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Posted by tiziani
The biggest one that I've encountered = expecting emotional loyalty yet holding the right to secrecy.
Ooo good one! I'm disappointed to know that so many people expect to get in return what they're not even willing to give. You shouldn't be able to withdrawal what you didn't deposit.
They minimize their shortcomings but maximize yours. Selfishness is a double standards with & of itself
Posted by tiziani
The biggest one that I've encountered = expecting emotional loyalty yet holding the right to secrecy.
That's not a double standard, it's the water sign motto in life.
Posted by krysrenee7
Are any double standards justifiable or understandable?
Girl sleeps with 40 guys: She's a sl***t
Guy sleeps with 100 girls: He's just being a "man."
Difference between girls and ladies^^^^
If you dangle a raw steak in front of a dog, he's gonna take it. It's not a double standard, it's LOGIC.
My first instinct was to say yes because I have half jokingly admitted to double standards before. But when I tried to think of one I couldn't. The ones you guys are mentioning are easy no's for me. Anyone who sleeps with 100 people is a whore, man or woman, and I don't pat any of them on the back for it(you might catch something). If you expect honesty, you give it. Some silly movie I heard "never lie to someone who trusts you, and never trust someone who lies to you". That all just seems like it should be common sense.
My initial yes's were silly things like chivalry where I'd say it's a male thing so it doesn't apply to women. But really it's just about being a good person. So, no, I don't expect a woman to open doors for me or walk streetside down the road with me, but the same nature, yeah sure.
I hold myself to a high standard and don't expect most people to measure up to it (as shitty as that may sound). That's one of the big reasons I have so few close friends.
So, no...double standards are bad.
My initial yes's were silly things like chivalry where I'd say it's a male thing so it doesn't apply to women. But really it's just about being a good person. So, no, I don't expect a woman to open doors for me or walk streetside down the road with me, but the same nature, yeah sure.
I hold myself to a high standard and don't expect most people to measure up to it (as shitty as that may sound). That's one of the big reasons I have so few close friends.
So, no...double standards are bad.
Posted by LibraSid
The ones you guys are mentioning are easy no's for me. Anyone who sleeps with 100 people is a whore, man or woman, and I don't pat any of them on the back for it(you might catch something). If you expect honesty, you give it.
I hold myself to a high standard and don't expect most people to measure up to it (as shitty as that may sound).
+1 sometimes the truth is only shitty to those who lack standards. 😉
Posted by LibraSid
My first instinct was to say yes because I have half jokingly admitted to double standards before. But when I tried to think of one I couldn't. The ones you guys are mentioning are easy no's for me. Anyone who sleeps with 100 people is a whore, man or woman, and I don't pat any of them on the back for it(you might catch something). If you expect honesty, you give it. Some silly movie I heard "never lie to someone who trusts you, and never trust someone who lies to you". That all just seems like it should be common sense..
Gotcha. I'm sure a lot of people have played into double standards when interacting with others w/o meaning any harm.
It's all fun & games when you're the 1 with the double standards until someone comes along & pulls that double standard sh****t with you LOL
And the whole "sleep with 100" people thing was just an example. Maybe exaggerated, but nonetheless an example. Hell some guys think 5, 10 or 20 guys is too much. Some guys feel that if your # of sexual partners is even 1 more than theirs that you're some kind of sl***t or lose lady. Sooooo not fair.
@LetItBe: Well if you don't mind referring to men as helpless, uncontrollable dogs then be my guest. If a man has the self-control to pass up an ugly girl or a grandma, surely he's capable of passing up all other kinds of temptation too. If men were so helpless & if sleeping around was just their NATURE, they'd be screwing men, old ladies & anything walking. The fact that they have control & the discipline to say NO in certain situations makes it a lot harder to believe in the "Oops, I was just being a man" crap.
Plenty of men resist temptation every single day. Given that, they make the men who use the excuse that "they can't help it b/c temptation is like throwing a steak in front of a dog", look weak & like they're full of sh***t. If it's "nature" for a man to stick his thing in anything walking then there'd be no such thing as some men resisting it. The fact that some can & do kind of derails the "men can't help it/control themselves" excuse
^^^ Bingo!
Under no theory is it fair, rational or logical to minimize criticism in what a man does, but maximize criticism when a woman does the very same thing. Double standards are not fair or rational, no matter how you slice it.
Under no circumstances should/can the pot call the kettle black
Under no theory is it fair, rational or logical to minimize criticism in what a man does, but maximize criticism when a woman does the very same thing. Double standards are not fair or rational, no matter how you slice it.
