Abortion: Last Question cross my heart!!! ;P

This is just hypothetical...no I am not pregnant. No I am not thinking about undergoing an abortion. No I am not thinking about getting pregnant and then undergoing an abortion.

I just wanted to know how you guys, "scorpios", felt about this topic in general.

I was speaking to a friend once about abortion. I'm not going to hold back, beat around the bush, or fib. I'm going to be direct. I'm pro-abortion rights.

But apparently... MOST if not ALL of the scorpio men (scorpio women are invited to respond and mention their thoughts as well)I'm friends with had mentioned that they would HATE ( as in contemplating violence against their sex partner) if their sex partner would abort their child.

I would always proceed to ask "well what if they just did it without your acknowledgement? Or even without you knowing that they were pregnant in the first place?"

In which they would reply with some kind of comment about the morbid things they would do to a person that would abort their child without their knowledge and/or acknowledgement.

Seems kind of a strange reaction to me, since if you don't know then there is no way that you could violently react...unless you somehow "found out". And I guess there is some validity to the reply when most often the "truth comes out".

So what do you guys think about abortion?

For scorpio men:

Would you support an abortion?

What if it was hidden from you?

For scorpio women:

Do you support abortion?

Would you ever consider it?

Would you ever hide it?

If you feel any of the questions are inappropriate, then I guess don't answer? lol But I mean well. Don't mean to sound like a "jerk" by the phrasing of the questions...just trying to get your opinions on the topic.

🙂

I would only support abortion of my child under certain conditions, and an accident isn't one of them.

I would prefer if it were hidden from me. I just don't think I would do well with the trauma of knowing my child just got aborted.

This is a very difficult issue for everyone involved. All I could do is support my woman's decision and hope it's the one that causes us the least amount of pain.

@ Dazed scorp very very mature response. "However, this is something I prefer to discuss with my partner before we get physical." - Never heard that before!

@ RedScorpion; What would you do if you "found out" but it was hidden from you to save you from the pain?

@ DazedScorp: Interesting question + horrible irresponsible answer (No.) = may consider a possible approach to a probable future issue between couples.

@ ellessque: Hmmn interesting. So how would you view a friend that decided to undergo an abortion?; Or a friend that felt the need to hide it from their partner?; And what kind of advice would you give them?

Just trying to see things from your point of view. 🙂

Posted by sweat.lioness
@ RedScorpion; What would you do if you "found out" but it was hidden from you to save you from the pain?

Mixed emotion on that. I would be upset that she didn't discuss it with me but I would understand that she didn't want me to go through the pain. Ultimately, it is her body and her decision but including me in her plans would have been the appropriate thing, pain or no pain.

This is really a difficult call to make because there's no background to the relationship in your questions.

If we were in a long-term relationship and we weren't using contraception on purpose, then I would have to wonder the hell is wrong with both of us. I would also be upset wondering why she didn't want to have a baby with me considering we are in a long-term relationship and not using contraception. Or, if we were using contraception and she made the decision to abort without even telling me, I have to wonder where is the trust in this relationship? At that point I would have to re-evaluate what we mean to each other taking into account such deception.

If this were a case of a one-night stand, and I don't do that, then there's nothing I could add to a discussion with her other than if she has the baby, I will do what a father should do.

I hope that makes sense.

@ Ellessque; Does sound kind of harsh - but fair. And it's your opinion! Your thoughts are definitely important. You're awesome, thanks for sharing. 🙂

@RedScorpio; Sounds like a well-thought out, detailed opinion. Great input, regardless or the "background info" (which there is none since it's just a hypo based question). Thanks. 🙂

Posted by sweat.lioness
@RedScorpio; Sounds like a well-thought out, detailed opinion. Great input, regardless or the "background info" (which there is none since it's just a hypo based question). Thanks. 🙂

You're welcome, but you just made my brain hurt. 🙂

^^ agreed 🙂

Posted by DazedScorp
I really enjoy reading the advice and conversations on the Scorp board...

When it's not about sex (in general), every scorp tends to have amazing answers and a vast knowlege and understanding of their feelings and the topic at hand.

