libra girl sag man HELP YALL

libra girl (20) been with a sag man (22) for 5 years. we were intensely close within the first few months of meeting then an unexpected severe situation happened that affected the both of our lives and our feelings and relationship with each other but a year & a half later after being on & off strictly sex we became extremely close all over again. together everyday living together joint at the hip. though it wasnt all roses & gold he was definitely disrespectful and flat out mean. the emotional damage was severe on my end but i must accept my wrongdoings as well. through all the bs at 5 years we still come back to each other and forgive, forget and simply enjoy bein together. 6 months was the longest we'd ever went without speaking or seeing each other and this just ended a few weeks ago (the 6 month streak) and it was a very fucked up thing i did to me but i wanted to get even and now my libra scales are balanced. but he still came back after that long without talking... when together we cant go without feeling each other, I love how affectionate he is. being 2 years younger and an air element I never understood my emotions and feelings up until maybe a year or so ago, so that only helped me understand myself. he always said im not there for him emotionally & i could never understand that because of all the emotional damage he'd put me through. but that was at 18 & 20 now after a few harder bumps in the road we still can come back and love each other for simply who we are. he met another sag within the year when we were on a break & im havin extreme anxiety & jealousy issues bc my love for him is so deep i cant stand to see someone else love him. i put up with everything stuck by him through EVERYTHING even shed blood behind this man. i simply cannot let him go. i want him to myself without even wanting him in such a serious relationship sense. he said im forever his best friend & i truly believe that. i hope theres someone who can relate and even share some insight on my relationship im still trying so hard to figure out. whether ima let it go or fight for him because being a libra I never do that. i always let shit go like fuck it. yes ive become extremely emotional (not typical for a libra or any air element) but i blame myself for even letting him get so close to this sag girl. he would never let me get serious with someone else like he is & that shit fucks me up. he is my soulmate and though it might not last forever just the 2 of us i know we'll always be one.

so funny cause i finally did that maybe a week ago.. hes in jail right now so he wont see it til he come out but i had to really let all my guards down & just let it out. i feel like he may appreciate it after 5 good years of tryna figure me out. but idk they so unpredictable

Best friend with benefits?
Clearly all it is to him.
If it takes him showing interest in another for you to step to the plate and be something more again I dont see this going anywhere.

why do you feel like its not goin anywhere bc of me finally showing how i really feel? im the anchor in his life he cant go too long without me. he never lets me move on to other people he only want me to himself, though he cant have me like that bc in a way we both are extremely similar in needing independence and space. but honestly i could go without marrying him. i just him here forever. i would love a love child from this relationship solely bc of the love shared but we dont have to be together in that sense forever. clearly i can barely understand my own situation thats why im askin for open comments

Your not an anchor your someone he falls back on. If you find someone else no one left to fall back on.
He found someone new do you think he cares about your feelings towards this new development—?? Did he even asked how you felt—??
You let this situation linger for so long how can you expect anything more now?

bro what? 5 YEARS? hell yeah i told him how i felt directly in his face after the 6 months of not speaking. hes very emotional & has always expressed his feelings & bc i had no real understanding of emotions & feelings i did not reciprocate. i pushed him into the relationship with my wrongdoing.. he cant fall back on me but i dont give him anything but reassurance. hes my best friend. i understand what youre sayin as far as letting this happen for so long but i cant do nothin bout it now but hope it work out for the best

I meant to put because not but*

& let me be clear.. this isnt a girlfriend this is a girl who strips for him & gives him money.. so before we jump on the relationship boat let me state the facts here. its just so unfamiliar because ive never felt the need to compete with any other girl AFTER me and our 5 years & it fucks w me just like it fucks w him that im with somebody else.

This is messy.

what is your venus?

ehh still learning my moons & houses but im an october 4th libra. born at 7 pm. hes an november 26th sag idk what time he was born. well said.. i can say i was a beautiful wrapped box with nothing nside other than sensitivity. almost 21 now & i absolutely express my feelings more than i ever did but hes only just beginning to see this side of me.

Go run a chart.

but my opinion, this will go nowhere good. I just thing there is some fixed energy going on. Sometimes you just bond with people and the energy keeps you coming back.

But I would figure this out quickly, you're at a critical point in your life. Don't wanna waste any more years than u have 2.

but why is fixed energy a negative here? outside of energy there is love. i could go into detail of the shit weve gone through but its too much and its unnecessary. he comes to me as if he needs me to survive... (fire needs air) so my maternal instinct is never turned off with him. but i also dont wanna waste anymore time im jst at a mental standstill bc im runnin in circles. being a sag how do you think he feels.. put yourself in his shoes & im askin genuinely to do this

This is my first time actually posting...

But speaking from a Sag stand point, and going through the same situation.... You have to be real with yourself. You don't want him, because you waited. And right now, it's just jealousy and selfishness. I went through the same thing, and waited almost two years for a Libra chick and while waiting fell in love with a Sag chick... The libra came strong and now me and her will never speak again because of how it ended. You had five years, why wait now? Don't ruin what they have going right now , because you'll be back to the old feeling if he leaves the Sag and chooses you... Let him be happy, if you genuinely care about him like you stated, you'll accept that... Just don't wait the next time if it comes back around.

People often overlook Sag's until they see us with someone else... And this is speaking from experience and it messes our heads up, because we want you but we also have feelings for the new person... And then we're the bad guys for trying to follow our heart and that passion... And not choosing them.... Good luck though.

