DMV & Bassace I need input

I only name these too since they are familiar with my situation from my post on the Sagg thread and I know all you other sagg get tired of hearing about Sagg men and these two that I call out probably do to but here it goes.

DMV you know I was saying I think me and the sagg just need to be friends and I am getting tired of doing all the work in the relationship, so needless to say I back off some and I haven't talk to him in about two days I just need to really see clearly the situaion and find out what I want to do well this morning I get a text (read below)

HIM: Good Morning Pumpkin. I'm need u to get right b4 I get wrong
Me: Good Morning, I thought I was doing right(guess not) but let me know b4 you decide to do wrong
HIM: Okay
Me: So r u sayin my action r not right but yours are?
HIM: Didn't say that. But I'm going to end up acting an azz on u cause you won't do as u suppose too.But it not all ur fault I have some mess up ways too.
Me: Exactly I am glad that u see that. I think I have been playin my part but it's hard when u dont meet me halfway.

This all happen about 20 mins ago and I haven't heard from him yet, the funny thing is to me we both feel that the other is not playing their part properly and I try to tell him how I feel but it seems if things never changes. Am I missing something or it there really no way to fix this situation of the scorp and sagg relationship.

hey scorp diva...

i never grow tired of saggis and scorps!

i dont think its a matter of you doing all the work and getting tired that makes you just want to be friends. thats the EASY way out mama. a sag/scorp relationship is not an easy sell. lots of push/pull..stagnation, unsure feelings. i think what your feeling is some neglect on his part and apprehension on yours. almost like your feelings of insecurity is rearing its ugly head and a time out is in order to test the emotions of your partner. i totally get this. im glad that you didnt do an all out silent treatment and answered the phone. that is a relationship killer with a sagg/scorp.

aww he called you Pumpkin. thats big for a sag. i dont just dish out pet names for the hell of it.

"I'm need u to get right b4 I get wrong"

i can relate. frustration on his part. what you will need him to do for you is to tell you exactly what he means by get right. that could mean alot. sounds like your attitude could have been a bit snappy and scorponic towards him and hes bringing it up. he probably aware that your 2 day hiatus is due to to you having an attitude. its good that he brought it up though. and hes being honest when he says that he doesnt want to start actin up 2 because of it.

its like you guys arent being fully upfront with the details. your leaving way too much left to assumption. your conversation even seems a bit "attitudish" from the both of you.

we all know the scorpio is not going to budge. your a fixed sign. so you will have to make it seem like he can follow your lead. most saggi dont want to lead. we wanna go with the flow. but its gotta be a good flow.

what are your birthdays again? including year?

find out what he means by "get right"....let him tell you specifically what he means.

i had this problem with my scorp. neither one of us could get the guts to talk specifically about the issues.

I am going to call him when I go on lunch DMV to find out what he means by get right? I really need to know but when I ask before it's like he didn't want to answer.

My birthday is 11/14/78
and his is 11/23/74

Posted by scorpdiva
I am going to call him when I go on lunch DMV to find out what he means by get right? I really need to know but when I ask before it's like he didn't want to answer.

My birthday is 11/14/78
and his is 11/23/74

yes thats what i was thinking. get him comfortable enough to tell you.

I don't think he trusts you

well I haven't talk to him yet to answer your question DMV maybe tonight since I think he is working midnights

Bassace thanks for your input and it might be a little mistrust there just from when we had our two month break and I thought we were pass what happen between us but sometimes he brings it up and he can be holding on to that maybe I don't really know. I am not currently dating anyone else cause I actually do love him and I have told him that I might be thinking about dating others only cause of the distant between me and him but I haven't really acted on it yet. I also get nervous sometimes when he says things like before I do wrong I mean what does wrong mean to him but I know in the past he told me how he did dirty shit to women but I have only been nice to him so he better not try no funny shit either. Really I want to either be with him or not I don't like that middle road so after we have out talk a decision will be made and I will update thanks for reading this thread and taking the time to give your opinion.

Well Okay so I didn't talk to him last night cause he was sleep since his working morning his schedule at work has change dramtically which is a problem for me cause I never when he works unless I ask(another control issue) Anyway so I did call him last night and he text me this morning
Me: I call u last night did you get my message? i wanna make sure you didn't take it the wrong way
(my message I was calling you to finish talking about what we text earlier I may or may not call you back)
HIM: Yeah I got it. I could of called u back 10 mins after u called but ur comment about continuw our conversation made me not call you.
ME: Okay! F-ck you too
Him: Now that was mean as hell, I thought you loved me
Me: How can I continue to love someone who constantly ignores me and does what the f-ck he choses to do without considering my feelings
HIM: I do consider your feelings, its not like that, I just don't do what u be wanting me 2 to do
ME: And what is that?
HIM: Nevermind

So I call him about five mins later and he said that he was trying to get under my skin by saying all that stuff about how I better do right and that he was just messing with me. I told him is our relationship a joke I said I don't mind joking about everyday shit but our relationship and our behavior is not one of them. He goes on to say how mean I am and I told him yes that's the result when you play games,he insist he is not playing games but wants to see how much I care so he tries on purpose to piss me off just to see how far I will take it. So our conversation ended with him asking what was my plans for today my off day with him saying he miss me and so forth but I am just still a little upset with his comment and just the games I feel like he plays (which is suppose to be a scorp thing right) so I guess now we are cool will have some make up sex soon then probably go thru the same shit in a couple of weeks.

