Evil (Page 2)

yeah your response shows how mature you are.

I wasnt talking to you Luz. I was talking to Kandy and they deleted her disguting posts. Your friend is a low life, and you are starting to sound that way to. I think you are dispectful and I dont think you should talk to me like that. You wouldnt run be running your mouth like that if we were face to face! And that would be not from violence or harsh words.

actually i would wonderbox, i dont care if i'm disrespecting you or not. I just stated my opinion and the term "little girls" does put some effect to it dont you think? Maybe it was just a misunderstanding but dont expect me to stand back and watch you run your mouth at me ok? Just because im younger than you doesnt mean that you have the right to say whatever you feel. If thats the case then i guess i can say whatever i feel too.

Luz,
I do have a right! I am the adult not you; I am older than you are; I know more than you do, and you need to be quite and listen. That is how you learn. You can act tough behind a computer screen, but I guarantee you would not act that way in front of me. I have to deal with people everyday like you, only much worse! I have heard it all before. They know when I am serious and they know when to be quite, and all I have to do is look at them; they are not as bad as they think they are. Maybe you just need a hug. Maybe that is all it is, alot more hugs!?? Maybe your friend Kandy needs some too— And then sometimes hugs or nothing works and you been running roughed too long and end up in a place that is not so good. You wish you had me giving them. Maybe when you get older you will figure it out. That is all I gonna say about it. Goodnight!

omg wonderbox, im sorry if you have a tough life? And how can you say that just because you're older than me that you know more?? i find that amusing. I'm not acting "tough" behind a screen, and like you said, i can express my thoughts/opinions am i right? And besides, the thing i said above there is not 'acting' its just a known fact that i WOULD say my thoughts infront of YOUR face irl. And you know what? that's really a poor excuse to have the "right" to say things to my face just because you're an adult, that doesnt mean anything when it comes down to it. Maybe you do more than me in some areas but that doesn't mean that you have to necessarily single me out and judge me just because i am younger than you.

wonderbox, i'm sure that you're having a hard time right now, and i'm sure everyone else has their hard times to. So whatever it is, i'm sure that you will surpass it, i dont know. Maybe my last post wasnt really compassionate towards your situation, i guess i was just being defensive because i dont like how i was judged by my age. And i'm sure this is just all a misunderstanding...but anyway, i didnt mean anyway to hurt you directly. But the posts that i put up only talked about you running your mouth at me and that i would do the same to you too since i have that right also. And me defending myself after you made that comment about the "baby game". That is all, we dont know eachother well enough to make any other judgements, so i'll just end it right here. night

My my..firstly I really don't see that Luz was picking sides...just stating the obvious. You talk about being an adult...why don't you act like it and write something legitimate and rational other than throwing a tanty at someone (Luz) who was rationally stating an opinion.

If you are not interested in the kind of toilet paper we have then that's ok. And "I am not going to get away with that" statement of yours, what are you going to do exactly? Take a flight to Oz and beat me up? The thought terrifies me...can...barely..type..shaking....for goodness sake!

Just b/c us Aussies aren't a bunch of saps and choose to have the attitude that we won't be beaten by any terrorist activity, and choose to GET ON WITH IT rather than wallow in self pity, DOES NOT MEAN that it hasn't shocked and saddened us. You may be an adult, but your words and mindset is that of a child. You sit there comfortably on your non existant throne and pass judgements upon other ppl and nations without taking into considerations such as cultural differences and the way different ppl deal with tragedy.

The survivors of this tragedy after ONE WEEK were back out partying with their mates...having drinks on behalf of those that did not survive. They laughed, they cried and they had a great time...so I guess the survivors themselves must have something terribly wrong with them too and are incredibly stupid. Personally I don't hold to that, I see them as hereos that have not been defeated.

As for the focus being that Howy didn't use the word evil...you obviously have no sense of humour and indeed have much to learn. It was one sentence..hardly the focus.

Basically I have no idea why I am wasting time with this. You know nothing about me and Cortica who is the most generous person I know in all respects. Comments about my mother just shows your level of immaturity...and the fact that someone is 'brain dead' JUST b/c they don't mirror yourself and your lack of education is another example.

This board is not my entire life, so I shall respond to posts here as I wish to and not be dictated by you on WHAT I should write or HOW I should feel.

