Sagittarian madhouse

Obviously I am a Virgo but my ex and son are both Sags. As it happens they are both French and live in France (I met her originally when she was an au pair here in England). Anyway I see them for about six weeks a year, sometimes going over there and sometimes they come here.

When I say it is a madhouse over there I don't actually mean that it's physically chaotic: as a matter of fact she is probably actually more clean and tidy than I am (which I put down to her having Mars in Virgo) but although they sometimes get on they are often very argumentative (which may be a Sag thing or a French thing or both?) Unfortunately they can both be quite volatile and in particular she has a pretty sharp temper and I think she hassles him too much and even makes him do extra homework (even my mother didn't do that!)

As a matter of fact although he was an accident I like him and get on with him actually better than with her and can sympathise with him as my own mother gave me a hard time too and my relationship with my son seems to be coming on well now that his English is improving (he will be 13 years old on 13 December by the way).

Virgo-Sag is a difficult relationship but I think she was originally attracted to me because I have Sag rising (also maybe because she has Mars in Virgo). Anyway I try to do my best with them but it ain't always easy!

I lived in France for a bit & my experience with the french is that they are particularly passionate in general but also fussy.
Which is interesting combination.
Their self expression and body language makes everything seem like a huge deal until you actually listen to what they are saying.
Anyways the sag probably does not help with the passion quotient

Posted by warmwaters
I lived in France for a bit & my experience with the french is that they are particularly passionate in general but also fussy.
Which is interesting combination.
Their self expression and body language makes everything seem like a huge deal until you actually listen to what they are saying.
Anyways the sag probably does not help with the passion quotient

I'm french and I'd rather say the contrary lol
Saggitarrius's are crazy !
talking by experience ( born in a fire family with two saggs in it ! )
Anyways, I don't know what's actually disturbing you, the fact that they are french or the fact that they are fire signs ?

Now this isn't boring! 😉

Sags are selfish...why did you get a divorce?

Also two of the same sign is bound to have arguments they are more alike than you think.

Your son has my grandmother birthday 🙂

a few years ago I collected statistics about traffic on Astrology boards in different countries. What was interesting? In several countries Scorpio and Capricorn boards where the top runners. Only in France it was Sagittarius board which had the most threads. So that advertisements and numerlogy stuff all were attracted to that board.

I thought to myself it may be because of freedom emphasis in "Libert?, ??galit?, Fraternit?".
But who am I to know?

Posted by VirgoSvengali
... Saggitarrius's are crazy !
talking by experience ( born in a fire family with two saggs in it ! ) ...

well, "family" is a madhouse of its own anyway. This is how Americans make good money with 1000s sitcoms every year.

Posted by DwellingOnMove

Posted by VirgoSvengali
... Saggitarrius's are crazy !
talking by experience ( born in a fire family with two saggs in it ! ) ...

well, "family" is a madhouse of its own anyway. This is how Americans make good money with 1000s sitcoms every year.

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Lol, I agree we also always say after the epic actions that occurs in our house that " Hopefully, there's no camera Inside the house"

Posted by DwellingOnMove
a few years ago I collected statistics about traffic on Astrology boards in different countries. What was interesting? In several countries Scorpio and Capricorn boards where the top runners. Only in France it was Sagittarius board which had the most threads. So that advertisements and numerlogy stuff all were attracted to that board.

I thought to myself it may be because of freedom emphasis in "Libert?, ??galit?, Fraternit?".
But who am I to know?

Well, that motto comes from the age of the Frenh Revolution, the only clear influence I can see from this are regular marchs accross the country. Once every month in the place I live
Liberty as mentionned is " Libert? - Egalit? Fraternit? " is the freedom the people revendicated from th King because we could stand the too big authority coming from just one person ( and Church too, but too corrumpted), Equality for everybody ( abolition of privil?ges) and Fraternity .. some progress is to make for this !

no camera. LOL

Annd sorry for all the typos, I guess you got what I said either way Lol
I'm happy to be surround by fucked up people, virgos need that action in theirs lives

@OB91: Actually we were never married. It's really not me that has a phobia of commitment (not to the right person anyway) but she ain't easy to get on with and is reluctant to go half way with me or make concessions unless she has to and then disdainfully (basically "my way or the highway" although being French she is perhaps not familiar with that actual expression!) As far as I am concerned she is the one who has never wanted to really commit which I suppose is typical Sag after all. The other day though I was shocked when she claimed (on the phone) that one time she proposed to me but that I refused her! I am 99% sure that that never happened as I am sure that I would remember such a thing as that. The trouble is that she may have told our son this in which case this is making me out to be the villain of the piece (like "Oh well I wanted to get married but he didn't want to" which may well make him feel unwanted). I guess that maybe most of his friends' parents are married and together and he feels second-rate because of this. I couldn't believe it when she said that and wonder if she dreamed it or something but she claimed it happened.

^^^typos? that's ok.

I got your point. Only sometimes one special point in the history of a nation starts defining the soul of that nation for the following centuries. It is a little dramatic thought. not the ultimate truth. just a thought.

yeah, enjoy the happiness.

@OB91: I don't know whether birthdays run in families but the birthday of my aunt's husband was also 13 December. It's also Ted Nugent's birthday so maybe I should buy my son an electric guitar!

Lol you should!

Yeah sags are scared of commitment the women will settle for men who don't deserve them and play the ones that are actually good for them.

Glad you didn't marry her you Virgos need stability without all the drama that the sag brings.

The trouble is that she is actually pretty much of a control freak in some ways and that ain't fun. I know not all Sags are like this but she seems to be.

"settle for men who don't deserve them and play the ones that are actually good for them."

yep. the proof is that everywhere on other boards of DXP 99% of threads are handling of Sag women crying over guys. 😉

If it's possible, can you post your wife's chart over here? Because my girlfriend is also a french, and she has sag sun and virgo mars. It kind of creeps me out.

or just her placement. I forgot I can't read the chart.lol

Not sure how to load charts etc. on here but she was born December 2 1964 in Narbonne (still her home town). She has 16 Gemini rising and I think her Moon is 25 38 Scorpio so that will fix the time of day: it was shortly after sundown anyway as she has a 6th house Sun. A good website to get charts from is www.alabe.com

Her approximate placements are
Sun 11 Sag
Moon 26 Scorp
Mercury 2 Cap
Venus 10 Scorp
Mars 14 Virgo
Jupiter 18 Taurus
Saturn 29 Aquarius
Uranus 16 Virgo
Neptune 18 Scorpio
Pluto 18 Virgo
ascendant 16 Gemini

It's really interesting. My girlfriend has same Sun, Venus, and Mars, but her Moon sign is Virgo. She once told me about her Virgo ex, and what she said is pretty much like yours. However, when I tried to dig more information about that, I found out that she is critical as well, so they often have arguments.