Under no circumstances should/can the pot call the kettle black
if one says that it's ok for men to sleep with 100 women, saying that it's just male instinct or hormonal thing or evolutionary whatsoever, yet women sleeping with 40 men are called sleazy bags..then the one being a sexist.. believing that men lack any self will (or self restraint) and only are able to follow their basic, animalistic instinct.. looking down men, in fact, and not considering or viewing them as equal human beings.. thinking that men are incapable of behaving and conducting more than just a knee jerk response to other sex.. if one is going to say that men are animalistic, then women should be included as either men or women we are all animals - and now that it makes sense.. otherwise, it'd be calling men are the only animals.. or animals with basic instinct..but then what about women? are they not animals, too? aren't they with instincts, too?
recent researches show that women have as much desire for sex as men do..but social structures have been putting restrictions and gender unfair moral sets on the woman sex..
so if one wants to call a person who has slept with a big number of people a slut, then the one should call the person a slut no matter what the person's gender.. if not, then it's putting men down and if one's okay with that..well, I don't know.. would want to mate and spend the rest of one's life with someone who thinks/views you're lesser than themselves, or would you want to spend someone whom you think are lesser than yourself (not the equal, rational being but just works on the basic instinct level)? ..either way, it's quite depressing.. lol you view others are not good enough, equal enough for you, and you're going to live with that not good enough for you one..
recent researches show that women have as much desire for sex as men do..but social structures have been putting restrictions and gender unfair moral sets on the woman sex..
so if one wants to call a person who has slept with a big number of people a slut, then the one should call the person a slut no matter what the person's gender.. if not, then it's putting men down and if one's okay with that..well, I don't know.. would want to mate and spend the rest of one's life with someone who thinks/views you're lesser than themselves, or would you want to spend someone whom you think are lesser than yourself (not the equal, rational being but just works on the basic instinct level)? ..either way, it's quite depressing.. lol you view others are not good enough, equal enough for you, and you're going to live with that not good enough for you one..
I've a friend who cheated on his gf by sleeping with another woman, and yet he broke up with his gf when the gf drunk confessed that she had kissed another guy.. having heard that story from the guy friend, I just had to point out - why, aren't you being a hypocrite? so is it okay for you to sleep with another woman, yet you broke up with your girl because she kissed another guy? please. that's a double standard
he of course didn't sound nor look happy when I said the word hypocrite, and well, since he was my friend I thought and worried for a second that I might have hurt his feelings.. but when he himself presented the very double standard before my eyes and I did not say anything about it - then to me, it is the same as to conniving, acquiesce into it, and I did not, and would not do it.. I'm against that double standard ..and acquiescing sometimes promulgates, promotes the idea, if not actively, then indirectly.. this is how societies now have many a double standards..people just accept what it is out there and not questioning, and by doing so they actually are enhancing the double standards already in their existence.. needless to say that who actively and overtly confirm the double standards.. so I had to voice my opinion even if it would create some awkwardness between my friend and me.. and if he had to repute my opinion, then he would bring his logic into it.. he did not, just became silent..
lol.. now I sound like a proper self righteous ass lol lol
he of course didn't sound nor look happy when I said the word hypocrite, and well, since he was my friend I thought and worried for a second that I might have hurt his feelings.. but when he himself presented the very double standard before my eyes and I did not say anything about it - then to me, it is the same as to conniving, acquiesce into it, and I did not, and would not do it.. I'm against that double standard ..and acquiescing sometimes promulgates, promotes the idea, if not actively, then indirectly.. this is how societies now have many a double standards..people just accept what it is out there and not questioning, and by doing so they actually are enhancing the double standards already in their existence.. needless to say that who actively and overtly confirm the double standards.. so I had to voice my opinion even if it would create some awkwardness between my friend and me.. and if he had to repute my opinion, then he would bring his logic into it.. he did not, just became silent..
lol.. now I sound like a proper self righteous ass lol lol
dispute* not repute lol
@Xxi: Nope you're spot on!
Men like controlling economies, nuclear weapons, their wives & entire countries, but yet can't control their own zippers. The irony
Men like controlling economies, nuclear weapons, their wives & entire countries, but yet can't control their own zippers. The irony
Posted by size zero superheroPosted by LetltBPosted by krysrenee7
Are any double standards justifiable or understandable?
Girl sleeps with 40 guys: She's a sl***t
Guy sleeps with 100 girls: He's just being a "man."
