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I love this topic. When one animal evolves and becomes a different animal fitted for it's environment. Course it is a controversial topic to whether or not it existed. Some say dinosaurs existed long time ago and some don't even though there is evidence.
Darwin already tested this out and went to Galapagos Island to observe the creatures there. did drawings and notes, and a lot of analysis.

it's called survival too. you have to fit to survive in an environment that grows certain foods, plants, vegetation or die.
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I love this topic. When one animal evolves and becomes a different animal fitted for it's environment. Course it is a controversial topic to whether or not it existed. Some say dinosaurs existed long time ago and some don't even though there is evidence.
Darwin already tested this out and went to Galapagos Island to observe the creatures there. did drawings and notes, and a lot of analysis.

it's called survival too. you have to fit to survive in an environment that grows certain foods, plants, vegetation or die.
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Yea and there are bible thumpers trying to disprove with their bible.
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I love this topic. When one animal evolves and becomes a different animal fitted for it's environment. Course it is a controversial topic to whether or not it existed. Some say dinosaurs existed long time ago and some don't even though there is evidence.
Darwin already tested this out and went to Galapagos Island to observe the creatures there. did drawings and notes, and a lot of analysis.

it's called survival too. you have to fit to survive in an environment that grows certain foods, plants, vegetation or die.
Yea and there are bible thumpers trying to disprove with their bible.
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FACTS are facts.

they could do their own observation and analysis and go out there and do some WORK.

they are just closed-minded cause it doesn't fit into their "ideal" ....and religion is based of believing in something that is supposed to be good for you, help you, not make you stupid.
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I love this topic. When one animal evolves and becomes a different animal fitted for it's environment. Course it is a controversial topic to whether or not it existed. Some say dinosaurs existed long time ago and some don't even though there is evidence.
Darwin already tested this out and went to Galapagos Island to observe the creatures there. did drawings and notes, and a lot of analysis.

it's called survival too. you have to fit to survive in an environment that grows certain foods, plants, vegetation or die.
Yea and there are bible thumpers trying to disprove with their bible.


FACTS are facts.

they could do their own observation and analysis and go out there and do some WORK.

they are just closed-minded cause it doesn't fit into their "ideal" ....and religion is based of believing in something that is supposed to be good for you, help you, not make you stupid.

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To add theories to their beliefs that they really never think about. God put fish in the ocean. He didn't say what kind or how many. He left evolution so that they can diversify. Diversify meaning evolve to all these different species you see now. Same goes for the birds. He put birds in the air. He didn't say what kinds of birds or where he put them. Now they are lots of different species and all over the globe. The world is a harsh place and animals have to adapt to it or die out. Hence why dinosaurs are extinct.
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Why do people always make it about God versus religion? ?

As far as I'm concerned, they are just as close minded as the religious people they claim to be more open than.
Bible thumpers are some the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen. I don't know what their gain is in pushing their beliefs in people's throats. But it isn't working for them.
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So then why make your thread about them? It's as though you're derailing your own thread.

Is the purpose of your thread to discuss the theory of evolution or talk about how dumb you think a group of people is?
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Why do people always make it about God versus religion? ?

As far as I'm concerned, they are just as close minded as the religious people they claim to be more open than.
Bible thumpers are some the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen. I don't know what their gain is in pushing their beliefs in people's throats. But it isn't working for them.
So then why make your thread about them? It's as though you're derailing your own thread.

Is the purpose of your thread to discuss the theory of evolution or talk about how dumb you think a group of people is?
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It is about evolution and discussing it. Before any bible thumper comes in and say evolution doesn't exist. Im onto them. They'll do it anyways.
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From a viewpoint comparing evolution to the universe things have to be programmed with balance to work. Evolution is no different. Living matter will eventually absorb and use everything around it to its advantage. It will adapt, adjust, and do what ever it takes to continue. Its called being alive, and no one tells people or other living matter how to be alive. It does it all by itself, which is why it's programmed to work and intelligent by design imo.
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The only thing I had a hard time understanding was how does evolution happen genetically speaking?