I am just venting and letting yall know what happen but we will see I just don't know..........

I only do that type of behavior to people I don't trust.

I doubt he thinks your feelings are genuine at all and thats probably why he acts like this.


"Now that was mean as hell, I thought you loved me" < Okay sure that is funny but than you say

"How can I continue to love someone who constantly ignores me and does what the f-ck he choses to do without considering my feelings" < You just went back on what you said. You pulled the rug right out undeneath him.

I get you were angry but you shouldn't go back on your word like that when you are.

If you can just flip like that it's not going to make him believe you at all. Thats probably why he thinks your mean.



Than you say "I actually do love him and I have told him that I might be thinking about dating others only cause of the distant between me and him but I haven't really acted on it yet."

You are very unclear. It seems like you decided on everything on how you feel in that moment or on that day. It isn't like that with a sag. Sometimes we need space but our feelings aren't wishy washy and we aren't ruled by them.


This is what makes this combo hard.

So if anything I think he may think you are the one that is game playing

@Sagg89 that could be possible that he feels I am wishy washy cause I do love him but at the same time if we ended thing yes I would be heartbroken for a moment but that is not as worse as being someone fool. I guess I look at love differently them him and that's also an issue I just feel like love is great but its not worth me putting uo with anyones games or what I think to be games. Let's just say I am not optimistic about our future but I do know I want to always be his friend because he is a nice person overall.

Hmm I see. Ya you guys probably do. Than maybe you can try and move the relationship into a friendship?

He'll probably be a little hurt but it's better to do that than lead him on if you really feel like it won't go anywhere and your not happy with a "in between" situation

my cell was acting crazy earlier so I hide those post which were the same as the orignial one yeah thanks for all your advice, actually today I tried to invite him and his children out to eat so we could have a friendly talk but he ignore me so yeah it's getting old. @Bassace like you said I have told him how I feel, I have tried to make time and I am just like whateva at this point maybe the interest is gone so If I talk to him again I will just tell him we are better as friends.

Hey Diva...I ran acroos your thread and I don't mean to barge in but I can't leave without sayin this. That convo sounds just like convos I've had wit my off and on sag ex for 4 years...lol...your sag has officially hit D**kHEAD MODE! they get like that when their on the fence. "I love her, I love her not"..."Gotta push her away but WAIT please don't go!" I have a cancer moon so I've had the same reaction as you. In my experience I've found being really emotional only makes it worst. Its like they can't interpret the response. Being a libra tho, I would start to keep it light and playful. Example: "I need you to do right so I don't do wrong" my response would've been "O YEA! like what?" Or "I love a bad boy!" You have to have a attitude of DO YOU! Then 15 minutes later hit him with a "I still love you tho" (a way to let him Know you care without being overly emotional about it)It seemed to unload some of the pressure of emotions and it would eventually open the door for meaningful convo that dealt with the issues that we were having. It sounds like you're pretty over it tho which is inderstandable. But if you're done with it you have to be done with it! Because if he's not he will F**k wit you to see if you're serious. If you're in the mood to experiment give what I said a try

thanks Playwithfire I do tend to get emotional when he says these things when I should just joke back with him like you said then maybe we can get to a real conversation. Last night I was just so through with him (he has a pisces moona) he must have sense this or something so today I hadn't talk to him and didn't plan on talking to him unless he contact me first then I would say when can I see and then I was going to tell him person. So today he actually call me while I was at the store about two hours ago and he said he call to ask what I wanted for valentine day, and then he brought up how last year this time we were at a superbowl party together and how the day before we had been together for the first time and different thing like that. It was actually kind of sweet he even had a hint of jealousy asking me about this website I am on and why I updated my pics, he ask was I looking for something? I simply told him I don't remember updated my photos and that I am not looking.

take your time scorp diva. the sage just needs to feel comfortable

@scorpdiva, your guy is a Scorp/Sag cusper don't forget. We of the Cusp of the Revolution have a lot of Scorpio traits. We can be suspicious and jealous. We need a lot of reassurance that our partner cares about us. See how he was bringing up what you were doing on special days that you were together? These memories are important to us. The fact that he brought that up is a huge signal that he is in love with you.

Posted by TheLadySagittarius
The fact that he brought that up is a huge signal that he is in love with you.

yup

Yeah ladies he actually made me blush we he brought up that stuff, and he also ask me how I felt that first night that we were together? So I do think he is just tryin to get comfortable and sometimes my attitude is very non chalant so he is trying to see if I really care and I can tell him but also he needs to see actions on my part which is totally fine. I just have to take my time and not rush anything or be so defensive.