Getting over a scorpio woman (long story)

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lostatsea
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I'm a Sag male. I met a scorpio girl online, and we became very close. Think 1500+ hours of talking over a year and a half or so. She was 18 and in college. Extremely attractive, with a good personality. But very social awkward. She had 3 friends she would hang out with rarely, but she for the most part she lived a loner life and spent all her time at home, on her computer. Often chatting with me on skype. She was living that loner life for year. Her phone was for the most part unused except for the few texts she would share with those friends, and the emailing me and her would do everyday.

But I couldn't keep it up. She lived on the west coast. I live on the east coast. She would want to stay up till 5:30 am everyday. For along time I did too, taking on a very weird sleeping schedule. But I love spending time with her. I knew everything about her, and even though we never met, I fell in love with her.

Which is also where the friction happened. She would constantly say things that would make me feel terrible. We're not real friends, you can't be friends with someone you've never met in real life. We're just two people who talk. I was there for some huge moments in her life, like her birthday, Christmas, New Years, multiple sad moments. She would message me to come talk to her if I wasn't online. At the same time she would say we aren't even friends. Or you're not allowed to use my name.

We stopped talking a bunch of times. I'm the honest Sag, and I told her I liked her too much, she doesn't feel the same, so I needed to stop talking to her. Each time we stopped it was longer than the last. A week, 2 weeks, etc. But every time we stopped she would eventually email me again usually sad. I couldn't stay away.

I watched an innocent naive girl turn into a super sexual scorpio. She had almost no experience with guys. She got into cybersexing. Met a guy, gave her first bj. Was devastated when he flew back to Canada after two guys. The longest break we had was 6 weeks. She gave up her virginity to a guy who reminded her of Eddie Vedder. But discovered the next morning she hated him. She felt so horrible. She emailed me after 6 weeks of talking saying she needed to talk or she might do something stupid.

I was always there to comfort her. But it killed me seeing her with all these guys. I wanted to be the guy. But our relationship was never sexual. She is a super flirty typical scorpio but she said the energy wasn't right.
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She admitted she loved me a different way. The way that when I wasn't there it physically hurt her. I'm guessing she loved me like a best friend.

Anyway that wouldn't work for me. I'm not like her where I can casually hook up with a bunch of different people. I have eyes for one person at a time, and for a year it was her. I confessed I loved her, and we need to move on from each other. It's obvious we're holding each other back from meeting the people we need to meet. She took a week or two then came back and said she felt the same way. But I just knew it wasn't true. She was still lying about liking people I knew for a fact she liked. So I said bye.

She was depressed. I could tell from her social media posts. But two weeks later, she was reborn like I read about in the Scorpio phoenix. She went to a party, got drunk, had sex with a guy. But unlike Vedder she was happy with this. All her social anxiety disappeared. She got very aggressive with guys. Has had sex with 4 guys in the past 7 weeks, all on the first night. Parties often, meets new guys, has no problem flirting, sexting and sending nudes. It's like a completely different girl.

I was heartbroken and tried talking to her. She said I didn't expect her to move on, and she did. She's right of course. But my feelings were real. We tried being friends again, but the same things I used to do now annoy the hell out of her. She lost her trust in me, and acts paranoid. Everything I say or ask is me trying to analyze her and figure her out. I'm acting the same way it's her who has changed. In the end she said we have too much baggage now and she doesn't want anything to do with me. Which really is for the best.

But I have never been so mindfucked by a girl in my life. I have no idea if she ever even liked me, or if she just had nobody else. I know she took advantage of my kindness, but I also know I kind of wanted her to. How did she change her entire life in two weeks? I'm just so baffled. But here I am still all alone every night thinking about her, and how we used to chat away, when she's always out now doing who knows what.
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lostatsea
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God I'm so trapped in my head over this. This must be what they mean when they say it's dangerous falling in love with a scorpio. She went from saying she loved me too, which I didn't really believe, to thinking I'm a complete asshole in two weeks. She did all these over the top things, like put up song covers for me on youtube of The One that Got Away, and Last Kiss. She really did seem so sad.

