cold and withholding

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by livictori on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 and has 11 replies.

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I forgot what it was like to deal with scorpios. My mom is a scoprio sun and taurus moon. I don't know her other placements.
One of her tactics to abuse me as a child was to ignore me. My leo dad took me from her when I was about 5. But she and I can only work if I'm the mother and she is the child. She takes care of my other siblings (4 living) but me, she honest could not interact with unless I allowed her to manipulate me. I always thought she had post partum depression because she lost twin girls just before she got pregnant with me. Even as an infant, she didn't nurture me and my 16 year old sister took care of me.

What exactly do you guys feel? I understand the depth part but the lack of expression, coldness and indifference is on a level I don't understand.

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Her birthdate is 11/6/38 and she was born in Haiti but I don't know the time. I'm 38 and she's 77. I don't speak to her. She apologizes now but she says stuff like I didn't know better. I thought I was doing the right thing. Nothing that says she has an inkling of what it was like to grow up craving her attention

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Posted by livictori
I forgot what it was like to deal with scorpios. My mom is a scoprio sun and taurus moon. I don't know her other placements.
One of her tactics to abuse me as a child was to ignore me. My leo dad took me from her when I was about 5. But she and I can only work if I'm the mother and she is the child. She takes care of my other siblings (4 living) but me, she honest could not interact with unless I allowed her to manipulate me. I always thought she had post partum depression because she lost twin girls just before she got pregnant with me. Even as an infant, she didn't nurture me and my 16 year old sister took care of me.

What exactly do you guys feel? I understand the depth part but the lack of expression, coldness and indifference is on a level I don't understand.

Perhaps the problem is not dealing with your past and needing to get some help to get over what took place in the past. Your last post:
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/scorpio/omg-the-moodiness-5507130/

shows that because you had a negative experience with your mother, you automatically assume ALL Scorps are like your mother, which is simply not the case.

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Posted by starlover
Yes i found that strange Elle, that the birth date was *changed* .. strange!

the father of my children is the 6th, she is the 6th and the person I'm seeing is the 24 of october. you can miss tpye on an iphone. How else would I have known Taurus. It's not that serious

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Posted by starlover
Yes i found that strange Elle, that the birth date was *changed* .. strange!

the father of my children is the 6th, she is the 6th and the person I'm seeing is the 24 of october. you can miss tpye on an iphone. How else would I have known Taurus. It's not that serious

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Posted by LetltB
Posted by livictori
I forgot what it was like to deal with scorpios. My mom is a scoprio sun and taurus moon. I don't know her other placements.
One of her tactics to abuse me as a child was to ignore me. My leo dad took me from her when I was about 5. But she and I can only work if I'm the mother and she is the child. She takes care of my other siblings (4 living) but me, she honest could not interact with unless I allowed her to manipulate me. I always thought she had post partum depression because she lost twin girls just before she got pregnant with me. Even as an infant, she didn't nurture me and my 16 year old sister took care of me.

What exactly do you guys feel? I understand the depth part but the lack of expression, coldness and indifference is on a level I don't understand.

Perhaps the problem is not dealing with your past and needing to get some help to get over what took place in the past. Your last post:
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/scorpio/omg-the-moodiness-5507130/

shows that because you had a negative experience with your mother, you automatically assume ALL Scorps are like your mother, which is simply not the case.

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I have been friends with plenty of scorpio. I think if we stay friends my demands are not that serious. It can be superficial or simple. But if the relationship is more than that, I find it's not enough.
I always go back to my other because that is what it feels like; unbalanced and needy.

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Posted by starlover
Eh— You said her birthday was the 7th ^^^^^ did you just say *she* was the 6th and is *she* the mother? I don't get what you are saying. I put up a chart for you

WOW. i'm not crazy. My iphone is cracked. her's is really the 7th. lol

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Posted by starlover
...and why did you say you forgot what it is like to deal with Scorps if you are seeing one?

we've only been dating for 3 months and I generally avoid getting too close to them. Maybe it's me and my needs. But I tended to be more attracted to fire signs

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You're right about the "attraction of deprivation". When I found out about this theory, it resonated. It's why I like fire signs so much. They're expressive good/bad but long term, I hate relating to them. With intimate scorpio relationships there's a slowness I appreciate and an unraveling that seems sincere. My neediness rears its head. While I've learned to no be demanding, rage is another thing.
You're also right in that I did overreact. I hate feeling like I over invested and his cool demeaned made me feel exposed. I wish it were different. As I hear him express how he felt rejected, I feel the same. It's so confusing with the blame game, I didn't chase.
I hate getting attached to people because the process of detaching is painfully annoying. Unless someone does something agregious, I feel it can work. So I'll sit it out for a few, I've got bigger fish to fry... Pun intended