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tiki: ""I said rappers and musicians...your brain is stuck on rappers LMAO!! Why do you care now LMAO!! That was 10 post back...""

- I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was a response deadline. Perhaps if you had answered my question the first time I asked, I wouldn't have to repeat myself 10 posts later.

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tiki: ""maybe I will entertain your pick apart-ism...hmmm I don't think I will.""

- Pick apart-ism? M'kay. Hon, generally when a person wants to show that an argument is invalid or baseless, they attempt to weaken its foundations. Those are the basic goals of debating a subject. Once again, the reason why I asked you to identify the rappers is because you've obviously given merit to their opinions. Otherwise, you wouldn't have mentioned them. As far as I'm concerned, most modern-day rappers are no authorities on politics, and are some of the last people who should question integrity, given many of their contributions (or lack thereof) to society. Subsequently, the opinions to which you give merit, in turn, speak volumes about the weight of your own.

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tiki: ""you said you don't read everything so yeah maybe you can do the research yourself, I would be wasting my time dropping names, I think you would get more out of it if you did the work yourself just like I did...""


- If you "did the work", as you say, then you'd be able to provide names. Anybody with a 3rd grade education and a basic knowledge of debate, knows that if you refer to someone, particularly in defense of an argument, then you ought to be able to site the source. The reason why you won't, is because you can't.

Think about what you wrote for a second. You stated that a white supremacist group, has actually endorsed (meaning "to support") a MAN OF COLOR, who is in the running to be the leader of the nation in which they reside. The statement itself is contradictory. This leads me, or anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together, to believe that you gathered this bullshit-ass hearsay story from none other than The National Enquirer tabloid. How's that for "doing research"?


My issue isn't that you aren't an Obama supporter, it's that your accusations against him don't make a bit of sense.
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ScorpSuperior find someone else to fight and swing your venomous baby stinger at okay, you like a few others love throwing your nazi name committee badge around, you wear it proud. You can't even speak without calling names because your mind is very weak.

You yourself said you don't take the time to read so why would I continue to feed a non-reader information. I take time to read everyones post because I would hope they would take the time and patience to read mine before I respond back but since you don't give the same courtesy I will scan through your mini novel and not give you that respect of making a valid point and if you really want a go at it...

I agree agree agree with you LOL! Whatever you say I agree....your right i'm wrong...
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And for the record if you look back 20 post which I know you won't, I apologized to everyone and I made it clear why I was apologizing...I never understood why people can't have debates without anger, its not even necessary...so what if someone is right or wrong, so what if people throw things out there to make people think and question, thats part of debating, we don't have to agree with one another and yet we don't have to hit below the belt because someone isn't on the same page as the other person, everyone is entitled to an opinion and should be able to speak without reproach or being attacked with names.
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""You yourself said you don't take the time to read...""

Well, then, that makes 2 of us. lol 🙂 Because I actually didn't refer to you as any name other than tiki. 🙂 This has nothing to do with venom or a stinger. Try to think outside the astrology box for a second. And for the record, I did go back and read your posts, and it was confirmed that you talk out of your neck.

I'm not trying to fight with you, rather, my objective was to get you to acknowledge your baseless argument, which you are too proud to do. Don't blame me b/c you're developmentally incapable of defending your irrational statements. I didn't write them, you did. 🙂

""I agree agree agree with you LOL! Whatever you say I agree....your right i'm wrong...""

- That is a cop-out. A retort given when an individual isn't able to explain her thought process in a way that doesn't demonstrate cognitive impairment.
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I live outside the box so I expect people to think my way of thought is outrageous LOL! I have no issues with that or with you. If someone feels I talk outside of my neck that means they use there brain cells and I'm all for people not being lazy minded but I also know many people who FEEL what I'm saying and thats okay too.

To agree is to go with the flow not against it, I don't sit here and go against the flow of life nor conversations, to humble ones self and say aight you got it your right yet I don't agree but your right well that ends it all, I'm old enough to know that the easiest way to win is to agree..the only way to know if its true is to do it.
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I can answer questions, I have answered multiple questions but you simply turned me off with your lazy mind and if you go back and read previous post you can see were I have addressed others but I refuse to answer questions with someone who doesn't take time to read what you call mini novels when people post, thats called being LAZY and why would I enable you to be that way. You called me ignorant and I answered that didn't I? LOL!!!

