just when i thought he couldn't get weirder

ok. brief background. been seeing a sag since late december, probably about 3 or 4 dates in total and lots of chat in between. i live some distance from him and he has no car and so i have been driving to see him. this weekend i had a lot of work to do at home and so i couldn't go and see him. he flipped out totally and started saying i had no emotion and it was always about me and stuff and had already shown some very controlling signs, so i stopped talking to him yesterday.

today he started texting in the afternoon and then called me. he sounded like a mentalist and was saying how he had just discovered that i had attempted to download something from his laptop when i was at his last weekend. he said he thought it strange i had brought my laptop too (for work) and that i didn't switch it off. he basically said i had stolen his secret files and had discovered that his gf (!) was a scam artist.

when he delivered that on the phone, i paused before pissing myself laughing. WTF?? i have never heard anything so ridiculous.

he said the fact i laughed proved i was a liar.

WHY CAN'T I ATTRACT SOMEONE NORMAL—

There are idiots out there - great that you found out now and not several months down the line. Thank him for showing his true self and move on.

Little point. If a guy lives far away and doesn't have a car, leave it up to him to find a way of seeing you. It's a good test of how interested he is. Nothing wrong with driving over occasionally, especially once you are in a relationship, but early on, get him to come to you. If he wants you to run round after him because he hasn't got a car, then that would be a red flag for me.

Wow, got him to confess about the secret files without even asking. You scorpios are good 😛

must admit, i am finding the 'secret files' business intruiguing 😛

he has this thing he's invented. a glow in the dark compound. he's been developing the idea for 3 years. so far not one sale made so it's not as if it's some secret formula for wealth, lol. just had him ranting about it on skype. had to put my hand over the mic for laughing so much. he loco!!


not without talent though 😛

now on skype IM: I hoped maybe I could have a relationship with someone who liked me for me..all you saw was the bad boy which is all that ever attracts or interests you

i have to say, he has a point there.

you attract what you are

"maybe I was stupid to ever think that someone like you could ever love someone like me"

ouch. that hurt 😢

dazed: now that's proper baaaadass 😛

i attract mosquitos in summer. does that mean i'm a mosquito?

lol...not even close.

don't go bare in the woods then

Posted by DazedScorp

Posted by Sag89
you attract what you are

I'm quite sure she's a woman...

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ah I forgot honesty is not welcome here. so sorry

i dunno. i think scorps are way too evasive for sags. they seem to like control like the other fire signs and we don't give anyone control of us. i shudder at the thought of that.

ok. please bear in mind, i hooked up with this guy on 21st december before i went away for 2 weeks. this is him on skype im:

well you have and I do...somedays I wish I didnt have to wake upandlive every day in constant pain and wondering what I have dome wrong and to wonder if there ever will be someone there for me wholoves and cares for me and wants to be with me to work at things together to have a relitivly normalkind of life...I guess I was barking up the wrong tree all along...saw this comin and thats why I tried to tellyou..but as always you dont holdany faith or trust in anything I do or say
Imjust another dick who may one day try tofuckyouover as far as your concerned andI cant walk on eggshells

possible stalker?

in response to me saying i didn't intend to make him feel shit (fyi)

he's probably emotionally unstable

now he's saying i'm a fucking cokehead!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have only sniffed of the devil's dandruff on 2 occasions fyi insane sag man.

oh my word! new phrase for having sex with a woman...'smashing the back door out of her'

LOL

does that imply anal do you think?

apparently, i called him by another name when we had sex!!!

now i know this to be untrue. i NEVER mention names for fear of offending 😛

LOOLZ...i don't even know any nicks

oh i yelled plenty but definately no names

Not true you just think sooneror later I will shit on you like everyone else has before me
but you dont like that good guys you just like bad boys and all the shit that goes with them
you have fucked my head for the last time now...I cant deal with this anymore..your too much hard work and you hurt my feelings

double ouch 😢

interesting use of aliteration though...good guys, bad boys.

Jesus God.... what is this man's chart. Post please.

i've shaken him off for the night at least. thank god. i was losing the will to live:

sun: sag
moon: cancer
merc: sag
venus: sag
mars: virgo
jupiter: taurus
saturn: pisces
uranus: virgo
pluto: virgo
lilith: cap
asc node: gem

goodnight all.