Just because a giraffe needs a longer neck to reach his food--his brain rewrites the genetic code of his sex cells so that His offspring will have longer necks?

This was never explained in school nor can I find this info anywhere.

So my conclusion is this:

Women are born with all their eggs so our genetic material does not change throughout our lives due to environment unless exposed to radiation or medications or having a few genetically mutated eggs here and there.

Whereas men produce new sperm/sex cells throughout their lives. Maybe it's their sperm that is more easily influenced by their environment somehow?

Idk. How did a giraffe's genetic code change slowly over time to have a long neck?



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Our genetic material does not change during our life, I mean it doesn't evolve like that.

Long story short: Animals (including human's of course) in their reproduction give birth to millions of animals, some of them are born different (beings with, for example a third eye, or a little bit longer neck, things like that), this malformations or variations can cause death, or this animals can survive and live better than the "normal" ones (giraffes with longer neck). So they will reproduce, and give that feature to their descendants.

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The only thing I had a hard time understanding was how does evolution happen genetically speaking?

Just because a giraffe needs a longer neck to reach his food--his brain rewrites the genetic code of his sex cells so that His offspring will have longer necks?

This was never explained in school nor can I find this info anywhere.

So my conclusion is this:

Women are born with all their eggs so our genetic material does not change throughout our lives due to environment unless exposed to radiation or medications or having a few genetically mutated eggs here and there.

Whereas men produce new sperm/sex cells throughout their lives. Maybe it's their sperm that is more easily influenced by their environment somehow?

Idk. How did a giraffe's genetic code change slowly over time to have a long neck?


this is kind of what they try to decipher in the university, when you want to take classes,

they give you this comprehensive test, but you have to figure everything out yourself!!! you can't have any help.

this is what separates those who can think, analysis, and figure out things, and write it all down in precise way that is understanding.

if you score high, you are in the higher i.q. and basically get into higher lever classes.

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Why do people always make it about God versus religion? ?

As far as I'm concerned, they are just as close minded as the religious people they claim to be more open than.
I believe in God AND I like evolution.



I love to analyze, have good critical thinking skills, but also be one with the universe and know that the veil exists.

edit -

whoa lol astrology moment here!!

it's like I have water/fire - beliefs and spirituality and earth/air for analyztion good thinking skills all rolled into a package. 😆
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Posted by UnusualVaginalDischarge
The only thing I had a hard time understanding was how does evolution happen genetically speaking?

Just because a giraffe needs a longer neck to reach his food--his brain rewrites the genetic code of his sex cells so that His offspring will have longer necks?

This was never explained in school nor can I find this info anywhere.

So my conclusion is this:

Women are born with all their eggs so our genetic material does not change throughout our lives due to environment unless exposed to radiation or medications or having a few genetically mutated eggs here and there.

Whereas men produce new sperm/sex cells throughout their lives. Maybe it's their sperm that is more easily influenced by their environment somehow?

Idk. How did a giraffe's genetic code change slowly over time to have a long neck?


Combination of environment, predation and competition for resources.
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The only thing I had a hard time understanding was how does evolution happen genetically speaking?

Just because a giraffe needs a longer neck to reach his food--his brain rewrites the genetic code of his sex cells so that His offspring will have longer necks?

This was never explained in school nor can I find this info anywhere.

So my conclusion is this:

Women are born with all their eggs so our genetic material does not change throughout our lives due to environment unless exposed to radiation or medications or having a few genetically mutated eggs here and there.

Whereas men produce new sperm/sex cells throughout their lives. Maybe it's their sperm that is more easily influenced by their environment somehow?

Idk. How did a giraffe's genetic code change slowly over time to have a long neck?



----

Our genetic material does not change during our life, I mean it doesn't evolve like that.

Long story short: Animals (including human's of course) in their reproduction give birth to millions of animals, some of them are born different (beings with, for example a third eye, or a little bit longer neck, things like that), this malformations or variations can cause death, or this animals can survive and live better than the "normal" ones (giraffes with longer neck). So they will reproduce, and give that feature to their descendants.


Then evolution happens by accident through mutations rather than directly because of the environment? That's what I'm understanding
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yes, in part: mutations just occur by accident, but the environment "decides" if this change is useful or not. If it's useful this being will survive, and reproduce.