Difference between girls and ladies^^^^
If you dangle a raw steak in front of a dog, he's gonna take it. It's not a double standard, it's LOGIC.
This response right here summarizes the glaring logical fallacy evident in the argument. How exactly is it that male sexual urges are excusable as a side-effect of testosterone, whereas when women act on their desires it is seen as a moral compromise or character deficiency? Mutual consent implies that both parties are in the market for action.
Why does the onus of personal responsibility fall upon the woman, yet the man's eager participation may be dismissed under the Boys Will Be Boys-amendment?click to expand
It's the same as her "difference between girls and ladies", a dog may not be able to control itself when there's meat flaunted around, but a man doesn't want a piece of meat that's been laying out on the counter with flies buzzing on it. 😱
Posted by xxixxi
I've a friend who cheated on his gf by sleeping with another woman, and yet he broke up with his gf when the gf drunk confessed that she had kissed another guy.. having heard that story from the guy friend, I just had to point out - why, aren't you being a hypocrite? so is it okay for you to sleep with another woman, yet you broke up with your girl because she kissed another guy? please. that's a double standard
he of course didn't sound nor look happy when I said the word hypocrite, and well, since he was my friend I thought and worried for a second that I might have hurt his feelings.. but when he himself presented the very double standard before my eyes and I did not say anything about it - then to me, it is the same as to conniving, acquiesce into it, and I did not, and would not do it.. I'm against that double standard ..and acquiescing sometimes promulgates, promotes the idea, if not actively, then indirectly.. this is how societies now have many a double standards..people just accept what it is out there and not questioning, and by doing so they actually are enhancing the double standards already in their existence.. needless to say that who actively and overtly confirm the double standards.. so I had to voice my opinion even if it would create some awkwardness between my friend and me.. and if he had to repute my opinion, then he would bring his logic into it.. he did not, just became silent..
lol.. now I sound like a proper self righteous ass lol lol
She should have dumped him immediately when she found out he was cheating. If I found out my guy kissed or even touched another girl (on purpose, sexually, like touching her boobs or something), it would mean automatic dumping on the spot.
And I think that's usually the recommended course of action for girls, so I don't think this was a double standard. I bet he was totally expecting her to leave him, but why would he encourage it, u kno?
Posted by LibraSidPosted by size zero superheroPosted by LetltBPosted by krysrenee7
Are any double standards justifiable or understandable?
Girl sleeps with 40 guys: She's a sl***t
Guy sleeps with 100 girls: He's just being a "man."
Difference between girls and ladies^^^^
If you dangle a raw steak in front of a dog, he's gonna take it. It's not a double standard, it's LOGIC.
Why does the onus of personal responsibility fall upon the woman, yet the man's eager participation may be dismissed under the Boys Will Be Boys-amendment?
It's the same as her "difference between girls and ladies", a dog may not be able to control itself when there's meat flaunted around, but a man doesn't want a piece of meat that's been laying out on the counter with flies buzzing on it. 😱click to expand
And why would women want a dog that's been feasting on rotting meat from random rat holes all over the place?
You are what you eat.
Posted by Chance15
Women perpetuate this more than men..by judging each other by how they dress and whispering things in each other's ear about another women's promiscuity..ever hear the saying, "Men and Women agree only on one thing..they don't trust women." the reason? the subtleties that go unnoticed by men, women are well aware of what other women do. Men don't do this..they're either straight up with each other or they don't interact.
While that is true, generally speaking even those women don't judge the men as harshly while the men do judge the women. That's where the overall women get criticized and men don't thing comes from. Women shouldn't be as bitchy to each other by default as they are but the problem is still the overall double standard.
The teachers fucking kids is a good one. I think that one is more stupid guy talk than a real double standard. At least it is for me. I still say I'd be alright if a teacher had come onto me like that. But...I have kids. If a teacher came at either my son or my daughter I'd be furious. I think most guys would do the Tim Allen grunt and say sure they'd have done it, but would back off if it was their juvenile son.
I've got a few teachers I wish would have come at me. ruh ruh ruh
I've got a few teachers I wish would have come at me. ruh ruh ruh
The "stupid male comments" thing is probably where you'll find the most active and passionate double standards...
Is it okay for men and women to equally...
Express emotions... A dude can't come up to you after an argument and say "you really hurt my feelings".
Dedicate themselves to family...stay at home dad's, paternity leave
Be president... We'll give "the button" to a black dude named Obama but we still don't know if it'd survive PMS.
