That guy twice my age seduced me when I was at the college. Yes, he was the authority but I really was innocent because I did not even look at him in that way until he started those intellectual conversations. I was drawn in him and addicted to his interesting conversations. One day he hugged me and the attraction was so intense that we ended up kissing each other. I saw him several times but did not let him kiss me again. Finally I met him to tell him I was going abroad for a while, he just aggressively draw me nearer and violently kissed my lips so hard that my lips swelled up like a balloon. Is it usual for Saggy guys to attack in such manner?
Are saggy men sexually aggressive?
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when we want you. we want you.

Posted by scorsagianX
Im currently having phone convos with a sagg too, but I have walls up cuz of the stories i hear about sagg men. I think I'll stay in the friends zone with him.
you should make your own conclusion.

Posted by scorsagianXPosted by DMVPosted by scorsagianX
Im currently having phone convos with a sagg too, but I have walls up cuz of the stories i hear about sagg men. I think I'll stay in the friends zone with him.
you should make your own conclusion.
True...But friend zone is much safer.click to expand
when has "safe" ever been exciting? what do your fear?

Posted by scorsagianX
@ DMV. Well to be honest with you, Im trying something new with myself...I decided Im not gonna jump in with someone just cuz im feeling horney. I dont want anymore fwb's(fwb was pissed&now doesnt even want to talk as friends w/no benefits, oh well). I want something real with someone, I want a potential mate and Im looking for chemistry off the gate and it's happened to me before but the timing was wrong. With the sagg guy we havent met in person just talked on phone. Next week I'll meet him for lunch. Im not expecting anything as far as sparks go, cuz it would've happened already.
**side note***not good at expressing what im trying to say in writing, im more animated.
i get cha now. good deal.

I'd say this is due to his mars most likely. Dang I'd prob be pissed. I like it rough, but not that rough o.o

Mhm, I as well. Do you like how aggressive he was capri? To me any guy that aggressive spells trouble in my book. Then again, I'm not one for pain unless it's light pain in bed
Really interesting commentaries thanks guys. As regards your question, that might sound awkward (but what is not awkward with me?!) but I liked it. As you know, I was trying to shut my attraction down for that guy (bcs it was inappropriate to have an affair with a prof). His move -although violent- made me think that he was badly desiring me to the point that he was not able to control himself. So, I thought he gave me some manageable pain so that I do not forget him while I'm away. In other words, his aggressive kisses put me back in the game! But that night he did not call me. So I called him and told him that I was back in the game and had expectations like him calling me. He said ok and continued to call. But while i was away I learnt that he had lied to me about his past relationships and my gut feeling was that he was trying with other girls too. So, I broke up and didn't talk to him again.

Ah I see. Yeah the fact that he couldn't control himself when he kissed you with so much passion is really hot. I actually might like that.
That sucks he lied to you. Sometimes us sagis will skew the truth so that we will have a chance with you if we feel you won't like our past. I know I've done it.
That sucks he lied to you. Sometimes us sagis will skew the truth so that we will have a chance with you if we feel you won't like our past. I know I've done it.
He happykitsune, I am wondering if you would lie about being serious about someone. Let me clarify. That guy was always willing to get into my pants. But as I am a reserved cappy, he ended up telling me this sentence: 'I would even marry you but I thought you would not like to marry a guy like me.' Do you think he was just lying to take me to his bed? or is there any possibility that he was getting serious about me?

I'm always serious when I make any mention of marriage. The idea scares us sagis so why would he make that statement if he wasn't serious? What's his venus?
Thanks a lot. Unfortunately I dunno :?

Posted by borderlinecapri
He happykitsune, I am wondering if you would lie about being serious about someone. Let me clarify. That guy was always willing to get into my pants. But as I am a reserved cappy, he ended up telling me this sentence: 'I would even marry you but I thought you would not like to marry a guy like me.' Do you think he was just lying to take me to his bed? or is there any possibility that he was getting serious about me?
Sagg men like to joke a lot also, in my relationship my sagg he jokes a lot so 80% of what he say's is bullshit and the other 20% is real.......
I think saggy men are hotter than taurus ones bcs the latter always carry their baggage with them everywhere. Always talking about their past gfs which broke them apart bla bla bla. Like a grandmom LOL. So annoying. On the other hand, Saggy guys know how to seduce, that's for sure!