Well, well, well. Makes sense. I dated a Sag with Cancer moon. Needless to say, about a month into it I was trying to figure out how to end it. Took a month. It's his Moon, possibly his Venus too. Mainly that moon.

Will wear you down until you want to call him a baby and to grow up. He'll be relentless, but on his terms. Don't be surprised if he becomes cold and detached, yet won't leave you alone about it. Like a gnat, relentlessly annoying. Comical too.

Your Sag sounds like a lunatic who sounds like he sniffs coke himself if he actually believes you downloaded his 'secret files'. The comical value is immense, you couldn't even make it, lol!

He's got the self pity, martyr down pat.

What a nut job!

ocean: i've realised this is gonna be trickier to exit than i thought. he keeps saying he's done and then in the next breath, the ball's back in my court! he is un-hinged for sure although i can't help but feel bad. i hate hurting people, even if they're crazy.

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
oi hate hurting people, even if they're crazy.

But isn;t this hurting you?

Well, it does get tricky. Ugh. I feel bad for you. As hard as it is, I am the same way where I feel bad if I come across mean or hurting someone, BUT you have to just do it. Say your peace, and then ignore him from here on out. Tell him if he doesn't stop you'll block him from everything. If he continues, tell him you'll report him. Seriously. He needs to know you're serious.

Right now he knows you're waivering. You haven't blown. He needs the perverbial slap in the face, or cold water to the face. Don't entertain in any of his antics, words, or crap he's spewing. Nothing. Although it's fueling it more by ignoring it, it will fuel it even more if you acknowledge it, defend yourself, or try to explain. He's seeking an apology from you, and/or remorse. Once you do, you've set your pace and road with this creepy creeper creep.

He's going to feed off of this for quite a few reasons, and serious reasons. He's found something in you that he realizes he can prey on...somewhere he's picked up on you feeling bad about hurting people, etc. Something. Also, he's using everything he can to manipulate you into feeling bad about yourself, and about how he perceives you seeing him as a person. Additionally, it's a form of emotional and mental abuse. His mind is reeling, and as it storms through his thoughts and his emotions, it's brewing more and more. He's also entertaining himself over this, that's a promise.

ocean, you have this guy down to a tee. he just called my cell and told me to get on skype right now cos he wanted to talk to me. shouldn't have bothered. after 5 minutes of him ranting, he shouted that he would make it easy for me and screamed fuck off at me before disconnecting.

guess i don't give a crap about hurting crazies after all. i'm ignoring all further contact and i already know there will be further contact from him.

the thing he preys on is the fact that he knows a guy who hurt me badly last year and keeps going on about it and sneering at me for being played by him. he said he resents being made to pay for previous shitty experiences but i say that it's kind of a natural instinct you develop as you go along with good, and bad experiences...called learning from mistakes?

he's become very ugly now. i have lost sight of what i saw in him completely. i feel a bit threatened actually.

and what do you know! he just sent me this on facebook:

You aint right in the head
Its no wonder no bloke wants to get involved with you..yes what you said is right you are a heartless bitch and a fuckin psycholtic nightmare...I aint goin to be played by you any more..its obvious now you already got someone else on the scene...its your bullshit and the lies I really dislike...cant you at least be honest for once in your sad little life? No wonder yiour lifes a fucked upmess all the time you create all this shit by yourself!!!!!

btw, my life is not a fucked up mess 🙂

Oh R1g 😢 God I feel horrible, and so badly for you!

It won't be hard at this point to be done with him. Stay strong. Just DONT for any reason respond to him unless it's to tell him if he doesnt stop, you will report him. At this point, seriously, start keeping these things. Don't delete anything. Just in case.

With the one I dated, strange you said you're feeling threatened, that how I felt... that he was capable of hurting someone. Not intentionally, but if he got to that point or over the top in anger. I felt controlled and manipulated by him. In a very subtle way. He too fed on my past relationships, used that as 'MY problem and faults, bringing into us and our relationship.' Same as yours.