Is it okay for men and women to equally...
Express emotions... A dude can't come up to you after an argument and say "you really hurt my feelings".
Dedicate themselves to family...stay at home dad's, paternity leave
Be president... We'll give "the button" to a black dude named Obama but we still don't know if it'd survive PMS.
Accomodating someone's quirks in your life while they do nothing to accomodate yours.
If a pattern is established with this, I bolt.
If a pattern is established with this, I bolt.
Accomodating someone's quirks in your life while they do nothing to accomodate yours.
If a pattern is established with this, I bolt.
If a pattern is established with this, I bolt.
Posted by size zero superhero
This response right here summarizes the glaring logical fallacy evident in the argument. How exactly is it that male sexual urges are excusable as a side-effect of testosterone, whereas when women act on their desires it is seen as a moral compromise or character deficiency? Mutual consent implies that both parties are in the market for action.
Why does the onus of personal responsibility fall upon the woman, yet the man's eager participation may be dismissed under the Boys Will Be Boys-amendment?
Clearly, many of you didn't get the "put a raw steak" example. Many of you don't seem to realize that prostitution is the oldest profession either. Back in the day a guy had to BUY the steak/fuck for his urges, and the prostitute who could fuck a 100 men in a week had the brains to get paid for it. Difference today? Women's attitude or dense thought process is fuck the guy for free, you get the guy. So here we have these women (some) who will go through 100 men thinking it will get her a boyfriend, and others have been burned by men who can't control their urges (yes, men's drive is much higher than women, and it will always be that way LOGICAL AND FACT..) and women say to themselves "well, if a man can do this so can I"...
1. Men want a girl who has a nice body, nice flowing hair, great sex & to look/sex him like his favorite porn star or celebrity, without realizing that if women had equally "standard" preferences, most men wouldn't make the cut.
He gains weight too, but doesn't expect to be cheated on or left for it. He may start balding or dealing with a receding hairline, but yet justifies their cheating or getting bored with the relationship b/c "she let herself go." He may have the smallest peen in the world, but yet expects his woman to love him "flaws n all" & for who he is on the inside, without acknowledging that if a woman had those same flaws, he wouldn't have approached her, made it official with her in the 1st place. They want you to look like Giselle B even though they are no Brad Pitt themselves
2. When a man is sick, depressed or down & out, he expects understanding & space. But when a woman has a baby (an 8 pound gallon of milk in her stomach for 9 months), let's herself go or has her moments of depression, he doesn't have nearly as much mercy or understanding as he'd expect her to have. He wants a ride or die when it comes to his flaws, but yet that very same man will justify cheating, leaving her or wanting out of the relationship when it comes to her "flaws n all." He can barely handle it when he has the flu for 3 days, but yet doesn't have the same level of understanding or mercy when a woman has a freakin' baby!!
3. Men buy expensive cars, rims, houses & material things along with getting unnecessary muscles & wearing muscle shirts. They flash their power, status, looks & "taste" in a woman's face to impress who? WOMEN. They market themselves & validate themselves by what they "have" but yet criticize women for only noticing/focusing on what they "have." But if a woman wears flashy clothes, has more power/status/money than him, or wears outfits that make her body look amazing by what she shows off, men consider her either too independent or tell her that she needs to stop validating her worth by what she looks like or what she has (materials or the respect of men). It's ok for him to sell his soul for the likes of women, but when a woman sells her soul, she's got "daddy issues" or low self-esteem. See the contradiction & double standard there?!
4. A man is given a pat on the back for all the sexy women he bangs & takes home to mama, but thinks the women who look for eye candy are being shallow & get hell for it!
He gains weight too, but doesn't expect to be cheated on or left for it. He may start balding or dealing with a receding hairline, but yet justifies their cheating or getting bored with the relationship b/c "she let herself go." He may have the smallest peen in the world, but yet expects his woman to love him "flaws n all" & for who he is on the inside, without acknowledging that if a woman had those same flaws, he wouldn't have approached her, made it official with her in the 1st place. They want you to look like Giselle B even though they are no Brad Pitt themselves
2. When a man is sick, depressed or down & out, he expects understanding & space. But when a woman has a baby (an 8 pound gallon of milk in her stomach for 9 months), let's herself go or has her moments of depression, he doesn't have nearly as much mercy or understanding as he'd expect her to have. He wants a ride or die when it comes to his flaws, but yet that very same man will justify cheating, leaving her or wanting out of the relationship when it comes to her "flaws n all." He can barely handle it when he has the flu for 3 days, but yet doesn't have the same level of understanding or mercy when a woman has a freakin' baby!!