Her nights used to involve updating tumblr all night, and now her social accounts are barely used. She got over all her issues so quickly. The last few times we talked it was like a different girl. Her entire attitude was different. Did I ever even know her?
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This is an all too common tale with Scorpio ladies. They get you totally obsessed with them and then toy with you mentally while they're not out being femme fatales. Young Scorp girls get turned off if they think you like them too much (your mistake). My advice, since you live on different coasts, you need to move on. Stop trolling her social media. Hang out with real girls, and if she tries to contact you just ignore it. Trust me you'll be much happier once you break the spell. Try a Taurus gal. Still deep and sensual, won't make you go insane.

Maybe down the road once she's matured a little and if you're in the same place you can give it a go and maybe get some closure, but for now you need to do your best to forget about her.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I think I've definitely been hit by the venom. I don't like the idea of "not being able to handle" her. She's used that phrase herself several times. Which I find weird, since I'm still the same guy, and I'm not the one getting annoyed, or getting mad. I've actually never treated her unkindly at this time, even after she treated me like crap.

I think you're right about too big a heart though. All those times she got so sad and emailed me, I was there to comfort her. The one time I emailed her after she moved on she said I was dramatic for being sad. I know Scorpios are contradictory but does that also mean hypocritical and cold hearted. We weren't good for each other. Her family used to constantly say she lacks empathy, and I have to agree. She just got so moody it made it hard. Depending on her mood we can be cool buds laughing away or everything I can say pisses her off. But how is that my fault? Plus when she got upset there is absolutely no reasoning with her. She starts acting irrational, just looking for a fight.

But even after all that, I still can't get her out of my head. It's ridiculous.

Good luck with your taurus friend. I know even an online friend done right can bring you a lot of happiness.
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lostatsea
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No you're right. I do ask questions, see things and then make what I would call logical assumptions. I was always trying to get to know her better. She hated it but allowed it. Toward the end, the last few times we stopped talking she was really lonely. I thought it might have been about me. She said no I was being conceited. After a while she came back and said yeah of course it was me. I kind of forced her to be more honest than she was willing a few times.

In the end if she really wanted nothing to do with me it would have been easy. I was fine staying away multiple times. But she kept coming all sad and emotional. I was never the guy to be like, I don't care. Go away. She knew that, and used it to her maximum advantage.

All up to the point where now it's too late. She's stuck in my head.
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Posted by lostatsea
Which I find weird, since I'm still the same guy, and I'm not the one getting annoyed, or getting mad. I've actually never treated her unkindly at this time, even after she treated me like crap.

I think you're right about too big a heart though. All those times she got so sad and emailed me, I was there to comfort her. The one time I emailed her after she moved on she said I was dramatic for being sad. I know Scorpios are contradictory but does that also mean hypocritical and cold hearted. We weren't good for each other.

But even after all that, I still can't get her out of my head. It's ridiculous.




You have co-dependent and rescuer tendencies in you and hence tried very hard to make the 'relationship' work even though it was not a reciprocal one ie-you were the giver and it was abusive because of her incongrous behavior.

Please work on your own emotional growth and get started asap.It is only after you achieve this growth will you be able to find and sustain a reciprocal give-take healthy relationship.


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lostatsea
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ellessque - You act like I've betrayed someone's trust. I don't see the problem with giving details if you have no idea who she or I am. Doesn't it give you guys better insight to have more details? And no of course I'm not 30+, I'm 23, which is 2 years younger than some of the guys she's been hooking up with. She said she doesn't like guys her age, and only likes older men.

Scorpvenus... that is deep. But actually make so much sense. I know you're right too. It's amazing how you so easily saw it from a few paragraphs. I'm just trying to get my head straight right now.
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Elles - No my venus is in capricorn. I don't really know about astrology signs. I actually never believed them until spending so much time with her. She believed she was a textbook scorpio and uses the scorpio descriptions like a guide to life. But here's my chart.

Sun Sagittarius
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Capricorn
Mars Aquarius
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Capricorn
Asc nodeCancer
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Posted by lostatsea
Elles - No my venus is in capricorn. I don't really know about astrology signs. I actually never believed them until spending so much time with her. She believed she was a textbook scorpio and uses the scorpio descriptions like a guide to life. But here's my chart.

