets him fuck her bareback, counting on him to pull out (cuz that's what she wants him to do) but then he doesn't. Then she sits and fumes about the "disrespectful" way he's handling fucking her.
Um, no. Speak up and insist on your boundaries, and THEN if he disregards him, that's a whole 'nother issue and you might want to seriously consider dropping him entirely.
Also.. personal opinion here... regardless of whether you're on something or not... WHY are you letting the man inside you at all without a condom? Are you married or in a two way monogamous, longterm live-in relationship, and you've both been tested clean for at least six months to a year? No? Then make him wrap it.
No rubber, no nookie. PERIOD. STD's are no joke, and plenty of them don't care if the man pulls out. Precum contains sperm, and you can bet your sweet bippy it also can contain chlamydia or HIV or HPV or something else you DON'T want to share.
Um, no. Speak up and insist on your boundaries, and THEN if he disregards him, that's a whole 'nother issue and you might want to seriously consider dropping him entirely.
Also.. personal opinion here... regardless of whether you're on something or not... WHY are you letting the man inside you at all without a condom? Are you married or in a two way monogamous, longterm live-in relationship, and you've both been tested clean for at least six months to a year? No? Then make him wrap it.
No rubber, no nookie. PERIOD. STD's are no joke, and plenty of them don't care if the man pulls out. Precum contains sperm, and you can bet your sweet bippy it also can contain chlamydia or HIV or HPV or something else you DON'T want to share.
Actually my reading of it is she is talking about someone who wants to ride bareback and the answer is no - it sounds more sarcastic to me, i'm doubting that she is allowing it. Lots of men use the "condoms make me feel nothing" emotional blackmail to try to get the ladies to cave.
I'm adventurous, love. But I'm not reckless with my sexual health. And no, raw dogging orally is also dangerously stupid, and as verboten as every other form of raw dogging. Can't leave MY sexual health in the hands of someone else.
Until it's a relationship, and it's monogamous, and I'm not risking catching something every time he puts his cock anywhere in me.. condoms. Do they suck? Hell yeah, I'm not a fan. But I'm a BIG fan of mitigating potential disasters.
Until it's a relationship, and it's monogamous, and I'm not risking catching something every time he puts his cock anywhere in me.. condoms. Do they suck? Hell yeah, I'm not a fan. But I'm a BIG fan of mitigating potential disasters.
Posted by RockthenerdsPosted by celticlioness
Lots of men use the "condoms make me feel nothing" emotional blackmail to try to get the ladies to cave.
Not true ime.click to expand
Do you have sex with men, and insist they use a condom?.. that's the only way for YOU to truly have enough experience in seeing how MEN react to being told they must wear one when they don't really like them or want to.
Cuz I *have* had several men pull the "condoms make me feel nothing" line to try talking me out of my boundary. I've rolled my eyes at them and said, "You think it's oh-so-great for me? It's not.. I might as well be using a dildo. But it is what it is. No rubber, no nookie." Then they pull the, "But I'm clean! Don't you trust me? Or are you saying that YOU might not be clean?" Another eyeroll from me. Nope, they can't talk me into skipping this "one little thing" .. I absolutely insist on it. It's up to them to comply or refuse.. but refusal gets them no booty.
I've been with my Libra for three years, and we're both clean. He gets to enjoy condomless sex with me (and me with him!)
Like I said.. I will not recklessly put my own sexual health in the hands of someone else.
Posted by NeferPosted by RockthenerdsPosted by celticlioness
Lots of men use the "condoms make me feel nothing" emotional blackmail to try to get the ladies to cave.
Not true ime.
Do you have sex with men, and insist they use a condom?.. that's the only way for YOU to truly have enough experience in seeing how MEN react to being told they must wear one when they don't really like them or want to.