3. Men buy expensive cars, rims, houses & material things along with getting unnecessary muscles & wearing muscle shirts. They flash their power, status, looks & "taste" in a woman's face to impress who? WOMEN. They market themselves & validate themselves by what they "have" but yet criticize women for only noticing/focusing on what they "have." But if a woman wears flashy clothes, has more power/status/money than him, or wears outfits that make her body look amazing by what she shows off, men consider her either too independent or tell her that she needs to stop validating her worth by what she looks like or what she has (materials or the respect of men). It's ok for him to sell his soul for the likes of women, but when a woman sells her soul, she's got "daddy issues" or low self-esteem. See the contradiction & double standard there?!
4. A man is given a pat on the back for all the sexy women he bangs & takes home to mama, but thinks the women who look for eye candy are being shallow & get hell for it!
Posted by krysrenee7
^^^ Bingo!
Under no theory is it fair, rational or logical to minimize criticism in what a man does, but maximize criticism when a woman does the very same thing. Double standards are not fair or rational, no matter how you slice it.
Under no circumstances should/can the pot call the kettle black
There's no criticism here. When I'm out and I see the barely dressed women throwing themselves at men out there, it's a good weeding out process for me personally. Weeding out meaning..watching and determining which men are desperately horny going after that quick piece and who the gentlemen are turned off by that. It's a great tool. So sluts are a positive thing for all involved imo. AND IT'S FREE!
@LetItBe: You're trying to justify double standards on behalf of the male species but give no credibility or see no justification with the double standards that women may have.
You're trying to make men's double standards somehow the natural or like they're really not even double standards at all. No matter how much you try to explain it, justify it or butter it up, double standards are like stereotypes...can't justify them, nor can the pot ever call the kettle black.
Double standards are a choice. It's a mentality that you've been told is unfair & represents a double standard, but yet continue to feed into it & justify it anyways. Choice.
You're trying to make men's double standards somehow the natural or like they're really not even double standards at all. No matter how much you try to explain it, justify it or butter it up, double standards are like stereotypes...can't justify them, nor can the pot ever call the kettle black.
Double standards are a choice. It's a mentality that you've been told is unfair & represents a double standard, but yet continue to feed into it & justify it anyways. Choice.
Posted by krysrenee7
1. Men want a girl who has a nice body, nice flowing hair, great sex & to look/sex him like his favorite porn star or celebrity, without realizing that if women had equally "standard" preferences, most men wouldn't make the cut.
He gains weight too, but doesn't expect to be cheated on or left for it. He may start balding or dealing with a receding hairline, but yet justifies their cheating or getting bored with the relationship b/c "she let herself go." He may have the smallest peen in the world, but yet expects his woman to love him "flaws n all" & for who he is on the inside, without acknowledging that if a woman had those same flaws, he wouldn't have approached her, made it official with her in the 1st place. They want you to look like Giselle B even though they are no Brad Pitt themselves
2. When a man is sick, depressed or down & out, he expects understanding & space. But when a woman has a baby (an 8 pound gallon of milk in her stomach for 9 months), let's herself go or has her moments of depression, he doesn't have nearly as much mercy or understanding as he'd expect her to have. He wants a ride or die when it comes to his flaws, but yet that very same man will justify cheating, leaving her or wanting out of the relationship when it comes to her "flaws n all." He can barely handle it when he has the flu for 3 days, but yet doesn't have the same level of understanding or mercy when a woman has a freakin' baby!!
3. Men buy expensive cars, rims, houses & material things along with getting unnecessary muscles & wearing muscle shirts. They flash their power, status, looks & "taste" in a woman's face to impress who? WOMEN. They market themselves & validate themselves by what they "have" but yet criticize women for only noticing/focusing on what they "have." But if a woman wears flashy clothes, has more power/status/money than him, or wears outfits that make her body look amazing by what she shows off, men consider her either too independent or tell her that she needs to stop validating her worth by what she looks like or what she has (materials or the respect of men). It's ok for him to sell his soul for the likes of women, but when a woman sells her soul, she's got "daddy issues" or low self-esteem. See the contradiction & double standard there?!
4. A man is given a pat on the back for all the sexy women he bangs & takes home to mama, but th
lol...That sounds like the typical whiney ass bitch who got burned victim story. Very weak, pathetic and insecure. A woman who is self confident, secure and happy with herself wouldn't give a rats ass what men like that think. I thought you had a phd in psychology krys? lol...