Here's your chart. You're a double Libra (Sun and Moon) with an Aries rising.

Here's your ex's chart.

He'll be 23 in Nov., right?

Without a time of birth, I'm not exactly sure of his Moon sign/Ascendant, but everything else is correct.

Here's the synastry

The hard aspects between Saturn seem to be the culprit in why you two feel like the relationship is a bit cold.

Your Saturn squares his sun and his Saturn squares your Venus.

You can google these aspects for more information, but hard Saturn aspects are said to be repressive and restricting, but also very binding.

His Sun also falls into your 8th, which would explain why you feel jealous that he has moved on.

and my 8th is in scorpio? my mom is a october scorpio so either way i have scorpio tendencies honest. & im not fully understanding how the saturn works.. so is that a neg or positive in the realtionship

Yep venus in scorpio. The blood part.

Posted by cocoawessst
and my 8th is in scorpio? my mom is a october scorpio so either way i have scorpio tendencies honest. & im not fully understanding how the saturn works.. so is that a neg or positive in the realtionship

"Hard" aspects like squares, and oppositions are often seen as conflictual.

So they would be considered a negative.

Your 8th house is ruled by Jupiter/Sagittarius.

You do have Venus conjunct Pluto/Jupiter in Scorpio along with your Mercury in Scorpio.

That part. But were all supposed to live in our 20s. Venus in scopio has a hard time moving on.

I can't tell if he likes you or not. Maybe you are a friend with benefits, or maybe he's straying from his heart.

Are you in a committed relationship with someone else? That could be messy if your sag decides he wants you-you'll either have to turn him down, or prove that you're disloyal by dumping your bf. If you're just seeing someone on the side then gauge how your sag reacts. If he doesn't care, then you were just fwb.

yes ive tried to move on numerous times & he always comes and directly interferes after careful thought bc he is a smart little man. but ive never fought for him before. in all our 5 years ive never chased him or made it abundantly clear that i could never go without him. he knows i love him to death but he also knows i will not stop and suffer my daily life behind him anymore.

i blame myself bc i ddnt fight for him & i know that if he or any other person that wanted me and my affection and they ddnt chase me or even try id be so hurt & absolutely finished with the relationship so im now puttin myself in his shoes & maybe realizing i should have tried to right my wrongs bc he always always always made up for his mistakes.

busy says its bc we 20 & 22 but weve been soul tied since 15 & 17 & its just as intense as it was then as it is now but only im becoming a libra with passion and emotions and not that beautiful wrapped box with nothing inside anymore.

Posted by cocoawessst
yes ive tried to move on numerous times & he always comes and directly interferes after careful thought bc he is a smart little man. but ive never fought for him before. in all our 5 years ive never chased him or made it abundantly clear that i could never go without him. he knows i love him to death but he also knows i will not stop and suffer my daily life behind him anymore.

i blame myself bc i ddnt fight for him & i know that if he or any other person that wanted me and my affection and they ddnt chase me or even try id be so hurt & absolutely finished with the relationship so im now puttin myself in his shoes & maybe realizing i should have tried to right my wrongs bc he always always always made up for his mistakes.

I totally get that, you feel like you didnt give it ur all.

exactly dmv & its like i know he always wanted to see that ambition & fight in me & i just ddnt have it. i was emotionally severely damaged by him!!! i felt like it was another selfish trait of his to ask of me to be there for him emotionally and etc when hed broke me down completely. but that was at 18. we're almost 21 & 23 now so..

what do you think dmv... bein a sag woman & all. my venus is in scorpio along with mercury and my 8th is in jupiter. i truly feel as if being around him for as long as we have been his fiery personality has rubbed off on me entirely & i fuckin love it. ive always been a wild one cause ima libra & an incorrigible one lolol but yeah love the passion i feel when i feel.

Posted by arose32
This is my first time actually posting...

But speaking from a Sag stand point, and going through the same situation.... You have to be real with yourself. You don't want him, because you waited. And right now, it's just jealousy and selfishness. I went through the same thing, and waited almost two years for a Libra chick and while waiting fell in love with a Sag chick... The libra came strong and now me and her will never speak again because of how it ended. You had five years, why wait now? Don't ruin what they have going right now , because you'll be back to the old feeling if he leaves the Sag and chooses you... Let him be happy, if you genuinely care about him like you stated, you'll accept that... Just don't wait the next time if it comes back around.

People often overlook Sag's until they see us with someone else... And this is speaking from experience and it messes our heads up, because we want you but we also have feelings for the new person... And then we're the bad guys for trying to follow our heart and that passion... And not choosing them.... Good luck though.

+1

I do care deeply but I cant let him go. I cant let the next female have him at his best. I put up with all that bs & she think she can just take him away from me like NO!!! I never said anything bc I didnt think I really cared. Honestly I dont think I did care bc I had other flings on the side too. I was tryin to move on just like he was. Its like we go through the toughest shit & still cant get enough of it i dont understand myself honestly but I guess thats what love does.. thats so crazy cause he met another sag girl their birthdays are 4 days apart & I read up on their sign being with each other & it said some say sag & sag are the best for each other because of the energy.. but itll eventually die. theres nothin like air libra & fire sag together & thats what i know but its still very very hard to see.

That's true. I am getting out of the sag and sag thing, it gets quite draining if one sag isn't mature... There's two different types. One that loves drama for intensity and the ones who look for the intensity in other ways. I'm telling you though, just think and don't let you mr emotions get the best of you. It'll happen if it's meant to be.