Cuz I *have* had several men pull the "condoms make me feel nothing" line to try talking me out of my boundary. I've rolled my eyes at them and said, "You think it's oh-so-great for me? It's not.. I might as well be using a dildo. But it is what it is. No rubber, no nookie." Then they pull the, "But I'm clean! Don't you trust me? Or are you saying that YOU might not be clean?" Another eyeroll from me. Nope, they can't talk me into skipping this "one little thing" .. I absolutely insist on it. It's up to them to comply or refuse.. but refusal gets them no booty.
I've been with my Libra for three years, and we're both clean. He gets to enjoy condomless sex with me (and me with him!)
Like I said.. I will not recklessly put my own sexual health in the hands of someone else.click to expand
Yes I do have sex with men - and in fact I've never been with a man who would expect not to wear one, but I do know that lots of men do try to get away with wearing them, i've been privvy to their discussions and more importantly the discussions of young girls. I work with young people and a lot of the guys are trying to do away with the protection, some girls fall for it - thinking its about love.
I've had this discussion on this message board here before also - the guy tellng the girl he feels nothing (i mean come on), in fact he claimed to feel so little that he couldn't get it up and refused to have sex with her until SHE chose a method of BC that would suit him! And she believed him, ffs. I even pointed out, like you, that condoms affect what a woman feels too so its not all about the poor little man.
But anyway, back to the OP, I don't think she was saying that she is allowing it, I thought she was being sarcastic = like saying "since when did no mean yes"
Posted by RockthenerdsPosted by NeferPosted by RockthenerdsPosted by celticlioness
Lots of men use the "condoms make me feel nothing" emotional blackmail to try to get the ladies to cave.
Not true ime.
Do you have sex with men, and insist they use a condom?.. that's the only way for YOU to truly have enough experience in seeing how MEN react to being told they must wear one when they don't really like them or want to.
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That is the dumbest analogy I've ever heard to attempt to prove a point about how a man thinks, coming from a woman.
Are you fucking kidding me?
How about being a sexually active man, growing up with sexually active men, being raised by sexually active men and taught how to become sexually active, by men?. You know how I know I'm right? because if either of you had 3 some billion men on the planet try to use that excuse for sex you would be in the guiness book of world records for the most bs ever produced out of one mouth. Just because you've had a bad experience on a few( or "several") occasions doesn't mean you can speak for every man and woman who's ever discussed wearing a condom before sex.
You sure as hell can't speak for me because I've never once used that lame ass excuse to go without a condom. My whole point was 8 x's out of 10 the woman will not bring up that issue, the other times I would just simply get a rubber.
You think guys don't talk to each other about these things? Get real.
All you're doing is trying to portray all men look like the scrubs you seem to attract or the ones your reading about in some cosmo article.. Even my most scumbag-assholes of friends aren't like that. All bs.
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Which is why I used the word "Lots" and not all - idiot.
Rock.. really? No one said ALL men, nor spoke for ALL men... you indeed are a man, a man who does not try to talk women out of using a condom when she insists on one. (not talking about the women who don't ask - it's just idiotic to not ask for what you want, then blame someone else for not getting what you never asked for).. which is commendable... but in truth, you are ONE man.. and I have personally had 5 or 6 guys pull the whiny little maneuver to try talking me out of using a condom with them. No, that is not a HUGE percentage of my lovers.. in no way did I mean to imply that ALL or MOST men do it.. I only pointed out that several HAVE done it to me, same as they've obviously done to celticlioness, and that the little phenomenon DOES exist.
SOME men DO that. I applaud you (and the men you know) for being ones that don't.
Oh, and a P.S... as for saying someone is "sounding like a whore" and calling her a "cunt" in order to put her in her place and get her to shut up.. I HAVE slept with "lots" of guys. Big deal, and the only approval I need is my own, and never yours. I've been sexually active longer than many of you DXPers have been alive *shrug* But I take care of my own sexual health and have never gotten so much as crabs, much less anything more serious.
And.. that's MISS CUNT to you.
SOME men DO that. I applaud you (and the men you know) for being ones that don't.