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Think about what you wrote for a second. You stated that a white supremacist group, has actually endorsed (meaning "to support") a MAN OF COLOR, who is in the running to be the leader of the nation in which they reside. The statement itself is contradictory. This leads me, or anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together, to believe that you gathered this bullshit-ass hearsay story from none other than The National Enquirer tabloid. How's that for "doing research"?

I find it interesting how race has become a HUGE issue when it comes to Mr.Obama -- its very sad actaully. All the people that were very "lets all live together and get along" and "the same blood runs through yours veins runs through mine", have a totally different outlook when the leader of this country could be someone other then what is considered the "norm".

Even here where I live, its amazing how people reveal themselves once things begin to change. I don't say too much because some nutcase will try and debate me on this, but I've seen how the attitudes of some have changed from 2007 to 2008.
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I don't know, I just feel this sickness come about when I have to defend why I choose to vote for Obama. It's almost like I have to know his ENTRIE life story, his WHOLE political career and MORE. Everytime I watch the news, I hear so much talk about the "race" thing. My friends agree, only two don't but they support McCain ... mainly because their parents tell them

I've seen Clinton verses H. Bush

I've seen Clinton verses Bob Dole

I've seen Al Gore verses W. Bush

I've seen John Kerry verses W. Bush ...

and in neither match up have I seen the craziness of race or even gender -- lets not leave Hillary out, she took a few hits because of her gender, I live in a county where I heard many negative comments about both Barack and Hillary based on things neither one can help.

The things I've heard have upset me, but people don't know who I want, so they feel they can tell me anything -- haha, I just nod and try to stay as neutral as I can. I have a few people under the impression that I want McCain, only to hear their true feelings about Barack Obama and (before she dropped out) Hillary Clinton. And yes, I've been told by some that they aren't ready to have an African American in office -- they say how terrible they feel for saying that, then they ask for my opinion -- I try to stay as neutral as possible, only so they can keep talking 😉

No politian is perfect, no politian is 100% , why on earth does he have to have the best track record while others get looked over. I mean, the man can't help the fact that he's popular, if he's the "IT" guy, so what? That's nothing to get bend out of shape over. Honestly, there's so many other things to be up-in-arms about.

So those that say that race has nothing to do with it are totally full of it, I've heard people say that they would vote for Hillary or John McCain before Barack simply because of that.

It's terrible, silly, etc .... I don't know how to convey how I feel about that. We live in a society where things have to stay or either look the same in order to get the "okay". Whatever, that's bullshit.
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really? I don't recall John Kennedy being black. Leaders are always a target for some nutjob who wants to see his name in headlines.

No he wasn't BUT!!!! (this is from history, I don't know because I wasn't there obviously) he was "POPUALR" (there's that cute read again 🙂) with many black citizens at the time. From what I read and heard in documentaries concerning his life, he received plenty of backlash because of that.
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FA,

I live in a county where if don't like John McCain, then there must be something wrong wih you if your person of choice is Obama. Actually, many around here wanted Mitt Romney, SOOOO0 many people were disappointed when he dropped out, except for me, LOL. I was surprised -- I thought Mitt totally had it over John McCain but I guess his religion played a role with conservatives -- WHICH IS STUPID.

Goodness, people who are different can't win 😢
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"Well, you obviously never watched Bubba Ho-Tep.

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An old Elvis, who impersonates an Elvis impersonator(or possibly an Elvis impersonator who impersonates Elvis, who impersonates an Elvis impersonator) and an old JFK who has been painted black by the FBI(or possibly some random psycho) come together at a nursing home to fight a mummy that steals souls by sucking them through people's assholes. You should watch it,
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"i knew branh was a slave, but i didn't realize there were so many more slaves roaming dxp."

"Slave ass."

I hope for your sake that you don't say that to someone in real life, especially another black person, because you might be running the risk of getting your face busted up for shooting your mouth off like that.

Anyway, back to the subject. I myself am voting for Paul mainly for his issues on taxes, the return to gold backed currency, and generally keeping the government out of our lives as much as possible. I don't believe that the government has the right to save people from themselves, that's up to the people as individuals. But yet again, the sheeple seem afraid of self determinism.