A giraffe gives birth to a giraffe with a longer neck, this change could be bad for her (cause her death) could be normal and don't affect her much, but it was good because she could reach taller trees, so she could eat more and become stronger, the fact of being stronger made this giraffe be a good specimen and, therefore, reproduce with other giraffes, so that this "upgrade" could be spreaded.

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I love this topic. When one animal evolves and becomes a different animal fitted for it's environment. Course it is a controversial topic to whether or not it existed. Some say dinosaurs existed long time ago and some don't even though there is evidence.
So do you believe in evolution?

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I do. I believe there are animals now evolving to our way of life. Mice find it as a way to hide from predators like owls. With most of the megafauna extinct, there is an open door for creatures to dominate their landscapes.
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What do you believe?




Even atheists admit it isn't proven, though they do go to great

lengths to rationalize what proven *really* means... it's just silly



Naturally, anyone who doesn't believe is labeled a nutcase-- which

ought to give a person pause... why is that?

Why is it such a big deal?

So, to answer your question, no... I don't believe in evolution.















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What do you believe?




Even atheists admit it isn't proven, though they do go to great

lengths to rationalize what proven *really* means... it's just silly



Naturally, anyone who doesn't believe is labeled a nutcase-- which

ought to give a person pause... why is that?

Why is it such a big deal?

So, to answer your question, no... I don't believe in evolution.

















Interesting. So do you have a theory?

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I never had a problem with the original one.

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What do you believe?




Even atheists admit it isn't proven, though they do go to great

lengths to rationalize what proven *really* means... it's just silly



Naturally, anyone who doesn't believe is labeled a nutcase-- which

ought to give a person pause... why is that?

Why is it such a big deal?

So, to answer your question, no... I don't believe in evolution.

















Interesting. So do you have a theory?


I never had a problem with the original one.




Creationism?
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Alienism. 😐





I kid... but yes-- the idea that any of this is random strikes me as absurd.



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I love this topic. Course it is a controversial topic to whether or not it existed.
yeah you so do not love this topic

Evolution is not controversial it's a proven fact. Just as "proven" as 2+2=4.
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I do too. I like dinosaurs. I like how one animal becomes another over time. Like a tiny pig-like creature become a horse. Or a vicious land animal becomes a whale.
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I love this topic. When one animal evolves and becomes a different animal fitted for it's environment. Course it is a controversial topic to whether or not it existed. Some say dinosaurs existed long time ago and some don't even though there is evidence.
Evolution is when a species as a population undergoes a genetic change in order to adapt to the environment. It happens slowly, and the results don't normally show for generations at a time... One animal does not evolve into another.

Evidence would be transcribing the genetic code of animals who are believed to have been related in one way or another. You'd then have to confirm whether or not the change in gene sequence was in response to the changing environment or if it was spontaneous. Did the change in gene sequence occur reflecting the changing environment - or is it spontaneous? If it reflects the change in environment, you have to confirm that similar genes were sequenced. If it's spontaneous, you'd have to check to see whether or not the change in genetic code that occurs spontaneously still has some similarity to other species' whose genes were altered. If it wasn't, then there's a possible argument against evolution.

As far as I'm aware or even educated on it, evolution is a "thing" but perhaps not entirely as we see it. Perhaps we see a different side of it, and there is still yet to be findings that will give us a different perspective that adds to the whole of it.

As for people who say dinosaurs never existed... they probably never opened a book either.
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dinosaurs don't exist in books though. lol



but people did put the bones discovered deep in the ground that was well kept, and knit them together.

they formed a big creature.

after decades of putting these bones together, it has come to the conclusion that they had existed at one time, but got extinct because of the world changing.



the world could have undergone a transformation. people say a huge comet fell down into earth and destrioyed everything. I don't believe that theory.

I think something happened in the atmosphere, and then the rians flooded the earth, (kind like what happened in the bible, with the great flood)

and destroyed all living things. I don't know how life could exist after being wiped out like that.

but even cockroaches could still hibernate and live and exist, evolve.