Posted by krysrenee7
@LetItBe: You're trying to justify double standards on behalf of the male species but give no credibility or see no justification with the double standards that women may have.
You're trying to make men's double standards somehow the natural or like they're really not even double standards at all. No matter how much you try to explain it, justify it or butter it up, double standards are like stereotypes...can't justify them, nor can the pot ever call the kettle black.
Double standards are a choice. It's a mentality that you've been told is unfair & represents a double standard, but yet continue to feed into it & justify it anyways. Choice.
Nope, wrong again Ms. proclaimed PHD..
there's men who can control their sex drive and respect women(some of who spoke up here), and there's MANY men who cannot control themselves and do not respect women and get laid by the woman who doesn't respect herself. THE POINT IS THERE'S NO DOUBLE STANDARD. If a woman wants to dangle her sexuality and flaunt it to a man and fucks him on a whim, she's going to get the man who is into a free for all and get exactly what she went after and feels she deserves at that moment. It doesn't give her the right to come back and whine that there's a double standard. Give it a rest.
...oh and I do agree with ONE thing you said Krys..
"Choice." Either take responsibility for those choices, or shut the fuck up. A woman who chooses the freebie route, doesn't get to complain about it. It was HER CHOICE to lay down with the horny bastard who is only in for that quick piece of steak.
"Choice." Either take responsibility for those choices, or shut the fuck up. A woman who chooses the freebie route, doesn't get to complain about it. It was HER CHOICE to lay down with the horny bastard who is only in for that quick piece of steak.
Posted by krysrenee7
Woman gets cheated on: She should forgive him b/c no man is perfect & we all make mistakes.
Guy gets cheated on: Leaves her high & dry. He's not trying to hear that "we all make mistakes" sh***t lol
What the hell kind of bullshit are you babbling about this time?
What utter bullshit, which apparently your mind isn't able to grasp ... the only person double standard in this scenario ... is the female.
It seems to me that most, if not all, of your posts are in place so you can blame others for yourself ... you have zero self accountability and a person only has to read your history to see how every thread you make takes all responsibility off of you.
Posted by size zero superhero
Oh, no need for that TL;DR justification. You live deep in the heart of Lostcauseville, I was simply citing your post as an example--and the subsequent posts were counterproductive if anything & certainly don't help yr case, brosephine.
I see...this isn't about a discussion/debate, you're just another resentful bitch on dxp who has nothing better to do than to fail at trying to belittle someone to lift yourself up. Got it.
~sigh~
Jeez...now you are choking on the resentment, poor thing. May the sunshine find you this weekend and bring you some peace...
~wink~
~wink~
Posted by size zero superhero
Resentment for what? You can keep throwing out that term, but it's meaningless unless you can apply it in context. Which, of course you can't, without embellishment & reaching.
And furthermore, what does it matter whether or not Krys has a Ph.D IRL? Would it discount her input if she didn't, or validate it if she does? But no, for some inexplicable reason, your dusty opinions are above reproach & criticism.
Girl, bye.
Feeling better yet?
oh honey...here..double the sunshine for the double chin & the double standard whatever stuff...
Is THAT better now?
Is THAT better now?
and a wittle winky too....
Honestly, in my opinion, BOTH men and women repulse me if they're the type to indiscriminately sleep around...
Posted by size zero superhero
You're flopping hard
Me? No, like I said before to the guy saying that no guy wants the "used rotting meat", why would a girl want a guy who eats that nasty meat regularly?
In my eyes, guys should be judged just as much as women.
Germs ain't sexist.
Posted by notyourtypePosted by LetltB
in 95% of the time the man is USING you until he finds the lady with self respect and standards. Sounds too old school does it? Well..I say to each her own..you want to fuck 100 men? Great..I look at it as the guy getting his practice in and saving the rest for the ladies he chooses as the one.
But why would any smart lady of high standards and a lot to offer want to date a guy with a history like that? Therein lies the hypocrisy/double standard.
A woman who's sexually selective will want to date a man who's equally selective. Because she respects herself, she will want to date a man who respects her as well as OTHER women (as opposed to using them as tools to "practice" with, as you noted).
.click to expand
The point is she wouldn't date someone like that. Why would she? Same reason why a gentleman wouldn't be with a woman who let herself be used up like a passenger train station.
Again it's what krys said...it comes down to choices and taking responsibility for those choices.