P.S. Cortica's post, as mine was in response to a question asked by Pheonix...perhaps you should get on her case too for not being sensitive to the current situation in asking the question in the first place...or maybe Heather is just another one of us that WON'T BE BEATEN!

When you reach puberty it's going to hurt! OUch!

LOL@deleted post!

Apparently I'm not allowed to insult you Wonderbox.

You couldnt insult me.

Only people I respect and have a place in my life can do that!!!LOL

I guess we are both being deleted!hehe

Oh my gosh.

Okay first of all, what the hell is this fight even about? Not to butt in, but yes, I was the first to reference tp and you know what? I'm allowed! Age is irrelevant, which is something that is made clearer and clearer to me every day. I have seen incredibly immature behavior from people who are much past their prime, and I have seen incredibly mature behavior from even children. And all variations in between. You can be dumb as a rock and be ninety years old, and sharp as a tack at the age of ten. Give me a break. There is no place for ageism in this world. It's about wisdom and experience, and there are a great many young people who have been through a hell of a lot more in their short time on earth than your average elder--I know this for a fact. Pick on someone your own size, or better yet, don't pick on anyone at all for expressing themselves. If you have a legitimate argument against a point of view then by all means, argue about THAT. But to resort to the old "I'm older than you so I'm smarter than you" trick, PUH-LEEEEEZE.

PR,

I wish you would stop and think about what it is you say before you post. If a person is alive on earth 90 years, your gonna tell me they no less than one who has been her 10?? Now you are showing your age! DUH!

And when you are as old as your parents or myself you might be able to figure out what I was trying to get across. In the meantime, —??

wonderbox or suzy Q, whoever you are, im sorry but you're seriously a biznotch to ppl. actually i shouldnt even be saying sorry, i take it back.

In the meantime, what, wonderbox? Are you telling me to shut up because I disagree with you? LOL! Oh, and I'm quite happy being the age I am...I love being young and open minded! 🙂

Luz, you have no reason to apologize for anything--you have every right to express your opinions and unless you're hurting someone, keep doing it!

What is this the Buffy and Jody Show—

Wonderbox..what planet are you from?? I am older than you are and I know that age has nothing to do with knowledge and wisdom...

My parents (God love them!) know jack...!!

People who are narrow-minded have trouble learning and growing in their knowledge as a result...
It happens all the time...even on this board!!

The key to wisdom is to realize that you know nothing...read Albert's quotes...

Phoenix and Luz show wisdom beyond their years that I find refreshing! Why would you want to repress that??

Ok...I am a bit pissed. I mean what you say just shows your own ignorance and stupidity...gawd!

Get over yourself, WB/SQ!

My father thinks he knows everything...he is an alcoholic...he thinks he knows more because he is older...

How strong do you think my relationship with him is? Do you think I respect him? Do you think I value his opinion?

My daughter is 30 years younger than I am...she is an 'old soul'. She has wisdom beyond her years! We respect and value each other's opinions...
We help each other get through the dutiful family gatherings where there are those who think they know everything!! LOL!
I wouldn't trade anything to be you, with your small mind, WB/SQ!

Oh that's right...you've confessed that you just recently quit drinking...

OK...that wasn't nice. But, I hate the 'alcoholic mentality' and that is what you are exhibiting...

Star,

Show some respect for me and your parents!

And as far as being a drunk, I think you have crossed my personal boundery line! You dont know anything about me.

Star, thank you for the compliment and thank you for backing up my point 🙂

"We help each other get through the dutiful family gatherings where there are those who think they know everything!!"

LOL! Weird, that sounds EXACTLY like me and MY aqua mom! Your daughter wouldn't perchance be a scorpy would she? hehe...

"The key to wisdom is to realize that you know nothing..."

This is something I've heard quoted before many times and I believe it wholeheartedly. Nobody knows it all and I for one certainly don't judge a person based on how old they are! The first thing I look at is how kind they are to other people--and believe me, there are a lot of azzholes out there who have a lot of years on me. The second thing I look at is open-mindedness, because people who are completely closed off to all new ideas and concepts and systems of belief frustrate me to no end, so I find myself completely cutting off from them for my own sanity. The point I'm trying to make at the end of the day is that in my opinion, intelligence has zero to do with age. I find a person with much "intelligence" and little wisdom to be nothing impressive at all, and usually very boring. I am much more likely to think of a person as "smart" if they have wisdom, something completely seperate from intelligence. What's that other quote? I think it goes, "Those who speak loudest, think least".

pheonix/star you smart thing you ^^ LOL star? i would LOVE to be in ur family...er more like your daughter, that would be so fun to just sit with relative/family gatherings and argue while the mom and the daughter team up HAHAHHAHAHAHA i dont know.