^^ Mhm, sagi guys like to have fun and make sure you're having fun too, which means why bring up past relationships. Obviously they didn't work out for a reason so leave them there in the past and don't let them ruin what you're currently trying to have with another person. Now you're making me want a sag guy *sigh*
Two years ago I met a saggi guy with rising cappy who hinted me that he was looking for some bed adventures. I was almost giving in but I noticed that he had others in the pocket too LOL. I felt so cheap and replaceable. I just went away and never looked at him again.

i wouldnt lie to get someone. but i will choose my words very carefully.
The saggy guy who seduced me at the college kissed me that day for nonstop 3 hours. soft and intense kisses for 3 hours! I had really fallen for him after that 🙂 Is it normal for you guys to act so patiently and softly? or was it just a strategy with a reserved cappy?

Posted by borderlinecapri
The saggy guy who seduced me at the college kissed me that day for nonstop 3 hours. soft and intense kisses for 3 hours! I had really fallen for him after that 🙂 Is it normal for you guys to act so patiently and softly? or was it just a strategy with a reserved cappy?
yes.

Posted by bassace
yes we can be that aggresive, but only after weve gotten with you. as soon as we start becoming sexual, we assume its all fair game. i mean, you kissed him once sooo why wouldnt you do it again? after all, youre just a female who needs to be dominated and feel protected by a big bad sag.
i can ALMOST see how our egos disgust other signs. conventional logic says you should hate us for what we are..but you cant help but like it 😉
i love you 🙂

Posted by bassacePosted by borderlinecapri
The saggy guy who seduced me at the college kissed me that day for nonstop 3 hours. soft and intense kisses for 3 hours! I had really fallen for him after that 🙂 Is it normal for you guys to act so patiently and softly? or was it just a strategy with a reserved cappy?
haha wow, i thought slow and lasting kisses were part of taurus/cap manipulation (yes, manipulation), but now i guess not. we are soft, patient, and romantic after the initial dominance.
heres a good rundown of sag seduction: 1. use over-the-top alpha body language, such as standing like a super-hero or standing on anything that lets us see above the crowd. 2. say something cocky/something that give us power over your insecurities, "i know im hot and all, but you could just come say hi instead of stalking me from the corner" 3. patience. we listen, analyze, we let you know we understand you, and we let you pour yourselves out because we want to share your strengths and fix your weaknesses 4.we initiate some sort of sexual contact, usually without warning, and leading to sex. 5. soft, playful, romantic sag. so caring and understanding, such a meek little being! but then you remember the inner-beast we showed you, and you quickly forget any ideas of us being too soft for you 6. rinse and repeat, OR, settle down if youre one of the lucky fewclick to expand
you should right a book.

Posted by ellessquePosted by bassace
yes we can be that aggresive, but only after weve gotten with you. as soon as we start becoming sexual, we assume its all fair game. i mean, you kissed him once sooo why wouldnt you do it again? after all, youre just a female who needs to be dominated and feel protected by a big bad sag.
i can ALMOST see how our egos disgust other signs. conventional logic says you should hate us for what we are..but you cant help but like it 😉
Your ego does not disgust me. Scorpios think that your egos are sexy as all hell. Very rarely do we come across someone with egos as large as ours. There is some really intense sexual energy that happens.click to expand
so who has the bigger ego?

Posted by ellessque
good question.
see, that is why we can play and nobody gets butthurt. most signs take shit way too seriously. we can fuck around and screw with each other and at the end of the day everyone and everything is still in tact.
I would say the sag has the bigger ego. (don't tell the scorpios I said that)
Because at some point our watery nature takes over and the feelings start floating to the top and we get scared. real talk.
yes i would happen to agree that the sag has the bigger ego. BUT scorps think that their shit dont stink! its all in your poker face. we confront you mofos and you just keep that poker face. you do your own thing and come around when you feel like it. some scorps feel justified for their actions. i secretly like the no apologizing asshole approach to life. the only time i have a problem with that approach is when my feelings get hurt. a scorp knows no boundaries when their hurt.