Sun Sagittarius
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Capricorn
Mars Aquarius
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Capricorn
Asc nodeCancer



Just the nosey observer, but didn't Pluto shift to Scorpio in 1983? You can't be 23. Sorry.
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Elles - No my venus is in capricorn. I don't really know about astrology signs. I actually never believed them until spending so much time with her. She believed she was a textbook scorpio and uses the scorpio descriptions like a guide to life. But here's my chart.

Sun Sagittarius
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Capricorn
Mars Aquarius
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Capricorn
Asc nodeCancer



How can you be 23 and have a Libra Pluto?

You've done something wrong or you are bring disingenuous with us...
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^^^Haha, never mind. Carry on *sip tea*
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lostatsea
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No thx. I don't enjoy the drama, and I'm not looking to actually go back. Just having trouble moving forward is the thing. Lost in my head is all.

Okay you got me, I shaved off a few years. That is the right chart. I just know how it would come off and didn't want people to get the obvious negative stigma. The girl was well aware of my age but didn't care. She just likes older guys. She's completely into music and 80s bands, and has a huge crush on James Hetfield/Lars Ulrich who are 50/51 now.
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Elles - No my venus is in capricorn. I don't really know about astrology signs. I actually never believed them until spending so much time with her. She believed she was a textbook scorpio and uses the scorpio descriptions like a guide to life. But here's my chart.

Sun Sagittarius
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Capricorn
Mars Aquarius
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Capricorn
Asc nodeCancer



How can you be 23 and have a Libra Pluto?

You've done something wrong or you are bring disingenuous with us...



^^^Haha, never mind. Carry on *sip tea*



I wanted to post the gif of that attractive curly haired girl giving the side eye you often post...but couldn't find it 😢
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LOL google *sip tea*

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lostatsea
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Actually your right it was exactly three quarters of a decade. But it was because of the obvious stigma I'm getting. Is it unusual? Sure. Would many frown on it? Of course. But you're all missing the point.

I never lied to her in any way. We were talking on skype. She knew exactly who she was talking to, and my age. I told her how old I was in the very beginning and she said she didn't care.

She has lived an unusual life. During her early hs years she lived in a cousins house who was her best friend. They would smoke weed and talk about life. The cousin is 37 yrs old.





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No thx. I don't enjoy the drama, and I'm not looking to actually go back. Just having trouble moving forward is the thing. Lost in my head is all.

Okay you got me, I shaved off a few years. That is the right chart. I just know how it would come off and didn't want people to get the obvious negative stigma. The girl was well aware of my age but didn't care. She just likes older guys. She's completely into music and 80s bands, and has a huge crush on James Hetfield/Lars Ulrich who are 50/51 now.



This is worse. Why? Because it makes anything else you say untrustworthy. Some might have judged you for the age difference, but who cares. If the you are both comfortable in the relationship, that's all the matters. It goes without saying this wasn't a smart move. You're asking people for their insight and put up a chart. That being said, it's safe to assume most of the people reading your chart are quite knowledgeable in reading charts and would know you were lying. I'm a novice at best and even I knew you were lying simply by seeing certain placements in that chart...anyway

Epic fail on the Scorp board.
/lecture and interest in your melodrama. Deuces.
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lostatsea
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Fox - I knew how crazy this whole thing was. I never planned it that way. Do you think it would have been a bigger service for me to have kept it a secret? I was having not just friendly feelings toward her but I'll just pretend to be a friend? No I was very honest with her and I believed it was for the best if we stopped talking to her.

You guys are again missing the point. I'm not asking for advice on how to be friends with her. Like I said I know it was for the best. I'm just lost in my head over all it.
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Irresistable - I understand the skepticism, but if anyone was in control it was her. You've seen what I've wrote. Do you really think I could control a scorpio? Did you not read the part about how I have no idea what was real, or fake? Was I being the one who manipulated?

That was in the first post. Logically speaking, why would I even post if I had her completely under my spell and was controlling her.

I'm the one who said we should stop talking, and we did, and she was the one to always come back to me in times of emotional need.