SQ, I never said you were a drunk. I said you were exhibiting 'alcoholic mentality'...unfortunately, this is something I am familiar with...

Also, respect is something that must be earned. I love my parents. I am a good, dutiful daughter, but, I do let them know when they are getting too out of line. I have learned to speak to my Dad in the language he understands...it works! For instance, we can be in Minneapolis (he drives terrible in the city and I believe he suffers from road rage or he just thinks everyone else should stay out of his way! LOL! Not an easy feat to accomplish in the city!!) What usually happens is he will suddenly decide to take a different route and expects my Mom to know where he is and where he should turn. She starts getting real nervous and fumbles with the maps. He is fuming. If I am along, I have learned to diffuse the situation by saying, in his own language, 'How the hell do you expect her to know where you are? You are the one who decided to take a different route!Je $ u $ , do you want me to drive?' (I don't say this meanly. I actually smile and say it jokingly...because I am not truly mad at them..I just know their pattern and if the situation is not diffused, it will soon be uncomfortable for everyone). For one thing, he knows that I am not fond of driving, and I have no sense of direction...(Yikes!)
So, what happens? He starts to laugh...Mom relaxes, and can focus on the map better and we all get to our destination safely....happy ending!! LOL!

My parents will have to earn my respect just like anyone else...but, I will love them and stand by them and do the best possible for them. They are not naturally kind and giving people. Me and my siblings are. (although, I do have 2 firstborn sisters...according to birth order! God help me!! LOL!)

Phoenix, LOL! I don't think I knew your Mom is Aqua! Maybe I did...but, I forgot! My daughter is Aqua also...born on my birthday!! You are quite welcome. I always enjoy your posts and never feel that there was no thought behind them! I find you to be intelligent, amusing, inspiring...also practical, analytical (necessary sometimes), and soft-hearted...all good qualities. I think you have a realistic point of view, with perhaps some wistful dreams mixed in now and then...but, I have that too! LOL! Maybe we are related??!! LOL!

Luz, it is a given! You are my 2nd daughter! My other daughter and I will show you the ropes! See, you can't exactly argue with my family...that causes military action (!@!) LOL!, you just have to bring points to light in a lighthearted manner.....

"Those who speak loudest, think least".

I totally disagree with that. If you want to voice an opinion and make sure your opinion is heard, are you considered "less of a thinker"? Maybe you're considered rude and annoying but not any less of a thinker or whatever you wanna say.

Just had to say that because I happen to be very loud and talk too much ^^

LOL I REBEL!

NO KANDY YOU BIZNOTCH, SHE MEANS IF YOU SPEAK LIKE YOU KNOW EVERYTHING, THEN ITS MOST LIKELY THAT YOU DONT KNOW JACK butter, DUH *spanks her*

BUT I DO KNOW EVERYTHING FOOL

Then you have nothing to worry about, my child ^^

Do you think that the world could ever exist with out evil? Do you think that anyone would accept a world without evil? Most people wouldn't because they're just too jaded. You offer them a really great deal and they become suspicious. Oh well... Is human nature really evil? Or do we just enjoy taking advantage of people? And hey, can we say that we earned because of all the sacrifices we had to make to get to the position where we can take advantage? What would you change so that we wouldn't have to fight to get what we want? You'd have to change the way everyone thinks, and that's an awfully hard task, because deep down nobody really wants to change.

Morgan
Read Rousseau's "Origin of Inequality" and it'll explain it to you no matter how lost you are.

Yes, Morgan...you are quite correct, nobody wants to change and those who try to change someone play the fool.

Ahhh... but Star... don't you see? You are SUPPOSED to argue with Morgan, not disagree. You are going to ruin all her fun.

What are you talking about Gwen? You make no sense.

hehe.. I know... it's been a long day. I meant agree and you know that

"Do you think that the world could ever exist with out evil? Do you think that anyone would accept a world without evil? Most people wouldn't because they're just too jaded. You offer them a really great deal and they become suspicious. Oh well... Is human nature really evil? Or do we just enjoy taking advantage of people? And hey, can we say that we earned because of all the sacrifices we had to make to get to the position where we can take advantage? What would you change so that we wouldn't have to fight to get what we want? You'd have to change the way everyone thinks, and that's an awfully hard task, because deep down nobody really wants to change."