Posted by ellessque
DMV...all your answers to all the questions you've been having have been sublty answered by our libra/scorp cusps that have graced your board. You should read back thru them.
you know what you need to do. i honestly believe that. i just think your sag nature doesn't want to go there.
elaborate. 🙂
which posts lol. theres quite a few. dammit, did i ask a question? lol. forgive me. what was it lol

nope, i like your honesty.
when i first started seeing my scorp, i had no clue he was marriedbut i still sensed that he was not being forthcoming. all i knew was that he has a daughter. we spent time together in and out of the bedroom. then a found out from his friend that he lives with his baby mama and that he would never leave her. i was crushed ellesque. why couldnt he tell me any of that? i asked him if he was seeing someone. he said he had a baby mama, a girlfriend, a cougar, and a new girl. so i downgraded him to just him wanting some new tail. he came harder with a vengenace.
then i start hearing rumors about other women and then the married thing. why couldnt he just have been honest with me? maybe he thought i wouldnt have slept with him or talked to him if i knew he was married. hes right; i wouldnt have given him the time of day.
i was doing the pull back. how could i go full force with someone like him? i would be playing myself.
he was at my house one day with a mutual friend. the mutal friend was upset that i had chosen to mess around with the scorp instead of him. heres what the friend said
friend: "so you dropped the Jim (pisces) and now your in love with Dan (scorp)?
scorp: "like they all are" *grinning*
dmv: not a freaking word was spoken. crickets.
now, i have just as good as a poker face as he does. what the fuck did he mean by that statement? like they all are huh? i fell for him just like all the other girls. another notch. truly, i felt like i was just a girl in his schedule. Saturday Monica, Sunday Jess, Monday DMV.
scorps say that anything can set them off. im the same friggin way. that comment set me off.
when i first started seeing my scorp, i had no clue he was marriedbut i still sensed that he was not being forthcoming. all i knew was that he has a daughter. we spent time together in and out of the bedroom. then a found out from his friend that he lives with his baby mama and that he would never leave her. i was crushed ellesque. why couldnt he tell me any of that? i asked him if he was seeing someone. he said he had a baby mama, a girlfriend, a cougar, and a new girl. so i downgraded him to just him wanting some new tail. he came harder with a vengenace.
then i start hearing rumors about other women and then the married thing. why couldnt he just have been honest with me? maybe he thought i wouldnt have slept with him or talked to him if i knew he was married. hes right; i wouldnt have given him the time of day.
i was doing the pull back. how could i go full force with someone like him? i would be playing myself.
he was at my house one day with a mutual friend. the mutal friend was upset that i had chosen to mess around with the scorp instead of him. heres what the friend said
friend: "so you dropped the Jim (pisces) and now your in love with Dan (scorp)?
scorp: "like they all are" *grinning*
dmv: not a freaking word was spoken. crickets.
now, i have just as good as a poker face as he does. what the fuck did he mean by that statement? like they all are huh? i fell for him just like all the other girls. another notch. truly, i felt like i was just a girl in his schedule. Saturday Monica, Sunday Jess, Monday DMV.
scorps say that anything can set them off. im the same friggin way. that comment set me off.

nope, no need to hide.
its not fun and games. i do feel something. but ellesque, he hurts me like no ones business.
being in love with him is painful. wtf.
im tearing up as i write this.
its not fun and games. i do feel something. but ellesque, he hurts me like no ones business.
being in love with him is painful. wtf.
im tearing up as i write this.

@DMV that is really mess up what he did, and it's crazy about 2years ago I had the same thing happen to me with a fellow scorp. I met this scorp and we went to lunch I ask him about his dating life and whateva and he told me he only had a baby mama to which he was living with until she went back home to her parents so I believe him and continue the relationship I mean he bought me gifts, we went out every weekend together, and celebrating valentine and all that stuff together including romantic dinners. Well where I live Indiana is a small place but he work at one of the many mills out there and Elle would know where I am talking about. My sister friend also works at the mill and one night we all went out for drinks and my sister friend was like you know he is married at that point my hurt was like broken into a thousand pieces, I felt like shit I would never in a million years want another women husband and not to the extent that he was trying to take our relationship I look at him so differently after.
So I confronted him and he was like oh we are having problems she went home to her family but at this point I had to cut him off I knew the trust was not there. In his defense I will say he was from South Africa and so was his wife and I honestly think he thought it was okay to have more than one women it was crazy but he was sweet and pie and Oh so Sexy he had a way about him. Till this day we are stil friends we actually met at BW3 when the chicago bears was playing wiscousin and he was flirting but he knows we can never go back there.
So I confronted him and he was like oh we are having problems she went home to her family but at this point I had to cut him off I knew the trust was not there. In his defense I will say he was from South Africa and so was his wife and I honestly think he thought it was okay to have more than one women it was crazy but he was sweet and pie and Oh so Sexy he had a way about him. Till this day we are stil friends we actually met at BW3 when the chicago bears was playing wiscousin and he was flirting but he knows we can never go back there.

Another thing I was thinking what was the wife saying about him being out so much, but you know he made up lies to do his dirt and also was it something see overlook because of their culture. I think he wanted me to be his second wife or something it's crazy when I think about it now when we talk I don't bring it up it's in the past and also oddly enough his wife was a Sagg.......