Speaking of slavery, Obama is your typical undercover Socialist. When politicians say "help the little guy," he/she usually means "you shouldn't have control of the money that you earned." Do you guys know what Socialism is? State run slavery. Socialist governments tend to try to keep people dependant on the system. MCain is no better, he just subscribes to a different form of fuck the people up the ass. Liberal Democrat = Socialist, Neoconservative Republican = Fascist. MCain = Fascist, Obama = Socialist. Fuck them both, and especially fuck Hillary, I'm so relieved she's out.
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""I hope for your sake that you don't say that to someone in real life, especially another black person, because you might be running the risk of getting your face busted up for shooting your mouth off like that. ""


Believe it or not, I say it all the time in RL actually. lol Never had my face busted up. Your interpetation of the usage says more about you than it does about me.


Ever watch Dave Chappelle? lmao He's so real. I love it.
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Satire is my preferred type of humor. I was listening to an interview of an Israeli comedian by the name of Israel [insert last name here]. Much of his material covers the ongoing demographic tensions in that region of the world. He said that people often get up and walk out of his shows, some even demand their money back. But at the end of the day, he gets pleasure out of knowing that he has brought to the forefront, issues that we often sweep under the table, and compels the general public to look at what they'd rather run away from.

Why does everyone pretend to ignore race, as if it is an irrelevant or taboo subject? It is OKAY to talk about it. In fact, it would probably make a tremendous difference in race-relations if we were more candid about the topic. We are so afraid to be labeled as xenophobic, that we remain ignorant because we don't openly share our thoughts and questions. Most people have initial biases, that they either maintain, or eventually get past. So why not discuss and run the chance of gaining a broader understanding?



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Interesting.

I never mentioned anything about his color. You did. You seem to have made a connection b/w color, and the term "slave", and ascribed your own thought process to me.

Have you ever read a history book? Did you know that slavery was practiced before America was born? or that non-black groups of people have been enslaved?

Slavery is a state of mind. It is a mindset that is resistant to change, and bound by its own fears and self-imposed restrictions.

Open a book. In the meantime, get off my labia. 🙂
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If it helps, I believe I understand your anger, TDA. I just think you're having a difficult time putting my words into proper perspective because of that emotion. Many words have more than one meaning and interpretation. You have attached YOUR own meaning to MY words. I think it's good though, in a way. This type of resentment (if whatever you choose to call it) ought to be discussed.

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"If it helps, I believe I understand your anger, TDA. I just think you're having a difficult time putting my words into proper perspective because of that emotion. Many words have more than one meaning and interpretation. You have attached YOUR own meaning to MY words. I think it's good though, in a way. This type of resentment (if whatever you choose to call it) ought to be discussed."

I just think that "sheep" is a better word choice than "slave." There's a huge difference between the two.
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""I just think that "sheep" is a better word choice than "slave." There's a huge difference between the two.""

- Not if the intent is the same. It makes you feel better if I were to use the word "sheep" b/c of the connotations and emotions you've attached to the term, "slave". An indiviual can be a slave to a philosophy, an impulse, or some other entity. You took it upon yourself to associate my descriptive choice with the disreputable Western institution. That's perfectly understandable, as long as you are aware that I have little to do with your groundless inference. I say groundless because there were no clear assumptions when I referred to Branh's captivity. As I said before, you projected your thought process onto me.

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I will give you an example of a somewhat more clear-cut assumption:

You sure you want to go there with me? Come better armed.

Let's have a closer look at this exchange.

*Arianlatay: "You know...I've always wanted to try a white guy...I do happen to be attracted to red head guys and white guys with dark features....in addition to black men.

I never approach them though. I guess I automatically think white guys only like the black performer girls and don't like black women in real life."


*tall dark and aries 7/15/2007 7:42:09 PM: "If you want to holler at a a white guy, just be sweet and respectful, and not too loud yet not too quiet. "

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You have here an apprehensive woman who states that she is black and is interested in dating white men. Immediately following, you advise her that if she wishes to attract a white man, she should attempt to exemplify integrity and refinement. This implies that she had not already had such things. That as a black woman, she must somehow acquire these standards of gentleness and respect in order to be accepted by a white man. You made two ignorant assumptions based on color alone; 1) white = exclusively desiring of class; and 2) the female in question, being non-white, is devoid of such qualities. It is all evident in your semantics.


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