Boy, you are a deep thinker. Can we survive without evil
or wickedness? Well, of course we can. We can choose to be evil, or we can choose to be good; case in point, God and Satan were discussing "Job"(if you know the bible, you know this)
Satan say's, remove your protection from him and he will not serve you.
God says , you got to be kidding! Job chooses to serve me because he loves me!. Satan says, let me have a go at him. God say, ok, but you can't take his life, well, the end result is, no matter what Satan did to Job, and Job
lost everything he had, his family, his land, his home, but, he chose to serve
the living God, and all was returned to him several times over. The point to all this is simple, "choices" choose the way you will go, this is an over simplified answer, but the best I can do.

There is no good and evil..only power (Spiderman). Would have to agree on that point.

Oh you are wrong about that LG!

Suzy-Q I think you have to admit that in many circumstances there is no clear cut choice between good and evil. Isn't Satan the Great Deciever? Often times we can only choose between the lesser of two evils. Sacrifices have to be made, and we can only hope that with the choices we make we do more good than we do harm.

If life was only a series of clear cut choices between good and evil, it would be a lot easier. I don't think that people try to be evil, I just think that it's hard to determine what is "best". I can't understand how you can say that there is always a "good" and an "evil" in a situation. Ultimately, you would have to claim that you could control all the long term affects of that decision, and that you had ultimate power over all the variables, which, if you ask me not only seems absurd, but also extremely arrogant.

Wow
you always, for the most part, have a choice, and the choice is not alway's about "good and evil" You don't have to be a rocket scientist to choose good
over evil, that's fundemental.

I like that response, but were talking about choosing between good and evil,
and NO ONE IS GOING TO CHOOSE EVIL. Satan comes as a messenger of light
he has that power, but a true child of God knows the difference.
Amen!

lol good and evil my ass. I think i understand at some point of what Lawgoddess is saying, no matter what, even if we do put ourselves into categories of "Evil" and "Good" There will be no limit to what a person could be. Because that person can always switch back. But thats just how i see it... lawgoddess could be saying something else, but wutevers.

"NO ONE IS GOING TO CHOOSE EVIL"

Suzy-Q, I disagree. How do you explain all the bad that happens in the world if it is evil? And if the choice between good and evil is that simple and everyone would choose good... then I do not understand your reasoning. Unless of course you meant that the evil ones are not "a true child of God". By this definition, I am evil and many people I know are evil because of their religious convictions. I do not believe in the concepts of the ultimate good or evil but, as morgan puts it, the lesser of the two evils or the greater of the two goods (sort of like that half-empty or half-full idea). Selfishness, I think, is at the heart of most of the problems of the world but selfishness is just the way that individualism and wanting a better life is manifested in people. I wouldn't cll selfishness evil.

Oh and Suzy, if you take your religion and put it on the self for a little while while you answer this post, I'd be interested in what you have to say. My prolem is that when you speak in religious terms and use quotes from the bible, the only thing I can say to you is that I don't follow the bible, which would start s on another tangent.

Also, evil would have to be pretty stupid to go around flaunting itself as evil. Evil is supposed to be tempting, and it would be tempting if every automatically recognized at evil. I really don't think evil is that bad at playing chess. I think that sometimes evil looks a lot "better" than "good", which makes it hard to tell the difference. But I guess all those "True Children of God" are all smarter than the Devil. Huh, that's odd. If that's the case, then I really have to ask you what a "true child of god" is, because if it's just a Christian, you'd be saying that all the Christian would never do anything bad, which even if you don't know your history, you would jave to admit sounds like a pretty stupid statement in itself.

Also, evil would have to be pretty stupid to go around flaunting itself as evil. Evil is supposed to be tempting, and it would be tempting if every automatically recognized at evil. I really don't think evil is that bad at playing chess. I think that sometimes evil looks a lot "better" than "good", which makes it hard to tell the difference. But I guess all those "True Children of God" are all smarter than the Devil. Huh, that's odd. If that's the case, then I really have to ask you what a "true child of god" is, because if it's just a Christian, you'd be saying that all the Christian would never do anything bad, which even if you don't know your history, you would have to admit sounds like a pretty stupid statement in itself.