I understand your skepticism about the love. I know it's crazy. Unless it ever happens to you, I wouldn't believe it either. But you spend 1500 hours talking to anyone and I guarantee you its possible.
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Despite a lot of moral judgement I've been getting. Some of this is actually helpful. I got rid of all her messages, emails, info/blocked her from everything in case she tries to contact me. That's all been done.

I know I focus a lot of it on her. But in a way, this complete mystery of knowing what was real/fake or the other is what is bothering me. Also despite what people claim to believe, I actually do care about her legitimately. Those feelings haven't just gone away.

But yes, I know this was all for the best, and somebody closer in age, and life situation would be far better. But it's a little difficult when your head is a mess. Thanks for the advice Fox.
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In the end I know I did this to myself. You're right I am the older one. I put myself in the position. I didn't mean to manipulate her. I certainly wasn't getting some sick power trip like you earlier suggested. I was too nice. When she came back to me, in emotional distress again and again I should have just ignored her.

That goes against everything I believe in ignoring someone asking for help. But I guess that's the only way.

But again, she's living a happier life. I'm glad. The point of this was more me just wondering what was real. How typical is this behavior from a Scorpio, etc. I'm just trying to get my head straight.
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lostatsea,

I saw your post in the night as soon as you placed it, but I was baffled as to not wanting to hurt you with my take on things. Also, since I'm a Scorpio myself, it's hard to put down my own kind. We know how we feel, but we don't necessarily agree with each other at every point.

So here it is:

*I* think, she is immature. She has put herself into a situation that is not very common for Scorpio girls to be in. That is being 'slut' so early in age, but going out from my own experience, I think she is out for the experience, but will get hurt soon.

As for you, I feel you were attracted to her virgin status. We still have that... the virgin in our hearts, never goes away. On the contrary, I believe you missed your chances because you are long distance.

She'd probably like you if she had met you in person. With 'liking' I meant MORE than liking. I never take virtual reality serious and has she not either. Therefore she claimed, she does not feel what you feel.

Anyway, it's done and over. I hope you get to experience a more mature Scorpio, but YOU ALSO have to be ready to see her side of the story.

I secretly wish myself that I meet a Sag man who is not fickle on me. I truly would LOVE myself a SAG.

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lostatsea
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Did you guys just scare away losts—



No not scared away. I've actually taken a step back and really thought about the more constructive criticism. I really have been looking completely through my side without really realizing, that ultimately I'm the far older one and in some ways I do have my head up my ass. Just by her age I shouldn't surprised that she would change. But I guess I was surprised by how much, and how quick she did it.

I've been reading more and more into Astrology because like I said, I never used to believe it. But it can be mind boggling accurate.

The last time we talked, she said I kept trying to "analyze" everything she said and did. In looking in my chart and reading about myself. Moon in Aquarius: "They love to study human nature and analyze why everyone around them acts the way they do." My jaw dropped when I read that.

The funny thing is I really am acting the same as I always do. The difference is I'm guessing that she used to trust me. She herself said it takes someone special on the molecular level to actually trust them. I lost that by constantly leaving, and I can only imagine what it would mean for a Scorpio to finally trust someone and then have them toss it away. I feel bad about it.

Now with that trust gone, she feels like she has to monitor everything she says. Of course she's had enough and will act cold and a bit heartless. But again. I know I did it.

Astrology has taught me so much about it all. She is immature. But she should be. She's acting her age which is the perfect time to be immature. I have no excuse. I really have learned a lot about myself and scorpios.

I will say I have never been as mesmerized by someone's mind as I have by her. The constant mystery, the contradictions. Sag's love solving puzzles, and Scorpios mystery and multiple sides is the ultimate puzzle to solve. I also know scorpios only reveal themselves to those they really care about it, but that chase is amazing.
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Chase is amazing until when... you crack the nut?

Well.. speaking on my behalf, I was never into letting guys come too close to me. Not that I did not like it, but my standards on myself were high. I never wanted to be toy to some guy.