Posted by ellessquePosted by DMV
nope, no need to hide.
its not fun and games. i do feel something. but ellesque, he hurts me like no ones business.
being in love with him is painful. wtf.
im tearing up as i write this.
then give the sucker a taste of his own medicine.
it's seems to be about time for a lesson.
don't be the chic like all the other chics.
get at his level whether you think it's below or beneath you.
you are a tough chic and deserve better. demand it. don't sulk around about it or let him step on your self-esteem. move forward and lead by example of what your worth. he'll either stay in his cess pool of a mess or he will follow. pick your head up and be YOU. you are so wonderful and you don't even know. don't let that sucker define your ass. you are not DMV Tuesday. You are DMV for life. Act like it.click to expand
funny enough, i wrote him an email at 6am about his behavior, my feelings, and how i wish i never met him. i was going to send it last night, but i waited till this morning. at first i was writing the usual BS about how wonderful i think he is and how crazy my feelings are, but i decided aganist it. i instead wrote about how he hurts me; repeatedly. i told him why i ignore him. i told him why i dont like him at times. how he insults my intelligence. how he never apologizes.
he makes me feel like im crazy. he backtracks over all the nice things he says and uses it aganist me. he told me he loved me and then denied it. fucker. that shit is unacceptable. and i told him. how the hell does he think he can get away with treating me like this? what the fuck did i do to him? im mean really.
he makes me feel like im making up this whole "ship" of ours. like im just imagining all these feelings; his and mine. sometimes im dumb enough to believe his trickery. like did i really add my subjectiveness into all of this? am i the one living in a an illusion. i would continue to believe that, but his actions say different.
am i bi-polar?

yep hes hitched.
i mean i sat there. asked him, are you married. my friend Alice told me that you told her that you were married. he never looked me in the eye. said no and then went on some friggin tangent about how he knows Alice's brother. who the hell gives a flying fuck about alices brother! totally skirted the issue. i just sat there and was like OK. thats the amount of respect that you have for me. you think im stupid? just insult my intelligence right in my face. his thinking was probably, let me talk about something else and she wont even notice.
no respect. and STILL i love him.
i mean i sat there. asked him, are you married. my friend Alice told me that you told her that you were married. he never looked me in the eye. said no and then went on some friggin tangent about how he knows Alice's brother. who the hell gives a flying fuck about alices brother! totally skirted the issue. i just sat there and was like OK. thats the amount of respect that you have for me. you think im stupid? just insult my intelligence right in my face. his thinking was probably, let me talk about something else and she wont even notice.
no respect. and STILL i love him.
You are just a confused woman honey,, we are not bipolar. Although I feel like borderline..

Posted by borderlinecapri
You are just a confused woman honey,, we are not bipolar. Although I feel like borderline..
see thats the thing, i dont feel like im that confused. hes contradictory.
i cant be in love with him because hes married.
he acts like he isnt married, so he does whatever. but he cant want me to do whatever just because he doesnt care.
but like a dumbass, i fell in love anyway.
yes I hear you and I clearly see that he has been unethical just from the beginnign. a totally irresponsible kind of man. Sorry but is he really worth it?

i cant answer that question. if i say yes, wtf. if i say no, id be lying to myself.
LOL I am just trying to make you think.. a strategy of mine in order to shut the emotions down 🙂 might not work in your case though. I dunno :/

Sag men... Mine was faithful for 12 years but then again he had the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old (although over 40) so I guess I was quite lucky he hadn't hit puberty, as then it would have been a totally different story!
Yes sag men are aggressive lovers and it can be hot as hell if you are up for it. But mine wasn't much of a flirter - he was too direct and sometimes I just wanted a bit of softness and subtle signals. Not just passionate sex without foreplay.
I do get what some of you have been commenting about though - those carefree, boyish eyes and smile... It was very hard for me to let go of my sag (took me about 3 years) even though our relationship was a classic story of a very destructive "love/hate" relationship.
Where is he now? 12 years and some children later? Doing the same thing he did when we met... wandering! He doesn't even have his own house, and it's not because he cant afford it, it's because he doesn't want to be held down. That's the charm aswell as the curse about the saggitarius.
If you are up for a swirling romance go for it! If you want a steady relationship. Stop it whilst you still can!
Yes sag men are aggressive lovers and it can be hot as hell if you are up for it. But mine wasn't much of a flirter - he was too direct and sometimes I just wanted a bit of softness and subtle signals. Not just passionate sex without foreplay.
I do get what some of you have been commenting about though - those carefree, boyish eyes and smile... It was very hard for me to let go of my sag (took me about 3 years) even though our relationship was a classic story of a very destructive "love/hate" relationship.
Where is he now? 12 years and some children later? Doing the same thing he did when we met... wandering! He doesn't even have his own house, and it's not because he cant afford it, it's because he doesn't want to be held down. That's the charm aswell as the curse about the saggitarius.
If you are up for a swirling romance go for it! If you want a steady relationship. Stop it whilst you still can!