Posted by notyourtype
But why would any smart lady of high standards
But, that's not what RenesKrysAlot is talking about.
In order for a man to place standards of any kind onto a woman ... she has to be present, she has to stay with him AFTER he's cheated.
Her whole argument makes the insinuation that the people remain a couple after he cheats ...
Which is just her babbling again about bullshit.
By this argument, she makes the insinuation that it's perfectly ok to stay in a relationship after cheating, in that the way he treats her afterwards should be the issue.
What utter nonsense.
Posted by notyourtype
The way I see it, if you don't want to date a woman who's slept with a multitude of men, then you shouldn't sleep with a multitude of women either. You can't expect her to have zero F-buddies when you, yourself, have had 100. That's ridiculous... demanding a woman who can control her sexual urges when you are unwilling (note: "unwilling", not UNABLE) to do the same.
Since you're a female, you appear to be just like Krys ... in that you take no responsibility in choosing your sleeping partners.
It's not up to him to decide whether you're fuck worthy or not ... and that is what your argument above suggests.
His standards are irrelevant, and what he likes or dislikes isn't of consequence of your decisions that you make for yourself.
But, like Krys, and others ... you place the burden of responsibility on him to decide whether he should approve of you or not.
What utter bullshit.
Unless it's publicly known what # of people you've had sex with, why would one want to know, other than for the purpose of judging you? If you have standards, hold yourself accountable for your behavior and your partners safety, and have had multiple partners, what true difference does the actual # make? Except for when I was really young, I've never asked that question of someone, nor would I have answered it if were asked of me. People have so many different types of relationships in which sex is involved: marriage, FWB, one night stands, dating...who is to say or judge which type is worthy of having sex or not. Unless your sexual prowess is to intentionally hurt someone, degrade them, mislead them...why would the # matter? In either sex, how does this make you a lesser human being?
^^^^^^ it doesn't matter ... but, that isn't what this thread was created for.
As usual, Rene-Krys-A-lot needed to complain ... so she made a thread with intentions of putting all of her responsibility onto the guy, because she isn't capable of owning herself.
Her argument can only exist if she stays with the cheater, in order for any kind of double standard to be present on his part.
Posted by DamnataPosted by tiziani
The biggest one that I've encountered = expecting emotional loyalty yet holding the right to secrecy.
That's not a double standard, it's the water sign motto in life.click to expand
Yes. Say it again!
For the proud ~Ladies~ who some consider you as a stick in the mud, old fashioned and lives life proudly in the present..
(SOME ANCIENT WORDS OF WISDOM)
(SOME ANCIENT WORDS OF WISDOM)
How does preferences have anything to do with double standards?
In fact if some women had their shit together, they should be GLAD a man knows what he wants, and should move on without wasting energy. Why waste time on that guy when there's another guy out there who IS attracted to her?? Unless of course he's just out to use her up, and lies until his preference shows up.
Men..get the hint a woman is turned off much quicker and WILL move on to the next. Unless of course she's one of those desperate females who strings him along, and lies until her preference does show up...
There's thread after thread like these...^^
P.S. Anyone who tells me I'm not entitled to a preference I laugh at them.
In fact if some women had their shit together, they should be GLAD a man knows what he wants, and should move on without wasting energy. Why waste time on that guy when there's another guy out there who IS attracted to her?? Unless of course he's just out to use her up, and lies until his preference shows up.
Men..get the hint a woman is turned off much quicker and WILL move on to the next. Unless of course she's one of those desperate females who strings him along, and lies until her preference does show up...
There's thread after thread like these...^^
P.S. Anyone who tells me I'm not entitled to a preference I laugh at them.
"You're just like Krys?"
LMAO! Apparently, you know me personally now. Apparently you've forgotten that you still don't know or can't speak of my 1st & last name, which is pretty damn ironic, considering you're constantly trying to tell me/others who/what I am. Gotta love ya =P
Secondly, double standards affect everyone to some degree, just like discrimination does. When someone justifies the pot calling the kettle black...well there's no justification for it. But of course a person with double standards wouldn't understand that. They're too busy dishing out what they'd hate for others to do with them.
Thanks for analysis though P-Angel. Oh & thanks for once again blessing us with your presence on the thread of a person you despise so much. Boredom must be a demon you're struggling to overcome still smh poor baby!!! Good to see ya again! #SARCASM Nice try! Try again mf
LMAO! Apparently, you know me personally now. Apparently you've forgotten that you still don't know or can't speak of my 1st & last name, which is pretty damn ironic, considering you're constantly trying to tell me/others who/what I am. Gotta love ya =P
Secondly, double standards affect everyone to some degree, just like discrimination does. When someone justifies the pot calling the kettle black...well there's no justification for it. But of course a person with double standards wouldn't understand that. They're too busy dishing out what they'd hate for others to do with them.