I just said it in another thread last week, I would place money he was behind his exes 'new boyfriends' death in a car accident. That's how 'creeped' out I was getting with vibes I was picking up on him. And then things he and his sister told me. Yet, looking at him a very nice person. Underneath? Whole other story.

None of this right away. Not at first, just slowly began to see things about him that scared/creeped me. And finding him very controlling, again in a subtle way. Oh God the stories, and in such a short time. Not anything anyone would see unless you're intuitive to people, etc.

So for you, go with what you're sensing. You weren't off before, and it's becoming more and more real and apparent to you. Then you know what you are sensing is right. Just don't tell him that, it will open a whole new thing and a horrible can of worms.

LOL @ aliennation!! yeah, i agree that someone is bound to be sensitive if they've poured their heart and soul into developing it but it was the way he instantly lept to the wrong conclusion and shouting his mouth off about me being a thieving bitch.

the big problem here is that he works at the same company although he's on his last week if he doesn't get a deal. i can only cross my fingers that's the case and if he keeps ranting at clients and talking to them like shit, he may not even make friday!! all day, people have been asking me what the fuck is up with him and so obviously they know something's gone on between us now which is not good, especially as i'm more senior than him.

sometimes, i think the first impression of a massively agressive ego like his is that perhaps they truly are a cut above the rest but when the substance starts unravelling, it starts to look a little pathetic.

R1g, saw this and immediately thought of you with creepy creeper creep 😛

You like bad boys huh?

I didn't use my blinker when I switched lanes on the way to work today.

NOw whip it, whip it, GOOD.

I am always in the shit its only the depth that varies, applies to this guy as well. Make out I stole whatever was in his pc funny thing is that I dont have any hacking skills. But he was trying to get me in, no I stopped myself coz I saw what he was trying to do. Yeh, turn it around and around.

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
ok. brief background. been seeing a sag since late december, probably about 3 or 4 dates in total and lots of chat in between. i live some distance from him and he has no car and so i have been driving to see him. this weekend i had a lot of work to do at home and so i couldn't go and see him. he flipped out totally and started saying i had no emotion and it was always about me and stuff and had already shown some very controlling signs, so i stopped talking to him yesterday.

today he started texting in the afternoon and then called me. he sounded like a mentalist and was saying how he had just discovered that i had attempted to download something from his laptop when i was at his last weekend. he said he thought it strange i had brought my laptop too (for work) and that i didn't switch it off. he basically said i had stolen his secret files and had discovered that his gf (!) was a scam artist.

when he delivered that on the phone, i paused before pissing myself laughing. WTF?? i have never heard anything so ridiculous.

he said the fact i laughed proved i was a liar.

WHY CAN'T I ATTRACT SOMEONE NORMAL—

I pray that you will avoid the Sag. completely. We Scorpios are allergic to them. When we get together, it's like water (Scorpio) meets fire (Sag.). They call that, "Steam"!! Yes, we can have a passionate relationship with them but you are going to struggle with the Sag., so skip 'em. My Sag. literally destroyed me and I had to re-build my life. Life's too short for that kind of pain.

leos and aries are absolutely no problem but the sag is something else!! i wonder if it's cos the sign is close to scorp whereas, giving the sign some kind of weird edge....or rather, an evil twist.

i'm actually getting affected by this guy now. like i say, he works for the same company and today he followed me on a break and was saying shit about the guy i had been seeing before saying that he's already with someone else and so obviously doesn't want me and how no man would ever want to be with me cos i'm a bad bitch and so i just walked off back to the office. when i went to leave, which i do before the others to work at home, he came out after me and kept saying...come here...to which i backed further and further away. he wanted to give me a fucking hug!! he was saying...why don't you stop this now?...to me—

i have to hope he gets fired on friday. so far, that's still on course. my boss has got wind of what's going on too and he's not happy with the sag one bit.

thing is, i know he was going for my weak spot which is the guy who fucked me over last year and it really hurt and he knew it when he was saying shit.

he reminds me of an aries i was with...one minute really moody and off, the next really clingy and needy. extremes. omg how scorps draw these people to us!!

trouble is...how do we shake them off?