Well done my Scorp friends.

Hell, we never cease to amaze ourselves. 🙂

My favorite mutual admiration society. 🙂

Posted by DazedScorp
I really enjoy reading the advice and conversations on the Scorp board...

When it's not about sex (in general), every scorp tends to have amazing answers and a vast knowlege and understanding of their feelings and the topic at hand.

Well done my Scorp friends.

I do too, too bad that juust when I'm about to conclude how nice it all is in comes one of you closing the door on the other signs with an "oh how awesome and special we all are, how we make it all happen"

and you'd think this would come from a Leo

gotta find another forum I think
don't like to be the star but don't like the groupie thing either


nice seeing you all guys, it's been a pleasure talking to you, maybe I'll come back 🙂
wish you the best of luck !

Piroglesic bear! *many hugs*

@KaleidoScorp; I love your response KaleidoScorp sounds like the similar stuff that some women claim goes on at times in planned parenthood - being too pushy with very little info.

Hmnn but what if the condom breaks and the then pregnant women does not currently feel financially capable or able to have a child? (i.e.) Could not even have a pregnancy interfere with her working duties or she'd be in the street?

Your response held a strong position. Thanks for sharing your opinions. 🙂

Reconstructing_a_Leo; Hmmn I'm not really sure you or I would be considered a groupie. I posted a hypo question on the board and I'm surprised that I got to read so many interesting yet firm and mature points of view. So yeah, they (scorpios) are awesome because a lot of them attempted to help me get a broaden my ways of thinking and in the process maybe each others as well. I mean, for pete's sake I'm not even a scorpio and they were more than happy to answer the thread (with no anti-leo comments/jokes in there).

I would suppose I'm pretty awesome too for thinking up the question ::flips hair:: But sometimes getting too much attention makes me sweat....and sweating is only good when it's sex. 🙂

I am pro-choice when it comes to abortion, every women has the right to choose.
Personally i could never do it, being a mom of a 2 yo and pregnant with my second i couldn't imagine forgoing that, once you've been pregnant and felt the little bugger moving around it can drastically change how you feel
Obviously every baby should be welcomed with love and if the mother feels she cannot provide that then it is ulimately her choice. It is a huge committment to be pregnant for 10 months out of the year but its more important in how that baby is received and raised.
I would never hide an abortion
For the most part i never was with any man i didn't potentially see as a "father" to my child
Luckily though i am in a stable relationship in which i love the babies i bring into the world because it is with the right man for me.

Do you support abortion?
I support a woman's right to choose abortion and I support access to medically safe abortions for all women.

Would you ever consider it?
Not at this stage of my life, but when I was younger, I might have.

Would you ever hide it?
No.

im on both sides on abortion

for it:
is to save your beloved ones life from death after birth

Against it

for thoghs who realised that their missing out on an experiance on rasing a child.... if not going trough bad times ofcoures

Although I'm against abortion, in the case of the Virgo who ruined my budding relationship with the one Scorpio woman I've met in many years, not only would I have paid for the Virgo's mother to have an abortion, I would have performed it myself. Is that wrong?

I agree- great conversation.

I'm not going to comment on the topic because only Scorps were asked to answer, but I read the whole thread and really appreciate how you all gave opinions about a sensitive subject and remained respectful of each other. It would be great to see more of that on DXP.

There does exist a concern that men may not have any legal stance on the abortion issue- although men do have the option to flee from their responsibilities and not raise the child or at times even pay support. Great discussion indeed - makes me think more about the "man's right" to procreate as well. Thank you for your opinions, they are much appreciated.

^^ lol I've been hearing this a lot lately. I'm sorry about the miscarriage. :-\

From an objective stance, they are very much like the scorpion. Hard outside, soft inside, protective sting. I keep hearing that scorps get burned I'm not sure of any other sign of the zodiac that can poison someone and poison kills everyone. Unless you get an antidote or something...in which I guess the Virgo would be good for that, because they represented by a human that could probably just go to the doctor and get the antidote. I know...mindless rumble...