Thanks for analysis though P-Angel. Oh & thanks for once again blessing us with your presence on the thread of a person you despise so much. Boredom must be a demon you're struggling to overcome still smh poor baby!!! Good to see ya again! #SARCASM Nice try! Try again mf
But why would any smart lady of high standards and a lot to offer want to date a guy with a history like that? Therein lies the hypocrisy/double standard.
A woman who's sexually selective will want to date a man who's equally selective. Because she respects herself, she will want to date a man who respects her as well as OTHER women (as opposed to using them as tools to "practice" with, as you noted).
The way I see it, if you don't want to date a woman who's slept with a multitude of men, then you shouldn't sleep with a multitude of women either. You can't expect her to have zero F-buddies when you, yourself, have had 100. That's ridiculous... demanding a woman who can control her sexual urges when you are unwilling (note: "unwilling", not UNABLE) to do the same.
Posted by munchkin
Honestly, in my opinion, BOTH men and women repulse me if they're the type to indiscriminately sleep around...
Exactly. A guy is hardly a stud if he frequently screws "sluts". Major turn-off.
Perhaps I can add some clarity here.
Why would a woman with high standards and lots to offer want to date a male slut, you ask?
A woman who's sexually selective will want to date a man who's equally selective, you say?
First, ladies with high standards and lots to offer may not want to date a man with a long list of sexual conquests, but in all but a very few cases, has little other choice --- if she wants the equal qualities in a man (looks, personality, social status, earning potential). See, the men that women find attractive (power, money, A+ looks) have the most opportunities for sex, therefore most likely (errr....definitely) have taken advantage of the opportunities presented. And women (even top notch women) don't give a damn. They just hope to be the one that hooks the big fish. How many trophies has Clooney run through now, and on national TV no less? Have they stopped lining up yet?
Now, as for being "selective". Men that can be selective will be, but that only means that they are turning down D's and C's, for A's and B's. It's not so much about being selective for a man as it is taking advantage of which "opportunities" that present themselves.
There are exceptions, of course. The least attractive among males, and liars.
Hope that made sense, but if not, and after myself reading through this thread, you ladies should listen to LIB
Posted by CapTenn
But why would any smart lady of high standards and a lot to offer ...
She won't.
But, that's not the argument here.
Posted by size zero superheroPosted by CapTenn
First, ladies with high standards and lots to offer may not want to date a man with a long list of sexual conquests, but in all but a very few cases, has little other choice --- if she wants the equal qualities in a man (looks, personality, social status, earning potential). See, the men that women find attractive (power, money, A+ looks) have the most opportunities for sex, therefore most likely (errr....definitely) have taken advantage of the opportunities presented. And women (even top notch women) don't give a damn. They just hope to be the one that hooks the big fish.
Many of these women looking to reel in the biggest fish, as you put it, are overwhelmingly driven by an attraction to a life style which they lack the means or determination to obtain on their own--the lap of luxury, to be precise--which of course, the vast majority of humanity has not and will NEVER attain.
Furthermore I'd like to point out that you admittedly don't want to be held to the same set of expectations that women are subject to. Yet at the same time, you oppose the idea that women should be upgraded to the same lax behavioral & sexual standards as a man. How convenient--each of those stances equate to your demographic getting the benefit of the doubt.
As someone else already mentioned in this thread, "what's good for the goose is good for the gander". No worries though, there are plenty of sycophant women who are about that second-class-citizen life, and try to police other women when it comes to following ~proper, ladylike protocol.
Those ones were successfully indoctrinated and can't help but drink the Kool-Aid...if anything, please excuse them.click to expand
No, I don't want to be held to the same standards as women, because --- I am not a woman. And, you don't want to be held to the same standards as a man either. I seriously doubt you'd trade your standard gender role for any male's, and you aren't capable or equipped anyway. This dissatisfaction with one's lot in life seems to be almost exclusively a female thing. Men an women are different, always will be. Women are better at some things, and men are better at others. Men seem to accept these facts, and why a growing majority of women cannot is a head scratcher. It's equivalent to piss
^^^^
It's equivalent to pissing in the wind.
It's equivalent to pissing in the wind.
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