Oh, and a P.S... as for saying someone is "sounding like a whore" and calling her a "cunt" in order to put her in her place and get her to shut up.. I HAVE slept with "lots" of guys. Big deal, and the only approval I need is my own, and never yours. I've been sexually active longer than many of you DXPers have been alive *shrug* But I take care of my own sexual health and have never gotten so much as crabs, much less anything more serious.
And.. that's MISS CUNT to you.
Posted by RockthenerdsPosted by celticlionessPosted by RockthenerdsPosted by NeferPosted by RockthenerdsPosted by celticlioness
Lots of men use the "condoms make me feel nothing" emotional blackmail to try to get the ladies to cave.
Not true ime.
Do you have sex with men, and insist they use a condom?.. that's the only way for YOU to truly have enough experience in seeing how MEN react to being told they must wear one when they don't really like them or want to.
.
Which is why I used the word "Lots" and not all - idiot.
Which is why I wasn't even talking to you so, you can re read the quote correctly next time, not make yourself sound like an even bigger whore by telling everyone you sleep with "lots" of guys and
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Do you know how to read? I said I have sex with men, nowhere did I specify an actual number. You're really not very clever are you. I'm sure you still have a bit of growing up to do, or is that "lots" of growing up.
oh and btw, whether I have had sex with one man or a hundred does not make me a whore - no more than it would a man.
Posted by RockthenerdsPosted by Nefer
Rock.. really? No one said ALL men, nor spoke for ALL men...
And.. that's MISS CUNT to you.
I knew what you we're saying, of course it exist, I generally do not like the feeling of them but women like the stamina so I don't bitch and whine about it like the guys you both seem to find attractive. As far as whores I actually don't believe in them it's just fun to say in name calling.
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Do you know what kind of guys we both seem to find attractive? Fun to call someone a whore, that's just immature.
and also offensive which isn't then made ok with a little winky face. I don't find guys like you attractive that's for sure.
Posted by RockthenerdsPosted by Nefer
Anywho,My point was to both of you(because you happen chime in), that saying "Lot's or All" is still a ridiculously broad kind of statement when it comes to men and their sexual experiences.
Common sense would tell someone to at least have the courtesy to refer to "the lot's of guy's" in her own personal experiences so that generalization isn't taken as truth when it is far from it.click to expand
So rather than have a civilized debate/discussion about the actual topic at hand you decide to focus on the wording used - "lots" vs "all", you can't figure it out in your own head, we need to give exact precise numbers so that your poor male pride isn't hurt, and then resort to insults to try to drive your point home, which of course is lost instantly as a result of the stamping feet childish behaviour - ffs.
Posted by Rockthenerds
@ Nefer oh yea I wasn't even calling you a cunt, It's because you two are chiming in at different times is the mis communication. So the "cunt's and whores" are supposed to go to celtic because she's being a crazy.
aaand the " IME" example goes to both you so you guys can chillax, but celtic is still being ...yano...
and how exactly am I being crazy?
*shrug* Just saying you got it wrong.. she's not the cunt. I am.
Posted by Nefer
*shrug* Just saying you got it wrong.. she's not the cunt. I am.
Haven't read whatever led up to this, but you bloody well are not.
Posted by Ellybean
Bah bah bah bah bah this is such a pet peeve of mine. I have friends CONSTANTLY tell me they use, no, ZERO, absolutely NONE, birth control.
These are what THE WOMEN are saying. "Oh those birth control pills are awful, make me emotional/crazy."
I ask why not try another one, low dose or one that uses different hormones, god there's like over 40 types out there. they say,
"Oh too much work."
I ask if they use condoms
"Oh sometimes, but it ruins the moment. We mainly use the pull out method."
I tell them it's only 70-80 percent effective for pregnancy.
"Oh well, it's 92% if done correctly and 79 is done incorrectly. Don't know what that means..."