@ellesque,
i need a blunt.
i need a blunt.

Posted by leoowoman
Sag men... Mine was faithful for 12 years but then again he had the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old (although over 40) so I guess I was quite lucky he hadn't hit puberty, as then it would have been a totally different story!
Yes sag men are aggressive lovers and it can be hot as hell if you are up for it. But mine wasn't much of a flirter - he was too direct and sometimes I just wanted a bit of softness and subtle signals. Not just passionate sex without foreplay.
I do get what some of you have been commenting about though - those carefree, boyish eyes and smile... It was very hard for me to let go of my sag (took me about 3 years) even though our relationship was a classic story of a very destructive "love/hate" relationship.
Where is he now? 12 years and some children later? Doing the same thing he did when we met... wandering! He doesn't even have his own house, and it's not because he cant afford it, it's because he doesn't want to be held down. That's the charm aswell as the curse about the saggitarius.
If you are up for a swirling romance go for it! If you want a steady relationship. Stop it whilst you still can!
if the sag has a venus in capricorn, he wont be a wanderer.

i know a sag guy who has a venus in sag and he has NO intentions of getting married. none. he is def a wanderer.

Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by DMV
@ellesque,
i need a blunt.
So your mind starts racing even more ?click to expand
no because drinking = calories. lol.
helps me to relax.

Posted by ellessque
this is the best sag. screw everyone else 😛
sag sun
scorp moon
scorp merc
scorp venus
scorp mars
thats no sag. thats a scorp.
The guy I was talking in the OP was also divorced from his cappy woman of 16 years!
Let me tell you the secret for not falling for the person you're with. If you love yourself too much and believe that the guy/girl will definitely see that you are that unique snowflake in this world, you will fall for the guy/girl in a desperate way. However, a person who dislikes himself/herself will never fall in love bcs will know just from the beginning that s/he is not lovable. So, if a guy lies to you just from the beginning, he already knows that he will be disliked once you find out the lies. So, he will never let his guard down around you and will be unlikely to fall in love.. in my opinion..
Let me tell you the secret for not falling for the person you're with. If you love yourself too much and believe that the guy/girl will definitely see that you are that unique snowflake in this world, you will fall for the guy/girl in a desperate way. However, a person who dislikes himself/herself will never fall in love bcs will know just from the beginning that s/he is not lovable. So, if a guy lies to you just from the beginning, he already knows that he will be disliked once you find out the lies. So, he will never let his guard down around you and will be unlikely to fall in love.. in my opinion..
ouppss the saggy in me talks nonsense, dont listen to her 🙂))

Posted by DMV
if the sag has a venus in capricorn, he wont be a wanderer.click to expand
Mine had venus in Sagittarius - so I did pretty well to keep him "down" I think!!

Oh yea, the one I messed with was. I just found out he had a venus in scorp tho as well. Never did fuck him tho.

Posted by borderlinecapri
The guy I was talking in the OP was also divorced from his cappy woman of 16 years!
Let me tell you the secret for not falling for the person you're with. If you love yourself too much and believe that the guy/girl will definitely see that you are that unique snowflake in this world, you will fall for the guy/girl in a desperate way. However, a person who dislikes himself/herself will never fall in love bcs will know just from the beginning that s/he is not lovable. So, if a guy lies to you just from the beginning, he already knows that he will be disliked once you find out the lies. So, he will never let his guard down around you and will be unlikely to fall in love.. in my opinion..
thats eeasier said than done.

but in hindsight. i see your point

Posted by DMV
i know a sag guy who has a venus in sag and he has NO intentions of getting married. none. he is def a wanderer.
This is my Sagg placement, I know he loves me but I think that about him sometimes.

Posted by Sagittarius89
Oh yea, the one I messed with was. I just found out he had a venus in scorp tho as well. Never did fuck him tho.
With this placement I find these Sagg to be a little clingly.
thats funny elle! could you help me interpret mine in that way too? 🙂
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