You sure are spending a lot of time and energy on following/watching his every move/word as it concerns you ... considering you're the person who is claiming to have left him without an utterance because he was too wierd to even have the respect from you in telling him you're finished.


Oh wait ... you're still following him = so, you aren't finished.


Oh, I see it now .... you just mean to play with his feelings because you think it makes you bigger than him.

Holy macaroni and cheese, R1g.

100% agree with Brim. I'm not trying to put fear into you, but girl youve gotta do something so he knows the game is over. And like Brim said, dont let him see anything from you but cold as ice. Any warmth at all, even a small smile just to cool him down is going to give him a false signal that you are into him.

He loses his job, and take this time 1000000 esculation. Im wondering if some of this too is because he has little man syndrom, since you are his superior.

He's a cracked pot. Period.

Man has completely gone and lost his head, and before now. And because of that.....He's attached himself to you, you showed interest.

Fucker needs to be stopped now R1g. Youve been decent, kind, and sympathetic enough. ... and that's by you not blowing by now.

Army of one to come in. Pick your battles. Well here's your battle. Get your game face on and tell him it's enough, and if he doesnt get fired by Friday you'll be sure to file harrassment both at work and at the local P.D. His choice.

Not kidding. Been through this before. And it wasn't the Sag. You need to stop it now, it is esculating beyond the byond. This is down right freaky, creepy, and concerning even moreso than yesterday.

Guy's a fruitloop short of being Tu Can Sam.

p-angel: i'm not following him, it's the other way around and to be honest, i don't feel very good about what he's got going on in his head. i feel responsible for triggering whatever issues he has. ultimately, his only 'crime' has been to like me but unfortunately, when it became obvious i didn't feel the same way, he flipped out totally. i'm not very good at telling people directly to fuck off...libran moon doesn't like confrontation. i just clam up instead but that seems to make him worse.

the thing is, when you first start dating someone, you are getting to know them and the initial interest level can sometimes lower as you realise you're not compatible. it doesn't mean you're playing with their feelings though, more that you're discovering what they are as you go along.

brim: can i ask why the hug was a big red flag?

Here you are .. talking about his every move as it concerns you, while not conveying actually TO HIM all of this.


You have given yourself the right to be silent, while telling us all about his wierdness when alls he's trying to do is to get you to speak.

If you think he's fucked up, then tell him how you feel and leave it alone .... but, instead of doing that like an adult, you've reduced yourself to his level by coming in here to laugh at him and mock him, as you not only follow his every move he makes to get your attention, you also tell us so we can comment/laugh at him also.



that makes you just like him

that is true. it's not great reporting on this kind of thing on a forum but that's why people say shit on forums, cos who would actually do that kind of thing for real?

we do have dialogue. i have maintained calmly with him that i don't feel the same way. i have now asked him to talk to me on IM so that we can say what we feel without winding up shouting each other down. he says he feels like shit. i don't want him to. no-one deserves to. i've been where he's been but just reacted differently.

wow brim! that was really interesting and spot on about the situation i'm in. i was in a very controlling relationship before and the pattern seems to be that they knock your confidence to the ground over a period of time with insults and sneering and then proceed to walk all over you.

last night i was trying to talk rationally on IM with him and he was talking about taking an overdose (he's quite ill and on painkillers) and really pulling on the sympathy vote but i've heard all that kind of thing before and from what i know, people who threaten suicide rarely go through with it cos they're after the attention from the threat itself.

this is now becoming very difficult because i am mostly aware that any action either way is encouraging him, if i ignore him, i worry what the reaction will be and if i'm angry with him, his anger becomes worse.

i'm not gonna lie and say i didn't find this all hilarious in the first place cos i really did but now, it's dragged me down a whole lot. he's not coming to the office today cos he's ill and i'm thinking they will fire him by the end of the week.

this is now weighing on my conscience like it's all my fault 😢

he's being fired at the end of the week. apparently clients called all day yesterday complaining at the messages he had left on their voicemail cos he was rude and agressive. NOW my colleagues tell me they were worried about me talking to him in the first place but at least now they're all being supportive. the guy knows where i live but i am trying to move as quickly as possible. he has to take responsibility for his own fuck ups now. i can't cope with his shit along with my own.