I'm sitting there in awe. Like, wth? I would NOT risk my health, my future ability to have children and/or my inability to be able to fully and properly take care of a child now for the lame reasons listed above. No way. Even the .1% chance of pregnancy from the pill weirds me out sometimes lol. Scorp and I used condoms while I was also on birth control till we were both fully monogamous and tested. I even got tested for him and I hadn't had sex of any kind in years, just a reassurance thing for both parties. I see so many friends talk about how they don't want kids for a long time, and aren't sure if they'd ever want to be with the guy they're dating long-term let alone be the father of their children yet they have rampant and careless sex and make excuses for it.
Not to say accidents don't happen. I knew a couple that the mother was on the pill and they used condoms and STILL got pregnant. I mean that kid was seriously supposed to be born lol. But most of the time if you take careful precautions you can avoid issues.
I myself have and never would allow a man to cum inside me. It's never been a problem though and never will be with Scorp. If I became pregnant without planning so, it truly would be a child meant to be born lol.
^^ See thank you! People do act like this. It's WAY more common than people think. I hear about it all the time. Girls and guys.
I've heard of several accounts where guys think it's a free pass when she's on birth control. "YAY NO CONDOMS." Uh, okay. Because you'll jump at the chance of not having any responsibility.
Elly's post isn't surprising either. The way people handle sexual responsibility is ridiculous. "Ew, it made me break out!" Try another? "I'm lazy." ....go get sterilized.
I know of someone who's accidentally had a few kids. He swears up and down condoms "don't work." Somehow she got pregnant while on the ring and they weren't using condoms. He said he got a vasectomy, but never did and kind of chuckled about it.
His choice, but the entire attitude that they have about it is kind of disturbing since they have 5 kids total, two of them being accidents (the other 3 are from previous relationships). And they're on welfare.
People need to be a bit more responsible. Woman on birth control does not necessarily equate free pass from condoms. Nor does pulling out.
Darwin HAS to be pissed off...
Elly's post isn't surprising either. The way people handle sexual responsibility is ridiculous. "Ew, it made me break out!" Try another? "I'm lazy." ....go get sterilized.
I know of someone who's accidentally had a few kids. He swears up and down condoms "don't work." Somehow she got pregnant while on the ring and they weren't using condoms. He said he got a vasectomy, but never did and kind of chuckled about it.
His choice, but the entire attitude that they have about it is kind of disturbing since they have 5 kids total, two of them being accidents (the other 3 are from previous relationships). And they're on welfare.
People need to be a bit more responsible. Woman on birth control does not necessarily equate free pass from condoms. Nor does pulling out.
Darwin HAS to be pissed off...
With my aqua we always use condoms...he's good when it comes to using protection, and he always insist on using them.
The ex Leo? Different story. He pulled the whole 'can't feel nothing' talk and at the time with us being in what I thought was a monogmous relationship I believed him and went on the pill for 6 years. He really didn't like using condoms. I remember once he pretended to put a condom on when we was having sex and I didn't realise until he was in...smh...I had to go and get tested and had multiple tests throughout our relationship; I also dragged him to get tested and thankfully I am clean even though he cheated throughout. I have been lucky.
I'm proud of the fact that throughout my sexual history I've never had an unplanned pregnancy and never caught anything yet still have a healthy sex life.
It's all about being responsible for your body. You only have one nunny.
The ex Leo? Different story. He pulled the whole 'can't feel nothing' talk and at the time with us being in what I thought was a monogmous relationship I believed him and went on the pill for 6 years. He really didn't like using condoms. I remember once he pretended to put a condom on when we was having sex and I didn't realise until he was in...smh...I had to go and get tested and had multiple tests throughout our relationship; I also dragged him to get tested and thankfully I am clean even though he cheated throughout. I have been lucky.
I'm proud of the fact that throughout my sexual history I've never had an unplanned pregnancy and never caught anything yet still have a healthy sex life.
It's all about being responsible for your body. You only have one nunny.
not using a condom
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