Life for Scorpio is serious stuff and don't get me wrong, we sure know how to have fun, be the center of a party and moreover, be the 'sweet girl' 😉
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Did you guys just scare away losts—



No not scared away. I've actually taken a step back and really thought about the more constructive criticism. I really have been looking completely through my side without really realizing, that ultimately I'm the far older one and in some ways I do have my head up my ass. Just by her age I shouldn't surprised that she would change. But I guess I was surprised by how much, and how quick she did it.



If something seems amiss, it probably is.

Trust your instinct, man.

You know she's 18 because---? She told you?

Showed you a pic of an 18 year old girl?

This is the internets-- anything is possible.



Posted by lostatsea
I've been reading more and more into Astrology because like I said, I never used to believe it. But it can be mind boggling accurate.

The last time we talked, she said I kept trying to "analyze" everything she said and did. In looking in my chart and reading about myself. Moon in Aquarius: "They love to study human nature and analyze why everyone around them acts the way they do." My jaw dropped when I read that.



Idk-- sounds like she's projecting.

It's normal to analyze situations that make NO SENSE.


Posted by lostatseaThe funny thing is I really am acting the same as I always do. The difference is I'm guessing that she used to trust me. She herself said it takes someone special on the molecular level to actually trust them. I lost that by constantly leaving, and I can only imagine what it would mean for a Scorpio to finally trust someone and then have them toss it away. I feel bad about it.



Don't.

On the contrary, it sounds like you weren't "co-operating"


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Now with that trust gone, she feels like she has to monitor everything she says.



They do that anyway.


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I'll give you that. 🙂
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lostatsea
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We were talking and hanging out albeit virtually for well over a year. I know she was 18 because we know each other's lives. I was there when she turned 19 at midnight. I literally know almost everything about her. You cannot spend that much time talking to anyone and not get close.

We were skyping. I've seen her, heard her voice, etc. She has a youtube channel for singing. This isn't like talking on a forum or exchanging emails.

But yes. I am moving on. I realize I'll never know what exactly this was all about.

In reading more and more about astrology though. Do you guys think that what happened was a scoropio transformation I'm reading about? Is that how quick and drastic they are? She was hurt for a week and a half over me. Then she embraced the darker side of the scorpio, and completely changing her entire life style in a few weeks.
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lostatsea
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Two questions -

1) She sounds like one of those live cam girls and this was her life style . Is that how you met?

2) By any chance, are you married?



I already see what you're getting at. But no she's a youtuber. She sings/play guitar. The lifecasting site was blogtv.com if you're aware of it. It closed down and is now known as younow.com which is a very different site

No I'm not married nor I have been married. I've never cheated on anyone in my life nor would I.
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lostatsea
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Elle - It is a life lesson, and I've most definitely learned a lot about myself. A lot of it not good.

I would also say, you're approach to advice is very abrasive, and you seem to naturally have assumed the worst in me. Looking at a few other threads it would appear that is a trend in a lot of your posts. I do regret lying, but the way you asked for my age, put me in a corner to do so. Not an excuse, just an explanation.

But I thank you for reading the long post and giving it your time. This chapter is closed, but since people reply with their thoughts I still reply.
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lostatsea
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Is this is going to turn into one of those moments where we argue over nothing? Did you see the exact post in question?

How old are you? If you're 30 or over I'm gonna donkey punch you through the screen... paraphrasing but it was something like that.

How is that not abrasive? Ask any reasonable person and they will say it is. Would you say that to anybody over the phone where you didn't have the anonymity of the internet? It imposes negative judgement before the person even had a chance to answer.

I mean, yes it is a concrete fact. But what if I was to ask you? Are you straight or homosexual? I swear if you're a homosexual I'm gonna donkey punch you through the screen.

Of course a lot of people are gonna stay in the closet when you phrase any question like that. Are you really surprised?

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Elles - No my venus is in capricorn. I don't really know about astrology signs. I actually never believed them until spending so much time with her. She believed she was a textbook scorpio and uses the scorpio descriptions like a guide to life. But here's my chart.

Sun Sagittarius
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Capricorn
Mars Aquarius
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Capricorn
Asc nodeCancer



How can you be 23 and have a Libra Pluto?

You've done something wrong or you are bring disingenuous with us...
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Hahahahaha, I caught the Detail as well, Pluto in libra means he was really born BEFORE 1985